I was hoping you could use the spectrum analyzer to illustrate the difference in the frequency content. I wonder how much the different heads contribute to the slight differences. Do you know how the shell affects the timbre (i.e. frequency content of the overall sound we hear)? I think what we hear is coming from the drums heads; they are doing the real work of moving the air and creating the sounds waves we hear. We're playing the head not the shell ("the heads are the speakers and the shell is the speaker cabinet"). I don't think we are hearing anything directly from the shell. If that is true (?) then is the shell acting as a filter and just bleeding off energy from the head and reducing the fundamental (which has the highest amplitude), or is the shell somehow introducing more harmonic content into the head, or depending on the shell construction (and ability to vibrate and absorb energy) the shell might leave the fundamental alone and attenuate more of the harmonics? I believe if the shell was very thick vs. very thin for example, same tonewood, the thick shell would absorb far less energy from the head whereas a thin shell (which seems to be the thing these days) would absorb much more of the energy and have more of an affect on the frequency content in the head, and thus the timbre. Thick shell would be have a stronger fundamental and be louder. I think capturing the PSD (power spectral density) plots under controlled conditions could explain and illustrate what is going on and show how different shell types affect the sound and to what degree. Thx
Tdrums8 yes, that’s right, it’s not just the drum being compared but the drum+drumhead combination - to give an idea of the range of possible sounds rather than a ‘which is best’ kind of shootout. We’re making videos all the time comparing different things, so this is by no means a closed discussion!
“They all sound pretty similar, yeah?” No. Not even remotely! 🤣 What you hear and what the mic hears are obviously completely different. There’s a massive difference in apparent pitch, even though they are tuned the same. I’m blown away you can say they sound pretty similar. They sound nothing at all like each other. Either your app or your ears are a total fail.
The fundamental sounds very similar to me, but the overtones are quite different frequencies and the balance of overtone to fundamental is massively different which is what makes them sound very different
I was hoping you could use the spectrum analyzer to illustrate the difference in the frequency content. I wonder how much the different heads contribute to the slight differences.
Do you know how the shell affects the timbre (i.e. frequency content of the overall sound we hear)? I think what we hear is coming from the drums heads; they are doing the real work of moving the air and creating the sounds waves we hear. We're playing the head not the shell ("the heads are the speakers and the shell is the speaker cabinet"). I don't think we are hearing anything directly from the shell. If that is true (?) then is the shell acting as a filter and just bleeding off energy from the head and reducing the fundamental (which has the highest amplitude), or is the shell somehow introducing more harmonic content into the head, or depending on the shell construction (and ability to vibrate and absorb energy) the shell might leave the fundamental alone and attenuate more of the harmonics? I believe if the shell was very thick vs. very thin for example, same tonewood, the thick shell would absorb far less energy from the head whereas a thin shell (which seems to be the thing these days) would absorb much more of the energy and have more of an affect on the frequency content in the head, and thus the timbre. Thick shell would be have a stronger fundamental and be louder. I think capturing the PSD (power spectral density) plots under controlled conditions could explain and illustrate what is going on and show how different shell types affect the sound and to what degree. Thx
Rob, any possibilty of you performing this assessment again, only using the same batter/reso heads for all the drums?
Your videos are great and so is the app, thank you
Eric Strassner thanks, much appreciated!
What about snare side head? How you tune them? Center hz and lug hz?
for us,,, resonant freq,,, measured on top or bottom is identical,,,, how u get non same
to Judge them dont you also need the same drum heads on each snare also
Tdrums8 yes, that’s right, it’s not just the drum being compared but the drum+drumhead combination - to give an idea of the range of possible sounds rather than a ‘which is best’ kind of shootout. We’re making videos all the time comparing different things, so this is by no means a closed discussion!
@@iDrumTune ok bro .cool vids
“They all sound pretty similar, yeah?”
No. Not even remotely! 🤣
What you hear and what the mic hears are obviously completely different. There’s a massive difference in apparent pitch, even though they are tuned the same. I’m blown away you can say they sound pretty similar. They sound nothing at all like each other. Either your app or your ears are a total fail.
The fundamental sounds very similar to me, but the overtones are quite different frequencies and the balance of overtone to fundamental is massively different which is what makes them sound very different
@@stephenevans2518 So you agree, they all sound massively different. Which is what I said. Thanks.