Brother this is the BEST video I've seen on this tool. What a fantastic explanation of how to get the most from it while mitigating any confusion that can sometimes arise. I would love to see a video with your experience and advice with it on kick drums with a hole cut out for a kick mic and toms too if you're down to complete the series. I'm trying to get that big open Simon Phillips or Keith Carlock sound with my kick & toms and it has been like you said: a steep learning curve. Killer content - keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! I do have a kick tuning video over on my IG, but it’s more specific to a modern rock/metal sound. A Carlock kick video would be pretty sweet!
I've never been able to use my Tubebot on my snares.... but it is the Gig version so interesting that other people seem to have the same issues. Works great on the toms though. And i think the tuning guides included are great
Exactly how I use it and great explanation. Whatever the argument. Each head can be tuned to an exact note, including top and bottom at intervals apart
@@jpipaj hmm. This might not help. Do you mute the center of the head (and always the bottom head on carpet or towel) and tap about 1-2" inch from each lug? That muting will create a harmonic, which should be higher, than not muting the center, for ex. You def wanna lightly mute the center with a finger or two, tap near lug an inch or so out w/ hard object (drum key for ex) or mallet.
Same here. I do all the muting and tap in the same spots and I have never once seen a number above 400. I assumed like others that it maxes out there. Mine is a studio as well. I’ve resorted to reso head at 398 as my default so that way I know I’m not too high anywhere.
I love my tune-bot, the only problem I have with it is if you don't pull the batteries out every time you store it they will be flat next time to try to turn it on. I'm surprised it isn't a lithium ion batt with USB charging like everything else. In 10 years are we still going to be able to buy batteries? You also don't seem to be using the lock feature, EG once you get to 400 on one lug you lock that and then it will tell you on every other hit if its higher or lower than that. Thats how is supposed to be used. For suggested tuning the tunebot website has a list of them.
I agree, the batteries are annoying but I’ve not noticed them flattening when the device is off. Also having everything be a USB charged device is equally frustrating when you have 10 devices on tour that all need a USB. I’ve never really enjoyed the lock function personally. It’s not bad by any means, but I just find it quicker and easier to get the results I’m after without it. Just a workflow thing for me.
People that dont undersatnd why it jump from 300 to 100 need to be tough a drum head does not just vibrate at one frequency it has other harmonics. The fundamental note is the one we are trying to tune too, once we have a lug at brought fundamental 300 and we get that reading we hit the filter button, which will then filter out the 100 etc harmonics the head is also making. You could show all these harmonics on an Assiloscope app in a future video. When we use something like moongel etc we are dampening these harmonics to make the drums sound mostly the fundamental note.
This was the first video I watched after buying my tune-bot studio. I'm about to give it a go now. And thanks for putting this quality video tutorial together. You have a new subscriber.
Thank you!!! Bought one years ago and could never get it to work the way I thought it should so it’s been sitting in a drawer gathering dust while my drums just didn’t have that sound that I knew they could bring but just could never get get there without a LOT of effort.
This is one of the most comprehensive tuning videos I've seen. I've playing with this little machine for almost one decade, and I've found the same spots on many snare drums I've tuned. So this video is basically a good summary on how to get there. When you say before the tunebot, it felt like there was no final destination to drum tuning, I absolutely felt 100% interpreted on that feeling, because I got through that with this little machine. Finally 294 is my all around standard, 277 for nasty rockish with little muffing, and 233 with tons of tape with that low indie/pop sound. I would like to see a video of Part II on toms and bass drum, where I also found another gems, another nice spots.
Overtone-Labs, give Eli that requested free Tune-Bot ,-) This video is sooooooo good. Been struggling using the tune-bot studio, thinking even to throw it out. This video clarifies all you need to know about it, how to use it, crystal clear, way better than TB the manual. Thanks Eli, will be checking more of your videos and channels !
Funnily enough, I just pulled the trigger & purchased a Studio model online today, I’m keen to get the most & best sound out of my drums that I can. Great video Eli, thanks for the advice & knowledge 🙌🏻
thanks for the video, great reminders of the useful settings to get better results. I love using it together with the app - the suggested tunings really help you focus on the differences between reso/batter relationships, trying new tunings, and coping the tunings of tune-bot artists. For gigs I find the tone that I like for that group of tunes and write the numbers right on the head - touch up at intermission if there is one, or get it right back to the same tone the next night. As you mentioned, the sound guy loves it -- me too!
Awesome video! Can’t wait to get a tune bot… I recently purchased the tune bot gig ,but quickly sent it back… now I can look forward to a tune bot like the one you have . Thx for this great instructional video!
Thanks for the video man it’s really insightful, especially as I’m in the midst of buying my dream drum kit so it has me considering getting one for helping to tune up the snare and toms as I have never really done it before - related to this, it would be great to get a similar video on how to tune toms with it as I have 4 toms so would like to how to get them tuned (with various high/ low tunings) whilst having them being still the right key apart from each other if that makes sense!
Check my Instagram for the tom tuning reel I made! It is exactly that but for 3 toms. I do have a 5 Tom monster PDP kit at the studio that would be awesome to do a huge Tom tuning video on. Definitely a lot of work but would be cool!
@@EliGreenDrums I actually found the video on your instagram not long after commenting this and it is very insightful so thank you for that! I agree it would be a lot of work, but would be cool to do a big Tom tuning video!
The Tune Bot Gig model is my absolute go to. I have multiple units and keep one in my gig bag. Every person I’ve talked to that’s had issues was simply using it wrong or didn’t understand how to access the features.
Interesting! Have you compared it to other non-gig units? Because I did, and it was very different. And I definitely know my way around these devices. I’d love to think it was an anomaly but have had quite a few similar stories from people who know what’s up with them. Maybe a bad batch?
Love the detailed dive! Also, for anyone saying drums shouldn't be tuned to pitches or don't have one, I agree it seems very closed minded. Especially considering how many legend drummers and producers have stated that tuning your drums to fit into a certain pitch of a song can make a massive difference in overall production. If the song is in a specific key, why wouldn't you start by tuning your drums to a key that will compliment it rather than muddying it up? Just my take. Another solid video, dude.
Thank you mate! I completely agree. I had a studio experience where that exact thing happened and we all couldn’t believe how much of a difference it made having everything be dialled into the key.
This snare soudn awesome Eli. Can u please tell us, more detail such as: 1. Snare Head 2. Mic ( as i c it is a sm57 right) or have u use any other mics to? 3. Reso Head 4. and what u did in Processing ( Gate, Compressor, or what else?)+ Thanks a lot in Advance
I'd love a comparison between the Tune bot and smartphone tuning apps. Have you tried any of these apps? I use drumtune Pro paid version and think it's actually very good. But always am thinking about purchasing a TB. I always use 2 tuning keys when I Tune, this has become second nature to my tuning now
I get MUCH more consistent results with the Tunebot vs the iDrumTune Pro app. The resonant tuning feature in the IDTP app is super interesting. If you buy his book and read it cover to cover, you'll know why that little tidbit of info is so valuable.
@gaston. While the Tunebot can sometimes give an incorrect reading (which is frustrating) once you work with it a bit it becomes fairly apparent when it is doing this. Being able to recreate tunings is like a gift from the drum gods !!!!!
Thanks for the video, it's very good. But 400hz on the bottom head??? Impossible to tune above 200hz on my Remo snare side (3mil). It stretches too much beyond 200hz and I stopped before breaking it. How is this possible? My Snare is a Varus brass 14 x 6.5.
You’re not measuring the lug pitch OR it’s already higher than that and the tunebot is listening to a lower resonant frequency. This is common with over tightened heads and the tunebot
@@EliGreenDrums I confirm that I measure the pitch of the lugs and I start measuring when the head is just stretched immediately after screwing the lugs by hand.
@BeucéLabarrak is your tunebot the tunebot gig? As I mentioned in the video, they‘be been known give false readings. I have my heads tuned to 400hz lug pitch and well above every single day and have never blown out a head at that tension.
@@EliGreenDrums I have the Tune Bot Studio. I believe you but with me it doesn't work on the snare side. I specify that I put a towel under the batter head when I adjust the bottom head. And it works with the bottom tom heads (Diplomat clear 7.5mil) and the batter heads, the tune bot goes above 200hz without problem. I will try again with the Ambassador and I will also try an Emperor snare side (5mil). Thank you for your answers.
Great presentation. Thank you. Can you brighten the screen and keep it active longer? The calculator does not have a 18 floor Tom setting. Any ideas? Kit 8,10,12,13 16 18 24 and 14 x 6.5 snare. Thanks a bunch
As far as I’ve found, screen brightness and time before dimming are directly tied to battery level. Put some fresh ones in and it will light up. For an 18” I would probably run the batter head somewhere around 80hz and the reso a little higher depending on your taste. I will do a tuning video with a large kit soon!
Man I just bought the tune bot gig model yesterday, debating on whether or not I should just exchange it for the studio model. I’m going for the sleep token’s ii sound from your video and hesitant to open the box.🤦🏻♂️
Love this video. My literal ONLY critique is when you were tuning the snare drums reso head you were saying "one full turn" but in actuality it was just a half turn. And the only reason I even point that out is for beginners.
Yeah, I agree the terminology isn’t completely precise. However, in my mind it makes less sense to call a full 360° rotation a “full turn” when it comes to using a drum key as your wrist only rotates 180°. So I’m doing a full turn of my wrist, but half a turn of the key. Hope that helps!
Vintage drummer, who's over the years have tried many tuning techniques. Tune-Bot has revolutionized drum tuning. Perfect pitch, on a note. Makes all the difference. My drums instantly sounded better.. Pick your resonance level, tune, and play..😊
That’s interesting. I would check a) how closely tuned the drum head is so begin with, b) how hard you’re striking the drum (louder = more inconsistent) and c) how much of the drumhead is resonating. ie, are you muting the middle of the head and tapping near the edge, and perhaps muting the resonant head to stop any extra ringing? Try those troubleshooting methods!
@@EliGreenDrums dude that’s awesome! I get so much hate from the drum community when I mention using the drum dial. But when I do I also get people saying, hey you should try the tune bot. I really didn’t know how it worked until I watched this. Nobody cares if a guitarist or bassist use a tuner. 🤷
@@EliGreenDrums Is this going to be a 3 way comparison between the dial, the bot, and the watch? Or just the dial and watch? Bc I think all 3 would be cool.
@@EliGreenDrums H to tha mfn yeah! Dude you sound like the type of drummer who’d light a f’n fire under a band and get everybody cooking! Na I appreciate what you’re doing bc this here is breaking new ground in drumming and I’m glad to be apart of it.
I’ve try it and I confirm that the 400hz plug works really well on 14’’ size snares bottom but I’m wondering to also know what the measurements max tension for a 10, 12, 13’’ snares bottom please help ….
Because they are smaller they can go higher than 14's, and would sound better too. My Joey Jordinson and Mapex black panther (both 13 inch) are around 435 440
@@thepluggy1 it’s weird because my lp 13inch snare bottom doesn’t goes to 400hz i used the tune bot studio …. And I broke my snare skin thinking that I need to tighten more just to rich 400hz but it goes to 230hz or 300😥…. Maybe I still need to learn and practice more how to use the tune bot and in general through….
Your 13 definitely goes to 400hz, but either you were measuring the fundamental, not the lug pitch, or you overshot and the Tunebot was reading a lower harmonic (which can happen when you over crank and the drum starts to choke out). Use the stair stepping method from a lower tuning range - 350 or so, and then bring it up using the filter method and you’ll get it there. I also agree that smaller snares can come up from 400. I’ve had great success with 416, 420, 435 and 450
@@EliGreenDrums thanks for your reply master and can you please mention about the 10, 12 and 13 which is the best parameter should I get and set for them each on bottom side please thanks 🙏🏼?
I do that when I tune bass drums a lot of the time. I like to be able to mute the head when I tune though, so I find clipping and freeing up the hand works better for me.
@@EliGreenDrums Well obviously it’s working for you so don’t change anything haha! But when I teach people how to use it, I’ve noticed that holding it forces them to really concentrate on how hard they hit the head, and when the Tunebot gives a weird reading, they very quickly start to HEAR that something went wrong, and they try again.. it’s pretty cool!… Now I have NEVER been able to get the Tunebot to work reliably on a kick drum. Whats the secret?
You turn the drum over. You don’t need to switch any modes on the tunebot. I literally never use those settings. Just leave it on the standard tuning screen and go for gold!
The TuneBot has a "Head" selector button, but all that does is cycle through the saved values for the Top Lug, Bottom Lug, Fundamental tuning targets for the selected Drum Set and Drum. You don't have to use this, and the TuneBot works without changing these.
You’re not wrong but I call it a full turn because that’s the full rotation of my wrist. It’s a repeatable movement that a lot of drummers refer to that as a full turn, even though it’s obviously 180°
I could so do a video on this exact topic, I’m sure there’s a huge divide in drummers as to full vs half turn terminology haha. I say full turn because it’s a full turn of my hand before having to alter my grip.
The best video on tuning or the tune bot I’ve ever seen or heard. You’re a legend mate!! Thank you
Brother this is the BEST video I've seen on this tool. What a fantastic explanation of how to get the most from it while mitigating any confusion that can sometimes arise. I would love to see a video with your experience and advice with it on kick drums with a hole cut out for a kick mic and toms too if you're down to complete the series. I'm trying to get that big open Simon Phillips or Keith Carlock sound with my kick & toms and it has been like you said: a steep learning curve. Killer content - keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! I do have a kick tuning video over on my IG, but it’s more specific to a modern rock/metal sound. A Carlock kick video would be pretty sweet!
@@EliGreenDrums I’ll check out your ig - thanks!
I've never been able to use my Tubebot on my snares.... but it is the Gig version so interesting that other people seem to have the same issues. Works great on the toms though. And i think the tuning guides included are great
Excellent tutorial. Thank you.
Exactly how I use it and great explanation. Whatever the argument. Each head can be tuned to an exact note, including top and bottom at intervals apart
You get it!
I can’t seem to get this high of reading on my tunebot studio. I must be doing it wrong
@@jpipaj hmm. This might not help. Do you mute the center of the head (and always the bottom head on carpet or towel) and tap about 1-2" inch from each lug? That muting will create a harmonic, which should be higher, than not muting the center, for ex. You def wanna lightly mute the center with a finger or two, tap near lug an inch or so out w/ hard object (drum key for ex) or mallet.
@@westbrad6808thank you brother
Same here. I do all the muting and tap in the same spots and I have never once seen a number above 400. I assumed like others that it maxes out there. Mine is a studio as well. I’ve resorted to reso head at 398 as my default so that way I know I’m not too high anywhere.
I'm 15 and I've got a tune-bot since a few weeks! And man it helped me a lot to increase the drum sound! Love this tool! 🤘🤘🤘
Awesome to hear!
I love my tune-bot, the only problem I have with it is if you don't pull the batteries out every time you store it they will be flat next time to try to turn it on. I'm surprised it isn't a lithium ion batt with USB charging like everything else. In 10 years are we still going to be able to buy batteries? You also don't seem to be using the lock feature, EG once you get to 400 on one lug you lock that and then it will tell you on every other hit if its higher or lower than that. Thats how is supposed to be used. For suggested tuning the tunebot website has a list of them.
I agree, the batteries are annoying but I’ve not noticed them flattening when the device is off. Also having everything be a USB charged device is equally frustrating when you have 10 devices on tour that all need a USB. I’ve never really enjoyed the lock function personally. It’s not bad by any means, but I just find it quicker and easier to get the results I’m after without it. Just a workflow thing for me.
People that dont undersatnd why it jump from 300 to 100 need to be tough a drum head does not just vibrate at one frequency it has other harmonics. The fundamental note is the one we are trying to tune too, once we have a lug at brought fundamental 300 and we get that reading we hit the filter button, which will then filter out the 100 etc harmonics the head is also making. You could show all these harmonics on an Assiloscope app in a future video. When we use something like moongel etc we are dampening these harmonics to make the drums sound mostly the fundamental note.
Bingo!
this is such an incredible resource - thank you so much
So welcome! 🙏
This was the first video I watched after buying my tune-bot studio. I'm about to give it a go now. And thanks for putting this quality video tutorial together. You have a new subscriber.
That’s awesome dude, thank you! Good luck with it! It does take a little bit of getting used to.
Ditto 😊👍
My go-to pitch for my snare that I absolutely love is a B(390hz & 400hz) it gives me the nice attack and tone I want out of a snare🤘🏼
Big sleep token vibes up that high! Love it!
Thank you!!! Bought one years ago and could never get it to work the way I thought it should so it’s been sitting in a drawer gathering dust while my drums just didn’t have that sound that I knew they could bring but just could never get get there without a LOT of effort.
Completely understand that frustration! Hopefully these tips can demystify it for you and get those drums sounding amazing!
Right on, man. I love the high range function on the Studio Model.
Great addition!
Yeah! I love my studio version a lot🤘🤘🤘
Great instructional video. I was considering a tune bot and glad I saw this video.
Thank you! You’re welcome!
Loved this!! Do one this indepth for toms on a whole set please!!
Definitely! I’ve got that one cooking!
Could be great to know also what the parameters for snares 10, 12, 13 inch cause I think 400hz bottom doesn’t work for them so far 😢
You're the best bro!!! This is super helpful! Cheers :)
Happy to help!
This is one of the most comprehensive tuning videos I've seen. I've playing with this little machine for almost one decade, and I've found the same spots on many snare drums I've tuned. So this video is basically a good summary on how to get there. When you say before the tunebot, it felt like there was no final destination to drum tuning, I absolutely felt 100% interpreted on that feeling, because I got through that with this little machine. Finally 294 is my all around standard, 277 for nasty rockish with little muffing, and 233 with tons of tape with that low indie/pop sound. I would like to see a video of Part II on toms and bass drum, where I also found another gems, another nice spots.
Sounds like we’re two peas in a pod mate! I love all those same tuning references! Seems like toms and kick needs to be a thing!
@@EliGreenDrums Yeah, mainly because tunebot reference manual didn't make any sense, at least for me. So, it was like starting from scratch.
Overtone-Labs, give Eli that requested free Tune-Bot ,-) This video is sooooooo good. Been struggling using the tune-bot studio, thinking even to throw it out. This video clarifies all you need to know about it, how to use it, crystal clear, way better than TB the manual.
Thanks Eli, will be checking more of your videos and channels !
I was about to give up on the tune bot. Thanks for this video! Gonna try it tomorrow.
Awesome! Let me know how you go!
@@EliGreenDrums trying tonight. Stay “tuned”.
How did it go?@@houseofdyer
My dude!!!! Thanks for dropping this video in, been waiting for this 👊
Welcome mate! Hope it helps!
Funnily enough, I just pulled the trigger & purchased a Studio model online today, I’m keen to get the most & best sound out of my drums that I can.
Great video Eli, thanks for the advice & knowledge 🙌🏻
Awesome! Hopefully these tips help!
thanks for the video, great reminders of the useful settings to get better results. I love using it together with the app - the suggested tunings really help you focus on the differences between reso/batter relationships, trying new tunings, and coping the tunings of tune-bot artists. For gigs I find the tone that I like for that group of tunes and write the numbers right on the head - touch up at intermission if there is one, or get it right back to the same tone the next night. As you mentioned, the sound guy loves it -- me too!
How awesome is that! The app is super useful and very underrated. Great to see someone else using it in the same manner!
Awesome video! Can’t wait to get a tune bot… I recently purchased the tune bot gig ,but quickly sent it back… now I can look forward to a tune bot like the one you have . Thx for this great instructional video!
Thanks! Good luck!
Excellent video. Very thorough. Well done!
Thank you!
Great video mate. Love my tune-bot. Love your Dream setup too. I play all Dream as well
Thank you bro! How great are Dreams?!
Thanks for the video man it’s really insightful, especially as I’m in the midst of buying my dream drum kit so it has me considering getting one for helping to tune up the snare and toms as I have never really done it before - related to this, it would be great to get a similar video on how to tune toms with it as I have 4 toms so would like to how to get them tuned (with various high/ low tunings) whilst having them being still the right key apart from each other if that makes sense!
Check my Instagram for the tom tuning reel I made! It is exactly that but for 3 toms. I do have a 5 Tom monster PDP kit at the studio that would be awesome to do a huge Tom tuning video on. Definitely a lot of work but would be cool!
@@EliGreenDrums I actually found the video on your instagram not long after commenting this and it is very insightful so thank you for that! I agree it would be a lot of work, but would be cool to do a big Tom tuning video!
Another tip for everyone...make sure that your batteries are fresh. Weak batteries cause fluky readings.
Truuuuuuth!
The Tune Bot Gig model is my absolute go to. I have multiple units and keep one in my gig bag. Every person I’ve talked to that’s had issues was simply using it wrong or didn’t understand how to access the features.
Interesting! Have you compared it to other non-gig units? Because I did, and it was very different. And I definitely know my way around these devices. I’d love to think it was an anomaly but have had quite a few similar stories from people who know what’s up with them. Maybe a bad batch?
Yep typical humans, can use/understand a device, badmouth it!
Man that's a nice drum.!
Awesome video as always bro...
I actually like the ring that you think is wild... 😂
Thanks mate! I think it’s cool too but man, you should have heard it in the room! 🔔
Awesome video - greatly appreciated!
Welcome! Thanks!
Great video, very informative thanks!
Glad you got something out of it!
Great instructional video!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Cheers!
Great video !
Thank you!
Thank you! 10 out of 10! 🙏🏻🤓
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the detailed dive! Also, for anyone saying drums shouldn't be tuned to pitches or don't have one, I agree it seems very closed minded. Especially considering how many legend drummers and producers have stated that tuning your drums to fit into a certain pitch of a song can make a massive difference in overall production. If the song is in a specific key, why wouldn't you start by tuning your drums to a key that will compliment it rather than muddying it up? Just my take. Another solid video, dude.
Thank you mate! I completely agree. I had a studio experience where that exact thing happened and we all couldn’t believe how much of a difference it made having everything be dialled into the key.
This snare soudn awesome Eli. Can u please tell us, more detail such as:
1. Snare Head
2. Mic ( as i c it is a sm57 right) or have u use any other mics to?
3. Reso Head
4. and what u did in Processing ( Gate, Compressor, or what else?)+
Thanks a lot in Advance
Definitely going to pick one up. Ive made a lot of progress with tuning, but it still a weak spot and having some objectivity MUST help!
Exactly! It’s a great tool for development.
You know What would be a good tuning range with it for metal?I just got one and im still trying to get used to using it and figure it out.
You’re a G for this!!! Thank you.
You're welcome!
I'd love a comparison between the Tune bot and smartphone tuning apps. Have you tried any of these apps? I use drumtune Pro paid version and think it's actually very good. But always am thinking about purchasing a TB. I always use 2 tuning keys when I Tune, this has become second nature to my tuning now
Funny you say that, one of the next videos is going to be right up your alley!!
@EliGreenDrums cool. I'm a new sub and am definitely enjoying your channel, really good content 👌
Thank you so much mate!
I get MUCH more consistent results with the Tunebot vs the iDrumTune Pro app. The resonant tuning feature in the IDTP app is super interesting. If you buy his book and read it cover to cover, you'll know why that little tidbit of info is so valuable.
@BeatsAndMeats never tried the IDTP, but it's probably close enough to the Drumtune Pro I'd imagine.
Do you use the snare bottom feature when you’re tuning the snare bottom? Or do you always just leave it on the default drum and head selection?
Yeah I leave it on the default. I’ve noticed no real difference with those settings.
Bought one and ended up using my ear or i just use a $10 regular tuner clip to adjust the fundamental this thin is too finiky
There’s definitely a learning curve to it. But I’d recommend sticking at it. Once you get in sync with it, you can get some amazing results
@gaston. While the Tunebot can sometimes give an incorrect reading (which is frustrating) once you work with it a bit it becomes fairly apparent when it is doing this.
Being able to recreate tunings is like a gift from the drum gods !!!!!
Thanks for the video, it's very good. But 400hz on the bottom head??? Impossible to tune above 200hz on my Remo snare side (3mil). It stretches too much beyond 200hz and I stopped before breaking it. How is this possible?
My Snare is a Varus brass 14 x 6.5.
You’re not measuring the lug pitch OR it’s already higher than that and the tunebot is listening to a lower resonant frequency. This is common with over tightened heads and the tunebot
@@EliGreenDrums I confirm that I measure the pitch of the lugs and I start measuring when the head is just stretched immediately after screwing the lugs by hand.
@BeucéLabarrak is your tunebot the tunebot gig? As I mentioned in the video, they‘be been known give false readings. I have my heads tuned to 400hz lug pitch and well above every single day and have never blown out a head at that tension.
@@EliGreenDrums I have the Tune Bot Studio. I believe you but with me it doesn't work on the snare side. I specify that I put a towel under the batter head when I adjust the bottom head. And it works with the bottom tom heads (Diplomat clear 7.5mil) and the batter heads, the tune bot goes above 200hz without problem. I will try again with the Ambassador and I will also try an Emperor snare side (5mil). Thank you for your answers.
Great presentation. Thank you. Can you brighten the screen and keep it active longer? The calculator does not have a 18 floor Tom setting. Any ideas? Kit 8,10,12,13 16 18 24 and 14 x 6.5 snare. Thanks a bunch
As far as I’ve found, screen brightness and time before dimming are directly tied to battery level. Put some fresh ones in and it will light up. For an 18” I would probably run the batter head somewhere around 80hz and the reso a little higher depending on your taste. I will do a tuning video with a large kit soon!
Man I just bought the tune bot gig model yesterday, debating on whether or not I should just exchange it for the studio model. I’m going for the sleep token’s ii sound from your video and hesitant to open the box.🤦🏻♂️
I mean, try it. If it doesn’t work correctly you can always take it back
@@EliGreenDrums appreciate the info, I’ll just get the 13x7 and do it the right way.
@@EliGreenDrums what’s your opinion on a decent mid tier maple 13x7 brand?
Love this video. My literal ONLY critique is when you were tuning the snare drums reso head you were saying "one full turn" but in actuality it was just a half turn. And the only reason I even point that out is for beginners.
Yeah, I agree the terminology isn’t completely precise. However, in my mind it makes less sense to call a full 360° rotation a “full turn” when it comes to using a drum key as your wrist only rotates 180°. So I’m doing a full turn of my wrist, but half a turn of the key. Hope that helps!
@@EliGreenDrums Fair. Very fair!
Vintage drummer, who's over the years have tried many tuning techniques. Tune-Bot has revolutionized drum tuning. Perfect pitch, on a note. Makes all the difference. My drums instantly sounded better..
Pick your resonance level, tune, and play..😊
How about a 15" diameter snare...I'm looking for recommendations online but can't find much.
I’d love to get one. I had a chance to buy a Brady Baritone years ago and didn’t pull the trigger - REGRET
I’d love to get one. I had a chance to buy a Brady Baritone years ago and didn’t pull the trigger. REGRET
Mine is the studio and jumps around all over the place, tried the filter but literally changes every time. so odd!
That’s interesting. I would check a) how closely tuned the drum head is so begin with, b) how hard you’re striking the drum (louder = more inconsistent) and c) how much of the drumhead is resonating. ie, are you muting the middle of the head and tapping near the edge, and perhaps muting the resonant head to stop any extra ringing? Try those troubleshooting methods!
I have a drum dial and get amazing results. I don’t really care about tuning to notes really. Would I benefit from one of these?
I’m actually going to do some comparison testing against the dial and the tension watch, so hold off on any purchases til that video is made!
@@EliGreenDrums dude that’s awesome! I get so much hate from the drum community when I mention using the drum dial. But when I do I also get people saying, hey you should try the tune bot. I really didn’t know how it worked until I watched this. Nobody cares if a guitarist or bassist use a tuner. 🤷
@@EliGreenDrums Is this going to be a 3 way comparison between the dial, the bot, and the watch? Or just the dial and watch? Bc I think all 3 would be cool.
@allenmitchell09 on no, we’re going all in on this. If I’m going to do it, I’m only going to do it once and compare EVERYTHING 😂
@@EliGreenDrums H to tha mfn yeah! Dude you sound like the type of drummer who’d light a f’n fire under a band and get everybody cooking! Na I appreciate what you’re doing bc this here is breaking new ground in drumming and I’m glad to be apart of it.
I’ve try it and I confirm that the 400hz plug works really well on 14’’ size snares bottom but I’m wondering to also know what the measurements max tension for a 10, 12, 13’’ snares bottom please help ….
Because they are smaller they can go higher than 14's, and would sound better too. My Joey Jordinson and Mapex black panther (both 13 inch) are around 435 440
@@thepluggy1 it’s weird because my lp 13inch snare bottom doesn’t goes to 400hz i used the tune bot studio …. And I broke my snare skin thinking that I need to tighten more just to rich 400hz but it goes to 230hz or 300😥…. Maybe I still need to learn and practice more how to use the tune bot and in general through….
Your 13 definitely goes to 400hz, but either you were measuring the fundamental, not the lug pitch, or you overshot and the Tunebot was reading a lower harmonic (which can happen when you over crank and the drum starts to choke out). Use the stair stepping method from a lower tuning range - 350 or so, and then bring it up using the filter method and you’ll get it there.
I also agree that smaller snares can come up from 400. I’ve had great success with 416, 420, 435 and 450
@@EliGreenDrums thanks for your reply master and can you please mention about the 10, 12 and 13 which is the best parameter should I get and set for them each on bottom side please thanks 🙏🏼?
Use a mallet and hold the Tunebot with your hand... makes it a lot more accurate than clipping it to the rim.
I do that when I tune bass drums a lot of the time. I like to be able to mute the head when I tune though, so I find clipping and freeing up the hand works better for me.
@@EliGreenDrums Well obviously it’s working for you so don’t change anything haha! But when I teach people how to use it, I’ve noticed that holding it forces them to really concentrate on how hard they hit the head, and when the Tunebot gives a weird reading, they very quickly start to HEAR that something went wrong, and they try again.. it’s pretty cool!… Now I have NEVER been able to get the Tunebot to work reliably on a kick drum. Whats the secret?
Okay but how do you switch to tune bot to the bottom head
You turn the drum over. You don’t need to switch any modes on the tunebot. I literally never use those settings. Just leave it on the standard tuning screen and go for gold!
@EliGreenDrums that's what I do but I can't figure out how to switch it on the tune bot and it drives me crazy haha
The TuneBot has a "Head" selector button, but all that does is cycle through the saved values for the Top Lug, Bottom Lug, Fundamental tuning targets for the selected Drum Set and Drum. You don't have to use this, and the TuneBot works without changing these.
^^^ this
Tune-Bot with some Rock Locks. Then your drums will never go out of tune again!
Love rock locks!!
Struggled with it for a while but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty handy.
Super handy!
08:02 This is not an one full turn but a half one of the key, 180°
You’re not wrong but I call it a full turn because that’s the full rotation of my wrist. It’s a repeatable movement that a lot of drummers refer to that as a full turn, even though it’s obviously 180°
It's a half turn on the drum key. Not a full turn.
I could so do a video on this exact topic, I’m sure there’s a huge divide in drummers as to full vs half turn terminology haha. I say full turn because it’s a full turn of my hand before having to alter my grip.
@@EliGreenDrums But then you turn around and do quarter turns that really are quarter turns. To be consistent those would be half turns.😁
My Tune Bot won’t read anything higher than 225
I noticed when I mute the side that I’m not tuning, it helps a lot :) also there’s a high tuning setting on it too
So hard to take a man seriously when they are wearing a t-shirt with anime on it
Even harder to take someone seriously who would take the time to write that brain dead of a comment.