Venusaur-Line Solo Challenge - Pokemon FireRed
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2023
- This is the start of the public release for formerly exclusive series that started airing in early 2023. Minor edits have been made to fix only overt errors.
Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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As a broke college student who watches all of Scott’s videos, I am so excited for this series. I wish I could contribute more financially
Liking and commenting for the almighty RUclips algorithm is also a good way to attribute
Righteousness
As a broke autistic college student same.
Just a question, not attack but sincerely interested. Do you work, because if you've watched all of Scott his videos it sounds like you have lots of spare time
Don't want to sound harsh but, if you have all these hours to watch YT then wouldn't your time be better spent earning some money? I mean this as advice not criticism, I don't know your situation.
Looking at this first playthrough, it seems you underestimate the power of Leech Seed in gen 3. It actually deals 1/8 of the target hp, and heals you for 100% of that amount. Combined with sleep powder, this offers pretty good damage and recovery.
growth would've helped with offsetting the intimidate, too. rule of thumb: if it is only a one shot with a stat boost, the stat boost is effectively free
@@Hoxeel growth only does special attack in gen 3 and there's no badge boost glitch to boost attack on use of boosting moves.
Leech Seed, Toxic, Mega Drain.
@@Hoxeelgrowth boosts physical attack starting in gen4.
Before it was only special, as Grass was a special type
Yeah, would've helped with early-game Harden/Growl users and Sand Attack spammers. It was rather frustrating seeing Scott ignoring that move in all those fights where I'm certain Leech Seed's passive damage would've been a huge help.
You can clearly see Scott's improvement in playing gen 3 games. He was non used to natures, EVs, the missing of badge boost, power creep, abilities, but he got so much better during these months and playthroughs. Now I'm looking forward to watching him playing gen4
I'm looking forward to how confused he gets with his first time thinking some moves are special that end up being physical and vice versa. That'll be funny and the improvements he makes over time will be exciting to see
22:41-23:09 To correct what Scott said here, you only need 252 Effort Values, not 552, because that would be impossible with a limit of 510 EVs.
Ya I was like wait what i had to rewind that a couple times i thought i had brainworms for a sec there
surprised he didn't correct that in the re-upload. not the end of the world but definitely a confusing error to someone who's not familiar with EV mechanics
I’ve been watching your videos for a long time now, and I’ve gotta say that no other poketuber works harder than you and no other poketuber is more passionate about it that you. It’s really a joy to watch.
Blackglasses for dark types is pretty easy to obtain. You can pick it up in the Rocket Hideout with minimal effort.
I always feel like time-exclusive stuff is a sensible way to go with stuff like this. Rewarding people able to give money is always cool, but hard to imagine anyone would be too upset that the content they got for donating is released if it's like a year later or whatever. Might even be a nice reminder it exists and have been long enough to be rewatchable by that point.
A year later? That seems kind of absurd. Most channels with exclusive content release it anywhere from a few days to a month later. You have the right idea, but delaying content for over a year just doesn't make sense. Scott has built an incredibly positive community, so I just don't understand encouraging him to make such a rash and toxic decision.
@@TheRealBlakers Wha? It was just a rough handwavey number - the description says this was origionally made at the start ot 2023, it's now getting towards the end.
I can't say I've felt the lack of this over the year has felt particularly "toxic" either, the man pumps out a pretty consistent stream of content even if this stuff had stayed private.
As a subscriber, yes, I can confirm it's fun to rewatch. That said, I don't think he's releasing it all ahead of RUclips cause he only just released the 6th or 7th video and I believe we get the next one at the same time as RUclips
I just became a member yesterday but i am super excited that everyone will be able to see more of your content. Keep up the great work
Thanks so much for the support.
Been waiting for these releases! I really would like to donate to you but I need to better my financial situation first so I can give back more later. Thank you for your hard work!
Thank you!! I watch these to go to sleep to for work :) i work overnights so sleeping is hard enough during the day. These help relax me so much!
Best poketuber, awful businessman.
Here guys, have all my stuff for free, I just feel too guilty charging you for all my hard work
It took me 6 attempts to watch this video. Trying to watch Scott while laying down with your eyes closed is a sure way to fall asleep.
Scott I think you should do all your first runs on a Neutral Nature than after the run you have a idea what moves/strategies you will use and how the pokemon works. Than on your optimized playthrough you will know what nature is best. Also love the content thanks for uploading.
The mention of fast growth rate pokemon made me check on which pokemon actually has that growth rate, seeing togekiss on that list amazed me knowing how strong it is and now I really want to see it in a run
a backported gen 2 togekiss run would be awesome!
A lot of Ghost-types too oddly enough. At least the Dusknoir, Banette, and Mismagius lines are in the Fast growth rate. Dunno why they gave the Fast growth rate to them but hey.
Thank you for making this series public ❤
Love your overlay! You and jrose are the best and as a huge fan of both i love that you each have your own niche ❤❤❤
When it comes to exclusive content you could also do it like many other channels do and release these videos on patreon like a month early compared to the RUclips release. Still provides the extra incentive for the extra dedicated members/patreons but doesn't punish non members overall. I think that's a relatively fair way to do things (Coming from someone who is currently a non member)
This means I have to organized enough to not finish everything right before the releases...
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon haha fair enough lol. Whatever works best for you at the end of the day, I'll be here waiting for the next releases however you do it. Love your vids!!!
Thanks for making these videos available to the public, I have been looking forward to them!
Oh! What a nice surprise! I just finished my homework so this is great timing.
Scott, you’re one of the few content creators that I would give money to if I were able. But all I can do now is watch, like, and comment to support your amazing content.
Nice! Excited to see the fighting type venomoth run!
"Some of you have been here for 2 years now." Gosh, I really have, haven't I? Wild to think about. I subbed at pre-1K during lockdown. Amazing that so much time has passed already.
I really enjoy your content so much!
Thanks for everything that you do.
Not only are you the RUclipsr of choice when my partner and I eat dinner but we both also use your videos for background noise to listen to while doing other things
Thanks! ♥
_Finally! The Scott _*_has come back_*_ to Kanto!_
I've been excited for these to be public.
This is amazing! Thank you very much for uploading these videos!
Man I love how your pumping out videos,can't wait to watch them all
Since you’re going for time I think you only really have two options for the EV’s: either modify them at the start as you see fit, like you do with IV’s and nature; or ignore them and get what you get. It’ll probably be very slow to seek out the EV’s you want, and by the time you can do that you’re forced to have a bunch in stats you might not want due to mandatory fights.
As yet another broke college student who watched every video you put out, thank you for making these videos public!!!!
I’ve watched so many of your videos that in my nuzlockes i’ll regularly go “i wonder how fast this pokemon would be in a scott video”😂 so it’s always great to have more content!
Thank you! Appreciate everything you do
yaaaay I can finally watch this series and be broke at the same time! Thanks a lot, Scott! I really wish I could aid the channel financially, but at the moment that's not possible xD I'm also really excited for gen IV(because of HG/SS - I despise the Sinnoh games; they made me give up on the franchise until gen VI xD)! Thanks for all the hard work and entertainment, your content is awesome and always improving! It really came to mean a lot in my life lol Cheers, all the best!
Thanks for sharing these! Super excited.
I actually love the off topic rambling about your learning process and such, so please keep it in :)
The one sucky thing about making videos members only is that I am not able to save those videos to a playlist that I listen to while I work.
Channel is blowing up man. I remember when I was in your discord helping with ideas/checking scripts etc. Super happy for ya man
Already forgot so im watching it again😂 thanks for all your uploads😊
So excited to see how this series will come along
Nice!! I’m so happy to see a playthru that has full evolutions!! Very happy to see this new series!!!
All hail the Abra evolution line😊
2nd comment,
A note on the gen 3 ai is that it’s pretty much impossible for the ais last pokemon to use any self destructing moves
unless they have random ai which some hikers do and most rocket grunts do as well, but it’s useful for something like koga
Hi Scott, I want to take a quick moment to talk about you gating off content behind memberships. I am not a paid member (it's just not something I typically do on RUclips) but I recognise that this is your job, your brand, and your business, and you have a family to support. I want to reaffirm that it is okay to gate some content off with the goal of encouraging people to compensate you. You've given us a lot for free when you had no obligation to do so (though I recognise that you do enjoy it). Obviously there is the fine balance even from a business perspective, but I just wanted to perhaps help quell any grumbling doubts or guilt you might have had in your head.
im glad you finally released it i do like the more analytic style you do nowadays but i missed the excitment and gameplay fails it makes it so much more enjoyable for me to watch. Thank you for publicly releasing it much love from a long time viewer! ♥
Love hearing everything about the overlay development.
This was my second Pokémon game with silver being the first game I ever played. Very excited to see how this game will differ from the original. Also I wonder how long it would take to beat the elite 4’s second team.
Much prefer the exclusive videos like this. Happy Venonat customer and happy everyone gets to see these regardless of payment! Keep up the amazing work (you and your team)
Yeah i have been here since your first runs. And i still watch jrose and other people who do challenge runs but i like your's the best. The overlay and talk of debugging is so much fun. I really want to dig into the code but would get pulled into the matrix.
I'm just gonna say i love the UI man, It's neat to look at
Man this a game changer literally! New moves! Can’t wait to see my boy Venusaur kick some ass! Also keep rambling my ADHD really digs all your stats and video process talks lol
I love when new Scott's Thoughts videos come out
The Agatha fight reminded me of when I did a Bulbasaur only series of videos in Pokémon Red years back, and that fight was a suuuuuch a slog to get through, haha
Super exciting to get extra videos! While you're definitely right that the general audience probably isn't here for the ui development and such as much, I really enjoy hearing about it as a fellow hobbyist programmer. As far as venusaur goes, I expect it to get fairly poor results, even though it'll always be number 1 in my heart as both my first ever starter and favorite pick for nuzlockes since it just hard carries the first 3 gyms and helps with catching because of sleep powder.
Honestly so excited to finally see these
Epic, looking forward to this
Great video. I would suggest either a Naughty, Rash, Mild, or Lonely Nature of Venusaur. The early game is loaded with Physical moves and the late game with Special moves, so it just depends where Venusaur is having the most problems.
With the early game cocoons, if they manage to get off multiple hardens, it may be better to switch to vine whip even though it's resisted, simply to hit special defense instead
I'd say Mild (+SAt, -Def) is the best nature for a Bulbasaur solo run.
It's Def is relatively low, and there aren't many scary physical attackers in the game (not until the elite 4, really). Boosting its SAt strengthens Vine Wip and Razor Leaf.
It wants Atk to use normal moves and Earthquake for coverage. It wants Spd, because in a solo run you always want to keep whatever Spd you can. There are a lot more dangerous special attackers in the game, and the Bulbasaur line already has good SDf, so there's no reason to drop that stat.
Thanks Scott, this is awesome
i have so many good and bad memories with this game, stoked to see you add it to your list of games. i do however miss the enemy stats/moveset on the TM sidebar, hope you manage/have managed to add it somehow :D
It’s already in the software don’t worry. This was just filmed in January. In a couple weeks you’ll see how far everything develops ;)
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon sweet! i really noticed it during your lorelei battle and you mentioned slowbro having ice beam. cross referencing things take time, but thats why you made the overlay in the first place
Would love to see the gen 2 starters in FireRed.
Loved the video as always Scott keep up the good stuff! I had a goofy idea about a quarter of the way through the video, very niche but I thought quite funny. Perhaps even for April fools or something would it be possible to flex your coding muscles to mod the badge boost glitch into a later game? Maybe a fire red run to make it a little more like the original red? I thought that might be interesting and funny!
wild to think ive been watching you I believe for 3 years
Thank you for making these publicly available. IMO FRLG are the "hardest" pokemon games in the series.
Been a while since I've seen this, so here I am again!
Considering how much resists grass in FRLG, if you ever run with natures, your better bet would probably be a phys venusaur (adamant nature, or - speed nature, and physical vitamins). Most rock pokemon are dual typed so u wouldnt really miss the loss of damage. This would make most of the troublesome fights you had heckin easier (way more 2 hits).
So:
Sleep powder
Return
Razor leaf/Giga Drain
Synthesis
or
Sleep powder
Return
Solarbeam
SunnyDay
Honestly, though, Venusaur just got really boned in FRLG version, as sludgebomb, swords dance, and EQ all come online way too late; while Ghosts got levitate.
I think using leech seed on Rival 2’s Pidgeotto is the correct call after sleep. I know it only has 90% accuracy but it’s reliable chip damage once it’s down, and allows you to abuse sleep better. The only downside is that surviving with multiple sand attacks on you could just waste time.
I heard a long time ago that firered and leafgreen had the same stat experience system as red and blue, despite ruby/saphire/emerald using the updated system. They even said to be sure to EV train when you trade over because it would be reset.
Based on a quick google search, it looks like I was misinformed lol. Young me was fooled by a lot of misinformation
Huh, I had no idea these were even happening. Neat!
As a contributor: I don't want exclusive content. I'm just happy to contribute. I think all of your fans should get to enjoy the stuff you make.
I've been watching this series recently, due to the fact I got randomly given membership as a gift in a stream(?) They're fun :)
Thanks for unlocking this! I know it's old but I think rash or mild might've been the optimal naturez. It's true that you don't want to lower attack so why not your defenses? Sp.D is the higher one and it's used for resists anyway, but you would have to watch out for fire and psychic so maybe defense.
I actually really like evolutions being part of the runs. Evolution level/method is just as important to a Pokémon as exp growth rates for a speed run, arguably more so for some Pokémon. Its fun to see non-evolving runs too of course.
Rip high crit razor leaf, I'd have gone with -S.def, +S.Atk for Bulba as there are a lot of physical attackers in the game, but psychic/ice might be an issue then. I was anticipating use of sludge bomb (post game TM nooo, could have sworn it was earlier, poison types can't catch a break?) and Earthquake so attack matters, but then Earthquake actually isn't great against the elite four. Return too as always.
Late game there is only 1 good special move in Razor Leaf/Giga drain which has such low PP, modern Giga is so much better. Hidden power would help Venusaur a lot.
Not sure what would have been good for Agatha. Sunny Day Solar beam might have been nice, or growth giga drain. Neither seem like big run changers. Secret power has a 30% PRZ chance while inside, like a mini body slam, that might be okay. But doesn't help with ghosts.
Leech seed is good for Agatha I think, but giving the roulette more turns could be a risk with curse and hypnosis around.
Zard gets a very needed S.Atk buff and a decent wing attack after Gen 1 so that'll be nice to look forward too.
Seeing Fire Red on here is really cool!
Let’s go Scott! You the man!
Scott, I love your series, i can't wait till we get to Ruby and Sapphire.
I feel like Sassy would be solid on a Bulbasaur. The boost to special defense would make it easier for Bulbasaur to survive the rival's fire moves, and Venusaur is not fast to begin with.
Venusaur was my favorite pokemon as a kid. I think cuz of the 3 (or 4 cuz of pikachu) Gen 1 starters Venusaur got the least amount of love so naturally I gravitated to it. And to be honest, it's a beast. Especially in modern games with the move pool, abilities, mega and gigantimax. I know ppl hate when Gen 1 gets all the love but I always get excited when Venusaur gets to shine. Gives me that nostalgia high lol
The fire red music is so nostalgic, it was my first Pokémon game.
Bulbasaur was my starter back in the day and naturally who I used for the Fire Red remakes (wherein I recreated my original team but with superior hindsight as to what works... like not insisting Pidgey has Razor Wind), so I look forward to see how the classic starter's entire evolution line does in conquering the Kanto region.
3:50 - To be fair, Luvdisc needed something, even if it is to gain EXP so quick that you spend less time using it.
5:04 - Also to be fair, it's not like Bulbasaur gets an offensive Grass move particularly quick, what with Vine Whip not being until Level 10. You go through Viridian Forest without it but enter the Pewter Rock Gym with it.
6:48 - I don't think Modest nature would work out that well due to the early game situation of relying on Tackle and Bulbasaur's overall movepool. Aside from Grass, all the other attacks it can learn/be taught such as Sludge Bomb, Strength, etc are of a Physical nature. Perhaps it'd pan out from such a super focus on Special Attack and late game speed-up but I do think it might slow down the start too much.
9:15 - You chose Bulbasaur as well? Awesome! Also nice to see Ivysaur in action; such a cool middle stage design and my favourite look for the line.
11:23 - It does seem like you should be throwing out a Leech Seed after the Sleep Power, to heal up during those unfortunate times you miss from Sand Attack blindness. An never mind, you go for that tactic at 11:32. I spoke too soon.
14:07 - Cool to see Secret Power being utilised on Ivysaur. It's a move-set addition that I don't think you'd see outside of a solo challenge. Shame Kadabra Disabled it in this instance but I see that proved little problem for you.
15:37 - Is that new art of the Rapping Lass Alicia? It seems to be a lot of brighter and clearer than I recall. Rather fun to see the proper names of these distinctive route trainers thanks to playing the remake here.
17:22 - Love the idea of Pidgeotto being Bulba the Venasaur's archenemy. It is at times Blue's (or Butt's in this case) signature Pokémon.
20:26 - Oh wow; I knew about the Braking part but the consistent item lined up with each lamppost is all new to me. Amazing what one can still learn about a 19 year old game.
26:17 - Hmm, I wonder if Giga Drain and/or Rest might be best for Venasaur here. I always like the Sleep Powder/Leech Seed combo that I'd have kept that, but given you have to sweep entire teams, I can see why you opted for Growth and Return as part of your move-set.
29:11 - Oh my gosh; nice to see Venasaur tanking things like the bulky looking frog should be able too from appearance. Even better considering it's against Sabrina's formidable ace, the definitely Psychic type Venomoth.
31:29 - Bulba gracefully hopping over the Fire Blast is a wonderful image to imagine.
32:19 - Once again, I apparently spoke too soon as here you are opting for Razor Leaf. An Earthquake is an interesting choice for a Venasaur. Lucky you didn't go with that Modest nature then.
34:50 - How nice of Bruno to give your Bulba a free Super Potion in the form of his Onix.
35:51 - I was thinking Sludge Bomb would be the better option here, take advantage of the lower physical defence of Gengar and the like, but then I remembered that Ghost resists Poison so the 4x resistance negates any advantage there.
37:52 - What a close showdown with Agatha here! Epic fight here and most of it involved your opponent taking naps... by force.
By far my favorite starter in gen 1, solid choise in hardcore nuzzlocks.
Oh nice! Blastoise has the world record down on this game, so that will be fun!
Finally a public FR run
When using vitamins, you can use ten of each on a pokemon with zero stat experience except for one stat. The vitamins won't raise the evs above a set value (ten each per stat), and there is also a total number of vitamins you can give.
1:06 guys, he's finally going to use the Fighting/Ground type: Venomoth!
Woooooo!! So excited!
I know the charizard in the thumbnail is related to the actual game cover but hear me out. How sick would it be if it was the super famous charizard pose that’s on the crazy expensive rare Pokémon card. Would be awesome
Great content as always! One thing I've noticed is that it sounds like you are always unsure how to pronounce Exeggcute. In every media I've seen they just pronounce it like the for Execute (the egg in the middle is just for fun spelling). But say it however you want it course haha
Is the fighting type Venomoth?
Fighting Pokemon coming? So it's venomoth in Firered? Nice
As someone whose very first pokemon game was fire red and very first starter was bulbasaur, i can predict whatever will happen at every point in this video.
Also, this video deserves a like.
EditS:
5:59 the critical hit didn't mattered, bulbasaur always one-shots onix
9:42 when i played for the first time, i was stuck at that fight for a long time lmao💀
Firered seems like a step up in some way in trems of difficulty in some areas compared to the original gen 1 games. 😊
The iv/ev system is basically making vitamins not matter all that much. And also you'll need to think before grinding for levels in order to get the Evs that you'll need for major battles.
Most of the bugs are fixed ,and badge boost are working as they should, and the ai likes to set up a lot,or soeed control if it can. So I guess that it's going to be a different experience then gen 1,for most Pokémon. The venosaur line is a good way to start . Once you'll get to know the game , you'll be able to do better.😊 So try to have fun while doing so.
I can't wait for Charizard's turn , because I used it on my first firered run.😊
You're only gaining a single EV per stat/mon in most cases so you need to do a large amount of grinding to see a meaningful difference.
@@TheGhostFart For sure. But you'll need to make sure that you grind for the right ones that you'll need, for some fights it does make the difference. Usually weaker Pokémon need to be fully ev trained in order to solo run the game .😄
Awesome news mate!
Regarding the EV system there are some places for just 1 single stat, such as spA in pkmn tower,sabrina gym trainers, speed in blaine gym and attack in the fighting dojo. Hope this helps and for early prebrock grinding, the route where the optional rival is has the only attack ev in mankey and the rest are speed evs from there
Attack has Machop and Mankey lines at Cycling Road as well.
The Birdkeepers near Fuchsia also gives Attack and Speed EVs with their Spearows, Fearows, and Dodrio.
Also, at Celadon Gym, you can either get Attack EVs if you go left or Special Attack EVs if you go right.
We’re all here to hear Scott say “…UGH, it’s so frustrating!”
Glad to see your FR run being released to the public, for subsequent battles will you be doing league 2 as well as that i feel is the true final end of FRLG, also with some rare candies and useful hidden items location being swapped compared to the original gen1 games, it may be nice trying to know their location.
It may also be a debate to give yourself straight 60 pokemon for your dex right at the start so u have exclusive rights to some of the aides items, and instant access to sevii island part 2 once u cleared the league P1
You Rock Scott!
Wow, St Anne battle at 14:00 -> sand attack into kinesis into smokescreen XD lmao
Heh
One thing I didn't know for the longest time is that a bunch of the potted plants in Silph Co have hidden items.
Thank you for this content brother. Also, my favourite ever evolution line. Bulbasaur won me over from the moment I saw him! 🙏🏻
Can’t remember the nature name but I tend to use +special attack and -speed as he is already slow, boosting his later game special moves like solarbeam, leech seed/giga drain. It doesn’t lower his attack for moves like razor leaf and earthquake either. Just my opinion though.
Personally I like sunny day, solarbeam, sleep powder/giga drain/synthesis and earthquake as a final move build.
Only criticism I can really give is that you didn’t utilise leech seed enough in the early game. It’s really helpful.
Your final move set was …. Well weak to say the least.
Special attack doesnt affect leech seed. Also, razorleaf is considered a special move in Gen 3.
I dont think leech will speed him along much as its too slow for a race. Maybe for early bosses.
@@wmzer0mw Would’ve secured early wins instead of the losses/resets he received by trying to go to fast. He didn’t utilise the healing moves of grass types very well.
I really thought everyone had been taught the tortoise and the hare. You don’t need to always rush to get the quickest time, he didnt really utilise what grass type are good for; their consistency and ability to self sustain, not sprint through the game.
Honestly, almost any time he plays a grass type Pokémon, I have found myself overwhelmingly disappointed with this take and performance. He doesn’t see their advantages he just tries the same as every other type and bash his way through. This seems to be a curse of poketubers, they don’t use grass types well.
Also it’s true that it wouldn’t ‘boost leech seed’ but it would for giga drain. Which was an alternative for that slot for self sustain. Razor leaf would be good regardless then which is interesting to note, gen 3 out of the older gens is my least played so I don’t remember basically anything about them aha.
@@GBNationalist
Slow and steady is not too helpful for a race especially with Venusaur here. Venusaurs consistency would improve if he netted himself 2 hit kills instead of drawn out fights of 3-5 hit kills. So the issue is mainly damage.
I get where you are commin from, but turning most battles into 8 turn slug fests (8 turns for leech seed to kill something) + sleep turn slows saur to a crawl and opens him up to crit kills.
Gigadrain is ok but only at 60 base power during Gen 3, its good for SE damage but i wouldnt rely on it elsewhere. That being said its still better than razor leaf at 55 BP
For saur to win he needs to punch harder, and saur is actually pretty close to netting 2 hits.
Scott had the right idea to play with Saurs movepool. Im still of the opinion that to do this run saur needs to be phys, not special as too many things resist grass moves.
Honestly, Gen 3 just did venusaur dirty. It literally has all the moves it needs to shred gen 3 but almost all of them unlock post game.
@@wmzer0mw I guess this explains why gen 3 always felt off to me and I played it the least.
at 1:10 I wanna say I approve of the nod to Hyrule Gamer.
its a good thing those gengars have terrible movesets and are frail lol. fun vid man, thanks for doing fire red for the freebies
a fighting type we've all wanted to see?
well it's not pokemon yellow, but it's definitely a machop!
and ooofff... Charmander line? well at least you'll get Charizard early (still remember my level 27 Charmeleon fainting to Misty in FireRed)
SO HYPE!!! FINALLY GEN 3 KANTO!!!
Koga’s monotype flying venomoth got me SHAKEN