Speedrunners FINALLY Broke Pokemon Fire Red After 19 Years
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Speedrunners FINALLY Broke Fire Red After 19 YEARS with Arbitrary Code Execution...
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Even after working on this video, I'm still in disbelief that FireRed/LeafGreen finally has a Glitched Speedrunning Category. 😭
Same 😭 it's been barely over a week
For anyone out of the loop, this game came out 2 weeks ago.
@@pokemerrp Absolutely incredible and jaw dropping job to you pokemerrp and those who worked with you! I cannot fathom the amount of work that was put in to finding out how to incorporate ACE into FRLG, so congratulations! Nothing but respect for all of you. And thanks to PulseEffect for the great breakdown of this truly splendid accomplishment for pokemon speedrunning!
I'm a little confused but in the video it seems like you don't need to do any ACE to clone the items, just to do the speed run bit? Can I clone items with just a Far'fetched and Mr . Mime?
Correct. Easy pz Just keep giving mail to the glitched mon
We've really come full circle from playground rumors where we told each other to do a bunch of random arbitrary nonsense in order to glitch the game, to ACE, in which you do extremely precise arbitrary nonsense in order to glitch the game.
With ACE, Mew really _is_ under the truck.
You joke, but IIRC years ago Mr. Cheeze made an exploit to get Mew under the truck that could only be removed by getting into the Hall of Fame. @@budgetcoinhunter
Makes you wonder if some kid managed to find ACE purely by accident and thats where it all started
I wouldn't doubt it. Apparently the Mew glitch was recorded back during the Gen 1 era, it's just the few who came across it didn't believe it because of all the other false rumors out there.@@lewisblackwiththenicehair
exactly what i was thinking. i tried soooooo much bullshit as a kid to get shaymin, mew, manaphy, and a ton of other legendaries lol.
I love how this discovery legit came down to Lucky being like “Oh Arceus, I said something wrong on the internet. I must correct this immediately.”
Fun fact, ocarina of time any% doesn't actually use ACE anymore because we found something equally broken that lets us credit warp faster (the ability to just edit memory directly).
Actually, pokemon itself is similar - there is an ACE credits warp in Red, but using it is SLOWER than just using save corruption and party overflow to warp to the end of the game.
Amazing LOL! No wonder Ocarina of Time's gone down so low.
the ACE route was nearly as fast but yeah what we got is real broken
Under 4 minutes!? When was this memory editing strat discovered? The last time I saw any speedruns the WR was around 10 minutes or so with ACE.
@@porkeyminch8044 four of those minutes were just a change to the timing method (intro cutscene isn't included anymore). Three minutes were saved by making the SRM route faster
@@MrCheeze Even Still, cutting the actual playtime almost in half is pretty insane. When was the faster SRM discovered?
I guess credit warp in FRLG isn't so Farfetch'd, after all :)
Lol😂
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It took over 20 years, but someone finally found a way to make Farfetch'd useful!
*Enjoys Farfetch'd Soup from Kalos* It's always been useful, it's just that someone found a different use for it.
They even tried evolving it and this was still more effective 😂
Farfetched is surprisingly a really good solo run pokemon for gen 1
Fun fact, having Farfetch'd on your team actively makes the rest of your team better by letting you keep Cut and Fly around without having to put either of these moves on your actual battlers. It's always been useful
do not be mean to the duck
Crazy how many glitches are still being found. That's some dedication
Access to the source code lets runners exploit any possible bugs
More like exploit than a simple glitch.
Holy fuck. I cannot believe it. I've watched at least 1000 hours of speedruns of this game and I never thought this'd be possible.
We are living in a new and exciting era of Pokemon Speedrunning.
Another masterpiece from Pulse 😍 The gen 1-4 sweep is finally real
Onward to Gen 5!
@@PulseEffectsits being researched atm. iirc someone had sorta done it through mystery gifts
While I was watching Abyssoft’s video I was wondering why I hadn’t heard of the glitch from this channel. I’m glad that your video had so much extra information about it!
Truly amazing for speedrunners to have an ACE setup within the game. Also nice for casual glitch-users, because FRLG ACE was locked behind being able to transfer glitch eggs\moves over from Emerald.
Arbitrary Code Execution is so ridiculous. "The game didn't know what was happening, so it just chose a completely different number to read instead." What even.
It's objectively si interesting if you do some incredibly specific actions until the universe just decides to just do something else
This is the exact mode that someone uses to exploit holes in operating systems running on iPhones and Android or in web browsers. LiveOverflow has great series on this.
This stuff generally involves invalid lengths. So the game tries to read extra data, but that extra data is actually a completely different thing that happens to be stored nearby. This stuff happens outside of video games, for example in the Heartbleed exploit,
ACE is what happens when you mix video games with cybersecurity nerds.
I would never even consider attempting a real speedrun of any game, but I have so much admiration for people who do and have watched hundreds of hours of speed runs of many different games. It’s truly amazing that people are still discovering glitches in games that are so old and have been run for over a decade.
You can give abra into the daycare with all the extra steps up to orania city and the s.s Anne this should be 3-4 potentially extra level before the actual leveling begins for mr.mime
Good idea, but you access the route where you trade for Mr Mime from Diglett Tunnel in Vermillion City while the Daycare is back on the Route south of Cerulean City. So you’d have to drop off Abra, do S.S. Anne, then backtrack to Cerulean to pick up Abra before returning to Vermillion again to get to where the Mr Mike trade is. So instead of Cerulean > SS Anne > Mr Mime, it becomes Cerulean > SS Anne > Cerulean > Vermillion > Mr Mime.
For just a few levels when you’re on the cusp of duplicating Rare Candies anyway, it probably isn’t worth it unfortunately.
Great video as always Pulse, nicely done!
This is wild. Cool to see after all that was thought to exist here was the Nugget glitch!
Absolutely amazing stuff! Never thought an ACE exploit as powerful as this could be found after so long
Really makes me wonder just how much further one could push ACE glitches if used outside of speedrunning
look up "pokemon yellow arbitrary code excecution"
The TASbot Triforce% run of Ocarina of Time is a pretty good demonstration of what you can do with ACE
It’s actually crazy, theres some cool applications in generations 1 and 2
The answer is anything. Look up TAS arbitrary code execution pokemon yellow.
Crazy that such a tiny oversight could break the game wide open. FR/LG Glitched runs gonna be nuts in the next few weeks I bet
It truly was... a pokemon fire red and leaf green
I always thought Game Freak should have made MissingNo an official Pokémon.
It could have been a Ghost Type that resembles when you lost something but have no idea it’s missing.
Perhaps after set number of level ups a random item from you inventory would go missing and MissingNo will eventually evolve taking the form of that item.
A second typing could be gained based on what it is: berries or plants results in a grass ghost type, a liquid like freshwater or lemonade results in a water ghost type, a Pokéball or other metallic item will result in a steel ghost type, and others just stay pure Ghost Type.
Genius concept
i saw another video on this yesterday but it's always nice to hear from your channel. gotta love mail!
I've seen people claiming that the new mail glitch is the one that was just found, the Mr Mime swap was the newest one found in 20 years, and now this. I feel like people are just breaking this game over and over again now, and I'm genuinely curious about which way is faster now.
I feel like when something gamebreaking is found Mr. Mime is always close by
Love the video good job and also good job to thumbnail artist (also I find it funny how in 0:10 it use Hypno lullaby missingno )
Her: "My boyfriend isn't around, he's probably cheating on me"
What he has actually been doing:
Man really said, “I’ve decided I’m right.” And meant it.
The fact that people are still finding new glitches for such an old game
"oh shit my comment is incorrect time to glitch-hunt for *MULTIPLE DAYS* to correct myself"
Hypnos lullaby jumpscare at the beginning
Wait, I remember not putting pokemon with mail into the box being common knowledge for pokemon players back in the day
We are living... in the current year and day... and age! How is this even possible?!
nice video!! i am interested what the word "wandering" is for a german version of the game. is this possible for a german version?
07:51 if T.J Henry Yoshi is watching, I hope he isn't having flashbacks.
I think the best example of what ACE can do is MrWint's TAS of Pokemon Yellow. With it beeing a tool assisted run, he changes the game in a way that allows him to literally stream code via the buttons, which the game immediately executes.
8:52 very fitting that box 2 looks like it's saying "Oh nO"
I’ve played this game as a kid when I was 7 years old, I didn’t know the speedrunning category was so active
This Missingno animation is a masterpiece for Gen 5 sprites! I want it in this games😂
Also, without pulse, I'd never know any of these developments, so praise pulse!
This feels like a playground rumor on steroids
I'll be forever amazed at how people discover such specific things. I mean, how did thry figure out the box names?
Merrp is a massive expert at Pokemon Emerald. And since this Box renaming + Pokemon corruption is a big part of certain Emerald Glitched Speedruns, she was able to easily figure out which Box names would work for FRLG!
deep knowledge of how the game works. using emulators, decomps and knowing assembly are essential to figuring them out
@@ArbitraryCodeExecutionwdym knowing decomps? and is hex not necessary
@@ozash226 pret project, wdym hex (i didnt mention hexadecimal but its useful ig)
Having ACE in all g3 games is a dream that I hope comes true.
you now know just how much the mail items were ignored when it took 20 years to find bugs involving them.
LuckyTyphlosion was really critical in getting the original Pomeg glitch corruption research going 10 years ago as well. The tradition continues
It's beautiful that the glitch works by having a Mr. Mime transform into a reality-warping abomination
I love it when "the game gets confused"
FRLG have got to be the best programmed games Game Freak has ever produced. It took nearly 20 years to crack them open to glitching and it also took a significant amount of time to develop strategies to reliably manipulate the RNG in those games as well. I don't think there's any other Game Freak game as unbreakable as these ones
I found one glitch in Leaf Green, as far as I can tell the only thing that triggered it was beating the elite four over and over. But what happened was there were 2 other player characters in the elite four room, one standing out of bounds turning like an NPC looking for a battle.
Is corrupting the Mr. Mime with specific EVs to create a glitch executioner the same as Emerald does with Seedot?
Yep! It's a very similar concept, I'm not sure exactly how the emerald glitch is executed, but FRLG swaps the EVs with the Pokemon species data to create the glitched mon.
Wondering this as well, as teleporting to Naval Rock and Birth Island in FRLG (and shiny hunting with SRs there) would be more ideal than RAs in Emerald at those locations.
@@BluMagma7 yeah emerald does the same EVs -> species swap just with pomeg corruption (xor PID high-half with 0x4000)
Mail? Oh.... my god.... that takes back memories. It's been eighty years.
Have there already been box codes discovered for more than just HoF warping, or is that still an in progress thing?
Very much an in progress thing! So far the discoveries are, Hall of Fame Warp, Spawn Items, and make any Pokemon available through Hatching Eggs. Definitely recommend checking out the Discord for more! discord.com/invite/5qqmmAk
Missingno was my first contact with performing a ritual to contact and obscure creature, to obtain infinite wealth with terrible unintended consequences.
Man these discoveries are always so sick.
This video double kicked me and paralyzed both of us
man I love seeing new glitches like this especially ones that find ways to utilize ACE. Couldn't be more stoked that FR/LG finally got cracked. It always makes me wonder though just how many games are out there that are no where near as popular that hold amazing glitches like these.
I went bug-eyed hearing Arbitrary Code Execution because I've heard about OOT speedruns from Bismuth and the like
Noted: never tell mr. mime "wondering", that breaks reality.
The craziest part is that lucky forgot about fr/lg’s existence and wanted to avoid embarrassment
The tittle said FireRed without the LeafGreen😥
ok you friggin got me
celeste
into undertale
into crosscode
the music had me 🕺
Holy fuck guys I don’t wanna say build a rocket but building a spaceship should be an option for you
I don't follow speedrunning. I was never really interested in Pokemon until a few days ago. And despite that, I am blown away. The process, the dedication, it's incredible.
Btw awesome background music selection in this vid
Another good ACE example - SethBling turned Super Mario World into a flappy bird clone.
Can anyone confirm this for me? When I was a child I was playing silver through Pokémon stadium 2. I had a level 12 wooper and I defeated a level 14 pidgy at the bug contest area. My wooper leveled all the way to 100. Is this a know glitch? I could never replicate it. My only other memory is that I started with cyndaquil and I had a bellsprout as well.
Thanks!
I actually have a similar-ish story. Was training a Pupitar on the route just below Blackthorn and ran into one of the '?????' glitchmons in the grass. Was also playing via Stadium 2. I think the Transfer Pak might just be a finicky POS and whenever it doesnt fail outright and boot you to the error screen, stuff can happen haha
*Probably* just a dirty connector on the cartridge or the Transfer Pak. Usually it errors out, but if it breaks connection at precisely the right moment it should read corrupted data, and the old GBC games barely had any data integrity checks.
eyes skipped over "fire" in the title and i had a moment of "wdym FINALLY"
Oh boy here we go.
I remember how I remembered back in the original diamond and pearl i used tweaking and trade evolutions to cut the game in two
We we be able to get event items for the legendaries like this?
And since it's an ACE, I'm sure someone will eventually turn it into something like the OoT Triforce% run or that Pokemon Yellow 0:00 any% TAS that turns into Gold, Tetris, Link's Awakening, Mario, Portal and Spongebob.
Ace with machine help was used to create extra scenes in orcarina of time
I messed up the glitch so badly I got a Charmander
WARNING!!!
If the Charmander knows the moves Lick (?6/?3 PP, Type/CK), "I can't even write the name of the move, that's how messed up it is" (?3/?7 PP, Type/NORMAL) and *Blank space* (0/0 PP, Type/NORMAL), then first of all, you got MY Charmander and second *breaths in* DON'T OPEN IT'S SUMMARY, DON'T TEACH IT ANY MOVES BY TM OR HM, DON'T USE ANY MOVES IN BATTLE AND DON'T SCROLL TO IT'S SUMMARY SCREEN FROM ONE POKÉMON TO CHARMANDER OR ELSE A REALLY LOUD NOISE WILL PLAY IN LOOP *breaths in again* so be careful.
Holy moly… I’ve been amazed for years at how together FRLG are as games, but now…. oh wow.. I’ll need to tinker around with this
With how specific this all is, you could completely make up a speedrun strategy and pass it off as an April Fools video 😂
This is the magic of Pokemon games, after 20 years they still have secrets to be discovered
Praise the glitch hunters! I have no idea what they're doing but LET THEM COOK
So can the mail glitch be used to unlock events or anything like that? Been trying to get all FRLG mons without hacking.
yeah
Is this a redone / reuploaded video? I thought I watched this topic, but it wasn't in my watch history. And I don't remember the OoT mention
Next project: Ace in Gen 4 I guess
How do we figure out the box names
I really like this glitch, it looks exactly like the insane setups from blue and red
At this point, im sure ACE can be found in probably every game on handhelds.
i wonder if FRLG Catch ‘Em All is possible now with ACE, like it is with red and blue
It 100% is! But it'll take some time to research it all.
Only watched a minute and already excited for the video!
as a glitch entusiast im going to be trying this one thanks mate
ok so we're essentially gaslighting the game into thinking we won? awesome
i mean, the remote code execution as a feature in gen3 using GC-GBA link will probably never be allowed in speedruns (literally get code exec as soon as you poweron the game!), so I guess this is the second best solution
Is possible modify this glitch to obtain the tickets for deoxys and lugia ??
Pokémon speedruns nowadays are crazy. Like what's the next step y'all are gonna make? speedrun the trainer card stickers? Idk something weird like that
I'm trying to use your method and I successfully Knock offed Mr. Mime's Mail then used recycle. This gave Mr. Mime the Oran berry. I've also noticed, when stating "equipping the team with mail" it doesn't state if there is specific phrases- so any is OK right?
I kept getting a bad egg
I got a level 100 squirtle too
OoT speed runs may change soon due to the ability to load most maps in other maps. Though ace may still be faster.
Hey man, just wanna say I love your vids. Have a great day. That is all :)
It took 15+ years, but fire red & leaf green (and by extension all games from gen 1-5) finally have a faster english glitched category...
Wait a minute
In fire red years ago I encountered an oddish outside fuschia city that used transform and turned into a green block and crashed my game and no one ever believed me apart from my brother as I showed him the frozen game
what if magic is just ACE irl
If this video came out in 2008 it’d be complete baloney, but what’s crazy is every single thing here is real
Whenever I see video like this, I always ask myself: How tf do people figure this stuff out. Impressive
I read 'Pokemon Red' and was about to say,
'What do you mean finally broke pokemon red? All it takes is to boot up the game'
That glitch is so crazy.
Speedrunning fun and all but what about going to Deoxys one of the most popular things to do with ACE in emerald is getting to mew or deoxys is this now possible in fire red?
This should 100% be possible! Naval Island for Lugia/Ho-Oh should also be possible in due time.
@@PulseEffects cool I hope there will be some tutorials for that soon
pokemerrp's channel has a tutorial for just this!
@@ellasorellabrella wait really I must check it out
Does the item duplication work with master balls lol
Yes!
There's such a thing as over-editing