👑Be sure to leave a like if you liked the video & Subscribe for More Videos like these! 👑One thing I would change here is the Lightning - use the normal Lightning Armament instead of Vyke's. It does the same damage, lasts longer and it doesn't have the Negative effects of the Lightning Defense Degradation that Vyke's has. Other than that, very fun build. Very versatile. ======================================== ✅ Sub to My 2nd YT Channel: www.youtube.com/@oxfordkingreacts ✅ Follow My Twitch: www.twitch.tv/oxfordking ======================================== ⌚ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Backhand Blade Build Guide 00:41 Weapon Location 01:07 Moveset 03:14 The Positives & Negatives of this Weapon 04:05 Blind Spot Ash of War 04:56 Why I LOVE This Weapon 05:53 Armor Set 06:25 Talismans 08:33 Physick 09:21 Sacred Seal 10:24 Incantations 13:28 RL 300 Attribute Points 15:21 RL 150 Attribute Points 16:05 RL 200 Attribute Points 17:01 RL 250 Attribute Points 18:14 Great Runes 18:49 Questions & Comments!
Once you get the 2 headed turtle endurance means almost literally nothing at all. I'm rocking a build similar to this and for testing I put my endurance down to the lowest I could on samurai which was just enough to still have me medium load. I went from the beginning of the dlc all the way up to the end with defeating most dlc bosses (only reason I say most is because I didn't know there was a legendary dragon boss therefore I never got the dragon transformation heart thingy) and with that endurance I had absolutely no trouble out of stam. Not once did I ever say I wish I needed more stam or wish I had more dodges or anything. Like the stam bar just went non existence to me because I had 100% absolute faith I would always have stam with the 2 head turtle talisman.
The Fire damage from Blood Flame Blade increases with the Faith Scaling of the seal used. This brings the Erdtree Seal to mind since it has the best scaling in Faith, but the Godslayer's Seal for some reason gives an even bigger damage increase. So if all you use it for is buffing your weapon, the Godslayer's Seal is the best. You obviously need to level Faith aswell.
Just gonna let you know electrify armament and Vykes dragon bolt are the exact same except dragonbolt is worse because it’s harder to get and tanks your lightning resist
@@fredrick-jr1qi electrify armament also lasts 90 seconds vs 70 seconds for vykes without the talisman (so 120 seconds vs 93 seconds with the talisman) So yeah other than coolness factor vykes is pointless
vykes dragon bolt is also considered as both body and weapon buff so you can't use another body buff with it. also he said golden vow expires quickly but it lasts more than blood flame blade soo... yeah
I hadn't done the battle with Millicent's sisters on my currently playthrough, and with the backhand blades it made that fight SOOOOOOOO much easier. I've got this current build ready to switch between Blackhand & Guts Greatsword at any time, and it's incredibly satisfying having that tag team of weapons.
I think using the bleed affinity is better with the dragon seal because of arcane scaling. My preference is the Erdtree seal because or I believe the faith points strengthen buffs and bloodflame blade.
Erdtree Seal is definitely the way to go. I made this video early and in haste. My later guides mentions the change in seals. Appreciate your comment and insights for others to read 👍
Thanks so much you helped me understand a lot more about how to allocate my points. I am level 403 but you made me put those points right. Also great video, excellent content and THANKS🙏⚔⚔🙏
Make sure to use more FTH than what I mentioned. With your High RL you'll want 80+ FTH that scales best with your Seal for Black flame blade and lightning armament. This video was my first of many for Elden Ring and my recommendations for Faith requirements were incorrect.
Amazing guide, very detailed and for various levels builds. To make it even better i think using electrify armament instead of vyke dragonbolt is better, because it gives the same power and lasts 20 sec more(90 instead of 70). The body enhancement of vyke dragonbolt is only maximum equip load. And with that u can add a body spell of choice. Hopping for more guides like this!!!
Great extra tips you added here! Thank you! I'll be playing FFXIV Dawntrail soon so the guides will be mixed between Elden Ring DLC and FFXIV I'm still on my first playthrough of ER: DLC Cheers!
I get more damage with these if I use flame art infusion or Holy since I'm a Dex/Faith user, you actually get less damage if you just use Keen to get to S Scaling
@benjaminking6949 its worth it still, having an S Scaling in dex will only get you so far and theres plenty of incantations to increase fire affinity and physical damage
Oh nice! One thing I would change here is the Lightning - use the normal Lightning Armament instead of Vyke's. It does the same damage, lasts longer and it doesn't have the Negative effects of the Lightning Defense Degradation that Vyke's has. Other than that, very fun build. Very versatile.
The weapon buff incantations scale based on faith, so bloodflame or vyke's are useless with 12. You can see the elemental damage numbers on your equipment page. It's also increased by the faith scaling of your seal. I.e. the letter by faith, not the incant scaling.
So during my playthrough, I don't ever look up guides - I just play blindly - so I missed Swift Slash and Helped Leda instead. I won't have that "broken" build until my next playthrough.
The weapon definitely has I-frames. At the start of the consort Radahn fight, when he charges up and then spins quickly towards you, I use the AoW to dodge everything. The shockwave, the initial hit, it dodges everything and there’s no way it can’t unless it has I-frames
@@oxfordking when I'm using it I treat it like a medium load roll that covers more ground and deals good damage as a bonus. It's a very useful tool if a regular roll won't quite do what you need in a specific circumstance
Yeah I don't watch guides or read about the game on Reddit etc - I play blind (more fun for me) so I knew nothing of Swift Slash at the time of recording this. I also chose to assist Leda and got the other Weapon / Ash of War instead. I can't get that AoW until another playthrough.
Great Question: The Ash of War and the Affinity share synergy meaning you would need to select an Ash of War first and them the Affinity that Ash of War supports.
I always forget about Vykes spell. The backhand blade and the martial arts are my favorite weapons in the DLC. They are just fun to use. I always loved the Bandits' Curved Swords but they really struggled vs shields, the skill on the backhand blade's poke opens them up to be shredded.
So I wish I played around with the other Lightning Armament before I hit record and spent Hours editing this video... The Lightning Armament is actually the better option - it lasts 20 seconds longer and does the same damage. Not to mention we don't take a hit on Lightning Res. Big miss on my part... BUT the Red Lightning is 100% Cool Factor.
Yeah its great just make note that once Frostbite is applied you really have nothing left for that proc unless you add Fire to the enemy which will reset the Frostbite. Personally I like using 2 Scavengers Curved Swords with Cold in one hand and Bleed in the other for 2 Burst Procs. But I like the moveset and the quickness of the Backhand Blades.
Anytime - I'm still playing the game with this one - I'll try to get some other builds up on the channel soon. I also play FFXIV Online and the Expansion hits this Friday so I'll pause to check that out for a bit. ER and FFXIV videos coming soon.
so random question, When you two hand the backhand blade does the two handed talisman from dlc still give a buff or is that only for big weapons like great katana and so on?.
You can't have an affinity on the blades already. If you have it bleed, fire, magic cold or something then you can't buff it. It has to be heavy, keen quality or standard. (Maybe occult. I haven't tried actually)
You most likely have a Weapon Affinity on it that will not allow Incantations. Double check your Weapon Affinity. In this video, I have Keen which allows for Spell Buffs.
i just hope this build will kill DLC radahn..........i hate my thorn build goes right tho DLC Radahn n not dmg him.........also can this build kill the fire golems??
This build is viable with all content - this is why I switch between bloodflame blade and Lightning so that you can take on all enemy types in the game. For Furnace Golems you will use the Lightning Armament - this staggers them much quicker.
@oxfordking also I'm at lvl 280 how should I build it so I can 100% kill radahn n maybe even the dragon boss thx......cause right now I'm pretty much playing other games cause I can't beat radahn 😑😑😑😑😑
@@Zeno3020 since it’s a smithing stone weapon you can basically change the aow with the same aow just go to any grace or smithy and hit aow and click backhand then click the affinity you want
I killed the final boss using only these weapons. Blinspot is broken against him. Try using it against his opening attack once and you will never look back. It feel so satisfying
You don't really use the skill for attacking as much as dodging and poking so I would use Millicent's Prosthesis or something else to improve the damage of the main attacks or for defense.
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👑One thing I would change here is the Lightning - use the normal Lightning Armament instead of Vyke's. It does the same damage, lasts longer and it doesn't have the Negative effects of the Lightning Defense Degradation that Vyke's has. Other than that, very fun build. Very versatile.
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00:00 Backhand Blade Build Guide
00:41 Weapon Location
01:07 Moveset
03:14 The Positives & Negatives of this Weapon
04:05 Blind Spot Ash of War
04:56 Why I LOVE This Weapon
05:53 Armor Set
06:25 Talismans
08:33 Physick
09:21 Sacred Seal
10:24 Incantations
13:28 RL 300 Attribute Points
15:21 RL 150 Attribute Points
16:05 RL 200 Attribute Points
17:01 RL 250 Attribute Points
18:14 Great Runes
18:49 Questions & Comments!
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Once you get the 2 headed turtle endurance means almost literally nothing at all. I'm rocking a build similar to this and for testing I put my endurance down to the lowest I could on samurai which was just enough to still have me medium load. I went from the beginning of the dlc all the way up to the end with defeating most dlc bosses (only reason I say most is because I didn't know there was a legendary dragon boss therefore I never got the dragon transformation heart thingy) and with that endurance I had absolutely no trouble out of stam. Not once did I ever say I wish I needed more stam or wish I had more dodges or anything. Like the stam bar just went non existence to me because I had 100% absolute faith I would always have stam with the 2 head turtle talisman.
The Fire damage from Blood Flame Blade increases with the Faith Scaling of the seal used. This brings the Erdtree Seal to mind since it has the best scaling in Faith, but the Godslayer's Seal for some reason gives an even bigger damage increase. So if all you use it for is buffing your weapon, the Godslayer's Seal is the best. You obviously need to level Faith aswell.
Just gonna let you know electrify armament and Vykes dragon bolt are the exact same except dragonbolt is worse because it’s harder to get and tanks your lightning resist
@@fredrick-jr1qi But have you considered that red lightning looks cool
@@sanford9492 could also swap to the bloodflame blade for things that use lightning attacks, then swap back when you want to lol.
@@fredrick-jr1qi electrify armament also lasts 90 seconds vs 70 seconds for vykes without the talisman (so 120 seconds vs 93 seconds with the talisman)
So yeah other than coolness factor vykes is pointless
vykes dragon bolt is also considered as both body and weapon buff so you can't use another body buff with it.
also he said golden vow expires quickly but it lasts more than blood flame blade soo... yeah
I hadn't done the battle with Millicent's sisters on my currently playthrough, and with the backhand blades it made that fight SOOOOOOOO much easier. I've got this current build ready to switch between Blackhand & Guts Greatsword at any time, and it's incredibly satisfying having that tag team of weapons.
Reminds me of blades of mercy's play style cant wait to use it
Yeah it's hella fun. I'm working on another build guide using Milady blades.
I love this build! Thanks for showing where the weapon was!
Anytime & thanks for commenting!
i wouldnt go any lower than 60 vigor in the DLC, just my opinion
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I’m at 40 something and on the final boss, it’s not that bad
if youre higher level use the blood affinity and put some points in arcane it will proc bleed quicker and deal some more damage.
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@@PaulNitschke you can't use the incantation then right ?
This is true. Making it a bit of a hassle
I think using the bleed affinity is better with the dragon seal because of arcane scaling. My preference is the Erdtree seal because or I believe the faith points strengthen buffs and bloodflame blade.
Erdtree Seal is definitely the way to go. I made this video early and in haste. My later guides mentions the change in seals. Appreciate your comment and insights for others to read 👍
Loved this build, thank you!
Nice and you're very welcome!
Thanks so much you helped me understand a lot more about how to allocate my points. I am level 403 but you made me put those points right. Also great video, excellent content and THANKS🙏⚔⚔🙏
Make sure to use more FTH than what I mentioned. With your High RL you'll want 80+ FTH that scales best with your Seal for Black flame blade and lightning armament. This video was my first of many for Elden Ring and my recommendations for Faith requirements were incorrect.
@@oxfordking thanks very much I appreciate your help and getting back to me
Amazing guide, very detailed and for various levels builds.
To make it even better i think using electrify armament instead of vyke dragonbolt is better, because it gives the same power and lasts 20 sec more(90 instead of 70).
The body enhancement of vyke dragonbolt is only maximum equip load.
And with that u can add a body spell of choice.
Hopping for more guides like this!!!
Great extra tips you added here! Thank you!
I'll be playing FFXIV Dawntrail soon so the guides will be mixed between Elden Ring DLC and FFXIV
I'm still on my first playthrough of ER: DLC
Cheers!
I use almost the exact same build but I use vyke's dragonbolt to lower my equip load so I can light roll while also having decent armor
Nice yeah I need to make another backhand blade build soon. My dual milady build I just released has been great
@@oxfordking Yes! I actually watched that today. The build looks fun as hell!
Really love the depth you go to be thorough and help anyone with questions.
I think. Dexterity-knoy crystal tear , and opaline hardtear
Appreciate that, thanks
Would you recommend flame grant me strength with this build?
100% Yes and I guess I forgot to even mention that during all of the editing.
I get more damage with these if I use flame art infusion or Holy since I'm a Dex/Faith user, you actually get less damage if you just use Keen to get to S Scaling
@@wodensthrone5215 you also can't use incantation weapon buffs if you do that though
@benjaminking6949 its worth it still, having an S Scaling in dex will only get you so far and theres plenty of incantations to increase fire affinity and physical damage
@@wodensthrone5215 can you give a few options for incantations you recommend?
How do i get it to s scaling in dex ?
@@yuvashankarkj1565 keen infusion
I came looking for just a backhand blade guide and you just happen to cover the whole build I’m trying to make! Thank you!
Oh nice! One thing I would change here is the Lightning - use the normal Lightning Armament instead of Vyke's. It does the same damage, lasts longer and it doesn't have the Negative effects of the Lightning Defense Degradation that Vyke's has. Other than that, very fun build. Very versatile.
I fought 2 invaders with them and they hurt lol. I won but barely.
2 Invaders at the same time with these? Or 2 separate encounters? Also did they apply any Buffs on their weapons?
I think just bleed but the weapon art hit hard and faster than i could overpower. Once up close you cant really beat it without outplaying it.
The weapon buff incantations scale based on faith, so bloodflame or vyke's are useless with 12. You can see the elemental damage numbers on your equipment page.
It's also increased by the faith scaling of your seal. I.e. the letter by faith, not the incant scaling.
Anybody has been using this build with an emphasis on sprint attacks? What is the optimal combo you're using?
Gotta try swift slash on this build w shard of alexander
So during my playthrough, I don't ever look up guides - I just play blindly - so I missed Swift Slash and Helped Leda instead. I won't have that "broken" build until my next playthrough.
What armor are you running with the Iron Kasa? It looks super clean.
Fire Knight Set - drops from Shadow Keep Storehouse
How is your weapons emitting Lightning? Do you coat them all the time?
Incantation
The weapon definitely has I-frames. At the start of the consort Radahn fight, when he charges up and then spins quickly towards you, I use the AoW to dodge everything. The shockwave, the initial hit, it dodges everything and there’s no way it can’t unless it has I-frames
Cool I always get hit no matter what. Could never get the s to work. Good to here it works though
@@oxfordking when I'm using it I treat it like a medium load roll that covers more ground and deals good damage as a bonus. It's a very useful tool if a regular roll won't quite do what you need in a specific circumstance
I replaced the blind spot ash of war with the swift slash ash of war and now it is the most Deadly weapon in my Arsenal.
Yeah I don't watch guides or read about the game on Reddit etc - I play blind (more fun for me) so I knew nothing of Swift Slash at the time of recording this. I also chose to assist Leda and got the other Weapon / Ash of War instead. I can't get that AoW until another playthrough.
Hey, amazing guide ! How can I change affinity without changing the ash of war? :O
Great Question: The Ash of War and the Affinity share synergy meaning you would need to select an Ash of War first and them the Affinity that Ash of War supports.
Electrify armament is better than Vykes dragonbolt. It has 50% base more duration with the same damage.
Already updated that in my Pinned Comment but thanks! The RED is just pure Cool Factor.
@@oxfordking my first playthrough of the dlc was your build and man are those blades fun to use.
I always forget about Vykes spell. The backhand blade and the martial arts are my favorite weapons in the DLC. They are just fun to use. I always loved the Bandits' Curved Swords but they really struggled vs shields, the skill on the backhand blade's poke opens them up to be shredded.
So I wish I played around with the other Lightning Armament before I hit record and spent Hours editing this video... The Lightning Armament is actually the better option - it lasts 20 seconds longer and does the same damage. Not to mention we don't take a hit on Lightning Res. Big miss on my part... BUT the Red Lightning is 100% Cool Factor.
How do you have 2 when you only have 1 equipped because when I equip it I only have one in my hand and the other on the side
Of my body please help
You'll need to press the two buttons that hold a weapon with two hands. R1 (RB) and whatever button you have assigned to collecting loot.
yo bro great vid! do you have a widescreen mod or something for elden ring? i have a widescreen but havent tried anything of that sort yet?
Yeah here is my UW tutorial for Shadow of the Erdtree: ruclips.net/video/0jVX7wh-7UA/видео.html
I have been using these with a cold affinity. It gets a b in dex and in int. Does frostbite very quickly. What do you think of that?
Yeah its great just make note that once Frostbite is applied you really have nothing left for that proc unless you add Fire to the enemy which will reset the Frostbite. Personally I like using 2 Scavengers Curved Swords with Cold in one hand and Bleed in the other for 2 Burst Procs. But I like the moveset and the quickness of the Backhand Blades.
How is it that when all your stats are added together, you should be level 382 not 303?
Starting Class stats plays a factor - I think this was Samurai starting class but not sure.
is it worth it if i play with bleed Backhand blade not the keen one?
I have a video on that very topic I'm working on right now that will be on the channel today..
Oh Yeah!
Yup!
I have not beaten the base game and RL 201 shit i have no life
All good Brotha - we're all in this shit together
loving the build ty
Anytime - I'm still playing the game with this one - I'll try to get some other builds up on the channel soon. I also play FFXIV Online and the Expansion hits this Friday so I'll pause to check that out for a bit. ER and FFXIV videos coming soon.
If you dual wield these, essentially the same as two handing them but with the added benefit of having a cold and a hot blade. Or am I wrong?
It acts as a single weapon so when you cast a buff on it, it gets applied to both blades as it's classified as a pair (one weapon)
You could do that if you have two pairs of them. I've seen build guides with similar setups.
How do u dual wield from the right slot
The same way you Hold a Weapon with Two Hands - Press the Button you Pick up Items with, Hold it, and then press R1 (RB) or R2 (RT)
tip of the fedora m'lady
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You can still use 2 element on 2 different swords
With 2 Different Backhand Blades, yes. This is showcasing just one set. I'll probably do a video on a two set Backhand blade Build later.
How your weapeon S scaling with dex? Mine is just C.
Make them Keen Backhand Blades rather than the default
@@oxfordking how
so random question, When you two hand the backhand blade does the two handed talisman from dlc still give a buff or is that only for big weapons like great katana and so on?.
That talisman is used for the larger two handed weapons
@@oxfordking alright thank you
WHAT BUTTON DO I PRESS TO DUAL WEILD THEM
@@parkerbrown8220 press y then right bumper
Which ever button you have assigned to picking up items + R1 (RB) or R2 (RT)
Triangle + R1 of using a PS controller
Y + RB if using Xbox controller.
How do you get that helmet so cool
Blackgoal Knight Boss at the start of the DLC - West area.
@@oxfordking He might be refering the the Iron Kasa?
Is this good with cold?
It can't use Chilling Mist Ash of War but you can definitely infuse Cold on it for sure. It will proc Frost very quickly.
I cant use vyke bolt with my backhand blade im one handing it and all ????
@@evgzz4653 I think you get to give them the keen affinity to be about to apply it to them
You can't have an affinity on the blades already. If you have it bleed, fire, magic cold or something then you can't buff it.
It has to be heavy, keen quality or standard. (Maybe occult. I haven't tried actually)
Will it be any good in a str build??
I haven't tried - maybe someone will read this and comment on it but I always went Keen with this weapon.
how do you get the incantation on both weapons?
The Backhand Blade comes as 1 Set rather than two individual weapons. Any Sorcery or Incantations applied will apply to both Blades.
why i cant use vyke's dragonbolt or bloodflame blade on Backhand Blade?
You most likely have a Weapon Affinity on it that will not allow Incantations. Double check your Weapon Affinity. In this video, I have Keen which allows for Spell Buffs.
For some reason it won't let me cast the spells even though I do have the requirements. Am I doing something wrong?
You can only put spells on weapon if the weapon is standard heavy keen or quality
@@tonzzaboi2739 I'm just dumb, I had it on blood affinity, now it's keen and it's working
how do i equip it in both hands? please help im getting literally mad at that
@@andreaurso8499 did you figure it out? If you’re on controller you hold Y/or triangle and click your right bumper.
Did you figure it out? If you’re on controller you hold Y/triangle and click right bumper.
How do you get the red lightning on swords?
It’s an incantation called blood flame blade
It's an Incantation called Vyke's Dragonbolt (Red Lightning)
The other one I'm using in this video is Blood Flame Blade.
great video!!!!
Thanks!
My Dex scale is C not S ?
Turn the Weapon to a Keen Scaling - you will then have S Scaling
So many wasted stats on mind and endurance at lvl 150
Subjective
How did you get two of the swords??
one weapon act like two seperate weapon. you only need one
@@kadirbariskose I can’t put the blade in both of my hands. Tell me how pls😭
@@morolul8519 same way as switch between one and two hand
i just hope this build will kill DLC radahn..........i hate my thorn build goes right tho DLC Radahn n not dmg him.........also can this build kill the fire golems??
This build is viable with all content - this is why I switch between bloodflame blade and Lightning so that you can take on all enemy types in the game. For Furnace Golems you will use the Lightning Armament - this staggers them much quicker.
@@oxfordking ok thx
@oxfordking also I'm at lvl 280 how should I build it so I can 100% kill radahn n maybe even the dragon boss thx......cause right now I'm pretty much playing other games cause I can't beat radahn 😑😑😑😑😑
@@wishlistdestoroyah8245 I had to respec my build and build blood backhandblades to beat radahn. The bleed melts him.
@@johntomaro7202 i finally killed him a few day ago......i also killed all fire golems........i was wondering how do i restart the DLC????
How are you playing widescreen
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Use swift slash on it. It’s amazing. Just stamina consuming as well
With bleed
Yeah that animation lock though is brutal
How do you have keen affinity without changing the aow?
@@Zeno3020 since it’s a smithing stone weapon you can basically change the aow with the same aow just go to any grace or smithy and hit aow and click backhand then click the affinity you want
viable against final boss?
I killed the final boss using only these weapons. Blinspot is broken against him. Try using it against his opening attack once and you will never look back. It feel so satisfying
I don’t think anything is very good against him like people are already saying he might be the hardest boss in any FromSoft game
@@fredrick-jr1qi using a shield makes him soldier of godrick lvl difficult
Why not Shard of Alexander ?
I mentioned why I didn't in the video 👍 and also why you can use it.
You don't really use the skill for attacking as much as dodging and poking so I would use Millicent's Prosthesis or something else to improve the damage of the main attacks or for defense.
Sorry, but 99 points putting into vigor is absolutely useless. Did you read about attributes caps?
Subjective - at 307 its fine - you need to relax
@@oxfordking >Its not subjective. You have brainrot.
why are u scare of using faith spells
@@dakotaseidel23 cause most of bosses are immune to holy damage
@@godskinryoshi1280that is bullshit
Who builds for level 300? Lol
I do bitch Lol