Ranking the Water Starters Weakest to Strongest
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2023
- Ranking the Water Starters Weakest to Strongest
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The Samurott glow up is insane.
If we’re gonna be completely honest, the water starters, none of them actually suck. They’re usually the second best option if not the best option for each region.
I normally use the water starters because they tend to be the most practical option throughout an endgame play through
except in paldeaa
@@praggodey I used that starter and I never had a problem with it throughout the entire game?
@@eternalgamer2521 all gen 9 starters are good in paldea. It's just that the other 2 are better
@@eternalgamer2521 That except was not referring to the suck part of the comment
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I’m sorry Mystic, but no freaking way should Primarina be that low on this list. For one, Water/Fairy is a great defensive typing that can also hit really hard. It only has three weaknesses in Grass, Electric and Poison and the only one it has no coverage for is electric. Ice Beam takes care of Grass and Psychic easily takes cares of Poison. Sparkling Aria or Scald are great Water STAB moves and I don’t really need to say anything about Moonblast. And as you mentioned the unpredictability of its held item, of which Primarina can use quite a few, makes it really tricky to game plan for.
Agree. I'd much rather use Primarina than Feraligatr or Blastoise.
Its also like competively a very consistent defensive pokemon in the 2 generations of UU its been in
It's probably low because you can easily take advantage of its low speed and defense. A good physical electric type can give it problems.
I could see Primarina being really good in UU with Tera Ground holding Choice Specs or Choice Scarf.
@@oliverorchard6774 Tera Blast Ground is going to make Primarina a menace.
Swampert and Primarina are my definitive favorites! Great to use with amazing typings! Not to mention the OP designs!
Primarina being that low baffles me. With the right stats, moves and items it can be one of the strongest water types ever.
Swampert is better than Greninja in terms of taking hits and solo running it’s home region.
This is more competitive than just going through their own game. Swampert is good, but Greninja's better in the competitive scene.
@@KuroJOkamitrue, but Popeye (my Swampert) is still number 1 in my heart. Plus, I prefer starter Pokémon that are built like physical tanks.
Primarina has 1 negative matchup, and 1 neutral matchup in her whole game, everything else is positive
@@adamthespinygiantthat is such a cute name ❤😭
@@juniperjahir38thank you. I named him Popeye because Swampert is my favorite Pokémon and Popeye is my favorite cartoon character. Plus, they both have something to do with water and are physical units. It was destiny.
*apologizes for bad take in the grass type video*
*Immediately has another bad take for water types*
How is Primarina that low? Or even "debatable" with Inteleon?
I’m confused as to why Primarina is so low, because isn’t it the best water starter in competitive battle? It’s typing really helps it and it seems to be the only water starter that I can think of that I constantly see in competitive play.
The best competetiv water types are swampert and greninja, but Primarina is definatly the 3rd best water starter.
Exactly! Plus, the assessment criteria are ambiguous here. Best starters at what? Competitive singles? VGC? Casual playthroughs? Primarina is one of the best water starters.
@@benjomc aside from Greninja
It's blastoise ( including mega and dynamax)
I know people may have mentioned it already, but Primarina does not deserve to be that low. Its Water/Fairy typing alone bumps it up quite a bit, and it's capable of being surprisingly flexible in terms of game plan. Assault Vest with coverage and Leftovers with Substitute/Calm Mind are two great examples right there.
But hey, I am happy that Quaquaval and Hisuian Samurott are as high as they are.
Primarina is the best starter. Change my mind
Primarina made the dragon trial a joke in sun and moon
@@Lightdragon773Swampert made his whole region a walk in the park
@@adamthespinygiantthat was the same for Primarina, especially for the Ultra games where it got access to a fairy and ice type move before Popplio evolved into Brionne
@@adamthespinygiantThe same can be said for Primarina.
Mystic has really been doing a quantity over quality method with his videos over the years
Why do you feel the need to be an asshole?
Primarina is amazing. Assault vest, modest nature, max special stats and 4 attacking moves. Only thing im not a fan of is its hidden ability.
Primarina’s hidden ability with Hyper Voice, in the rain with Choice specs is incredibly power I will say that
@@juniperjahir38 Scald and Hydro Pump are better than Water type Hyper Voice. Sucks Primarina doesn't get Boomburst.
@@termitesc.aardwolf3644 real
@@juniperjahir38it's the same strength as surf and it doesn't have any added effects. Surf hits dive users and hits all opposing mons, scald can burn despite being weaker and hydro pump is just stronger. Liquid voice does not buff the power of sound based Moves
@@SochimaOkwara Oh my bad, I thought it was the same as Aurorus Refrigerate ability that boost normal type moves by 20% and obtains stab
Need that Let’s go starter video!!! 🔥🔥
Primarina would definitely be higher than feraligatr or blastoise.
A lil sad primarina is so low on the list, I'd say what holds it back is it's speed stat, bcuz it does get access to reliable recovery in the form of life dew and if in DLC2 they give it access to psychic noise, I'd prob put it up there at like number 5 at the very least, me personally tbh. But like I said when it comes to water starters I understand why its low on the list.
You'd think its excellent typing would raise it higher
Keep up the awesome work and videos love the video
Keeping it up w the good content!!❤
1)Swampert
2)Greninja
3) H-Samurott
The Rest is Debatable in either place you put them...
P.S. Stop Bullying Quaquaval...He was "Born this way" and its an amazing PKMN!!!
Greninja is the only water starter too reach Uber tier
@@Libra-_-mega blastoise did too. And correct me if I'm wrong but I think only Ash gren made it. Idk if protean did or not
Can’t wait to see those comp team videos you just promised me next year
I’m holding you to your word sir
Primarina should be much higher and Blastoise should be lower
Finally empoleon getting some love and not at the bottom of someone list of best water starters my favorite water starter up there with swampert and Blastoise
Primarina is a Dragon Slaying Mermaid 🧜♀️ That Sparkling Aria Move also helps you beat the game.. you must’ve put him this low cuz you dont like the design cuz this is a strong mon
❤it when you mentioned Nidoking in the Feraligatr segment Mystic, the former being my favorite from Gen 1 and the latter being my favorite final evolution of a starter Pokémon I chose out of the Gen 2 trio.
Swampert will always be my favourite starter. 3rd favorite pokemon overall. It may not be the strongest on this list but I just love ground being it's second type. Sweeping through the electric gym with your water starter in the gen 3 games just felt amazing 😂 great video man!
I actually like to believe that none of the water starters are honestly bad, but are instead just at times (depending on the generation) outclassed by other water type options.
Ok now THIS tier list more respectable. I mean you could have put Primarnia a bit higher but other than that, a way more solid list.
Accountability is a fudgin asset dude, as an enjoyer of your content I appreciate this
Intellion also got nerfed in s/v. It lost access to focus energy
Focus energy Inteleon and 100% crit chance snipe shot was my favorite build in Sword 🙏
I didn’t even noticed that setup Gen 8😂
I had:
Timid, torrent, weakness policy
gmax snipe shot
Dark pulse
Ice beam
Air slash.
I was 0-3 some games.
@MysticUmbreon, would you do a video on what you would do to to improve starters? Such as adding a secondary type to mono types (Excluding regional forms) and changing Stats, Movesets Abilities, Hell even Mega Evolutions! Would love to see your take!
I’m glad to see despite some big ass nerfs, Greninja is still part of the higher tiers.
Swampert for me will always be #1. Also I feel like if Empoleon were introduced in gen 6 along with the Fairy typing. I think we'd be having a different conversation about it potentially. Considering it's dual typing in gen 4 are literally super effective against the same things 🤣
First, I'm not so sure megas and G-max forms and such should be considered in these as not all have one, and they aren't usable in all the games. So, in Scarlet/Violet, once all the starters are available with this next expansion, those extra forms are non-existent.
Second, just for Primarina! It should be much higher, if not in the top 3.
I don't see how Predictability could be an issue. The enemy ai in Pokemon has never been that advanced.
Okay no, Primaria is far better than a number 8, what the heck dude? It should be 4 at least for being a water fairy type and how it is amazing for gen 7 and would be amazing in literally any other game, yes its slow but it still strong as hell!
Primarina with a stronger dual type under Blastoise 🫠
competetively speaking primarina is even considered better than gatr empoleon and swampert no mega since its introduction
And blastoise is pretty overrated it is probably the 3th weakest considering how mid it is excluding mega not even shell smash helped it to leave NU when primarina ended up top tier UU in Gen 8
Exactly my thoughts. No way is Primarina AND Feraligatr below Blastoise. That thing was NUBL in Gen 8, whereas the other two were UU back in Gen 7, Primarina being UU in Gen 8 as well, higher than Blastoise. Your point with Swampert is debatable. It was just like Primarina in Gen 8 UU, but has the advantage of having a longer competetive history. Primarina on the other hand had better viability in Gen 8 UU, being A+ Rank compared to Swamperts B Rank. I think they are comparable in terms of placing.
Yeah, gonna echo what a lot of people are saying despite being a broken record at this rate- Primarina being this low is a crime.
Primarina being that low is criminal.
cant believe you did my favorite water starter samurott like that
Hey Mystic I know you're a busy man, but are we going to get a best team for US/UM No restrictions?
I can see the reasonings for the placements.
I’m curious @Mysticumbreon, have you played comp with these Pokémon?
I had a lot of success with Inteleon in Gen 8 as a fast sweeper and it was soloing singles (for me ) in the official format. But as stated I can see the reasoning
I like H Samurott, it’s design has grown on me quite a bit
The Hisui starters have solid designs
One of the few trios I really liked
@@InsaneGarrison25 that’s true I agree with that. If we had samurott w ceaseless edge from radical red, I bet it would be #1
Aye man, way to own it...youtubers refuse to admit their wrong alot...I can respect you more for that yo
12:20 still to this day I have yet to understand gamefreak's decision of allowing Swarmpert to have the highest stats (535) amongst the starters, especially the starters from Gen 3.
Primarina being so low is baffling. Its been UU since its inception and actually became an OU mainstay this gen.
You got 1,000. I patiently await
Just put Primarina and Feraligatr higher than Blastoise, the rest of the list is good
Blastoise will always be a favorite cause of its abundance of coverage and his defenses aren't too bad
I always prefer to use Squirtle in the original gen 1 games, if only because I feel better with it than bulbasaur who takes a while to get off the ground
Let's go! 🎉
Primarina with fantastic typing and Quaquaval with free dragon dance on kos should be higher on this list imo
Might as well put Meganium at the top of this list as well since it’s just as devoid of reasoning as the grass list.
What.... Primarina is questionably higher than inteleon? I think primarina is hands down better than it even without gmax forms cause it has a better type combo, better spread of moves, and better stats (also semi saying my preference here) hell primarina may also end up working in tr which could potentialy uproot everything that's strong or weak
Yea but still an f tier starter along with Quaquaval man after greninja water starters haven’t hit
@AMVHighUniversity uhh.... really? I think hisuian samurot and quaquaval r both better than that frog ninja hybrid. The only reasons why it's debatable at all is due to ash greninja, and it's actually ha instead of the gift ha both being that stupid strong
@@WeebGuru6Ain’t no way you said that 💀
@@blazesona12 oh no hisuain Samurot is every else garbage greninja was better eve before ash greninja granted there was no competition with the other kalos starters also i would never ever use primarina or quackevlle u will never see me use these mon ill use intellion
@@blazesona12 that because he lost bond phenomenon and got nerfed but still terrastile poison works for my boy
g-max blastoys was amazing in doubles.
great support and i got me a few games.
priety impressive with a wacan berry, witch it needed vs zapdos and regieleci. or it be a one shot vs those 2 powerhouses.
icy wind, hydro pump, helping hand and protect.
can't wait to use him again in the next S&V dlc with zapdos as a partner.
zaspdos, blastoise, T-landorus, incinaroar, rilleboom not sure about the last slot atm.
i would put primarina in 6 place instead of blastoise
Gutted that Blastoise and Feraligatr didn’t make the top 5
Do top 10 strongest in game trainers !!
It had to be rough ranking the water ones because they primarily are usually the best/second best for their generation.
😂 5:08
Too soon my guy. Too soon
Wish they'd give the mega abilities to the base pokemon like blazeakin if we aren't ever getting the megas again.
All the starters could benefit from this
@@JA-js8uk feels you didn't read the entire thing and just saw blazeakin and went red.
Not gonna even try to explain things. You gotta learn to read and understand
It’s kinda funny you mention blaziken as your example cause isn’t the hidden ability speed boost?
I really like Primarinas typing, especially for in game. But I think my favorite overall is Empoleon
nooo! samurott is my favorite starter! (at least Hisuian Samurott did really well!)
Can u Do another video about the other starters like pikachu , partner pikachu & Eevee ( like how those starters work in let’s go games and how they are straight up immortal in some battles) and make another video ranking them all in a tier list based on on who would destroy who in a 1v1 bracket or some.
Glad my boi Greninja made the number one spot, but seriously, primarina should be top 5 at least
She got put too low
Video suggestion how to make certain starters good
You know that the water type starters are pretty solid when regular Samurott is the worst one. It’s just terrible and can be used quite well albeit with difficulty so yeah
Og Samurott is kind of sad. The other two Unova starters' saving graces were in their hidden abilities. But Samurott was out of luck there too.
It's such a shame Ash-Greninja no longer exists. Please bring it back in X and Y remakes Game Freak please? Or at least do Mega Greninja and base its design of Ash-Greninja
I honestly wish the writers never went down that road. Considering all the trouble and effort they went through and it didn't pay off when it mattered, granted I feel the only reason they did...was because they probably felt hand tied since Greninja was also insanely popular, and if they had given Ash a mega whoever it was would've overshadowed Greninja...but even so, looking back I would've prefered an actual mega to what we ended up getting.
weakness policy primarina could solo this whole list - energy ball, dazzling gleam, blizzard, and hydro pump… primarina was done dirty in this video
I would say
1 - Greninja
2 - Swampert
3 - H Samurott
4 - Empoleon
5 - Primarina
6 - Blastoise
7 - Quaquaval
8 - Feraligatr
9 - Inteleon
10 - Samurott
Empoleon cot a Competitive boost in the 9th generation... by getting Competitive as it's HA instead of Defiant! Now you can Switch into an Intimidate foe, and get a boost to its stronger attacking stat!
Feraligator now compared to its debut is much better.
If we had all that we have now for gen II, this is my personal opinion for Feraligator:
Strongjaw as the ability, since it can learn Crunch and Ice Fang.
One could also give it a mega that is Water/Dark or Water/Dragon.
Water/Dark + Strong Jaw is literally just a Mega Sharpedo reskin
Water/Dragon with a new Dragon biting move would be great tho
How does Eq not effect toxapex and tentacruel
Other than speed, I think you misjudged my favorite Idol Pokémon.
Also, honestly curious about your opinions on Pikachu and Eevee from Let’s Go.
I actually really like Meganium, I’m using one currently in my HG run and it’s a pretty good tank. Probably my second or third favorite grass starter
Unfortunately it can't be a good tank to its poor typing with weaknesses everywhere.
@@TundraRage maybe so, but it’s done well for me to this point
Bruh, G-Max Inteleon has the High Ground! Don’t disrespect it!
bro make next video about Top 10 Pokemon that deserve an evolution in the next generation.
Pinsir, Heracross, Drampa, Cacturne, Hypno, Golduck, Grafaiai, Muk, Weavile, Sandaconda, Scovillain, Breloom, Absol, Audino, Banette, Sunflora, Carnivine, Zangoose/Seviper, Kangaskhan and many more are just a few who could benefit from an evolution.
You should do an updated ALL REGION best team.
I'm calling it, Swampert is number 1
Edit: HOW THE ACTUAL F*** IS SWAMPERT NUMBER 3 (although I love Greninja more)
Samurott is the Daniel meme where Hisuian is the cooler Daniel
Ah yes Hisuian Samurott's Cealess Edge and Kleavor's Stone Axe combo. No Pokemon is coming in battle with HP more than half.
Water starter idea:
Astronaut Tardigrade
Type: water/bug (has type combination throughout all evolutions)
Other Sci-Fi theme starters are:
Moss cyborg Japanese chin dog
Grass/steel as final evolution
And
Laser red panda
Fire/psychic as final evolution
What did they do Samurott?
Medicority of Blastoise will always be sad
Yeah I'm kinda similiar
The games are full of so many good water types, I rarely pick water starters
Facts greninja is my favorite and best water type starter
I'd love an upgraded fregator
Best Water starters for gen 9: Swampert, Primarina, H. Samurott, Blastoise, Empoleon, Greninja, Quaquaval, Feraligatr, Intelleon, Samurott.
So is Quaquaval Josuke now?
Inteleon big stoobid move that hits really hard = bad?
I’ll admit, Inteleon w/ Sniper ability & Scope Lens is gimmicky, no mistake. I mean, even if you use a critical-rate boosted move like Snipe Shot, with Scope Lens, in the current generation, that’s a 50% chance of a critical hit with Sniper boosted damage. However, I don’t deny that this is still pretty good gimmick.
I even made it work with my Ariados, who is a bad Pokémon, no doubt, but I love Gen 2 Pokémon, or ones who evolve from them or regional variants of them. A Poison Tera-type, Cross Poison, Sniper, Scope Lens, Adamant Ariados was able to take down a 5-star Fairy Tera-Type Armarouge in a Tera Raid in only a few hits, with no knockouts. Competitive? It’ll never work. Gimmicky in a Tera Raid? Yep, and it works!
I think I was the 1000th like (without even listening to the stip….)…..sorry Mystic?
Imagine h-Samurott had its sp atk swaped with sp. Def..
This take on Primarina is worse than your last one but it’s your opinion.
Design wise Meganium is my favorite grass starter
Gator and primarina should be higher.
Grinja should be lower since the nerf of protean and lost of bonds.
Feraligatr will always be my boy.
Can you please make a Pokémon xenovers best team there’s not a single one on RUclips please make one
How to fix normal Samurott? Give him Shell Smash and Flip Turn. The Hisuian form is nice but it noves he really should've gotten.
Ironically, the Unovan Samurott has better defensive stats than it’s Hisuian counterpart
@adamthespinygiant it's defenses are not enough in most cases, and doesn't have many ways to utilize it
@@Lightdragon773oh well. I guess I’m one of the few that prefer Jack (Unovan Samurott) over Aku (Hisuian Samurott)
Replace Shell Armor with Supreme Overlord as well. Kingambit's ability was tailor made for it
so does the opening of this video mean your going to redo the grass video?
Yeah poor Samurott, the Hisui version is just so much better, better looking, better ability, and typing on par with the front runner of this list.
Feraligatr shouldnt be this low... its def top 5