Glimpses of Life Among the Catawba and Cherokee Indians of the Carolinas (1927)
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Title cards are off-center (parallax problems at time of filming)Note that reel two with the Cherokee is not in this transfer.
United States -- North and South Carolina.
Notes from From Wes Taukchiray report to the Smithsonian in 1974/5 -
Children line up to go into school building, snowball fight. Sam Blue and another Catawba man doing the bear dance. Another dance called the wild goose chase. Bow and arrow. Rabbit hopping away.
Long close-up of Elsie Blue (Youngest daughter of Chief Sam Blue).
Close up of Bertha George Harris and Evelyn Brown.
Snowballs. More close-ups -- Vera Blue and girl, Elsie Blue again, Sam Blue's wife Louisa Blue.
Sam Blue and his half-sister Sally Gordon (the last two speakers of the Catawba language at that time).
Sam Blue and a Mormon elder in front of house.
Edith Brown and Evelyn Brown.
Man with blowgun. D.A. Harris.
Joe Sanders; with a blowgun; he goes up a hill.
Blowing medicine through a cane blowgun onto a little girl.
Edith Brown making pottery (all the steps), a hog comes up and sniffs around. She has a couple of very large amphora vases. Joe Sanders pounding clay with a pestle.
Provided by Brent Burgin, Archivist, USC Lancaster -
Samuel Taylor Blue (1872-1959)
Elsie Blue George (1914 -)
Bertha George Harris (1913-)
Evelyn Brown George (1914-2007) We also interviewed her shortly before her death.
Vera Blue Sanders (1901-1981)
Louisa Canty Blue (1883-1963)
Sallie Brown Gordon (1875-1952)
Edith Harris Brown (1893-1985)
David Adam "Toad" Harris (1872-1930)
Joseph Sanders (1892-1938)
I cried... I saw the faces of My Great Grandma, Great Grandpa and 3 of their children...
Amazing Grace 🙏🏾 Was Lost now Found 🕯️
Thank you for this Gem 💎
Many should read more on the Catawba, Cherokee and others I'm the Carolinas, they find a rich history of a great people
My fathers family go back to the 1300's. Trying to get that information.
Michael Tester I live in North Carolina in lumberton I’m black and native
Now try to find our history without the involvement of white people or black people. Just native people. Bet ya cant. Better yet go to a reservation. Just dont talk about us like we are past tense and taken away from our cultures .
That's why many of us are mixed white white or black or whatever.
Best film on us was filmed back during my grandads era when people were more pure than they are even now. Now we get broken into blood quantum like livestock. We dont get a month. Or even a lives matter campaign. And our elders keep getting killed in hospice for the government to take their land.
We are still here. Our nightmare has never ended.
I just found out my great grandmother was a Catawba Indian and I’m here now Finally happy to be able to search my roots but idk where to start . These comments are great though lol
I live in Caldwell Co, the last known Cherokee area for where I live and the removal of my ancestors just before, during and after the Civil War was awful, my 3rd Grt Grndma survived this journey with the help of two daughter's and a backboard wagon, then came back here to live out the rest of her days before she died , to be buried on the land which she was born on.
People don’t realize for most of them to survive was to wed into Europeans. My great great great grandmother on my mother’s side had to do this to survive.
She married a German. There was no tribe. You as a native were either wiped away or changed to survive. Top saddest and darkest moments in our county’s history.... treatment of the Native Americans.
Mine mixed with scottish
True found a picture of someone in my family who was dark as sin
Hey Cody, your story sounds similar to mine.
My grand mother on my mamas side was born in 1902, and her sister married a german named Shoemaker from georgia. Well she, the sister had a baby (Ruth) and died giving birth , so my GM stepped up and married her sister's husband to care for the baby.
My cherokee GM was. Davis bf she married the German man Luther Shoemaker. Her name was
odley enough, Stella Estelle Davis, sounds Italian to me. Maybe her mama named her that to keep her safe!
Some of my family left NC/SC/Virginia to Ohio to escape being displaced, Catawba of Carrs Run and The Saponi of Ohio.
Treatment of anyone who was not White STILL, is the saddest and darkest moments of our country’s present, and history.
My family on two sides came from the Catawbas in SC. York County to be exact. While we are majority African we also share Catawba bloodline as Catawbas were known to be African Hunters who were involved in enslaving as well. We have been along the Broad River in Chester, SC for over 200 hundred years. So yes real Catawbas are still alive.
Templeton Maestro My family is from Catawba and are part Catawba SHAMEFUL my land has been in my family for so long and I can't get tribal recognition.
Templeton Maestro how are you African?
Templeton Maestro hi how can one search to see if they are apart of the indigenous tribes of the carolina's? Census records??
How could Catawba be African hunters in America?
Original Indians were black. Don't let the colonizers fool you.
I'm thinking, " these American Indians here in this video.....were NOT dragged off in Winter to suffer greatly when so many others walked , crawled...on The Horrendous Trail of Tears. Over 4, 000 died on the way to Oklahoma. A MUST to learn the Truth of this DARK/ SAD event in american history.
The Indians that stayed did so to survive. We were Young Chicken of the Bird Clan and we stayed. My grandparents were sent to re-education schools but still upheld our oral history and with the inception of the internet were able to prove it to the letter, down to our name. Staying behind meant generations of abuse and hiding. My family was torn apart by choosing to die on their land or be given land somewhere west they didn't know about.
@@imdifferentMr843 Why would you say something so cruel? That's what they want. That's how we get erased.
These are all $5 Indians all foreigners placed there to take away the identity of the real indigenous people of this republic whom the pale face re named African American or black
💯💯😉🪶🪶💪🏾
That is what matters...regardless coloration...a nation of people suffered and suffers today STILL...While complicit government endorsed imposters benefits!!
I'm not mad at them for government betrayals, lies, deception and reneiging on supposedly honor bound treaties!!
Look at the American states now....homelessness everywhere and people living/surviving in their commercial rental storage units!!
All while they're buying children...
😤
stop it with those 5 dolla indians from siberia who came thru the back door of the of asia to canada
Thay can be real. There were more than blacks here.
They simply are not Israelites
Canaanites dwelt in the tents of Shem.
Not all native Americans are Hebrew
I feel you
But they are pawns in the game
Pale face will always put them forward
Easier than publishing that America
Was stolen from Blacks & Mexicans
Couldn’t continue to hold the nation together
From the Catawba tribe Cheraw to be exact….Chesterfield County SC my fathers mother family …I today know who I am! My people were legends and today we are the only recognized tribes of the Carolinas with reserved land from my ancestors!!
Do you know who was the wife of King Hagler?
I’m from Catawba county and I want to find my tribe and ppl
@@zinnia20207 Lucielle A Tsali Cherokee Indian…..
He had all daughters and women can’t carry a legacy on because their children take on the fathers tribe and she takes on her husbands.
@@thekidjahmez9448 I went to ancestry and just traced my fathers, father, fathers, father…lol sound like I’m saying “farther” but the irony of it all is the farther you can trace back the easier it is. I found my people because my Dad side never left Union County NC so really I’m 100% waxhaw (wisacky) aka “Flatheads”. A lot of my people died from smallpox and other plagues so we are known today as the Catawba tribe. My fathers mother family were cheraw Indians which is also an extinct tribe that joined the Catawba tribe also. So I’m definitely apart of Catawba and I will be going to the south soon to get my reserved land.
*You won’t get it in a day and your ancestors won’t reveal themselves to you if you don’t take them seriously…it takes a determined mindset of connecting people to areas. Why are areas so important you might ask? Because what money means to us now land meant to us then ….we didn’t leave our land for nothing because we had gold mines and resources that would often lead to wars…we were always in protection mode against other tribes and didn’t just wander into areas that weren’t ours because we could easily die by other tribes.
we didn’t have to go anywhere we were master builders. So if you can trace back to the 1800s-1900s and see what county your people were in…each place you know as a “county” was once just simply a place where tribes were living in ….
This journey is amazing but it takes time. I’m still learning new stuff about my tribe everyday.
I have photos of my ancestors. 12:02 marks the same of 4 photos while fishing pass down for generations. We know who We are!
Yup!
They are not Indians lol
the real ancestors
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@@aborigineone2377 that's rich coming from you. We determine who is and who is not. DNA destroys your argument anyway
🎤 drop!
Their life was harder in those days but they seemed happy
SADDLTRAMP Keith That’s why there was more appreciation for everything.
That’s why there was more appreciation for everything.
I think it's sick and sad the white man made them wear white men's clothes why in the hell couldn't they wear their own clothes? I am starting to think last of the white man in this instance.
@@imdifferentMr843 no "everyone " doesn't know or believe this. DNA destroys your attempt at revisionist history. The tribes themselves laugh at this. Native Americans determine who is Native and who is not.
We are copper and all shades
indeed!!! Definitely propaganda. This video makes nonsense at all😂@@imdifferentMr843
And made them speak their language and practice their religion. How dare the Mormons!
Thank you!!!
None of you know anything on us. We arent all copper colored. We also arent of African descent. More of an olive reddish tint. Stop believing the lies people say to you about the cherokee people please. Close those textbooks too. Its toxic. Some of us got European features bc of the mixing of white. Columbus got to the Taino and enslaved them with the Seminole. And we had DeSoto who did the same thing.
Thank u for saying that
@@aidensanders2534 No problem I'm just so sick and tired of these baseless lies. Stupid! We arent copper colored. We did NOT descend from Africa. People need to stop lyin. We have enough racial appropriation going on. 🙄
@@rayveninwonderland5152 where were the Americans Indians before the Columbus lie. Where are you in any history book, please explain because it seems as if you just appeared out of thin air. I’m honestly confused.
Exactly. If you know you know! I’m tired of ignorance about our history discrediting our existence. It’s just another way of removing us.
@@imdifferentMr843 they assimilated almost immediately into the British colonies. Read books from the 1800s and there is allot of info on the Catawba. We are still here. I am Melungeon. My people are part Catawba tribe.
Samuel Taylor blue is my great great great grandfather believe it or not!!!!
I am Congaree to Catawba Dads Mothers side of Santee/Sumter S.C.🧞♀️ Love Tribe 🪶🪶
MY GRANDMA WAS CREOLE/CHEROKEE ❤️
(Looked Samoan)
@Saadiya Rothschild
I’m Cane River Creole.
Original settlement of Louisiana
1500’s🤔
Natchitoches
So, I say French🤷🏽♂️
Moi comprende?
@Saadiya Rothschild
🤣🤣🤣❤️❤️
I LUH ya Cuh ❤️
Alas....
your understanding of history is farcical.
beyond childlike
you’ve been regurgitating what you were taught by the white man,
who has a bountiful reasons to lie.
you have to study history for yourself my friend.
there was trading back-and-forth in the Americas,
👉🏽 long before Columbus was even born.
@Saadiya Rothschild
The Portuguese were importing
👉🏽Filipino and Chinese slaves to Mexico long before Columbus was even thought of.
your understanding of history is “wanting”🕵🏽♂️
- straight up
💥💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥
👉🏽“I am the highest in the room...”😎
@Saadiya Rothschild
Well...
My dads side is Arawak.
Caribbean
But you got lucky.
I still think you’re full of it....
@Saadiya Rothschild
I’m living breathing arguing proof, that the French got here 1st.
being that I’m a “French Indian”😎
Alas,
bring me a “Spanish Indian”,
👉🏽 to refute anything I say
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My mother is from that region of North Carolina. She told me she was Cherokee. However, researching the area of Rockingham County the Indians were Catawba-Siouan. I realized many of the Indians were called Cherokee instead of their correct tribes. These Indians in this video appear to be the Siberian variety. In other words the reds.
“Siberian variety”?
no one noticed the cat just showing up like yo wtf going on in here humans?! 15:15
My boyfriends dad I told hi, that he was catawba Indian from the Souix nation is this possibly correct they live in Richmond va
Can we possibly talk about what happened to the Enos that were absorbed by the Catawba's?
Let’s talk about it because I’m tryna find that out myself my people have been in that area since before the first u.s census
Wow this is crazy 😢 my great grandmother was a child in this video 😮 I’m a black man in America who has great grandparents that are Cherokee that are fair skin with good long black hair I never thought I would see this
I'm still waiting to see the Indians.... Not the $5 indians
You should learn the history behind the “$5 indian” and who it was applied to before throwing it around. I see you African Americans always using it when it has NOTHING to do with you guys.
@@IkceWicasa_7 you don't know anything about history foh
TJ Qwick No one knows our history but us, not you, not the white man. These are my people, worry about your own history.
@REACTION TUBE Another non native thinking they know our history. The Dawes rolls and the “$5 Indian” only pertained to the “5 civilized tribes”. That’s only five tribes out of 574 in the U.S alone. They don’t speak for us nor do they represent us. Sorry but anyone claiming to be Catawba today are heavily mixed, just like most tribes east of the Mississippi. The real Catawba are extinct, along with their culture and linguistics. The Blackfoot nation never lived in the Carolinas, that’s how I know you’re full of it. I love how you guys try to say you were here before us, but at the same time claim our tribes. Hó hečetu yeló.
@@IkceWicasa_7 Preach Brother! Nothing worse than Blacks and Whites trying to tell US who is Native and who is not.
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO
Foh
This is nice too watch the Catawba arent as well known
Is the Companion film uploaded? What year was this filmed?
The real ancestors
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Sad all these have passed on. 4:22 beautiful lady. :D
My grandmother
This is a bull shieet lie
our ancestors
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@@aborigineone2377 your ancestors are NEE- GROWS, NOT Native Americans 🤣
You can see who was mixed
They seem pretty happy.....
they are not Indians
our ancestors
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where is the Cherokee part?
them creeks and cherokee semanole
Them jackazz they are lying fools
Your ancestors
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Slow the Video down to see it in Real time .... monasukapanough 🏹
LMAO...!
gtfoh #ancient Seminole
lol they are not Indians
@@aborigineone2377 ???
Mongolians even
Whose directing this mess whose lil YT girl is that 😂😂😂😂
Where exactly was this filmed?
Rock Hill
Beautiful people!
LOL
Semitic concept of light skin (civilized), dark skin (uncivilized) is based on Civilized tend to stay indoor and clothed (Mastered the elements), Uncivilized tend to stay outdoors with less clothes (slave to the elements). It crosses "racial" lines and occupations. Work indoors, in climate controlled environment is considered a civilized job, while work outside, subject to the weather, is not.
You sound stupid dark skin people was on every continent ...omac for a example...the America is the old world not the new....white people blended there whiteness in every true tribe of America....get da f..k outta here....that y'all civilize we embrace your people when they came here we was humble to them even show y'all our religion "santee"... "Eutawville"... Edisto....we are the true Indian....around lake marion, sc....we are feather up down here
@@spiritualminded5448 I think you're misreading relative, the person is breaking down westernized ideals of civilized and uncivilized according to the Euro mindset. I don't groove they're determining anything based on skin color themselves. From what I've read that is
Why do u say Semitic concept tho?
Sources???
This whole video is a form of induction yes these people had to go through what they went through but they weren't But true aboriginals.
and chataw
@Re Re the brownskin girl Dumbass it's Chatah and Choctaw it's spelled different ways why you're trying to correct this person!
I'm a Choctaw-Creole of Louisiana and my family are registered and on the dawes row!
Shame! Not Catawba Indians. Those are clearly Europeans smh
Stfu
@@aidensanders2534 Thank you, needed to be said.
Sure are..not southeast woodland.
Facts !!!
bird clan
FAKESSSSSS
True American Indian don't dance like that. That dance look russian. These people are not indians.
What is actually wrong with you? I am Cherokee and Choctaw. This is us. We look like this. You are just a part of the colonial problem, doing their job, trying to erase us, because understanding the truth would hurt too much, right?
They love carrying water for settler colonial propagandists, at the end of the day. They're also profoundly stupid.
@@JessiRavenswood Preach it Sister! I am enrolled Catawba. The Black attempts at revisionist history are ridiculous. DNA destroys their fantasy, so they try to discredit DNA. We know who we are and who is not. SMDH!
Hey ma so am i Cherokee/cheraw our people live on through our bloodlines nobody can change that!
Our people survived we are still here!
My people came from catawba in 1700s alot of tribes joined each other too survive as my ancestors did
Our People are beautiful, Strong resilient my grandmother her peoples went too Croatan normal school now Pembroke state
My familes are spreaded across hoke, scotland and lumberton counties
Most my people are buried in Prospect.
Ive saw the new movements where African Americans are saying they are the "Real Natives"
And yet they can't prove any history photo, Dna/Bloodlines.
While natives did take I'n slaves intermingled had relationships,
They are not natives!
Some natives hid the fact they were native (the ones who could pass) due too not being captured as slaves
People do not realize we are different tribes different shades!
Some of us had too jump hoops too prove our status to the same government who brought devastation onto us can't nobody take away our spirit of who we are
Our DNA Our culture! ❤❤❤
@@JessiRavenswood
them chatawa natives and Cherokees and creeks and Chickasaw
I like to see ya do what Catawba stands for
+familyguygerald you aint nothing there is no Catawba and there is no Gerald in native ways your nothing
More European than Indian
THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT Catawba and Cherokee Indians THOSE ARE THE U.S. MADE INDIANS MIXED EUROPEANS
lol
them Chickasaw they aint catawba
+familyguygerald you might be chickasaw but you aint catawaba
The Chickasaw and Catawba were located very far apart. The Chickasaw were native to northeast Mississippi whereas the Catawba were from North Carolina/South Carolina border. There is clearly snow seen in some of this film. Mississippi get almost zero snow, whereas North Carolina gets snow every year. Catawba are much closer to Cherokee than Chickasaw.
Those aren’t Cherokee, they are clearly colonizers (Europeans)
War of the church cults
THEY ARE NOT NATIVE INDIANS
Coming from a African American I'm tired of these diasporain Africans claiming other groups identity,it's a insult when the word "fake" is used to undermine someone else's culture and birthrite,first your claiming aboriginal meaning your the first but refer these people as "fake"being the first you should have a distinctive language a tribal name with your own religious ceremonies and custom what area of North America did you occupy?Do you know the very person your following dane Conaway is claiming Cherokee..he's claiming one out of the 5 major tribes that had the most African slaves and feel proud being a descendent of that dark past,so what about the oboriginal claims?He knows there's no evidence to prove his fictitious claims so he's settling on a new wagon..diasporain Africans stop claiming other's identity...
stfu idiot. you have sooo much to learn. you are so clueless and indoctrinated.
@Sean Hayes... You really need to get out that paleface school brah. So-called white people are just Albino Africans. The so-called Negro is not the beady head African type. The Negro is various shades of copper/bronze and has thick wavy sometimes curly hair if unbraided. There are MANY books and documents; including but not limited Strong's Bible Dictionary and Webster's Dictionary 1828 that make the same distinction. The Mexican Chronicles and James Adair's work of 1775. And just because a nigga aint wearing feathers from his fitted cap and speaking some foreign language, doesn't mean he shouldn't be acknowledged. The whole earth worships Black American Culture.... I don't see people blowing up twitter for Nigeria's new artist Look around brah, before you speak.
Brothers Brothers listen , theres no specific way to accurately gauge the typical black american man cause they destroyed too much of our identity , if they could paint those pyramids all white then they did it here , I dont believe we all came here on a diseased wooden sail boat... Although some did , I dont believe we all are intermixed with whites from slavery , some of us are but not a whole lot infact most of our european dna markers come from overseas hundreds of THOUSANDS of years ago , and European dont necessarily mean white , Caucasoid differs from Caucasus (people from C.mountains)... People wanna gauge us from the last slave master to the darkest african , we're a differnt type of african indeed cause even not all africans look alike , You can mix us and we still hold distinct features , Moore blood could be for sure strong in our lineage , somebody taught the indians to wear masks, chant and dance around fire , aborigines been on the same thing since they left Africa , they mixed with the Indians (overseas) then discovered Australia , so lets not argue but instead embrace our mysterious circumstances , God hid our language & spirituality within us cause its meant for a direct connection with him ONLY ... And its real 💯💯💯🐺 🐺
You wrote a lot some was true so almost not but the facts remain documentation does not lie
Culture Vultures
The real tribes helped the $5 tribes then they stole from the real tribal people...
The “$5 Indian” only pertains to the Dawes Rolls, which only pertains to the “5 civilized tribes” and their freedmen.
what dose the white man got to do with native ways and things they don't and your not
How do I know your not a fake native. Running black bear? sounds like a Hollywood name to me, sir. If you call yourself Cherokee how do I know your not a fake Cherokee like many others. Just wondering.
+familyguygerald you don't know and you don't have a clue who I am and what my name means in native ways but the white man don't know native ways aint that right white boy
+familyguygerald go away want a be native
+runingblackbear and Omaka Teca Oiyokipi (Merry Christmas). Goodbye, I'm done arguing with you. I am Catawba. You may not believe me, but your have the right to think what you want. Although you cannot distort the facts. I am Catawba, it is in my lineage. What matters most is that we are Natives and need to preserve our heritage. Goodbye.
+familyguygerald like told you there is no more Catawba they where all killed off a long time ago about 200 years ago and you still dont know what Catawba means do you but you think your them and your not get over your self
Emigrants
and I put a bet on it ya wont do it either
+familyguygerald that don't make you Catawba native
Who are these white people? I didn't know aboriginal people had European features.🤯
Do you know your history of my people or met any of my people??
You should do your homework or are you part of the Africans that are of the native American movement claiming you're the real natives?
My people ancestors are recognized and fought the same as yours did the same Europeans and were dne the same so many of my people had babies by
These fools and were made too marry or kept as slave years
Made to forget our languages and clothing but you are welcome to visit our Pow Wows anytime 😊too learn.
We have been here shame on you
Our people had to fight same said government to be recognized and we are through our DNA/bloodlines!
Shame on you! We all come in different shades just as you
My mother is dark cherry wood
My daddy is light tan
These people you see are not "white" they are my people you can tell by their features as well as other factors
Research south carolina/North Carolina cheraw and surrounding tribes
research all native tribes early 1500s 1600s, etc
My Ancestors walked the trail of tears I have oral history, family photos as well as documents of our people our blood and membership cards!
I keep seeing yall speaking of fake Indians though you want to be but not verified 😴
Yes we lost alot of our history due to ignorance and greed but our bloodlines still remain!
Shame on you!
Btw, my husband is African and has European I'm his dna/bloodline and his whole family is dark skin I don't understand why people think there is such a thing as a "Pure Race" on this planet
When we all have been mingling for the past couple hundred yrs more it's insane!
Btw,My peoples do not carry the rhesus factor our blood is rate also
Through my Cherokee Side. Facts. 🙌
It's sad people still speaking on skin colors too judge someone
Characterize someone that white, black came from massa
And all natives dnt walk around in headress and moccasins
That was pretty much done away with that same Era your people endured racism
Just as this is a form
You calling our ancestors/people $5 Indians when you dnt know a day of our life culture!
Learn. Not from schools not the "white/washed" history! You should know better!
I'm 46yrs old I am seeing so much false information as well as people trying too claim what they are not!
Now you know you do not see a white person in this video
Haters are real!
My people come in all shades
As yours do
My bloodline my people ❤
Catawba are all dead and your not them
Yes I am Catawba. Go search Catawba and see the tribe is still alive.
+familyguygerald and no your not Catawba they where all killed off
+familyguygerald you are not Catawba there all dead
runingblackbear you are not native or you would know better, smh
My boyfriend is part Catawba. His mother was half Catawba and her mother was full blood.
there is no more Catawba they are all dead
+runingblackbear Where are you getting this information from? You are very misinformed. They mostly live in South Carolina, there is a Catawba Reservation in York, South Carolina actually and they have some smaller groups in Oklahoma and Colorado.
+Ambyr morton they are not Catawba people they might be native but there not Catawba
you need to do some research.
+Ambyr morton you dont have a clue all you have is the internet and its a joke and you don't even know what catawaba name means
+Ambyr morton he keeps telling me that I'm not Catawba. How does he know?
lol