Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN MAVERICK Evasion and Escape Scenes (6 of 8) Mover Ruins Movies
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First time? This is PART 6 of 8. Watch the full playlist here: ruclips.net/video/THeoKjVlFSw/видео.html Before you get triggered and say iT'S JuSt a MoViE or wHy dO yOu hAtE it.... relax, we know. this is Mover RUINS Movies. It's a fun breakdown/commentary/analysis with sarcasm, humor, and real world stories. We both loved the movie.
Very cool, thanks guys. I find it interesting that Mover said that the F-14 could probably outrun the guns as well, but not the missiles, 'cause I saw a debate where people were saying that even though the F-14 has a higher top speed than the Su-57, it doesn't have the acceleration and so wouldn't be able to get away quickly enough to actually outrun it - any comments on that?
When The Navy retired The F-14 was it a hard Adjustment for the F-14 Pilots to learn how to fly the F-18 Hornets any.
Absolutely loving your channel, I found it by chance, how Our Royal navy training is different but not dissimilar.
Rooster used the crate to get up the tomcat wing.
There's a lot of stuff in this film that can be considered fantasy movie magic, but it think the greatest example of that is there actually being two combat ready SU-57s.
Given the Russians can’t even field them, I’d agree
THREE. combat ready AND capable Su-57s. And at least three more presumed
Three is pushing it 🤣🤣. Then again it's not completely accurate to the real world because movie 🤷
@@fowti1470 You're right! There were more in the satellite shots at the beginning of the film. Well now this unnamed enemy country has more functioning SU-57s than Russia does in real life!
@@thedishonoredamerican129 yep.
Honestly. People who do mental gymnastics to say, “YEAH swinging the wings out on an F-14 at high speeds would enable the Cobra Maneuver!”
*Dude…*
Just say: it’s a movie and the scriptwriters need it to happen. I enjoyed the movie, but is it inaccurate? Yeah. Still fun as fuck.
In honor of Mover, when I saw the movie at the theater back in May with my 26 year old daughter I yelled out TOMCATS! Daughter reverted to her teenage self and slithered under her seat in embarrassment. It was glorious.
Who do you think you are, a Texan?
Was she inverted?
Just doing your job as a dad.
I'm not understanding why he yells out Tomcats. Do you mind explaining?
@@Dogpatch0842 it's a joke because Tomcats are their favourite fighter and because they love Top Gun
As a GSE mechanic, the luck for the airstart not to have dead batteries got me.
I mean the enemy seem to operate the tomcats quite regularly so maybe they got good maintenance?
Or are the tomcats that unreliable?
@@spare1518 The tomcats, I not sure. I don't know much about. The air start he kicked on tho I do. There really isn't much to repair on that, just regular maintenance. They are fairly durable, but the batteries never seem to hold a charge.
Our airstarts here (civilian people carriers) all are good as far as batteries go. There's just an odd chance you get one that won't supply enough air
If you have time for someone without knowledge, can you explain this to me? They're talking about bleeding the air and stuff. I have no idea what any of that meant.
@@brenthnatiuk8575 bleed air is just cross utilization of the air generated by the engine. The engine is one giant compressor. Not all of it is used to provide thrust. We have air bleed off of it to supply air pressure to the rest of the aircraft. And that "bleed air" is required to turn the blades of the engine so that we can introduce fuel and have it be self sustaining.
I could go in deeper. Such as the idg which provides electrical power
The FACT that Rooster knew how to pull the pins from the missiles but forgot to do it for the ejection actually makes sense because how could he know? That's why he couldn't eject later
I like that because it's a detail that only part of the audience will catch. I had no idea so I just thought "oh no, the seat's broken" but the fact that they have a logical reason for WHY it didn't work is outstanding.
Oh, that's why it didn't work. I assumed it was just old and giving out
Interesting. I was assuming they had no spare ejection cartridges. It’s hard to keep old ones airworthy and I don’t think not Iran was getting new parts
Not saying he didn't but how do you know that? Is there a shot of the pin still in for the ejection? Or is it just because they didn't show him pull one for the ejection? Just want some elaboration on how we know that's why the ejection doesnt work and not just its old.
@@grenademaster8981 Because they showed him pulling the pins off the missiles. Those little details. You need to prime the ejection before take off. It's technically explosive so why would it be armed when it isn't running? But Rooster wouldn't know that because...that's not his job in the Navy. Unlike movies, pilots pilot. They aren't the mechanics or the deck crew.
Another pilot on YT mentioned that thumbs down signal could also be "Plane is bad, need to land." And the enemy pilot is basically "Ok, follow me heading 330" -- because the nearest runway was cratered.
I remember someone saying that in a different video. Maverick was trying to signal "comms are down" to justify not hearing them, but you're interacting with a different air force and they may well have different gestures and of course a "down" signal could be interpreted in plenty of ways. I took it as the other pilot thinking "this guy can't hear me, I need him to follow me to a heading" but now it does actually make sense that he'd be seeing "Need to land" and trying to guide Maverick to the nearest runway for repairs.
I think you guys hit the nail with the signals from Bandit 1. First was "Follow ahead." Second was "Take heading 330" trying to lead them back to base, and even dipped right to indicate that as "turn now and follow me".
that is correct. those hand signals are standard international signals for lost comms or when intercepted by another aircrat. they teach these as part of training on the airlines.... quite actually surprised why they dont know it as thats part of their job description.....
@@timothychua7832 Mav was playing dumb, Rooster should've pointed it out considering he was fresh in the program.
I love how ever comma by mover “classic”
Maverick is faking comms problem again, although this time there is no “earth bulge” excuse. He bought a couple minutes time, until he saw the enemy wingman move to the weapons envelope. Basically the enemy is saying, you don’t follow me to the base, we’ll shoot you down.
@@hobogrifter yeah i was thinking that too but after watching several ex US military pilots also having no idea what the enemy pilot means i get confused again
Seeing two pilots reacting like a baby every time they see a tomcat makes me love the aircraft even more😭
Absolutely not afraid to admit I was crying when I saw the F-14, knowing it’s not flown in the west anymore (and only being born in 1996 in the UK meant I never got to see them) it was amazing to see it on the big screen as it’s my favourite aircraft and I’m sure those guys are the same the F-14 will always be a superstar, especially in the Navy!
Pfft, navy pilots. Lol
According to Edward "Mooch" Caroll, climbing on the F-14's horizontal stab as a RIO after the ladder is closed and locked is a real thing. He does it too himself back in the day.
Probably, but would a Hornet pilot know to do that?
@@CWLemoine Maybe Rooster is an enthusiast since that's what his dad flew.
@@CWLemoine probably not, either way...who knows.
@@CWLemoine Probably not, but in the movie it would have been pretty boring to watch half hour of Rooster trying to figure out how to get up. ;D
His dad was a RIO.. he rode.
7:20 "this is the greatest part of the movie", RIIIIIIIGHT.... i've watched this movie 2-3 times, but this scene in the dark room in particular when they realize he is alive, i've probably watched over 50 times, its sooooo gooood
- He's supersonic...
- He's airborne!
- IN WHAT?!
Chills every time.
In their point of views. It's ridiculous that Maverick and Rooster would sneak into an enemy base filled with craters and successfully steal an F-14
I bet they even saw the radar of the incoming enemy fighters on their tail and watch the blip disappeared one at the time
Would be interesting to see their reaction when they realized that Maverick in an F-14 managed to shoot down two SU-57
This episode is awesome! Everybody in the carrier was shocked and astonished as hearing the Tomcat comes to life.
When I saw the movie in the theaters, the crowd cheered at that moment
I imagine Tom Cruise explaining to Mover how to refuel and arm the F14 but all he does is looking at the damn thing shouting: "TOMCATS!!!"
Gotta love how what we initially thought was an easter egg or fleeting callback to the original film in the trailers (the Tomcat flying away over the snowed mountains) was actually the central piece of the third act of the movie.
My wife is notorious for ruining a movie's plot early. When we originally saw the trailer she's says "oh the f-14. So maverick gets shot down and then has to fly a f-14 that's just magically waiting for him. Just you watch, I bet that's what happens." And...sure enough, she called it.
@@JimmyJames562 trailers really spoiled things
Back then when I saw Rooster reacting to the SU-57 going by in the trailer. I saw the F-14 ejection handle which spoiled what was going to happen
@@guts-141 my wife spoiled it on the teaser trailer, lol. But yeah when they showed the f-14 ejection handle on rooster and the photos that leaked showing Tom and Miles in the f-14 it was out of the bag.
The part about asking a DCS expert about the Tomcat start-up was epic. Respect.
Honestly…. Anymore, they are the only ones left who even have an idea how to operate one.
@@HomeDefender30 Probably. I love DCS. Can't wait to upgrade my PC and get a better HoTaS so I can do more fun stuff with it.
@@noctisattano2593 I got DCS a while back because of how often I heard people talk about it. I played Ace Combat and later Project Wingman, both fantastic stories but I do recognise they are clearly arcade-combat games not proper simulations... played a bit of DCS and good god it takes a lot to earn your wings.
Allegedly, I'll leave it to actual pilots to confirm this, the simulations are that accurate to the real things that you could learn how to start up and fly a real jet fighter using it, that's how accurate the start-up and aerodynamics are of the planes. Again, I'll leave that to real pilots, I'm not about to trash a very expensive plane trying to prove a point.
I haven't flown it in a while, but I do have the Tomcat in DCS, and the bits of start-up shown seemed reasonably accurate. At least compared to how it's simulated in DCS. However, if one had to raise an objection, it'd be that the RIO has a bunch of stuff to do in the cockpit before engine start. And Rooster doesn't seem to play that part. But it's possible they were flying with minimum systems on. Possibly not even radar (can't remember if the scope was shown online).
@@ShadowGJWhat they don't tell you is that the INS alignment is actually optional. If you're not using navigation, the INS doesn't matter. IRL it can be skipped for exactly this reason (fast startup).
Nothing the GIB has access to is actually relevant to the aircraft's airworthiness.
The expression on my face when this scene happened was pure joy. As someone who never got to watch OG Topgun in theaters I felt special knowing I'm alive and watching a Topgun movie in theaters. This is truly a love letter to Topgun and fighter jet movie fans
The fact that this scene exists is pure cheese. But the setup to get them to this moment and the execution of the story leading to this is just brilliant. The cheese was fun though - who doesn't like cheese?? But also, they never let it get away from the overall tone of the movie.
My man gets it
Love how Maverick is, "It's been a minute...(since I've flown a Tomcat)", then proceeds to fly surface-of-the-sun-SHIT-HOT in life and death dogfighting about 5 minutes later, downing two superior airframes. My oh my!
Don't think, just do!
Simplified version of JUST DO IT!
We have pilots of an F-16 and F/A-18, and even they constantly cheer for the F-14. The undying beauty of the Tomcat really came out in this movie, they did it justice all right
It was a CG only model for exterior shots
But *holy fuck* was it awesome
Yeah unfortunately the US scrapped most of their retired Tomcats. Honestly should have stayed in service a lot longer than it did, but oh well
@@beatboxbuggi6884 Look up how then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney made sure of that...
I love how people get so triggered by you guys giving real life input on how things actually are. Then they are the same ones who get pissed off about things are ARE real (calling the carrier the Boat) yet they have no experience to back up their complaints..🤣🤣 great series Mover and Gonky!
i love how every single aviation enthusiast just universally loves the tomcat, no matter how old it gets
Not afraid to admit that I squealed like a 12 year old girl during these Tomcat scenes....and yeah, my wife laughed at me the entire time.
I said TOMCATS out loud
LOL me too! My little sister told me to calm down and my mom told me it was only a movie.
As the wife in question.... squealing and TOMCATS!!! every time. 7 times in the theater and 12 times at home so far. LOL
@@annlanoux1294 ROFL
I was in tears a little bit it was so beautiful to the F-14 in this film!
All that attention to detail pulling pins and conduits and they don't arm their seats. Also, the radio being busted was an easter egg. They took Anthony Edwards up back during filming of the original movie and a breaker had popped for comms, so Bozo had him feel behind his seat for the popped breaker. By the end of filming, "Goose" knew how to do it instinctively. Edwards thought he was going to get electrocuted in that first attempt, though.
That's awesome!
Ohh, this explains why the seat later fails, I guess.
Yeah. The reason why the seat doesn't work for Rooster when he pulls the handle... Oops...
The detail where the switch is visible enough for sharp eyed viewers to notice that it wasn't armed was great
@@guts-141 What timecode? Where can I spot it?
I was a Intruder and Hornet PR for many years. Much of the flight gear (O2 mask lower hose, Comm Cord, G-suit) is the same, the big difference is the Leg garters F-14/A-6 guys worn to retract their legs during an ejection
Were you stationed out of Whidbey Island?
This was the best part of the movie for me - I'm not even worried about the little errors missed - It was just EPIC....
@Geek amen.
I love Jurassic Park but in terms of paleontologic accuracy… *it’s not that high*
I love breakdowns of these movies be it JP or TG.
I read elsewhere that the clear visor was used so that the viewing public can actually see that it was the real actors doing the scenes, and not trigger naysayers into claiming it was just a double hiding behind a black visor…
Yep...when making a movie you HAVE to consider the people you're making it FOR. Another thing would be the ejection handles...yes, there were handles between the legs, but those above the seat were easier for the audience to see.
That's why you'll never see a truly 100% accurate film of ANY historical or historically based event...the true events would bore the audience to tears.
The manual burn on the way home in "Apollo 13"? Didn't happen like in the movie, where they flew all over the place. It was "Ignition" Several seconds of silence. "And cutoff."
Kind of a shame they never credited the Flanker Pilots.
@@SawdEndymon Flanker? Are you referring to the SU-57 Felon?
It cross bleeds on the A-6 Intruders also !!!! I was a U S Navy Intruder plane captain back in 1973-75. VA-42 NAS Oceana, Va. Beach, Va.
Reminds me of an Oddball quote in Kelley's Heroes, "Don't look at me. I only ride 'em. I dunno what makes 'em work!"
In Hollywood movies, everyone's usually a "special forces" guy/girl so they automatically know everything.
Great point about flaps, coming from a GA pilots perspective.
If anything, I'll give it to TGM for being one of the most realistic of all the aviation genre to even attempt to depict a lot of these details.
Tom Cruise's goal is we be entertained, and I can safely say he succeeded
Definitely, its a movie first and so entertainment comes before realism, its why you can criticise so much of the upcoming fight scene for its breaking of reality but still absolutely love it.
I just wanna think that
- Rooster is an elite pilot
- he might have spend some time learning the basics of the planes his dad flew (could be contradictory in dialogue)
Also according to Ward Carol, mavericks start up sequence is correct. Pretty cool to hear!
Yes! There was another video (I forget the name of who posted it ) said that the startup procedure depicted was correct, albeit very abbreviated, or else it would have become a training video instead of a movie 😅
I also recall in the same video mention that the air does crossbleed into the other engine once the first one starts up.
On side note… where are the wheel chocks?
I know there a number of things wrong with this movie but I always appreciated that this is the first air combat movie that shows a fighter jet needing an external air source to start.
Rooster: You've gotta be shitting me....
Wild Weasels: You didn't do any SEAD in this mission, you don't get to say that.
Having been on the wrong end of a Hind, I can attest both that they have a single gatling gun but it fires a lot faster than one from a John Wayne movie, and that they would more likely engage a small target like that with some of those 128 S5 rockets it's carrying. Always happy to see one splashed though!
We did a lot of bare-base detachments and a shed-load of cross-training went on so yeah we could all do every job there was to wind up the airplane.
The Mi-24P/Mi-35P has a twin-barrel GSh-30-2K instead of the gatling cannon. Only version with it, and that's what they showed in the movie.
@@CAPFlyer this one has a twin-cannon chin turret, so it has to be the ultra-rare Mi-24VP
I know the Tomcat in aviation action sequences was entirely CG. However, production designer Jeremy Hindle said that they used one F-14A from the San Diego Air & Space Museum, for the actors to physically TOUCH the jet, as well as whenever Maverick was doing his thing with the jet.
filmmaking note/editing here: since there's a jump cut between each thing Rooster is doing to get the plane ready, Mav probably was telling him what to do in the "story" and they used the elliptical editing technique so viewers could fill in the gaps. you guys explain things so well but are also really funny.
This scene actually gave me behind enemy lines vibe actually the entire scene after the Sam’s go after them could be a behind the enemy lines spin-off.
Two things I question in this part.
1. The enemy Mil Mi-24 "Hind" fires on Mav as soon as it spots him. Would they not attempt to take him alive first?
2. Maverick and Rooster don't appear to carry pistols on them. Am I wrong to assume that fighter pilots would always be strapped in case they bail out over enemy territory and encounter infantry?
Ideally yes, but we're going under assumption these aren't the most well trained guys going from their skills with the felon and their SAM placement. Probably happy he got something to shoot at and went for it 🤷🏽♂️
The Hind pilot got emotional. Doesn’t this happen quite often in war? I can’t tell if they carry a pistol or not.
i believe the Navy uses the Sig Sauer M18 handgun but the most recent USAF kits include a takedown AR-15 derivative called GAU-5A with multiple loaded mags.
If they weren't armed in the cockpit then their PDW would've been in the bailout bag under the seat cushion?
The mission was a success, the facility was destroyed. Capturing one of the pilots now is like locking the gate after the horse has bolted. At this point it’s an act of retribution.
The love and enjoyment of flying that you & Gonky show during this series is pretty damn motivational ... And look my wife is not an aviation buff but even she squealed when she saw the Tomcats
I agree...the "no flap takeoff" was something that caught me as well. No way they would have taken off successfully like that WITHOUT full flaps.
But still....I can not count how many times I rewound where Mav used the downed first plan to escape the first missile. That was just brilliant. Totally unrealistic....but still brilliant.
I love the way you guys rip it apart when something stupid happens I laughed so hard! xD But you also give credit where it's truly due. This is so cool to see your perspective on this.
Keep'em coming. Loved this series more than the actual movie itself (especially MOVER's face when hollywood gets it wrong)
I was groundcrew in the Royal Air Force for 14 years and when they reached the Tomcat and interacting with the start-up equipment I got very excited. Was funny hearing that the pilots had no idea what to do 😂
So the seat pan for the Super hornet and Tomcat are different but your mask would fit both (common fittings). Same for G-suit. There were like 2 options for G suits but they all had the same fittings. Also same harness Koch fittings to integrate with your parachute. Different parachutes and different seat pans but same fittings. -Retired PR1
As an ex Egyptian fighter this is totally different from how we communicate with each other if the radio is down
I just love to hear from fighters from all over the world.
My buddy and I saw this 3 days early, and right before they show the Tomcat through the bino's I said "There's no FUCKING WAY they're gonna steal a Tomcat" way louder than I intended.
The next second, the movie cut to the F14.
Everyone within probably 5 rows turned, looked at me, turned back to the screen and started laughing.
Thank you both for your service. Really enjoy watching military guys pick apart (or praise) military movies.
I really enjoy the commentary from you guys. I have never been so entertained watching commentary on anything before. Keep up the great content.
They missed a trick...lying on that bank observing the Tomcat...the only line for Mav should have been..."I feel the need!"
Love it! The commentary from you guys is fantastic!
The detail I LOVED was that they correctly included the IRST on the front of the SU-57. That and the breakers in the F-14. Love those details.
Because it was a real cockpit
From the little I know about the front seat of the F-14 from DCS, it did look like Maverick was doing the startup correctly as you can see him powering up stuff like the HUD on the right hand panel, and cranking the port engine to start it. Not 100% sure if bleed air can be used to start the starboard engine but it wouldn't surprise me if you can
I like how they remove the launch bar on the F-14 to make it even more not carrier ready
I mean… the F-14 flies for the Iranian AF so it’s understandable.
@@SawdEndymon but the Iranian F-14 still has its launch bar and stuff. The one in Top Gun is like a super extra modified land-based version without a launch bar and even tailhook
@@uts_137 Oh right….
Though TBH, they never named the country. Apparently the enemy country has modified f-14s since they no longer need the bar, and are both wealthy and competent enough to get Russian Su-57s *THAT ARE COMBAT READY*
Or it’s just the screenwriters and artists forgot to include it and it’s a movie.
@@SawdEndymon They never name the country but the only country outside of the US to operate the F14 is Iran.
It was pretty cool that they squeezed the F-14 into the film, but the manner by which they acquired it was beyond implausible.
Yes and no. There is an argument that it was 'easy', but what did you expect? If the whole thing had devolved into an on-ground fight with guns or fists to get to the Tomcat it would have been completely out of character for these characters, the franchise, and everything related to it. Not to mention it would have slowed down the movie to a crawl. The whole point about Top Gun is pilots doing cool thing with planes in the air.
The movie argument is that in the mess caused by the bombing earlier, between wounded, killed, and those trying to put out fires or help others, there is a case to be made that the last thing those still standing would think is that there are two enemy pilots in the base (probably they don't even are aware two pilots were shot down), and much less trying to get onto an old fighter specially when the runways are destroyed to take off.
Is it? There's the "fog of war", but also everyone on the base has a responsibility in a time like that. You wouldn't' be worried about someone else as much. Two pilots running to check if a plane is flyable and getting it into the air would not look out of place, I'd think. It's not like they are going to need clearance from ATC.
@@patfer1189 in other words: it’s a movie.
Personally, I liked it like everyone BUT, I also like pilots breaking scenes down like this l
The run time of the movie wasn't long enough to give them more time on the ground to get to a means of escape.
It's been done several times before in WW2.
I have a friend who is an NFO, and I see her and her friends acting just like the two of you. It made your commentary that much more enjoyable.
8:41 It means "roll out of turn", then "heading 3-3-0". The enemy pilot wasn't going to suggest a freq right after Maverick said his comms were down.
Love these videos. Hate how short they are.
Love when as soon as the Tomcat shows up it turns from "Ruins movies" to "Is this how it was back then".
Also, starting to get way too much mission impossible vibe from cruise in this part, I would expect the younger version would've not have even waited for them felons to get close...
i love the way how Gonky is acting and commenting whilst giving signals of using IDD during (or before) this video. However, great job gents, totally loved it!
Right before the dogfight scene you have to cut it short.... damn you Lemoine!!! haha
Yeah, right?!?!?!
Maverick:”Rooster, you have to remember what your dad taught you!”
Rooster:”How to shit in a toilet?”
"How to play the piano?"
I get he didn't have options but 1:39 gotta love hiding behind a dead tree when getting shot at by helo gun rounds. Pretty sure those rounds would go through it like wet toilet paper lol. He could at least be down hidden behind it and start Army crawling away from his last known location so they are shooting at a spot he isn't at anymore.
Luckily they missed
You're killing me with these parts...I got to wait for the next one, ugh. Lol, love this series.
I love it when Mover teams with Gonky for some Top Gun fun. 💛🙏🏽
I loved this part of the film. Tomcats!! The tomcat looks so good. I got the 330 heading in theatre, thanks guys for this!!!
Mav in this is very similar to TCs character in War of the Worlds..a working class guy full of regrets, an outsider who is out of touch with the younger gen but still can be the hero they look up to by the end
And then he recruits you to a space cult.
War of the Worlds was terrible
@Mover - The T-38 has to have the valve moved manually because the USAF is cheap and refused to update the airplanes with the motorized valve that Northrop put on all the F-5s. When NASA got their T-38s, they insisted the valve be put on the plane. Only airplane I've ever been around with a manual pneumatic crossbleed valve. But hey, at least it wasn't an SR-71 where they originally started them with Cadillacs. :)
I thought they used Buick engines for the Start Carts? And later used Chevrolet Big Blocks?
Honest question because that’s just what I’ve read.
@@OrtadragoonX Yes, you're right, they were originally Buicks. The later engines were Chevys, but I heard them called Cadillacs, which I guess is because Buick is GM's premium brand same as Buick is Ford's.
@C.W. Lemoine
I had 2 consecutive bad jumps while with the 82nd Airborne back in 1982.
( a month apart from each other )
I lasted in the ARMY till 1987 when I had to be medically discharged due to those injuries,
in 1993 I received my 100% VA Disability due to those back injuries....
So yeah it's a thing 🙂
*PS:* yeah I knew while watching this in the Theater the SU-57 was saying go to heading 330 😆
These are great. Glad Gonky came. NEED MOREEEEE!
I'm really enjoying this series! Good to see you guys enjoying the TOMCATS!
It can’t be… It can’t be
....Maverick.
The F-14 may be obsolete by todays standards. But dam that is a good looking aircraft. I am surprised it did not find its way into the civilian market like your T-38 did Mover. There is a lot of people out there that have more money then sense that could of saved them.
The DOD forbade civilian sale because they didn't want the Iranians to get more/spare parts.
@@Gozokukolat the Iranians have been reverse engineering their Tomcats to create the parts they need, they’ve even created their own version of the Phoenix missile (the Fakour-90)
The A and B are but there’s no reason the D couldn’t be flying today. The D was tested for HARM and AMRAAM and those tests were successful. They didn’t get the funding for it. The D was far more an asset than say the Charlie model F-15 was beings it had a very good air to ground capability as well as air to air. The continuation of the heavy use of hydraulic fluid was the only Achilles heel of the D model. That would of course be fixed with 21. The biggest issue was there were still A models flying as late as 2001 and A+ models out to as late as 2003. Those should have been retired decades before.
I have heard somewhere that the decomissioned F14s were all destroyed so the Iranians couldn't get their hands on spare parts for theirs.
@@petrairene I keep hearing the same thing. Fun fact, two minutes ago I was able to pull up the flight manual for the Grumman F-14 A1 on google. THERE ARE NO SECRECTS ANYMORE. Lol
Thankyou for this series, appreciate it
Hey- I don’t know donkey squat about planes, signals, procedures or engagements but just watching TG-Maverick- 36 years after the original is SO COOL! I’m a girl but these movies are so heartfelt and an adrenaline rush, I want to get a plane and fly the hell out of it! I jumped up and screamed several times during the crazy flight scenes. Thanks guys for critiquing the obvious errors but still loving the movie .
Great video Mover, Also DCS player here the F-14 does cross bleed.
Isn't the 14 able to self start? I know the hornet can.
@@icecold9511 No. it needs external air and power.
@@icecold9511 from what I've done with the DCS tomcat, you need external power and air to start the plane.
Through the first 1/4 of the movie
Mover: This sucks.. this is so wrong
Through the last 1/4 of the movie
Mover: YEAHHH! TOMCATS!
Seeing a Tomcat today with power while cleaning up from Ian made my day! TOMCATS! Thanks Mover & Gonky for the entrrtainment!
I was a Jet Engine Mechanic in the U.S. Navy when I served, I served with VFA-151 on the U.S.S. Midway with the F/A-18A's, Then was stationed with VF-114 on the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, I worked on the F-14A's B's and D's with VF-24 and VF-31 along with time at Top Gun at NAS Miramar, before returning to the F/A-18 community at the end of my service, With the F-14 Tomcat, the air source is plugged into the starboard side rear fairing under the airbag about where the trailing edge would be if the wings are not swept, now you can from the cockpit pit which engine that you crank first, NORMALLY the starboard engine is started first to get Primary hydraulic pressure for the brakes and horizontal stab actuators, after the engine is running at idle, you can start the other engine or air can be disconnected and start the other engine with cross bleed starting, now after a lot of pausing the instruments look to be right, we do not get a very long glance at them, BUT the fuel is WRONG the gauge reads 20,000 pounds, but that is impossible without drop tanks which this F-14 does not have, the max fuel weight would be 16,000 pounds of internal fuel, I did see a few things that was wrong when "ROOSTER" was going around and prepping the outside for takeoff, the first thing he removed was the electrical connector, this is NOT done till BOTH engines are at idle and both generators are fully online, now I am not an ordie, but I have NEVER seen anyone just grab the flag and yank out the pins out, also I don't even think that is possible, I DO know that those pins are locking pins, there is a button that has to be pushed to release pull them, I do not know which version of Sidewinder that are on this plane, but after he pulled the pins, he DID NOT pull out the T handle, rotate it 90 degrees to enable the rocket motor, and fold back down to the side of the missile body, the pulling of the air hose looked ok, but the main gear safety locks are a bit more complicated than just a locking pin like in the nose gear or any of the gear pins on an F/A-18, as far as how he got onto the plane to enter the cockpit, that is correct, and was quite common to be done, G-suit and oxygen are identical BUT the F-14A had a different ejection seat if they done this, they would NOT have any leg restraints available for them you use, Ejection would be very problematic, in the F/A-18 the leg restraints are ATTACHED to the seats and are fully adjustable for each individual crew member, the the F-14A and B this is not the case, the leg restraints are part of each crew members flight gear, Kock fittings are the same, also when they got in the seats, MAVERICK should have known but on top of the seat is a safety switch, with a little red paddle, before you go flying, that paddle which is usually done by the crew member is flipped down, to arm the seat, upon landing, they reach up and flip it up disarming the seat, now how come when they were in the little hangar, the plane had a launch bar, but when taxi out, no launch bar??? flaps and slats help in takeoff and landing, neither can be used on the F-14 without the wings being in the 20 degree position, yes there is an ejection handle in the F-14A's between your knees, but the Primary is the face curtain rings,
I was a Tomcatter from 2000 until 06 when we had to say bye to the tomcat. On the Lincoln, Stennis and the Eisenhower
Looking at it, I don't think Rooster's seat is armed...
Absolutely. That's why he tells Mav they're out of flares, even though he's still in the plane.
@@rcslyman8929 Explain. Why wouldn't he say they're out of flares and still be in the plane?
@@grenademaster8981 Like "Wedge". He's the last flare.
It's a reference to Mover's review of Battlefield 3 video. "Arm the seat, WSO, you're the last flare."
The reason the Hind attacked was because the airbase just got blown to shit and their friends and crewmates were there. They likely just wanted payback and weren't thinking straight, after all you can parade a dead US Pilot in front of the TV just as much as you can a live one.
Any country sophisticated enough to have a military that possess 5th gen. fighters is going to find more political value in a foreign pilot that's alive than video of a dead one. There's no way they would have tried to kill him.
It's also possible that the helicopter was another aircraft on that destroyed base that the missles missed and that took off after the attack on the airport.
I enjoyed your facial expressions and excitement Mover! And I am smiling because Gonky is always smiling 😁.
I enjoy watching these reviews!
I liked the added realism of not everything working on the F-14; even better would be some sort of engine “chip” light warning that there are metal chips detected in engine or gearbox oil. Just something for old maintenance personnel to notice
They didn't go to garand thumb sere school
If you've....ever been in an evasion scenario with your wingMAN and just started yelling at each other out in the open, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
@@CWLemoine Well done lad!
Sir, your spine an neck issues are not related to your service. 60% disablitiy is approved.
I love Mover saying stuff like: "Who told you that?" after Rooster is hit. Really brings these things back to reality.
I’m surprised you guys didn’t touch on the fact best case scenario, the hind has a 12.7mm Gatling, worst case (and based on what I see the most likely case) a 30mm auto cannon. That log he’s curling behind ain’t stopping anything close to that. All he’s doing is ensuring that he’s getting blasted by wood splinters on top of the bullets.
This whole series is so great
DCS F-14 flier here. I dunno if it's correct, but Maverick started up the F-14 the same way I always do. Display/HUD switches on, then crank the engine when the air is connected.
Top Gun Maverick was great, a fun movie with the 80s feel.
Listening to these two guys and how they also loved the movie as well, especially with their own fighter jet experience and getting excited to see the F14 just shows what a great movie it was.
The Darkstar theme coming in really gets the blood pumping when they steal the F14
And the Danger Zone leitmotif soon after they taxi'ed out of the hangar
Been watching these a bit out of sequence but I’m very much enjoying you guys and the commentary!
this is what ive been waiting for, because ive really been wondering what these handsigns were all about
2:29 was legit the funniest part of the movie I remember the whole theater laughing out loud...
This is when Top Gun Maverick turned into Metal Gear for a hot minute and I loved it.
Sneaking into the base and getting the tomcat was awesome.
When Rooster got held back four years he spent all them learning how to prep a Tomcat
hey Mover I
have a great mover ruins movies video suggestion it's an old navy carrier movie with some of the first navy combat jets called the bridges at Toko-ri it was made in 1954 and set during the Korean war it's about navy pilots who have to bomb a heavily defended bridge in North Korea. The movie shot some scenes on the carriers USS Oriskany and USS Kearsarge along with some scenes shot at the US Naval Base in Yokosuka, Kanagawa Japan. The aircraft used are Grumman F9F Panther Fighter Squadron 192 (VF-192) "Golden Dragons.
Old movie but worth it to see your take and surprisingly well produced for something made in 1954.
Great catch on the short field take off about also using flaps and not just spreading the wings of the Tomcat!
I am hooked on how you exclaim "TOMCATS!"
ahhh wish we didnt have to wait for part 7 and 8!!!! I love the videos C.W
22, 55, 68, 72 are the degrees of the Tomcat wing sweep positions. I forgot the oversweep (storage) positions….but while I’m thinking of this, it’s been so long, I could be all wrong about all of this. Here’s to old age. Taking a shot.👌😂
6:26 Don’t know if anyone else noticed but look how both of the Tomcat’s rudders move inward like the F/A18.
Climbing onto the horiz stab was probably just him thinking “what’s the lowest thing here to climb onto?” (If we imagine this to be real, lol!).
I’m more shocked the plane was flyable! Wasn’t the Tomcat a maintenance hound even with USN parts support? Anyway, back to the popcorn and joy of this fun flick!!
Best action movie I've seen in years.
I love how you guys talk about how silly the movie is but at the same time are so enthusiastic about it.😅👍