AFTER THE BUFFS: - Team's weaknesses are still there. The additional HP is nice, but doesn't change this guide. - You can now use the free 2 EP that you have to spend on 2 combat blades, which is nice as a back up. You can use them also guarantee 5 damage on a charge using For Cadia if you really need to, but it's not that great. More often, use it to guarantee 4 damage on a charge if you're desperate? - Additional Elite Points means you can use them for most of your big weapon attacks now, but still doesn't mean you can use them on your less powerful ones.
Super helpful video for when Mt box finally arrives a few months in the future! Would love to hear your thoughts on the navy breachers if you end getting them to bolster the inquisition
There is a semi-decent combo against hordes: Trooper with frag grenade, buffed by comms on TP1. Combo with +1EP from that strat ploy and you have a nasty 2 free EP blast grenade with 15" threat range.
The flamer (unmodified) does more damage to SM and INT than both the Volley-gun and even the Krak Profile of the grnage launcher. (YES hitting 5 shots on 2+ is THAT much better even tho the damage is only 2, those 2's stack) It's an auto take on ITD. The flamer is great, as the fourth Gunner (Behind Sniper, Melta, and Plasma) The exception is that elite points on the flamer vs using elite points on your Krak rolls - in that case the Krak finally wins out! But this isn't necessarily a great reason to take the Krak because you already have 3 other weapons that should be using your elite points almost exclusively. You should save and use your elite points on the Melta, The Plasmas, and the Sniper, which do insane damage when essentially auto-critting (by spending elite points). Elite points should ONLY be used on the BIG guns, becuase they barely make a dent on las weapons. Hitting on 4+ just plain sucks. and elite points can't even make these weapons as strong as a SM bolter or Shuriken rifle, regardless of how many elite points are used, they still do pitiful damage. BUT they can really push your big guns over the edge, so only use them there! Save them for those few big shots you're hopefully going to be taking. Therefore in most instances, the flamer will still be a better take than the launcher and volley gun, even against elites.
AS clean up the flamer is very important as a very reliable murderer of the injured. Grenade launcher and Volley-gun can wiff, the flamer cannot wiff! So even though it's doing small damage, it's very important when strategizing to have very RELIABLE damage.
I love this, never considered that! I definitely agree that you should never use EP on the last gun (Krak GL in the guide), but never considered the math on there for ITD specifically. Cheers! This makes me happy since my flamer is my favorite model on the team (gave him a fun kitbash head).
Hey. I'm new to killteam and picked Kasrkin as my starter team because I like guard and I was told whilst not powerful Kasrkin were a good team to learn the game with. Not too many complicated abilities to learn with reliable dice where it matters courtesy of elite. Thank you for the guide! I was going to suggest leaving the slides on screen longer but then saw you linked them.
Thank you for taking the time to create this guide, it is concise and precise which makes it nice and easy to follow for me. I also like how you take the time to explain your thought process behind your choices. Nice work !
the vox trooper having an infinite range, no sightline required, APL share that turns him into essentially a token is still the funniest part about this team to me. also great vid!
Great guide! I would love to see a wyrmblade guide as there basically no wyrmblade guides out there that are useful and your guides seem to be exactly what I need. Keep up the great work!
Really great video, thank you. Love how you relate your practical, in game experience e.g. how many of what ploys you're probably going to use and how to use the rest of your CP. The hand-holding is much appreciated by this noob.
Another fantastic guide, thank you! Do you think that Kasrkin are more competitive than scions in the current meta, or do they shake out about the same?
Thanks! Great question, probably should have touched on this. I think they fill different roles. Scions probably can do Loot better, no question, however overall Kasrkin fill the "shoot lots of AP2" niche better. They don't do the same things, ultimately.
Helpful and informative, why does it look like this was filmed in a prison cell though? I'm pretty sure one of those maps was hiding an escape tunnel you've been digging with spoons
Just give them 14 operatives ? I really don't understand how James Workshop dropped the ball on them. Or just make their shooting slightly better vs everything.
AFTER THE BUFFS:
- Team's weaknesses are still there. The additional HP is nice, but doesn't change this guide.
- You can now use the free 2 EP that you have to spend on 2 combat blades, which is nice as a back up. You can use them also guarantee 5 damage on a charge using For Cadia if you really need to, but it's not that great. More often, use it to guarantee 4 damage on a charge if you're desperate?
- Additional Elite Points means you can use them for most of your big weapon attacks now, but still doesn't mean you can use them on your less powerful ones.
Who should get combat blade?
@@DodgethisCZ Anyone who isn't a gunner or the sergeant that'll go up, like the demo guy or troopers.
@@VentrueMinis awesome you are best man!
Super helpful video for when Mt box finally arrives a few months in the future! Would love to hear your thoughts on the navy breachers if you end getting them to bolster the inquisition
Hey, can you do one of these for Mandrakes and Nightlords? You're the best KT tactics channel ❤
Love hearing about the Kasrkin! Gotta remember that if you see they've only got a 40% win rate, then you've just gotta be that 40%!
I have been playing exclusevily Kasrkin for more than 3 months and i have to say that this guide is really good and accurate, so thank you very much.
There is a semi-decent combo against hordes: Trooper with frag grenade, buffed by comms on TP1. Combo with +1EP from that strat ploy and you have a nasty 2 free EP blast grenade with 15" threat range.
The flamer (unmodified) does more damage to SM and INT than both the Volley-gun and even the Krak Profile of the grnage launcher. (YES hitting 5 shots on 2+ is THAT much better even tho the damage is only 2, those 2's stack)
It's an auto take on ITD.
The flamer is great, as the fourth Gunner (Behind Sniper, Melta, and Plasma)
The exception is that elite points on the flamer vs using elite points on your Krak rolls - in that case the Krak finally wins out! But this isn't necessarily a great reason to take the Krak because you already have 3 other weapons that should be using your elite points almost exclusively. You should save and use your elite points on the Melta, The Plasmas, and the Sniper, which do insane damage when essentially auto-critting (by spending elite points). Elite points should ONLY be used on the BIG guns, becuase they barely make a dent on las weapons. Hitting on 4+ just plain sucks. and elite points can't even make these weapons as strong as a SM bolter or Shuriken rifle, regardless of how many elite points are used, they still do pitiful damage. BUT they can really push your big guns over the edge, so only use them there! Save them for those few big shots you're hopefully going to be taking. Therefore in most instances, the flamer will still be a better take than the launcher and volley gun, even against elites.
AS clean up the flamer is very important as a very reliable murderer of the injured. Grenade launcher and Volley-gun can wiff, the flamer cannot wiff! So even though it's doing small damage, it's very important when strategizing to have very RELIABLE damage.
I love this, never considered that! I definitely agree that you should never use EP on the last gun (Krak GL in the guide), but never considered the math on there for ITD specifically. Cheers! This makes me happy since my flamer is my favorite model on the team (gave him a fun kitbash head).
@old-man-two-ears hi is it still better take flamer even after buff?
Hey. I'm new to killteam and picked Kasrkin as my starter team because I like guard and I was told whilst not powerful Kasrkin were a good team to learn the game with. Not too many complicated abilities to learn with reliable dice where it matters courtesy of elite. Thank you for the guide! I was going to suggest leaving the slides on screen longer but then saw you linked them.
Your timing is perfect, about to play them this week. Super useful, thanks for the tips!
Thank you for taking the time to create this guide, it is concise and precise which makes it nice and easy to follow for me. I also like how you take the time to explain your thought process behind your choices. Nice work !
Thank you!!!
the vox trooper having an infinite range, no sightline required, APL share that turns him into essentially a token is still the funniest part about this team to me. also great vid!
Yeah, I guess it is a carryover from Compendium Scions. So Scions and this bespoke team have the best Comms in the game by far.
Good breakdown!
Great guide! I would love to see a wyrmblade guide as there basically no wyrmblade guides out there that are useful and your guides seem to be exactly what I need. Keep up the great work!
Love it. Another great guide. Keep up the good work
Very clear breakdown!
Great stuff!
Fantastic Guide. More!!!
Awesome stuff Nick!!
Thanks mate, miss you guys!
Excellent overview
Really great video, thank you. Love how you relate your practical, in game experience e.g. how many of what ploys you're probably going to use and how to use the rest of your CP. The hand-holding is much appreciated by this noob.
Cheers! I tried to strike a balance between broad concept and application, glad to hear it worked for you!
Also, thank you so much for the donation ❤️❤️❤️ first one, means a lot.
Comment for the engagement gods! Great job, Night!
A really good review!
I think the team definitely needs some help but the models are too good for me to not keep trying to make them work!
keep up the vids
Yaaaaay ive been waiting for this one. HELOOOOOS
Well, it’s time to paint my old pewter kasrkin!
Btw I think markerlight pointer you showed is only laser pointer dot when I checked online. I almost bought it but in the end I get laserline :D
Another fantastic guide, thank you! Do you think that Kasrkin are more competitive than scions in the current meta, or do they shake out about the same?
Thanks! Great question, probably should have touched on this. I think they fill different roles. Scions probably can do Loot better, no question, however overall Kasrkin fill the "shoot lots of AP2" niche better. They don't do the same things, ultimately.
Need one of these videos for wyrmblade. Sub earned well done video
Helpful and informative, why does it look like this was filmed in a prison cell though? I'm pretty sure one of those maps was hiding an escape tunnel you've been digging with spoons
It's the only accomodations the Imperium had to offer!
:D
Please do Arbites Exaction Squad!
How to win with Kasrkin in 2023: Play them as Tempestus Scions from the Compendium.
You generate 4 per turning point for a total of 26 per game not 18, 2 no matter what and 2 for leader still being alive.
Just give them 14 operatives ? I really don't understand how James Workshop dropped the ball on them. Or just make their shooting slightly better vs everything.
What tournaments have you been to? You going to nova?
I'll be at Adepticon again!