Billy: "It's an Unfair Game" | Moneyball (Brad Pitt)
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2023
- My dears, Billy (Brad Pitt) finds himself quite frustrated with his team's scouts. It appears they are rather adamant about not altering their viewpoint on how to build the team.
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🎬Moneyball (2011): Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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My dears, I encourage you to watch Billy's Fundraising Challenge to Build a Winning Team: ruclips.net/video/ZQTgZqUqDBw/видео.html
"we need 38 homeruns, 120 RBIs and 47 doubles"
Actually, this guy was already moneyballing 😂
Exactly
"We need 38 homeruns, 120 RBIs and 47 doubles"
This guy was actually close to the correct answer
He was wiser than the others at least he was looking at statistics. Bill James didnt like RBI's are still the most overrated statistic in baseball because the one at bat has no control of who will be on base before he is up to bat. I wondered if that is why they had him bring up RBIs as a reference to bill james' views.
OPS is the golden number if you are to look at only one number to determine a hitters value.
Something funny I've noticed. Not only are the old guys caring about the wrong areas, the speak only in cliches
"Drives it, pops off the bat"
"Classy swing, real clean stroke"
Great writing in this movie
"You can hear it all over the ballpark" - says the guy wearing a hearing aid, lol
“I’m just saying his girlfriend is a 6 at best” jeezle beez there is no mercy in this dojo.
It's like watching mafia goombas discussing physics.
ay tommy this jamoke’s girlfriend’s a dog ah fuhgetabotttttit
"If he's a good hitter why doesn't he hit good". That one statement changed the way I look at a lot of things in life. There's so many overrated things, people, etc in life that are just false when you look at just the facts and nothing else. Good hitters hit good not bad.
That math maths.
I agree, that's why when i looked into crime statistics the world made much more sense. When you cut the crap, you find the answers.
"If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good?"
"He IS a good hitter!"
Bro, how much did these guys get paid for HOW long?!
IDK how long, but Giambi was home grown, and Damon was acquired in a trade. They didn't seem to know how to rebuild a team using scraps. That's the reality of small market ball though; it's arguably the hardest job in American professional sports due to the lack of a salary cap. Teams spend years developing a prospect in their farm system, but have a short window to utilize his talents before he's due for a payday, which a larger market team can offer. Small market teams often end up having to trade a marquee player to avoid losing him for nothing.
I'm a Pirates fan, and at one point we had Gerrit Cole and Andrew McCutchen in his prime. We milked as much as we could out of them into a few play-off appearances, but eventually it was sayonara. It's been a long rebuild ever since, with no funds available to scoop up big name free agents to compliment the young talent.
This isnt real life lol
This is the most perfectly cast scene in the history of cinema
Lets not get crazy here.
@@DrClawizdead my dude, these crusty old turds are exactly who used to run baseball scouting.
"Is there another first baseman like Giambi? And if there was, could we afford him?"
"Then what the FUCK are you talkin' about, man?"
Genuinely, I think any professional who has had to work up from meager means can see this kind of Business School shit in almost any industry; a room full of people who are FEELING and not THINKING.
You nailed it.
‘Clean cut, good face’ ha what does any of that matter?
Same thing that “ugly girlfriend, no confidence” means. Just old baseball beliefs.
thats the whole plot of the movie you just described.
It means he had a strong male role model growing up that played catch with him
In the show “sundeland till I die” one of soccer scouts didn’t like a player bc he wore gloves when it was cold…. I would have fired that scout on the spot.
Because i SAY it matters, son.
Fabio, the shortstop for Seattle. What a player!
A-Rod, lol
Come on seattle, FIGHT AND WIN 😂
@TG-mt6ke won't happen. Seattle is content with selling tickets and making cash from parking lots on game day
He only hit one turkey
His bat had a lot of pop, girlfriend was an eight. But he did not get on base.
" He passes the eye candy test".. these scouts are looking for a boo thang not a damned winning team... 😅😢😅😅😂😂
His gf is a 6
Other scout : time to slide in..
These are definitely the same guys that drafted Coco Crisp, based solely on how amazing of a baseball name that is lol.
They probably would have gone for Milton Bradley too.
@@pjabrony8280Girlfriend is a 6, at best.
We love CoCo out here in Boston
If that worked Dick Pole would be better than 25-37.
Aaaaand here I go down the moneyball clip rabbit hole. Guess its thay time of year lol
You too?
@@jonrowe5478 Glad im not the only one lol
This movie sucks me in too
clips it actually why i watched the full movie. same with 42
Who’s Fabio?
A shortstop from Seattle
Exactly like every meeting on the planet😭
Passes the eye candy test? What does that have to do with the price of cheese?
Attractive people attract fans. Fans spend money. Money pays salaries and keeps the owner happy and team profitable. Baseball isn't just a competitive sport, it's a televised competitive sport. And Wheaties doesn't want someone whose face looks like an obese 50 year old man's out of control hemorrhoids issue. They want someone who looks good on the box. Why? Because then even people who don't know who the hell the person is will go "that's a good looking, athletic person. If I eat wheaties I too can look like that!"
@@Deliriumendyou learnt nothing from the film
@@jettstoyanovich8178 lol. no. Learn to understand context in conversation.
@@Deliriumend no you need to learn to understand that it doesn't effin matter to the team if he is on a Wheaties box because the team isn't selling effin cereal.
By your logic the team should reject somebody like John Kruk (3x Allstar, World Series Ring, .300 lifetime average) because he wasn't ever anything pretty to look at. Furthermore that World Series Ring he won was against Atlanta who (arguably) was a much more physically attractive team than the Phillies that year. There are plenty of other examples that could be given if you want but I don't think that should be necessary.
An attractive ballplayer might draw a few fans to the park for a few games but a World Series victory is going to put way more butts in seats and keep them there for way more games. Even making the playoffs is going to put more butts into seats than having attractive players that can't win.
@ashleighelizabeth5916 no you're still missing the context of his comments and the conversation
The 3rd guy was 100% correct 😅
3:19 😂😂😂😂😂❤
00:25
Look at how upset the scout is when he is called out
To be fair the team selected top players that were not looked by the great teams 🤔
This is the problem with most sports today. Most teams are just there to develope players for the big teams. Thats why people love underdog stories in sport.
Yeah, okay junior.
I just realised but is that wintergreens he is spitting into the cup?
Dip
Who's Fabio?
Fabio ... who is Fabio?. the SS from Cincinnati. hilarious
3:22 🤣😂🤣
I guess to these scouts it doesn’t necessarily matter if they can hit or throw consistently. It matters if they have a “good face”. “Good jaw”. “Looks the part”. 🤦🏻♂️
Pretty much.... than there are the players that are box score stuffers but never can seem to be on winning teams.... That's what stats can only take you so far...
Re-create them in the aggregate.
“Beautiful swing”, if he’s a good hitter, why doesn’t he hit?
Not every hit is convertible not every hit is safe for the same risk... damn Billy, was that a suggestion!
@@SulemanAbbas-jp3im that's why baseball keeps statistics. In the end even a great hitter doesn't bat much above .300 most years. That's also why they have slugging percentage and make note of things like singles and RBIs. In the end if the law of averages say you don't hit well than maybe you don't hit well. There are plenty of other reasons to have a player on the team (aside from pitchers) besides hitting of course. More than one way to build a ballclub as well...
The casting and design was so great. All silver haired old dudes with hearing aids. Really drove home the point
I didn't know John Wayne Gacy liked baseball
I like how he bribed all those umpires.
Love this movie but here again, the dynamics between his wife and him are unnecessary. His daughter is ok, but the wife and that soy boy husband is a waste of time that could have been used talking baseball. Some of the funniest and most interesting discussions I’ve heard and been part of are with old timers talking baseball. Love it!
That is some Shahrukh Khan acting right there.
*RBI's are overrated. It just means the batters before you are good at getting on base.*
It also means you can get a hit when hits are extra necessary.
Never yet seen a player that had a ton of RBIs that couldn't get hits.... not a good one anyway.
@@notmareelnam7545 In 2023, the MLB batting average and OBP were both higher with runners in scoring position than they were with nobody on. For every plate appearance with RISP, MLB hitters got 0.322 RBI. The OBP with nobody on was 0.311. That means an RBI with RISP was more likely than making it to first with nobody on.
There's nothing special about RBIs. If you get people on base consistently, you'll score runs.
Yeah Billy, why don't you just trust the experts?
this aint no game nazzi
The wild shit is this is exactly how teams are run 🤣🤣🤣 Jesus Christ
It might appear wild but it is the coaches trying to chase talent.
Good face. WTF lmao
Good luck convincing an out of touch old person they are old or out of touch
Those old guys are chasing the next big talent. They are looking for potential.
Lol
Can’t hit the curveball
lol what major leaguer can’t hit a curveball
I assume they were talking about potential prospects they could call up from their farm system, rather than players who were already in the majors.
I love how billy in the movie is pretty much shitting on these dudes...yet the A's were really good for a few years
Moneyball, the formula for teams too cheap to put together a World Series roster.
Not necessary. The Rays are a winning team every year cause they have a badass farm system.
@@seanquinn4787
And a shiddy ballpark in a shiddy location. Just like Oakland.
And where is Oakland these days???
On their way to Vegas.
Moneyball destroyed a franchise. Great Job!!!
Ever heard of the Tampa Bay Ray's? You know the tiny market team that competes with the Red Sox and Yankees every year?
No, the owners and the fanbase and the city destroyed the team. Big difference. If it was just Sabermetrics that destroyed the team then why is the football team already in Vegas?
A cheaply owned, cheaply run team. Nothing to see here.
You can run a team cheaply and still be successful but Oakland wasn't run well... Or it hasn't been run well for awhile.
You can run a team for a ton of money and still not put a good product on the field too. The Yankees in the 1980s spent a crap ton of money and never even sniffed a World Series in that decade. Steinbrenner was a lot of unprintable things but he was never just a flat out cheapskate.
if they fired these scouts and relied on numbers they would of saved some money to begin with lol these dudes are saying shit and none of it matters.
Those guys are talking about natural talent that can only be judged by a human eye.