How can a great HC know not much more about offense than Matt Patricia does (after 18 years with Brady)? How could the defense of a great HC routinely collapse in 4th quarters of big games? and couldn’t win even two playoff games?
Another thing. While mac was throwing 5 yrd passes all season his rookie year while his receivers were picking up all the yac mac got the credit. Also in the buffalo game he threw 4 times 3 completions with the run game over 200 & you media clowns still gave mac credit 🤦🏻♂️ Shady & Joy the only ones keeping it real in the media, so far....
he really is I hope they have him on more. This show seems more progressive in the sense that they tend to support the players with their issues. Schlereth feels like a guy thats stuck in the 90s but not in a bad way like some of these older players. Hes a perfect complement to the guys.
Zappe was better than mac, he was better to the eye and to the numbers. Living in new England for my entire life, zappe was just better. I wanted him to start.
So did you forget how they won the super bowl vs he rams without 1 offensive touchdown, And the 1st time they won the Super Bowl versus the rams they scored one touchdown and held the greatest show on turf to 14 points, get off Brady's nuts, stop storing his boneless babies in the back of your throat. They don't win 💩 without the defense. The man literally built 16 seasons worth of top 10 defenses, 8 seasons worth of top 5, 5 seasons worth of top 3 and 3 seasons of the number, but yeah Bill did nothing 😂😂😂😂 m0r0nsq
This. The only real question is if Belichick is willing to bet the rest of his career on Mac Jones. There's a real possibility they finish fourth in their division this year (assuming Tua stays healthy) so tying himself to Mac Jones just doesn't seem smart.
This is the result of losing a “special” player at QB (in Brady’s case arguable the best to ever do it). While I think Brady gets waaaayyy too much credit (he didn’t block, tackle, or catch his own passes but that’s a topic for another day) there is no denying how franchises get impacted by this kind of departure. My 49ers were lucky that Steve was in the wings…..Packers had Rodgers. Most teams that lose a player like that at that position are gonna be hurting and NE is gonna be dealing with this for a good time to come
Tom Brady looked like a competent game manager in his first season....till the playoffs & Superbowl where his intangibles showed up big time. Not saying Mac Jones will ever be a Brady but a young QB needs a great OC, look at Trevor Lawrence with Doug Pederson compared to Urban Meyer.
People keep sayin what is Belichick's record without Brady. What is anyone's record with a bad QB because Mac Jones is a bad QB if he gets a good one an can't win then I get it but the man deserves some grace
If the individual has to go outside of the organization to learn more to grow and learn more, that is a failure on the organization not the individual.
Clarifying some things for casual fans. After watching that all 22 : 1. Patriots roster is elite. Belichick is an underrated GM in the post Brady era. His drafting been on point. 2. Josh McDaniels is a great playcaller. Bill O'Brien is even better 3. Belichick is a below average head coach. Conservative whose conservativism losses you 4-5 games a yr. NFL is 90% offense nowadays. Bill O'Brien is a more valuable asset to a franchise. Belichick is not even a defensive genious anymore with his bend but don't break. Dolphins DC for ex. Is way better with his cover 4. 4. Mac Jones is a backup QB. No better than Zappe tbh. And Zappe got better velocity and pocket presence. 2021 stats were 100% Josh McDaniels work. Colt McCoy could have made those throws. 5. Brady is the best ever. God mode at QB. Peyton is 2nd best. Brady is like a better version of Peyton. Outside of Peyton - Bradys tape embarasses every other QB. From 2003 - 2021 he was easily QB1 on tape. 2022 still top 5. 6. Lamar can't throw very well. Just fast. He is not a top 20 QB. Many Backups throw better. He wouldn't solve the Pats issues even though would be an upgrade. 7. Patricia was not good but was way better and less disfunctional than advertised. A bottom 10 but not a bottom 5 OC. Chargers, Texans and Buccaneers playcalling was way worse. Ran a lot of Concepts Josh McDaniels ran. Thats why Zappe performed. People were getting open. Zappe hit open WRs. Mac struggled to. 8. Got to watch the tape to judge QBs. Stats are a function of the playcaller and help around QB. Tua is the same exact QB he was in 2021 (he still sucks). His stats are due 100% to help and playcalling. As are Garappolos and Purdys. As were Macs in 2021. As were Alex Smiths in 2017 (led the leavue in passer rating) cause GOAT Reid schemes people wide open the most for Insane YAC. Having a top 4 playcaller *CHIEFS GOT THE BEST, 49ers, Dolphins and Lions got elite ones too - is basically PEDs for QB production. Nothing is more important than a grrat playcaller
Belichick has a losing career record (in 10 years) without Brady. There’s probably a REASON for that. What’s Kraft’s record without BRADY vs without Belichick. Just stop, Dicky Wrong.
Robert Kraft is more responsible for the Patriots success than Belichick Kraft turned the culture around here when he bought the team and committed to invest in it
Jesus Nick, THEY CALLED A DIFFERENT SCHEME WHEN ZAPPE WAS IN THE GAME.. Different protections and different variations of playaction making it easier for Zappe. Mac never got the calls Zappe did.
@@MH-dt4ib It's on the game film.. It was a different scheme and it can't be argued. No, they didn't want to only win those games but they coached the game to give Zappe a chance to play well which is what they should do. The question all year was why didn't they do that for Mac.
How are the Patriots going to compete with Jets, Bills and Dolphins if Mac Jones is the QB? Of course they’re shopping him. Should go after Lamar Jackson.
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How can a great HC know not much more about offense than Matt Patricia does (after 18 years with Brady)?
How could the defense of a great HC routinely collapse in 4th quarters of big games? and couldn’t win even two playoff games?
I've been saying it since it happened. Should of kept Cam & picked up a receiver in the draft instead of mac
Another thing. While mac was throwing 5 yrd passes all season his rookie year while his receivers were picking up all the yac mac got the credit.
Also in the buffalo game he threw 4 times 3 completions with the run game over 200 & you media clowns still gave mac credit 🤦🏻♂️
Shady & Joy the only ones keeping it real in the media, so far....
Tough segment for Wildes 😂
😂😂😂
Wildes going through it with this one. 😂
feel for my guy ... lol 😅
Man was suffering
Been a rough 3 years for wildes
Telling Josh McDaniels to get his own team is top tier Wildes 😂😂😂
Poor Wildes, first the Raiders screen graphic ambush then the hair bit, rough day 😂😂
Mark went after him😂😂
Broussard at the end was dying 🤣🤣🤣
Boy, did we hear the real laugh of Chris Broussard there or what?!
@@scottlarock7924 for sure we did man 🤣
Rough segment😢
The Mac stiff arm will never get old🤣
This is something straight out of Nick’s dream 😂😂
That last part by Mark 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea he came for him for sure😂😂
This show is still fire. Best sports show on TV easy
Still? Obviously. Lol. When was there ever a doubt?
“Turn on him, turn on Belichick. Turn on him. Turn on him” 😂😂😂
I was laughing so much at that part
@@zakman6471 same bro I couldn’t hold it together 😂😂😂
I was just picturing Palpatine the whole time saying "DEW IT!" 😂😂
@CanTsar LOL that line is awesome
DEW IT!
The way Chris laughed at the end and the look of Kevin's face is priceless!! 🤣😂🤣😂
Schlereth is a great addition to this already entertaining show. Keep it up guys.
he really is I hope they have him on more. This show seems more progressive in the sense that they tend to support the players with their issues. Schlereth feels like a guy thats stuck in the 90s but not in a bad way like some of these older players. Hes a perfect complement to the guys.
He’s a snow flake donkey
I like him too 💪🏽 keeps things fresh
His word choice is that of a closet racist but I guess
They did wildes so dirty 😭
I would watch a sports show with just Mark on it. He’s phenomenal at talking football and making it relatable to fans.
This Mark's Moms burner phone??🤔😅
I believe he has a radio show in Denver. Sorry I can't give you anymore than that
He barely knows what he’s talking about half the time
My favorite part of this show is hearing the crew in the background laughing
This show is a blast now. The Mac Jones picture is too funny
The people in the background laughing get me every time 🤣
Mark looking like “boy, you better calm down Kevin”
Someone give Wildes a hug for me
Brou is legit dying and wildes “tough segments…” yall killing me 😂
this might be my most favourite segment they’ve ever done🤣🤣🤣
Brou - "I was in Cleveland when Belichick coached the Browns."
Homeboy! 😂
Wildes "rough segment." 😅😅😅
Poor wildes 😂😭 do it again
I don't remember hearing Brou laugh that hard. 😂
The term “baby goat (G.O.A.T.)” makes me smile every time. 😊
You don’t need to fire Belichick as a coach, just fire him as a GM. Get a GM that knows how to draft and let Belichick coach them.
No way would a great coach be as bad in draft as Belidick was.
The fact bill even thinks there’s a market for Mac is crazy
Why isn't there more of a market for Mac? There are a lot of teams that could use a quality backup🤣
He is not good. No teams fear him. NONE
He never was supposed to beat out cam it said a lot about what’s going and why he’s not on a team
The photo returns lmfao
Nick that’s bad that’s so bad 😂😅😂😅😂….man that stiff arm had me rotflol
A+ 10/10 segment, would recommend.
seeing the mac jones picture again 😂
Belichick’s legacy is on the line this season. I don’t blame him for shopping Mac at all at this point. 😭
Zappe was better than mac, he was better to the eye and to the numbers. Living in new England for my entire life, zappe was just better. I wanted him to start.
Agree
*SIMP MUCH* ? 🤦♂️🤣
Maybe that's why Bill wants mac gone
Speaking facts you are
This was great 😂😂
Lets make a Mac/ Lamar trade 😉 Baltimore does love trading with the Pats
Let's see the graphic of Belichiks record without BRADY!!
Tough segment for Wildes 😂😂😂
Poor wildes😢 His hair next show is going too be perfect
I listen to the recording at night while working so I can’t visual see, but I know when Nick brings that Mac play/picture up 😂
please bring on schlereth full time
Nick, you forgot about how he gave up 40+ points to Foles while Brady threw for the most yards in SB history.
So did you forget how they won the super bowl vs he rams without 1 offensive touchdown, And the 1st time they won the Super Bowl versus the rams they scored one touchdown and held the greatest show on turf to 14 points, get off Brady's nuts, stop storing his boneless babies in the back of your throat. They don't win 💩 without the defense. The man literally built 16 seasons worth of top 10 defenses, 8 seasons worth of top 5, 5 seasons worth of top 3 and 3 seasons of the number, but yeah Bill did nothing 😂😂😂😂 m0r0nsq
‘’Mac Jones asks great questions’’ 😂😂😂😂😂 that don’t translate to wins 😂
He probably asks, “how do we win?” Great question Mac. Great question.
*FOOTBALL* 🏈 *IQ* DOES! 🤡
I don't know what it is but this show has got so much better now.
Schlereth is Hella underrated
Knowledge can't give you a better arm 😂😂😂 His rookie year they had the training wheels on him; when he had to throw a lot he couldn't 💯💯💯
This. The only real question is if Belichick is willing to bet the rest of his career on Mac Jones. There's a real possibility they finish fourth in their division this year (assuming Tua stays healthy) so tying himself to Mac Jones just doesn't seem smart.
FACTS
Anyone else think that Kraft might be thinking he kept the wrong one between Bill and Brady? Lol
I’m old enough to remember when the Patriots were a competitive team.
We need a playlist of every time wildes gets hit with the Mac stiff arm image
Belichick should just cut him. Worst full time starter in the league. He was awful as a leader, and abhorrent for his complete lack of followship.
excellent as usual.
Losing sucks. Lol Pats are finding this out the hard way. :)
Lmaooo tough segment for wildes
Poor poor Wildes hahahahaha. Also thanks to Kevin this is the best sports show on tv
Pats fan… Mac isn’t the guy better to move on when he still has value
Exactly!!!!!!
Zappe had no film for defenses to prepare for
👆🏾
Wildes is such a child when he doesn't get the pats way. XD
Bru: "get your swagger back up man!"
Wildes: "..I can't"
😂💀 poor Wildes
This is the result of losing a “special” player at QB (in Brady’s case arguable the best to ever do it). While I think Brady gets waaaayyy too much credit (he didn’t block, tackle, or catch his own passes but that’s a topic for another day) there is no denying how franchises get impacted by this kind of departure. My 49ers were lucky that Steve was in the wings…..Packers had Rodgers. Most teams that lose a player like that at that position are gonna be hurting and NE is gonna be dealing with this for a good time to come
This is pointless unless you’re gonna chase Lamar Jackson.
Tom Brady looked like a competent game manager in his first season....till the playoffs & Superbowl where his intangibles showed up big time. Not saying Mac Jones will ever be a Brady but a young QB needs a great OC, look at Trevor Lawrence with Doug Pederson compared to Urban Meyer.
If belecheck is such a great coach the. Why can't he win with Mac jones
Not one mention that Brady was willing to sign for less because of a certain Super Model. That is a very important detail in this conversation.
Not sure I like how you guys beat up on Wildes this segment 😂
Kevin wildes got that Two Face hair lol
You guys need to buy Wilds a drink after that.
Works every time!
Whiles leaning back and groaning 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭
Jones is perfect for 49s---West Coast----short to mid throws. Debo Will Love Him.
People keep sayin what is Belichick's record without Brady. What is anyone's record with a bad QB because Mac Jones is a bad QB if he gets a good one an can't win then I get it but the man deserves some grace
facts
Wildes having a Skip bayless moment turning on Bill for the QB
He should be traded, the back up is better and on a much cheaper contract i assume.
FACTS
If the individual has to go outside of the organization to learn more to grow and learn more, that is a failure on the organization not the individual.
Replace Nick with Mark please.
Maybe Bill and the owner were arguing about signing Lamar? 🧐🤷♂️
1:49 Wildes tummy be upset lol
Pats/Lions: Mac Jones/Jeff Okudah straight up.
Clarifying some things for casual fans. After watching that all 22 :
1. Patriots roster is elite. Belichick is an underrated GM in the post Brady era. His drafting been on point.
2. Josh McDaniels is a great playcaller. Bill O'Brien is even better
3. Belichick is a below average head coach. Conservative whose conservativism losses you 4-5 games a yr. NFL is 90% offense nowadays. Bill O'Brien is a more valuable asset to a franchise. Belichick is not even a defensive genious anymore with his bend but don't break. Dolphins DC for ex. Is way better with his cover 4.
4. Mac Jones is a backup QB. No better than Zappe tbh. And Zappe got better velocity and pocket presence. 2021 stats were 100% Josh McDaniels work. Colt McCoy could have made those throws.
5. Brady is the best ever. God mode at QB. Peyton is 2nd best. Brady is like a better version of Peyton. Outside of Peyton - Bradys tape embarasses every other QB. From 2003 - 2021 he was easily QB1 on tape. 2022 still top 5.
6. Lamar can't throw very well. Just fast. He is not a top 20 QB. Many Backups throw better. He wouldn't solve the Pats issues even though would be an upgrade.
7. Patricia was not good but was way better and less disfunctional than advertised. A bottom 10 but not a bottom 5 OC. Chargers, Texans and Buccaneers playcalling was way worse. Ran a lot of Concepts Josh McDaniels ran. Thats why Zappe performed. People were getting open. Zappe hit open WRs. Mac struggled to.
8. Got to watch the tape to judge QBs. Stats are a function of the playcaller and help around QB. Tua is the same exact QB he was in 2021 (he still sucks). His stats are due 100% to help and playcalling. As are Garappolos and Purdys. As were Macs in 2021. As were Alex Smiths in 2017 (led the leavue in passer rating) cause GOAT Reid schemes people wide open the most for Insane YAC. Having a top 4 playcaller
*CHIEFS GOT THE BEST, 49ers, Dolphins and Lions got elite ones too - is basically PEDs for QB production. Nothing is more important than a grrat playcaller
Belichick has a losing career record (in 10 years) without Brady. There’s probably a REASON for that. What’s Kraft’s record without BRADY vs without Belichick. Just stop, Dicky Wrong.
God bless everyone and have a good day,.
If its not Lamar, its Mac Jones. Let him have a season with an OC and see what happens.
Every analyst said Mac Jones had a low ceiling when he was drafted 🏈
Bro this dude with the sharp nose got some CRAZY WILD takes 😂
Wildes was validated by mark
Wildes got too many Mac Jones rookie cards.
I'm surprised Nick show has surpassed Colin's... Holy c$%^p man, impressive.
They should have held on to Brady.
Tom Brady & Bucs Absolutely Totally Embarrassed Mahomes & Chiefs in SB "31-9"...Ouch!
Yeah 🎉
Pats fan here. After this season if mac does not evolve, trade him.
You dont wait. loses value. trade him Asap. no teams fear his arm or legs. toss him now
Belichick out Wildes in
Robert Kraft is more responsible for the Patriots success than Belichick Kraft turned the culture around here when he bought the team and committed to invest in it
What would Bradys record be if he was drafted by the Browns? Numbers lie.
Wait. You can't fire Belichick? Says who?
Billicheat genius is called Tom Brady
Jesus Nick, THEY CALLED A DIFFERENT SCHEME WHEN ZAPPE WAS IN THE GAME.. Different protections and different variations of playaction making it easier for Zappe. Mac never got the calls Zappe did.
yeah, they only wanted to win those 2 games that Zappe played... lol
@@MH-dt4ib It's on the game film.. It was a different scheme and it can't be argued. No, they didn't want to only win those games but they coached the game to give Zappe a chance to play well which is what they should do. The question all year was why didn't they do that for Mac.
lol blah blah blah bro hush
@@keithwilbur2589 hush
@Lord Of Faiyum The response of a child or a Troll.
This could be the sign that points to belichick either retires it gets fired if he trades Jones
How are the Patriots going to compete with Jets, Bills and Dolphins if Mac Jones is the QB? Of course they’re shopping him. Should go after Lamar Jackson.