Thank you, Justin. Your exploration and sharing of your experience just saved me from being frustrated with the low end of my new Westone UM Pro 50. I stumbled upon your review to my good fortune, as my disappointment has changed into excitement about the full range fidelity of the UM Pro 50 after using the triple flange Shure ear tips. These iem's are a keeper for sure, thanks to you. Really appreciate it. Thanks a million.
I just ordered the triple flange plugs for my Westone AM 30s. I had the same "tinny treble, lack of bass" experience as you described. Thanks for the tip...
Thank you for the Shure triple flange suggestion. Important note on the triple flange ear tips. YOU CAN CUT THEM SHORTER. I felt like they were sticking into my brain, and found this on the Shure support site: "If the additional depth of the triple-flange sleeve is uncomfortable, the smallest flange can be cut off with a pair of scissors or a utility knife, resulting in a double-flange sleeve that is approximately the same depth as the standard flex sleeves. You can also cut the nozzle end down slightly if you find the earphone sticking too far out of your ear." I cut off one flange on the left ear and also trimmed the shaft a bit on both. Now I have a perfect fit. Sooo happy. Hopefully this helps others. Also snug the sliding cord lock all the way up to the back of your head for minimal movement while playing. Good luck!
With my Shure IEMs, a lot of their benefit is realized when, principally, only the sound from the drivers (speakers) is what you hear, with nil or an absolute minimum of direct ambient sound. So upgrading to the most suitable in-ear fit has gained this essential function of your device. Glad you’ve found a solution to what you really wanted from the Westones; that warm fuzzy all helps when you’ve got reliable kit supporting your playing and performance. Omelette made, then humble pie, respect to you for re-posting chef.
@65 Drums, you hit it right on the nail. How the iem sits in your ear is even more critical than the technology itself. I've also experimented using ear tips from other brands that fit. As you said, an effective way to solve this issue is to do just that or have custom molds made. I currently use the UM Pro 20s and have had no issues for 2 years running. I've been lucky enough to be able to use the "red" coded silicon ear tips that come with the package. They also come in the UM Pro 30 pack as well, and can be bought separately. The thing I like about the "red" code silicon is they are a bit longer than the tips that come installed on the phones. This seats the tip deeper into the ear canal similar to the flanged tips you are using now providing a fuller spectrum of sound. Everyone's ear canals are different, so it makes me happy that Westone provides a full choice of sizes both in foam tips and silicon tips. Thanks for the correction in your review, as I've been thinking to upgrade from the UM Pro 20s to the UM pro 30s. From what you've said, i'm sure they will not disappoint. i use them for both stage monitoring and critical listening on my Macbook Pro.
My God, I wish I had watched tho video before I purchased so many different buds. I never could get happy because I was new to in ears and didn’t realize how important ear tip fit was. Now they all sound good. Lots of money later! Very helpful video!!!!
Awesome video and a great update Justin! I agree, the fit is where the optimum performance can be found with these. Good to hear that you found the right combination for you that worked. Have a blessed and healthy 2019 my friend!
OMG! I bought the triple flanged ear tips and I am amazed at the difference in sound of my AM Pro 30. Everything is crystal clear and I can really hear the bass. I tried the tips that came with the AM Pro 30, but they just didn't fit well in my ear. I agree, GAME CHANGER!
Merry Christmas, Justin! I'm planning on buying a Yamaha DTX-something-or-other in March 2019! That's going to be a late Christmas present to myself. I hope you have a great holiday. God bless you, good sir. :-)
Just bought the same inears, i was searching for treble issues for UM pro 30. And found this vid After changing the plugs into a better fit one, more bass no more treble issues. Thanks for the video !!!
Wow that's some great information right there! I say your next video should be that custom mold for your ear and see how that sounds compared to the in ears you just showed! :)
I've been led to believe that Westone used to make the Shure in ear monitors back in the day. Think I'll be picking up a set of triple flange to try them out on mine...
I was at the Sweetwater store last year and was able to try different in ears. They got a pack of the ear tips out. I did get the UM 30's I love them and the Shure triple flange tips are the way to go!
Agree totally Justin. I tried different tips for a while then found that those shure tips work very well for producing more bass. I also have the quad driver westones and they are superb for edrumming.
Hey Justin, I just got these IEMs today for $220 from the church I serve at who ordered a bunch to got that price. At first I thought they were a bit on the high end of the frequency spectrum but that’s because of the way they fit inside the air canal. You have to have the right fitting for the base to come out. So I tried the biggest pair of those black molds and that seems to work. I also used my custom ear molds and it brought out more of the low end. Thanks for the tip of those Shure triple fittings.
I have used IEM's for over 15 years. Shures, MAudio(Dual) and currently on custom molds made for Westone UM3 , but before them I used the absolute best ear tips, which are the Comply Pro(P-Series). Longer memory foam tips that really make a great seal. Better than the silicone triple flanges IMHO. Also, be sure that no part of your ear buds(the hard plastic parts) touch your ear. You want to decouple the buds from your ear, kind of have them float in your ear cannal Otherwise you will hear a lot of microphonics which will ruin your experience. Having a great seal along with using both buds is essential. Yes, people try and use one bud, but have trouble getting it loud enough. Either both in or dont use them. You can do damage to your ear and the bud by cranking up the one ear bud enough.
I had the Westone UM 20 pros for awhile but ended up selling them because their sensitivity was such that I could hear background electronic noise hiss through my module (mimic pro).
Hey man, loving your channel. I was wondering if you could review the Millennium MPS 850? Seems like good value but i don't know about it. Could be interesting. Keep up the good work!
I have Ultimate Ears hand craftet for my ears. They fit perfect. OK it was 1000 € for this pair. But you cant get a better fit. The sound is ultra clear. I have the UE7....the ones that are recommanded for bass and drums. I bought it for drums in the first place. They are 3 way. But compared to my regular Roland Headphone they're lagging in bass tone. I always have the feeling that my drums not sounding thick and good. This effects my playing. I tried them now with my bass guitar. And wow. This is what they are made for. After all. For drums they are not good enough. Now I will try cheaper ones with regular plugs. Buying the top level priced devices is not always the solution.
Looks like you don't answer questions but ill try any how,..Can these protect my ears from my very loud drummer??? I see you have rubber on your cymbals. Think breaking sticks loud
Just remember if you haven't thought about this already. The AM series is designed to let more ambient outside sound in than the UM's which are designed for sound isolation.
Did you try the large tips (foam or silicon) they come with? If they don't work, the best thing to do is go to an audiologist or a store that can make custom molds for you.
Hey dude that's awesome congrats on the job! I'm really sad to say I lost my Westones. I can't believe I did though, they come in a freaking orange box lol. I've switched to a cheaper brand for now, but at some point I might need to get the good stuff again.
Well I got the triple flange, and in my opinion the Am Pro 30s still sound like shit. I have a good seal and have plenty of bass, but the sound just lacks any fidelity. They sound like listening to a low bitrate mp3 from the early 2000s. I am so pissed that I dropped 300.00 on these things than sound worse than my 50.00 CCA C12 consumer IEMS. Granted I sing and play guitar, so I need that fidelity to hear what my voice is doing, but man. Listening to music off my phone is just a terrible experience. Wasted money I could have used on guitar gear.
Amazon has a “six pack” of Shure triple-flange tips for $11.00 - is there more than one style/size/model available? Your video doesn’t show and item # on the packaging and no UPC or anything is listed in your comments (that I can find, anyway). I am pretty “shure” that Amazon won’t let me return these waxy b*stards either. Help!
Thank you, Justin. Your exploration and sharing of your experience just saved me from being frustrated with the low end of my new Westone UM Pro 50. I stumbled upon your review to my good fortune, as my disappointment has changed into excitement about the full range fidelity of the UM Pro 50 after using the triple flange Shure ear tips. These iem's are a keeper for sure, thanks to you. Really appreciate it. Thanks a million.
I just ordered the triple flange plugs for my Westone AM 30s. I had the same "tinny treble, lack of bass" experience as you described. Thanks for the tip...
Thank you for the Shure triple flange suggestion. Important note on the triple flange ear tips. YOU CAN CUT THEM SHORTER. I felt like they were sticking into my brain, and found this on the Shure support site:
"If the additional depth of the triple-flange sleeve is uncomfortable, the smallest flange can be cut off with a pair of scissors or a utility knife, resulting in a double-flange sleeve that is approximately the same depth as the standard flex sleeves. You can also cut the nozzle end down slightly if you find the earphone sticking too far out of your ear."
I cut off one flange on the left ear and also trimmed the shaft a bit on both. Now I have a perfect fit. Sooo happy. Hopefully this helps others. Also snug the sliding cord lock all the way up to the back of your head for minimal movement while playing. Good luck!
With my Shure IEMs, a lot of their benefit is realized when, principally, only the sound from the drivers (speakers) is what you hear, with nil or an absolute minimum of direct ambient sound. So upgrading to the most suitable in-ear fit has gained this essential function of your device. Glad you’ve found a solution to what you really wanted from the Westones; that warm fuzzy all helps when you’ve got reliable kit supporting your playing and performance. Omelette made, then humble pie, respect to you for re-posting chef.
@65 Drums, you hit it right on the nail. How the iem sits in your ear is even more critical than the technology itself. I've also experimented using ear tips from other brands that fit. As you said, an effective way to solve this issue is to do just that or have custom molds made. I currently use the UM Pro 20s and have had no issues for 2 years running. I've been lucky enough to be able to use the "red" coded silicon ear tips that come with the package. They also come in the UM Pro 30 pack as well, and can be bought separately. The thing I like about the "red" code silicon is they are a bit longer than the tips that come installed on the phones. This seats the tip deeper into the ear canal similar to the flanged tips you are using now providing a fuller spectrum of sound. Everyone's ear canals are different, so it makes me happy that Westone provides a full choice of sizes both in foam tips and silicon tips. Thanks for the correction in your review, as I've been thinking to upgrade from the UM Pro 20s to the UM pro 30s. From what you've said, i'm sure they will not disappoint. i use them for both stage monitoring and critical listening on my Macbook Pro.
My God, I wish I had watched tho video before I purchased so many different buds. I never could get happy because I was new to in ears and didn’t realize how important ear tip fit was. Now they all sound good. Lots of money later! Very helpful video!!!!
Awesome video and a great update Justin! I agree, the fit is where the optimum performance can be found with these. Good to hear that you found the right combination for you that worked.
Have a blessed and healthy 2019 my friend!
Cool review Justin!! Still neat to see you went back and tried them out again!!
OMG! I bought the triple flanged ear tips and I am amazed at the difference in sound of my AM Pro 30. Everything is crystal clear and I can really hear the bass. I tried the tips that came with the AM Pro 30, but they just didn't fit well in my ear. I agree, GAME CHANGER!
I'm glad to hear this. I just got my AM Pro 30s and I don't like any of the tips that came with them.
I just bought them from Sweetwater due to this video. Thanks for the helpful info Justin! Great content.
Merry Christmas, Justin! I'm planning on buying a Yamaha DTX-something-or-other in March 2019! That's going to be a late Christmas present to myself. I hope you have a great holiday. God bless you, good sir. :-)
Just bought the same inears, i was searching for treble issues for UM pro 30. And found this vid
After changing the plugs into a better fit one, more bass no more treble issues.
Thanks for the video !!!
Wow that's some great information right there! I say your next video should be that custom mold for your ear and see how that sounds compared to the in ears you just showed! :)
I've been led to believe that Westone used to make the Shure in ear monitors back in the day.
Think I'll be picking up a set of triple flange to try them out on mine...
I was at the Sweetwater store last year and was able to try different in ears. They got a pack of the ear tips out. I did get the UM 30's I love them and the Shure triple flange tips are the way to go!
Agree totally Justin. I tried different tips for a while then found that those shure tips work very well for producing more bass. I also have the quad driver westones and they are superb for edrumming.
Thanks Kelly! I want to try those some day :)
a great video as always, Justin! thank you for all of your informative and entertaining videos throughout 2018 :)
I guess in-ears are like the underwear of electronic devices. You can't return those either.
Hey Justin, I just got these IEMs today for $220 from the church I serve at who ordered a bunch to got that price.
At first I thought they were a bit on the high end of the frequency spectrum but that’s because of the way they fit inside the air canal. You have to have the right fitting for the base to come out. So I tried the biggest pair of those black molds and that seems to work. I also used my custom ear molds and it brought out more of the low end.
Thanks for the tip of those Shure triple fittings.
Nice review! Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas!
I have used IEM's for over 15 years. Shures, MAudio(Dual) and currently on custom molds made for Westone UM3 , but before them I used the absolute best ear tips, which are the Comply Pro(P-Series). Longer memory foam tips that really make a great seal. Better than the silicone triple flanges IMHO. Also, be sure that no part of your ear buds(the hard plastic parts) touch your ear. You want to decouple the buds from your ear, kind of have them float in your ear cannal Otherwise you will hear a lot of microphonics which will ruin your experience. Having a great seal along with using both buds is essential. Yes, people try and use one bud, but have trouble getting it loud enough. Either both in or dont use them. You can do damage to your ear and the bud by cranking up the one ear bud enough.
0:34 that sound effect tho 😂 😂
Glad someone appreciated that
Dang! What a great follow up!! That's the way to do it!!
Triple flange is the way! I've been using them for years...
Love them
I had the Westone UM 20 pros for awhile but ended up selling them because their sensitivity was such that I could hear background electronic noise hiss through my module (mimic pro).
That's very interesting
Cool, i think i have the same problem with my SE215. Will give triple flange a chance.
Mery Christmas Justin (advanced)
Does it HAVE to be the shure ones you listed, or do any comparable triple flange tips work?
Any difference in sound of the new Westone Pro X30 ?
Great video!
Thanks!
Hey man, loving your channel. I was wondering if you could review the Millennium MPS 850? Seems like good value but i don't know about it. Could be interesting. Keep up the good work!
I'd love to, but it's mostly just sold in Europe, so I might never see one in person
65 Drums thanks for replying, and true that. Do you think it’s worth it from what you’ve seen? Its bot going to last 10 years but what do you think?
I just bought a set of these. Any chance you could link those eartips so I know the ones I get will fit the IEM's? Thanks.
I have Ultimate Ears hand craftet for my ears. They fit perfect. OK it was 1000 € for this pair. But you cant get a better fit. The sound is ultra clear. I have the UE7....the ones that are recommanded for bass and drums. I bought it for drums in the first place. They are 3 way. But compared to my regular Roland Headphone they're lagging in bass tone. I always have the feeling that my drums not sounding thick and good. This effects my playing. I tried them now with my bass guitar. And wow. This is what they are made for. After all. For drums they are not good enough. Now I will try cheaper ones with regular plugs. Buying the top level priced devices is not always the solution.
Is there a major difference from westone pro 30s to the westone pro 50 ?
I am looking for a pair of in-ear’s for my electronic kit... should I get these?
I use westone tips in my shure 215’s 👍😂
I like their sound but mine have been sent back for repair 3 times. No more Westone for me.
Dunu dk3001 / westorn um pro 30 which ic best
Are these the shure universal fit?
I don't like in ear headphones cause i just don't like putting shit in my ears,good review though
Do you know the name of the company or maybe a link for the custom molded tips? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
I found this to be helpful. www.headphonesty.com/2018/04/ultimate-guide-selecting-perfect-iem-ear-buds-tips/
Looks like you don't answer questions but ill try any how,..Can these protect my ears from my very loud drummer??? I see you have rubber on your cymbals. Think breaking sticks loud
Which model Shure tips are those? I see several options when searching for them. I am about to order the AM30’s. Hope I am not sorry !
Just remember if you haven't thought about this already. The AM series is designed to let more ambient outside sound in than the UM's which are designed for sound isolation.
Albert Kohn I already have them and the am’s are exactly what I was looking for !!!! Thx
has westone been advised?
A problem I've had with in ears in the past is them falling out while im playing. Do these have a pretty tight fit? Thanks
Get triple flange silicon ear tips, that will make ANY inears stay in
will these fit on mackie mp220?
Are you sure you are close enough to the camera? I can still see some things behind you.
In ear fit is critical
I tried the Shure tips and they didn’t fit my ears at all. Evidently I have huge ear holes LOL
Did you try the large tips (foam or silicon) they come with? If they don't work, the best thing to do is go to an audiologist or a store that can make custom molds for you.
Can I use these for the Westone 20s?
Yes I believe so
Fast forward 3 years and now i work at westone lol. I remember this video. Hmu if any of u want 20% off
Hey dude that's awesome congrats on the job! I'm really sad to say I lost my Westones. I can't believe I did though, they come in a freaking orange box lol. I've switched to a cheaper brand for now, but at some point I might need to get the good stuff again.
ㅐㅌㅣㅣㅇ ~ I'm using all new umpro50. I like the soft westone sound.
Westone is so nice, I love mine. I haven't used the 50s yet, I'm sure they are great though
So the tips legit make the difference? What the hell? Huh... I guess I'll give it a shot.
True, the way the tips seats in your ear canal is even more critical than the technology itself.
Well I got the triple flange, and in my opinion the Am Pro 30s still sound like shit. I have a good seal and have plenty of bass, but the sound just lacks any fidelity. They sound like listening to a low bitrate mp3 from the early 2000s. I am so pissed that I dropped 300.00 on these things than sound worse than my 50.00 CCA C12 consumer IEMS. Granted I sing and play guitar, so I need that fidelity to hear what my voice is doing, but man. Listening to music off my phone is just a terrible experience. Wasted money I could have used on guitar gear.
Amazon has a “six pack” of Shure triple-flange tips for $11.00 - is there more than one style/size/model available? Your video doesn’t show and item # on the packaging and no UPC or anything is listed in your comments (that I can find, anyway). I am pretty “shure” that Amazon won’t let me return these waxy b*stards either. Help!
IDK... I have Westones and Shures and have used both live... The Westones just cannot compare unfortunately (however, I'm a vocalist not a drummer)
Dave Carsley Four of our five band members use Westones... one uses Shures.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CWTZLSC/ These sound great so I wonder how much better the UM-Pro is
I just bought them, I'll probably make a video on them
You were not wrong. You should not have to buy eartips from another manufacturer to make them sound good to you.
How much do they pay you
I spent $300ish bucks to buy these. Think of a more original comment next time