Every turret versus the Core (Maximum Damage Edition) | Mindustry

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • This is not a repost, just to be clear.
    Pretty much every turrets versus the core, but it's remade so that every turrets could use their strongest ammo ang equipped with Cyrofluid. This is for those that wanted me to do this because of ammo imbalance in the previous video. The results are much more different surprisingly.
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  • @Le_Mayo
    @Le_Mayo Год назад +72

    Maybe the small tirrets are so good because you put FOUR OF THEM

    • @I_googoogaga
      @I_googoogaga 7 месяцев назад +10

      I think he did it so cuz one big turret is at least 2x2 space and in that space you can fit 4 small turrets

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Год назад +75

    2:50 if you used 4 lancers like you did with 4 arcs it would be at about 8s.... lancers arent overused, they are actually really good

    • @ew0858
      @ew0858 Год назад +7

      This is 100% true, 1 lancer won't do much, but 2 lancerns can do way more than you expect

    • @Digi404_but_stupid
      @Digi404_but_stupid Год назад +2

      @@ew0858 fr, im still gonna spam lancers earlygame if i have energy

    • @ew0858
      @ew0858 Год назад +1

      @@Digi404_but_stupid its a good strategy anyway

    • @Digi404_but_stupid
      @Digi404_but_stupid Год назад +1

      @@ew0858 the fact they can pierce is really strong

    • @leschatssuperstars1741
      @leschatssuperstars1741 11 месяцев назад

      + with a good buffer, it can shoot a lot without killing your production@@Digi404_but_stupid

  • @Tunnaaa.75
    @Tunnaaa.75 2 года назад +69

    now try max firerate spectre, using cryo, graphite, and boosters. your screen might have a earthquake ngl

    • @darkanimation4629
      @darkanimation4629 2 года назад +10

      What about Cyclon with this booster

    • @uncannycato
      @uncannycato Год назад

      siligone is most powerfull at start

    • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
      @user-zc2ks7pd3d Год назад +3

      Silicon cryo salvo is faster. It is literally a machine gun

    • @BugWaffle
      @BugWaffle Год назад +1

      HAHA, FULLY BOOSTED FUSE GOES BBBBBBBBBBBBBBAM

    • @epikgamer965
      @epikgamer965 Год назад +1

      Haha

  • @singularitytr1550
    @singularitytr1550 Год назад +19

    This was a little while ago but all these can be faster if you add MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE. Then don't forget that anything that uses surge alloy can have water added to the target to do even more damage.

    • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
      @user-zc2ks7pd3d Год назад +1

      It can be even faster if you use navanax with logic to support it. It can overdrive things to 300% when it shoots them. Which is more than overdrive dome AND boosted overdrive projector.

  • @TheLittleLeoP
    @TheLittleLeoP 2 года назад +105

    You made the people that were mad about ammo imbalance from the last turret video calm down, but now they're roasting you for saying that cyclones are big hails
    Pain

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 года назад +8

      Idk why this keeps happening lol

    • @UnknownZYX_4085
      @UnknownZYX_4085 2 года назад +1

      lol

    • @pankekboi8511
      @pankekboi8511 2 года назад +4

      @@ZymerBoy cyclone looks like small foreshadow

    • @dragonf1recdn
      @dragonf1recdn Год назад +7

      @@pankekboi8511 Cyclones are actually big scatters. everyone knows this.

    • @pankekboi8511
      @pankekboi8511 Год назад +2

      @@dragonf1recdn ok, i just think the colors are similar

  • @00001Htheprogrammer
    @00001Htheprogrammer 2 года назад +22

    Why lancer spam isn't that bad:
    1. Damage in a row(may hit 10 or more if attacking things like daggers)
    2. Crawler can't outrun it if you make a choke point so they have to move directly towards your lancer, not sideways
    3. With cryo their firerate can be pretty good
    4. Looks good

    • @exa0710
      @exa0710 2 года назад +1

      Use "-" for strikethrough, like this:
      -Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down-

    • @00001Htheprogrammer
      @00001Htheprogrammer 2 года назад +2

      @@exa0710 Ik, but I am a programmer

    • @oogaooga0000
      @oogaooga0000 2 года назад +5

      ​@@00001Htheprogrammer time for the 🤓

    • @fishstick1900
      @fishstick1900 2 года назад +1

      Also no nova cheese as those and hails are basically the only early game things that can outrange them and hails are weak enough that novas can just get a few shots before healing or just run them down (unless they changed something in v7)

    • @christerarnoldbordon9129
      @christerarnoldbordon9129 Год назад

      I agree, it's great at clearing chaff and finishing off heavily damaged high-tier enemies in the early game

  • @darkanimation4629
    @darkanimation4629 2 года назад +49

    Who enter the video to see Cyclon with surg

  • @AbielAurelius
    @AbielAurelius Год назад +3

    Fun fact pair 2 wave/tsunamis and one of them will have slag and the other has oil, and you got yourself burning spray paint.

  • @juliodebarrosdahora3019
    @juliodebarrosdahora3019 2 года назад +34

    It's actually possible to use liquid turrets, u just need to use a turret with petroleum and another turret with slag

  • @calamitalcomputers
    @calamitalcomputers 11 месяцев назад +3

    Foreshadow deals very low building damage, but eradicates enemies when super buffed

  • @alexmendez7460
    @alexmendez7460 2 года назад +4

    Misspelled hail in cyclone section,i think it's scatter what you meaned.
    Still bonkers the time it took

  • @darkanimation4629
    @darkanimation4629 2 года назад +6

    But l think the secret of Cyclon is the shocke
    damage

  • @sicarved
    @sicarved 2 года назад +11

    You forgor overdome and turret synergies 💀

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 года назад +10

      I think I mentioned in the video that I won't be using overdomes. Turret synergies, I don't know any of those sadly

    • @user-uu6xz6lk6o
      @user-uu6xz6lk6o 2 года назад +5

      @@ZymerBoy Turret synergies is "surge cyclone+water tsunami" for example, "Shocked" effect does a lot of damage

    • @user-uu6xz6lk6o
      @user-uu6xz6lk6o 2 года назад +2

      @@ZymerBoy or "oil tsunami+slag tsunami", this one is also good

    • @haphung2064
      @haphung2064 2 года назад +1

      @@ZymerBoy you can See all synergies in core database

  • @rapidfirevestige
    @rapidfirevestige Год назад +2

    i watched this long time ago and i forgot to say some turret have less building damage
    like lancer

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Год назад +1

    4 surge swarmers with coolant boost

  • @finaltheory778
    @finaltheory778 2 года назад +4

    Arcs have almost 2 times more power use per tile, but it turns out arcs do better than the lancers

    • @kristyandesouza5980
      @kristyandesouza5980 2 года назад +3

      Instead of using a lot of expensive cryo for all the arcs, use water for about 1,8 times the damage with a liquid turret, and the problem with energy is solved

  • @dot2810
    @dot2810 2 года назад +8

    in v7 (build 135.2) pyratite ammo got buffed

    • @dangductran2926
      @dangductran2926 Год назад +1

      Yea pyratite salvo is stronger than thorium now.
      Edit 1:Not like pyratite spectre is better than thorium spectre tho.
      Edit 2: Wait pyratite is actually better. Thorium is the weak one now in term of single target dps.

  • @Some_random_person1213
    @Some_random_person1213 Год назад +1

    I saw a text saying the core was cooked for dinner in nearly 7 seconds

  • @kristyandesouza5980
    @kristyandesouza5980 2 года назад

    Thanks for this second video

  • @akiraluiompod667
    @akiraluiompod667 3 месяца назад +2

    Bro the strongest ammo for salvo is silicon since it turns the salvo into a minigun

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Год назад +1

    Foreshadow shoots at any ranges and scathe too!

  • @Msadr14
    @Msadr14 2 года назад +4

    5:20 cyclone is not big hail

  • @tanphamnhat969
    @tanphamnhat969 Год назад +2

    6:54 as you can see, the foreshadow deal less dmg to building aka you are not bamboolzed, just because it used for the wrong purpose

    • @Hydro123s
      @Hydro123s Год назад +1

      He is bamboozled because he thought it would deal higher damage from farther away ^^.

  • @selok91
    @selok91 Год назад +1

    bro really compared 4 arc's to 1 lancer and said that lancer is bad

  • @ZymerBoy
    @ZymerBoy  2 года назад +15

    Last time, I misread the Spectre turret as the Reign unit. Now Cyclone is apparently a big version of Hail. Yes. 5:20
    I guess this is what happens when you always keep making videos at literally midnight. E

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 года назад +1

      What mods did you use? Like the invincibility.

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 года назад

      E

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 года назад

      Units next?

    • @water1705
      @water1705 2 года назад

      eh same thing

    • @dangductran2926
      @dangductran2926 Год назад

      You should try salvo again with pyratite, it is faster than thorium (literally 1 second faster without booster)

  • @abulletant1147
    @abulletant1147 2 года назад

    Any sort of way I can deal with some sectors? Because they leave me with limited ore.

  • @luhcsgrimm8857
    @luhcsgrimm8857 Год назад +1

    Let's also consider range. Everything is balanced around that. Also lancers aren't overused. While one mat be slower than 4 arcs, the range is higher. And 4 landers would shred

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Год назад +1

    some turrets are good at close range 1v1s, like meltdowns, they were made to handle crowd spams

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Год назад +1

    2 surge cyclones with coolant boost

  • @Bruhman-zq5tk
    @Bruhman-zq5tk Год назад +2

    what is the mod for showing the strength of objects? Tell me please😭😭😭

  • @chips2786
    @chips2786 2 года назад +2

    Now do erekir turrets

  • @seriatekata2375
    @seriatekata2375 2 года назад

    Heya Zymer it’s me lunatic (aka fortunata) on another account got bored while watching stuff so decided to see what you were doing

  • @thegreattwintank2018
    @thegreattwintank2018 4 месяца назад +1

    Scorch used to look like that?

  • @BP--
    @BP-- 2 года назад +1

    MAX possible attack speed for all turrets

  • @johnstevenmospa1671
    @johnstevenmospa1671 29 дней назад

    I like using salvo because it's pretty much just a bigger and better duo, i love to put cryo of fluid and max out its fire rate it cause looks like a fricki'n machine gun

  • @voidheart069
    @voidheart069 Год назад +1

    @ZymerBoy in your about section you said you won't say anything about from what country you came from and I'm guessing it's philippines since there is THAT word in your description that gave it away right? (ang).

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  7 месяцев назад +1

      Shhhhh, be quiet now......

    • @voidheart069
      @voidheart069 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZymerBoy ok

  • @STEALT_BLADE
    @STEALT_BLADE 7 месяцев назад +1

    forgot about overdrive

  • @boyboy1895
    @boyboy1895 Год назад +1

    Override dome?

  • @errorerror713
    @errorerror713 Год назад +1

    Bonus?

  • @tomp23cz44
    @tomp23cz44 Год назад

    what about the towers from V7?

  • @dangductran2926
    @dangductran2926 Год назад

    I'm not sure if it because V7 is different, but pyratite salvo is actually stronger than thorium. Just tested it and it is confirmed.
    When used with no cryo against a core, pyratite salvo finished about 2 second faster.
    Thorium is now the worst ammo for spectre in term of single targer dps, graphite now only deal 50 damage, but is 70% faster, 170% of 50 is 85, so it deal more dps than thorium (verified), it does not have piercing tho. Pyratite is now the strongest ammo, dealing 70 direct plus an additional 20 area damage, result in 90, higher than thorium, and have the same piercing. The only advantage thorium has now is that it can be used directly from the drill.

  • @cerberusslavomiraarus1308
    @cerberusslavomiraarus1308 2 года назад +1

    Now overdrive domes

  • @takidzenani5544
    @takidzenani5544 2 года назад +1

    Why lancer is 1

  • @ItsartoTV
    @ItsartoTV Месяц назад

    Some turrets do lower damage to buildings that's whu some were worse than others

  • @ee-kk9wr
    @ee-kk9wr 2 года назад +3

    now do it with units

  • @ZeolanRed
    @ZeolanRed Год назад +1

    Spectre is a bigger salvo

  • @Blitzs02
    @Blitzs02 Год назад

    Hmm Seems Like I Understimated Cyclone

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Год назад +1

    again, this isnt a fair test since you used 4 of the smaller turrets...

  • @user-ph4sy9pm3f
    @user-ph4sy9pm3f 3 месяца назад

    You forgot to put an overdrive dome

  • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
    @user-zc2ks7pd3d Год назад

    Why did you use just 1 lancer

  • @Runerobot
    @Runerobot Год назад +1

    Cooking core 1:10

  • @ultimaterzgaming1269
    @ultimaterzgaming1269 2 года назад

    try using a overdrive dome :trol:

  • @catland88
    @catland88 Год назад

    bro i feel like the lancers range is a factor you arent taking into account

  • @YourBestFriend1118
    @YourBestFriend1118 Год назад +2

    in v7, the turret that has most dps is a swarmer, with surge ammo, cryo, and a dome it is able to reach over 4k damage per second, more if the target is wet

    • @touristofsongs4946
      @touristofsongs4946 Год назад

      Cyclones are a lot better. Swarmer is weak against t5 if you dont give it water (Cyclone as well, but cyclone area damage is WAY MORE higher that swarmer)

    • @YourBestFriend1118
      @YourBestFriend1118 Год назад

      @@touristofsongs4946 you are wrong in fact, they aren't weak vs t5 without water, they are effective by themselves, also let's be real, who normal places a single swarmer without cryo and overdrive (and water tsunami) to fight a t5

  • @Amrik2010
    @Amrik2010 2 года назад

    Can I ask for the mods used in this video?

    • @Amrik2010
      @Amrik2010 2 года назад

      Yes, I play with mods

  • @TheMan-et3xz
    @TheMan-et3xz Месяц назад

    i use spore pod kamakazi tactic to deal with enemy cores

  • @rocketman7254
    @rocketman7254 2 года назад

    6:06 almost my time it's 730 am

  • @N.l.G.G.A
    @N.l.G.G.A Год назад

    Ey you forgot the overclock

  • @phen1811
    @phen1811 Год назад

    maximum damage would have the overdrive thing

  • @ethanbayeta7557
    @ethanbayeta7557 2 года назад

    Just use an overdrive dome

  • @nerfjanetreal
    @nerfjanetreal Год назад

    lancer is good,the best rush turret in terms of range

  • @astroturf7802
    @astroturf7802 2 года назад +1

    7:45 E

  • @UnknownZYX_4085
    @UnknownZYX_4085 2 года назад

    Swarmer op

  • @boblol1465
    @boblol1465 2 года назад

    3:14
    time to spam arcs

  • @colboy123
    @colboy123 2 года назад +1

    The reasons you are against lancers are laughable. I agree they are overused. But I do not agree bc of your reasons. Expensive? I have no idea how you lack enough silicon to build just a few of these. A crawler could outrun it? Why would you design your defences so that would happen? That’s like saying a scatter is bad bc it died to ground units. And third; yes, other turrets could be stronger. But as the lancer only uses water, it doesn’t need conveyor belts. Yes they need some nodes, but saying that’s a major downside is childish. And you can’t deny that if the enemies walk in a straight line, then the lancer WILL take them with crowd control capabilities at a range

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  Год назад

      I'm pretty sure I'm over exaggerating. Lancers still good though

  • @Merkary
    @Merkary Год назад +1

    For the specter, the ammo with the highest DPS is actually graphite, not thorium.

    • @Ransa_abil
      @Ransa_abil Год назад

      Blast compound is better

    • @karmdeez911
      @karmdeez911 Год назад

      @@Ransa_abil specter cant take blast compound ain't it?

    • @Ransa_abil
      @Ransa_abil Год назад

      @karmdeez995 My bad, pyrotite is better

  • @flamesghost9418
    @flamesghost9418 2 года назад

    You only placed one lancer the time is actually ÷4

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 года назад

      I have to say if you start with 4 do it with EVERYTHING it is a equalisation not 1=4

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 года назад

      1:1

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 года назад

      But yeah i overreacted... you as a viewer could just divide it by 4

  • @smudgycat6750
    @smudgycat6750 Год назад +1

    Wasn't. Fair test, you used 1 lancer

  • @v1_the_ultrakiller
    @v1_the_ultrakiller Год назад +1

    SCORCH IS BEST

  • @rkid246gameplay3
    @rkid246gameplay3 Год назад

    Try reactor💀

  • @00001Htheprogrammer
    @00001Htheprogrammer 2 года назад +1

    yours grammar are no very better
    The mistakes heer is intention.
    For examples: "more faster"

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 года назад +2

      A child's writing basically

    • @pota2s561
      @pota2s561 2 года назад

      it hurts me that you're the trying to criticize grammar while having the grammar equivalent to an 8-year-old

  • @radicalmancays910
    @radicalmancays910 2 года назад +2

    E

  • @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
    @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 Год назад +1

    lancer spamming saves you in the mid and early late game where if you conserve a little you can prevent dying to siligone and combustion gens with coal are your lifeblood
    but yes early and late game never spam lancer even if you don't die to siligone
    *_I am about to mass produce Swarmers._*

  • @FahrurRoziqin
    @FahrurRoziqin 2 года назад

    halo bang