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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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I've had my Gretsch Duo Jet for about 9 years now, and during that time...I've always struggled to bond with it. In my head, I knew what I wanted it to sound like, and I've been through several different sets of Filter'Trons chasing that sound. A set of low-output vintage-correct 'Trons got me close...but it still wasn't quite there.
Come to find out...the sound I was actually chasing was a Gretsch with Dynasonics..!! As soon as I put the @TVJones1 T-Armonds in, the sound I've been after was right there. Today, I wanted to do a quick demo of these pickups - clean through the amp; and also with a selection of fun pedals to get some more interesting sounds going on.
What do you think? Clarity and bite for days? Or not for you? Comment below!
Guitar recorded through a Dr Z Z-Wreck (Celestion AlNiCo Gold; Aston Spirit Condenser, sE R1 Ribbon and '70s Sennheiser MD441) with a Schoeps CMC6 room mic.
joeperkinsmusic
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Sounds awesome. Especially when you kicked in the slapback
Aren’t Dynasonics the most underrated pickups ever? They sound so great! Great video.
I’ve been waiting for a long time for this video to come out.
That slapback tone with the analog.man pedals is killer!
Cool tones :) Gretsch recently released a player's edition DS with dynasonic too so great timing!
These Gretsch with Dynasonics thru a Jcm Marshall are the best 👌 awesome sound.. CTS POTS OH YEAH.. SCREAAAAAAAMIN
I have a g5129 and 28 I run through a modded showman. Line 6 delay. It’s a perfect tone. My 50 watt JMP didn’t work as well. It’s better with Gibson.
Man that just sounds great with the Revival Drive Joe! Nice work man!
Cheers pal!
I Think I will install my T Armonds in my LP
To me, the combo Duo Jet/DeArmond is just perfect.
I would love to hear some fuzz with your Gretsch though. I think you nailed the correct vintage pot value and i'm curious to hear this combination into a tonebenderish fuzz or which ever variation of fuzz you prefer
I'll try to stick a fuzz on it soon :-)
Good demonstration of these pickups. It seems, they could be the solution of my problem, to find the real aggressive Rockabilly sound. But they are out of my budget. Hopefully I'll find an affordable version of these.
I think these are what my gretsch needs. I think I have the same problem you had. Thanks!
To me it sounds like the forgotten Rickenbacker 430, NICE!
great sounds from every angle of this video
Such good pickups :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic indeed, the middle position gives me chills.
Awesome pups. Nice musical demo. Very articulate and tasteful playing. 👍🏻🎸
Thanks Barry! :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic hi Joe. I’ve never seen this control layout on a lefty Gretsch with the mud switch but no tone pot. What specific model is this?
@@cody3078 It's a c.2010 Gretsch (Historic Spec) G6128T - I _believe_ the ones with tone pots are the Player's Editions
@@JoePerkinsMusic thanks! Where do you buy your lefty guitars? I’d love to find something like this but it is SO challenging to find good lefty guitars.
Love these sounds
Great demo as usual.👏🏻👏🏻
I recently replaced the mud switch on a jet with a no-load tone pot. Fits right in there and works really well.
That's a really good idea :-) Unless you're swapping the caps out, the mud switch is pretty useless! :P
@@JoePerkinsMusic Thanks. It worked out really well. The wiring was there, the hole was there, I only had to solder in the pot+cap. The no-load mode copies the switch’s middle position. And the pot allows me to subtly dial out the excessive highs of a set of bright HS trons on a lovely orange G6121 jet, by ear.
Excellent mods.
Love for the Dynasonics! Several years ago I picked up a Guild DeArmond M75T in metal flake blue, with a pair of those pickups. I’d never seen them before, and I took them apart just to figure out how to adjust the pole pieces! 😂 It’s one of my favorite and sweetest guitars.
Really appreciate the pedal pictures in the screen's corner. I will have to replay the video to figure out your electronics. Maybe gretch would get off their Duff and build a guitar with your setup (and put your name on it). It's a real prize winner 🏆.
Great sound. 👍🏼
Dude you look great are you in a new space. I don't recognize the background. But what for for whatever reason RUclips hasn't showed me your videos. But it's always great to ReDiscover your channel and then I have to go back I got a bunch of content I can watch. Hope everything is well ☺️
RUclips seems a bit sporadic with its recommendations sometimes - I get recommended a lot of things I don't subscribe to, but not many that I do!
(Still filming in the same space - just from a different angle to accommodate a different camera with a more narrow-angled lens!)
Stumbled on your video from 2020, thanks for the wakeup call, a bit late I guess, these pickups sound wonderful, love those harmonic overtones, might put them in my Cabronita tele
Brilliant - they're great pickups. Bet they'd be ace in a Cabronita!
Sounds amazing. Clarity is everything to me.
Any chance you’ve ever gone on a clarity journey with a Strat? I can’t seem to crack mine.
Yeah, if you value clarity in your strat tone don't go for any pup over 6k and use a rolled off fuzz face for your cleans.
Love my clarity too :-) For me, going to the 280k pots in my Strat helped get that extra bit of clarity...I also wire the bottom tone pot to the bridge pickup but use a 550k pot for that to minimise loading. Alnico III pickups (Fralin Real 54s) helped get a little more 'sweetness' over the Alnico V's I had in there previously. I think the 60s style pickups are said to be a little thinner-but-brighter than the 50s style because of the gauge of wire they used...I used to have some 60s in my Strat which would suggest that to be true, but I prefer the weight of the 50s for gainy tones. I think Eric Johnson uses a 500k volume pot, so that might be a fun experiment if you're after a significant change. :-)
Absolutely great tone!
Ohh my God so awesome i am so inspired by you i couldnt helo but sing along i want to be in your band so dam good
I just put some in a baritone tele. Sound killer.
Heck ya you kick ass!!!!!!!
Hey Joe, did you ever try Hilo-Tron’s? I have a Tennessean and they’re super low output but great. Excellent vid as always :)
I did look at them - they seem really cool; I just settled on these in the end. Would love to try some one day though :-)
I have you cranked up in my room and it sounds like your amp is here
That's the aim :-)
Interesting that you had the guitar for nearly 10 years and never sold it. If I don't bond with a guitar is up on Reverb within the year 😂
I knew what it was capable of...I just couldn't figure out how to get it there! :P
I bet a dynasonic would sound good in the neck position of the rick 330
Hi Joe, how easy was it to swap-out the Filtertrons for the T-Armonds? I've seen other sources suggest that adaptors and 'English mount' brackets are required when converting to the Dynasonic style pickups.
These were a drop-in replacement for the Filter'Trons...no adapting needed. Think the different mounts are to allow different types of pickups to be subbed for the T-Armonds.
Would be interesting to A/B this against an American Reissue Jaguar or Jazzmaster for the ultimate note clarity contest !...I have a Dynasonic equipped Gretsch in stock but my Custom Shop Jazzmaster blows it out of the water for note separation and clarity. Also the Bigsby doesn't have that 'smoothness' of Leo Fenders design... I always think a Filtertron equipped Jet is more 'useful' as it offers a different , darker tonal palette. If you want clarity its the Jazzmaster every time !
Dynasonics are the best sounding pups bar none.
Man I got some T-Armonds in my streamliner 2420(big hollow body)
And the mids and bass are snappy and awesome like the tele but the highs are so reserved with a pinging noise in the harmonics that makes this ear piercing harmonic
They do have a peculiar EQ - there's a video coming soon comparing this guitar to both a Tele & Les Paul Junior. From memory, the T-Armonds lack the 'bite' of the Tele, but they're possibly a little more extended in the high end. They're pretty unique sounding.
Traditionally dynasonic guitars had the tone knob instead of switch
Hi, so you had filtertrons in it and you put dynasonics into it? They both fit into the pickup slots? Considering a gretsch at the minute but cant decide on filtertrons or dynasonics basically. If they can be swapped ill chance the filtertrons first maybe.
Filter'Trons and Dynasonics are different sizes, so they're not interchangeable. These are the TV Jones T-Armonds, which they make in a few different sizes/fittings - these particular ones are the 'No Ears' fitting which are essentially 'Tron-sized. For hollow guitars such as this, TV Jones also ship them with a plastic adaptor which allows them to be mounted with the usual fittings. :-) But in general, 'Trons.& Dynas are different sizes so can't be swapped.
Hey joe, I’m a fellow left handed Bristolian, where do recommend I go to buy my 2nd guitar?
Wayhey, a fellow Bristol boy!! :D Ooh...it's hard to say, as very few shops stock a good selection of lefties. I think the only one that really does is PMT just off the centre - they typically have a few lefty Fender/Gibson/Gretsches in there. Aside from that, Treblerock in Clifton occasionally seems to come across interesting things. But to be honest, I buy almost everything 2nd hand on eBay or Reverb...very rare that I buy new. Online, I'd recommend GuitarGuitar for having a decent selection of lefties in-stock...Andertons have loads listed but they very rarely seem to actually have any in stock!!
@@JoePerkinsMusic thanks, that helps a lot
Great demo do you want to sell it
Ah, I see you're a lefty! I'm not a fellow lefty though--I just think it's interesting to see left-handed players. Just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to find specific guitars that are left-handed? Is the amount of choices for guitars a lot more limited for left-handed players?
I'll try to answer this fully in the end-of-month Q&A on Wednesday :-) But in short...you can _generally_ get limited specs of most models, but not usually the full selection/colours or limited edition runs. Most shops only stock a couple of lefties too, so it's rare you can try one before you buy. But overall, it's not _too_ bad nowadays. Great Q!
@@JoePerkinsMusic Thanks for the response! 👍
Great job Mr. Perkins, I am very curious as to how this would sound side by side with a telecaster now with the t-armonds. Wonder how similar they would be with that low end clarity and punch. I have some Tv classics but still find them muddy compared to my tele and wonder if these would be the ticket.
I'll try to shoot an #AskPerky about that shortly - comparing the two :-)
Enjoyable vid - Analog.man are simply great pedals. However, they colour the sound too much for a proper listen. Nonetheless, I have made similar the same pup 'swap-out' to my Identical Duo-Jet, except right-handed. You could have achieved some excellent Jazz tones out of the T-Almonds through say, a JTM-30 Marshal combo amp, good enough for most Jazz players.
Hi Joe, I recently bought a G 6128T-TVP Power Jet (2005), I love it but the sound is really too dark for me. I'm actually looking for what you were looking for. (I'm into The Beatles earliest sound). So I will change the current pickups TV Jones Power'tron for the T-Armonds that you are recommending. Do I have to do any special modification or do I need any extra mounting rig? Do I need to change the capacitors as you did? Thanks man!!!
Hi - great choice on the pickups! To fit the T-Armonds into a Jet you do need an adaptor, but TV Jones supplies these with the pickups (at least they did with mine!) Essentially, you fix the pickup to the plastic adaptor, and then bolt the adaptor into the guitar - they're simple but work great. In terms of capacitors - completely personal preference; you don't 'have' to do anything. Your current caps will still work absolutely fine - I just wanted to change their values so they weren't as 'dark' sounding :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic Thank you!
Love dynasonics…hate the 60
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if you want more sustain and metallic resonance "jangle" replace the bridge with a solid metal one ie. compton or true arc. bigsy also makes a low cost one in aluminium. depending on the metal used these can sound very different.
I am thinking of putting a Tune-O-Matic style one on there - I didn't like the original roller bridge as I couldn't intonate it, and the Synchrosonic one has never sounded that great, to my ears. So I might experiment soon :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic Tru Arc can make lefty Serpentune bridges
@@les047 Thanks for the info 🙂
I was with you until you said zwreck, but your tone nevertheless sounds great -- a new twist on the late sixties (and fifties gretsch flavored). Very cool. But so is many well produced studio guitar tones (and that looks like a recording studio). I need live gig gear not studio stuff. Cliff gallop but live -- if that's possible.
Are the T-Armonds higher output or lower compared to the Raybutts?
They're much higher in terms of DC resistance - the RB's are about 4ohms; the T-Armonds are 12ohms or so - but that's not 'output' as such. The RB's are some of the most punchy pickups I own - so DC resistance readings can be a little misleading.
Of all those pickups tried, did you endorse any of them?
I've never endorsed anything - I generally just buy stuff I think I'll like and sell it on if I don't (these T-Armonds are still in my Gretsch!)
Great sound. Will try those in my jet pro ehichbis the low budget version but looks the same. I hate the muffled bass response in mine and wanted to sell it.. But will try this..
But is it humbucking? I dont want single coil noise either.. Please let me know..
They’re single coils so not humbucking. But I’ve never found them to be at all noisy. :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic thanks. Damn so there is always a downside it seems. Since you tried out all kinds of pickups i think mini humbuckers could be my 2nd option. Since all filtertrons sounded muddy you said. Will test both.
@@BlackBalloonGraz Vintage-correct Filter'Trons are bright and chimey whilst being hum-cancelling. I've got the TV Jones Ful-Fidelity in one of my guitars, and had the Creamery Black Cats in my Jet before the T-Armonds. There's a couple of videos of the Creamery's on my channel...plenty of definition in low output, unpotted Trons :-)
What’s your pick up height at?
The bass on mine seem to overpower the treble
Set to what TVJ recommended - padded out with foam. I think the 1Meg pots make all the difference in terms of letting more high end through to balance out the lows - especially with the series pot arrangement. That's what the original Jets with Dynasonics used - and that's what I put in this guitar :-)
@@JoePerkinsMusic thanks man
Imma go ahead and do that
Thank you :)
Great video!
I’m looking to swap the HS filtertrons on my Players Edition Jet
How do you lower/higher the T’Armond? Can you adjust the whole pickup easily?
Depends exactly what pickup fitting your Jet has - best check which mount you need for your specific guitar with TVJ before buying any. But with these ones, they come with a plastic adaptor to make them fit the MIJ Duo Jet cavity - and you then put foam underneath where they screw in to the body to raise them up and down. To be honest, I've never been a fan of the Gretsch Tron/Dyna 'pack it out with foam' method - but it's mostly what they did back in the day.
you better talk as you play