First time ever giving an ad a chance… I share the same thought! You scared me about the aggressive stance toward square bodies but the pun was accepted after a quick thought about scrolling on! I definitely subscribed.
Great podcast!! Some great info and looking forward to their LS motor hitting the market. As a ford fan mostly will never own one. But maybe the Godzilla motor could be Blueprints next project. Oil & Whiskey any chance you might get Malcom Reed from how to BBQ right on the podcast? He has great stories plus he is a big bourbon and whiskey fan.
Regulators and industry certainly got too far over their skis with all electric too soon. I have a BEV and they are great in certain use cases, but far from a full replacement anytime soon. Seems like would be a lot easier to build out charging infrastructure than alternatives like hydrogen (whose production is also very dirty). Then can focus on clean, reliable power production (i.e. nuclear). I think have to be careful about putting too much credence into any set of lifecycle environmental impact numbers like 80k miles, but it is a good point that it is not clear cut.
People have no idea that CARB states with in USA, or even my friends up north about Canada... banning gasoline and diesel vehicles en masse in the very near future. Please let people know, so they might vote in different people to change that trajectory. An Important thing to note: A gasoline/diesel plug-in hybrid with 50 mile range will make it possible for us to get >70% of the desired effect of a battery EV only society with no down sides such as: high upfront cost; resource volatility, slave mining, ecological disasters (colbalt mining in developing world); hazardous fender benders (most insurance companies will write off a whole brand new EV with any impact that might have damaged a 20k usd battery internally because it may just explode weeks later while charging in a garage. The battery cost to much to replace on a car, so the whole thing gets scrapped (as opposed to a much smaller and cheaper hybrid). I was a huge proponent of H2 PEM fuel cells in passenger cars... but having seen the Clarity, I have shifted to H2 as a heavy duty solution. For both a conventional gasoline plug in hybrid, or a hydrogen PEM fuel cell setup, if you have a power plant of 100HP and a correct size for the application battery you can easily move most anything down the road. The trick is how big of an electric motor slapped on it. Most passenger vehicles use less than 15hp cruising down the highway, as long as power plant can beat the average power demand of the application it will work. Edit to add: With the Natural gas solution, it's basically only CO2 coming out of the exhaust with some trace amounts of emissions from oil past the rings, propane is nearly as clean to operate as well. (you can run them indoors they are so clean) but there are newer applications like putting turbines to drive a generator to power heavy duty vehicles. that turbine can be significantly more efficient than a conventional piston engine. Turbines can burn almost anything, gas or liquid fuels and they can have complete combustion without any of the unwanted emissions (beyond co2) I normally hate any form of government intervention but some of the banning of 2 stroke small equipment is probably a good thing. A good electric weed eater is better in almost every way over even pro models of 2 stroke weed eaters except for run time... but as with the fuel, you can always change out new batteries. small engine pollution from lawnmowers or 2 stroke equipment... 1hr is like 1 year of running an emissions complaint passenger car. It's mind boggling bad for the environment. Most OPE can run off of propane, or batteries without much inconvenience, and none of the toxic pollution. It's just mine boggling that after tier 4 final, we are still trying to go after vehicle emissions while small motors are left unchecked. Also, the grid will never support the demand of EVs, and there is no plan to build any significant capacity. In fact, the USA grid has stalled since the 1990s really, the only reason we have working electric grid is because of off shoring of much of the manufacturing, and huge efficiency gains of HVAC and lighting.
@@jimsomerville3924 as compared to what? a bicycle? I guess I could agree that cars are more resource intensive in almost every way than a bicycle. ICE cars are less mineral intensive than EVs, takes on average for a typical equivalent to meet pairity at 60k miles on average to make up the CO2 difference. problem is most evs are being junked before they turn 5 years old. Insurance doesn't want to pay for a house fire after a small collision, so they error on the side of scraping. That and things like batteries, traction motors and the inverters aren't cheap, they seem to fail in and out of warranty, and with the latter, most would opt for a new vehicle rather than sink 3,000~20,000 into an aging car. The new CARB proposals offer greater protections to consumers, but its very likely that if both cars are driven 15,000 miles a year and aren't victims of crashes, the ICE will likely be drivable at 12 years can't say the same for the EV without replacing major components like a battery or the traction motors. The only thing pulling down the average age of vehicles on the road is the EV sector.
I mostly agree with you up until government intervention on 2 stroke engines. That was the thin edge of the wedge that is now being used against all ICE vehicles and the overpromotion of EV's.
@@K05H almost all the legislation flows to the more expensive vehicles rather than small displacement engines despite their much more harmful pollution. almost all properly working vehicles in the last 15years clean the air while driving down the road. I'm advocating we leave car makers alone, focus on pollution where it matters. I personally don't care about CO2 emissions, so when I say focus on cleaning up small engines it's purely from a harm reduction aspect not some nutty fanaticism. 2 stroke and small 4 stroke engines usually can't fit acceptable emissions equipment, the amount of NOx and HCs the emit is incredible. I'm saying let us have our gasoline and diesel cars, and focus on harmful emissions where they found. Smog and ground level Ozone and aweful for the population. We've more or less eliminated the concern entirely from normal passenger vehicles and heavy duty trucks. Small engines can be converted to other things, Propane is a viable replacement for gasoline in most of the larger non hand held engines. Hand held replacements are likely going electric. Most of the larger equipment can be fitted with emissions devices too, but it wouldn't be needed if switched to run on propane. the hardest one in my mind to replace with a cleaner alternative would be a logger's chain saw. Stihl and others are working on it. I know it's not ideal for the end user, but it actually makes sense to focus on a problem area rather than legislate out of existence private transportation. tier 4 final should have been the end.
I could listen to old heads from the industry for hours.. great chat guys 🔥
Great podcast! Lots of good insights into the EV vs ICE markets and how they are going to effect our lives in the near future.
Norris is legend !
Loved this Podcast. What a great and insightful guest.
I've had a blueprint 383 for a few years now. They build awesome engines
First time ever giving an ad a chance… I share the same thought! You scared me about the aggressive stance toward square bodies but the pun was accepted after a quick thought about scrolling on! I definitely subscribed.
Great podcast!! Some great info and looking forward to their LS motor hitting the market. As a ford fan mostly will never own one. But maybe the Godzilla motor could be Blueprints next project. Oil & Whiskey any chance you might get Malcom Reed from how to BBQ right on the podcast? He has great stories plus he is a big bourbon and whiskey fan.
Your drinking my cousins whisky hell yeah
Regulators and industry certainly got too far over their skis with all electric too soon. I have a BEV and they are great in certain use cases, but far from a full replacement anytime soon. Seems like would be a lot easier to build out charging infrastructure than alternatives like hydrogen (whose production is also very dirty). Then can focus on clean, reliable power production (i.e. nuclear). I think have to be careful about putting too much credence into any set of lifecycle environmental impact numbers like 80k miles, but it is a good point that it is not clear cut.
People have no idea that CARB states with in USA, or even my friends up north about Canada... banning gasoline and diesel vehicles en masse in the very near future. Please let people know, so they might vote in different people to change that trajectory.
An Important thing to note: A gasoline/diesel plug-in hybrid with 50 mile range will make it possible for us to get >70% of the desired effect of a battery EV only society with no down sides such as:
high upfront cost;
resource volatility, slave mining, ecological disasters (colbalt mining in developing world);
hazardous fender benders (most insurance companies will write off a whole brand new EV with any impact that might have damaged a 20k usd battery internally because it may just explode weeks later while charging in a garage. The battery cost to much to replace on a car, so the whole thing gets scrapped (as opposed to a much smaller and cheaper hybrid).
I was a huge proponent of H2 PEM fuel cells in passenger cars... but having seen the Clarity, I have shifted to H2 as a heavy duty solution.
For both a conventional gasoline plug in hybrid, or a hydrogen PEM fuel cell setup, if you have a power plant of 100HP and a correct size for the application battery you can easily move most anything down the road. The trick is how big of an electric motor slapped on it. Most passenger vehicles use less than 15hp cruising down the highway, as long as power plant can beat the average power demand of the application it will work.
Edit to add: With the Natural gas solution, it's basically only CO2 coming out of the exhaust with some trace amounts of emissions from oil past the rings, propane is nearly as clean to operate as well. (you can run them indoors they are so clean)
but there are newer applications like putting turbines to drive a generator to power heavy duty vehicles. that turbine can be significantly more efficient than a conventional piston engine. Turbines can burn almost anything, gas or liquid fuels and they can have complete combustion without any of the unwanted emissions (beyond co2)
I normally hate any form of government intervention but some of the banning of 2 stroke small equipment is probably a good thing. A good electric weed eater is better in almost every way over even pro models of 2 stroke weed eaters except for run time... but as with the fuel, you can always change out new batteries.
small engine pollution from lawnmowers or 2 stroke equipment... 1hr is like 1 year of running an emissions complaint passenger car. It's mind boggling bad for the environment.
Most OPE can run off of propane, or batteries without much inconvenience, and none of the toxic pollution. It's just mine boggling that after tier 4 final, we are still trying to go after vehicle emissions while small motors are left unchecked.
Also, the grid will never support the demand of EVs, and there is no plan to build any significant capacity. In fact, the USA grid has stalled since the 1990s really, the only reason we have working electric grid is because of off shoring of much of the manufacturing, and huge efficiency gains of HVAC and lighting.
"high upfront cost; resource volatility, slave mining, ecological disasters;" that basically describes ICE as well.
@@jimsomerville3924 as compared to what? a bicycle? I guess I could agree that cars are more resource intensive in almost every way than a bicycle.
ICE cars are less mineral intensive than EVs, takes on average for a typical equivalent to meet pairity at 60k miles on average to make up the CO2 difference. problem is most evs are being junked before they turn 5 years old. Insurance doesn't want to pay for a house fire after a small collision, so they error on the side of scraping. That and things like batteries, traction motors and the inverters aren't cheap, they seem to fail in and out of warranty, and with the latter, most would opt for a new vehicle rather than sink 3,000~20,000 into an aging car. The new CARB proposals offer greater protections to consumers, but its very likely that if both cars are driven 15,000 miles a year and aren't victims of crashes, the ICE will likely be drivable at 12 years can't say the same for the EV without replacing major components like a battery or the traction motors.
The only thing pulling down the average age of vehicles on the road is the EV sector.
I mostly agree with you up until government intervention on 2 stroke engines. That was the thin edge of the wedge that is now being used against all ICE vehicles and the overpromotion of EV's.
@@K05H almost all the legislation flows to the more expensive vehicles rather than small displacement engines despite their much more harmful pollution.
almost all properly working vehicles in the last 15years clean the air while driving down the road. I'm advocating we leave car makers alone, focus on pollution where it matters.
I personally don't care about CO2 emissions, so when I say focus on cleaning up small engines it's purely from a harm reduction aspect not some nutty fanaticism. 2 stroke and small 4 stroke engines usually can't fit acceptable emissions equipment, the amount of NOx and HCs the emit is incredible.
I'm saying let us have our gasoline and diesel cars, and focus on harmful emissions where they found.
Smog and ground level Ozone and aweful for the population. We've more or less eliminated the concern entirely from normal passenger vehicles and heavy duty trucks.
Small engines can be converted to other things, Propane is a viable replacement for gasoline in most of the larger non hand held engines. Hand held replacements are likely going electric. Most of the larger equipment can be fitted with emissions devices too, but it wouldn't be needed if switched to run on propane.
the hardest one in my mind to replace with a cleaner alternative would be a logger's chain saw. Stihl and others are working on it.
I know it's not ideal for the end user, but it actually makes sense to focus on a problem area rather than legislate out of existence private transportation.
tier 4 final should have been the end.