If the black heart represents Billy, then that means Rio was never supposed to be on the road. It was only a cosmic entity on the ride to collect bodies.
"all roads leads to her" so I believe the last challenge in the witches' road is Rio and this healm is hers in some way... and I think she joined the coven just to enjoy the ride...
I don't think Lilia died. At least in the tradicional way. She became a full circle. Remember, the flow of time is a illusion. Now that her life ended and she was able to save her coven, there were no more surprises for her. She already knows everything. That last scene was she returning to her beginning, this time already knowing everything so she will be able to relieve her life in the proper flow of time. She's basically reliving her life in a loop trough all eternity. Enjoying every second she didn't before because of the gaps. She's eternal.
Exactly how I viewed it. The loop was closed. Her timeline has come full circle. Both beginning and end have joined as a cyclical timeline and all the gaps have been filled inbetween. I'm not sure if she knows how everything will be at the beginning of her journey now (otherwise it would continue being a straight line where she's now starting a new path) but she's in a continual flow of beginning to end to beginning to end, repeating it all.
I'd take it a step further and say she isn't reliving her life. she already has lived her life. she isn't immortal. she passed on but since she lived her life out of sync its just showing us another of the life she lived. RIP to a boss.
Why should Marvel take notes when they're the ones who made it? I think the reason its so good is its the first show after their shift to slow down production and focus on quality. Same with Deadpool and Wolverine
@@AstroRocket Exactly, they made the previous shows and they weren't good, nor were they well receieved. They need to take notes on how this show was developed. The writing and direction have been fabulous. I also wouldn't use Deadpool and Wolverine as a great example of moving in the right direction. It relied heavily on nostalgia and I enjoyed it, but the story is at best 7/10.
they need to take notes from Jac Schaefer specifically. Wandavision and Agatha All Along being 2/3 of the most well-received MCU shows are under her watch.
@@oOxollxoOo My point was that it seems their already taking notes and changing production style is what resulted in how good this show is. And Deadpool and Wolverine is absolutely an example of that improvement. The last movie they did that was a multiverse-spanning cameo-laden fanservice fest was Multiverse of Madness and that was hot garbage. D&W may not be the greatest story ever, but its a massive improvement over Marvel's last foray into that genre
The modern day version of tarot are archetypes based on the Italian versions however the Egyptians had tarot-like archetypes that they used well before the Italians. I am a student of tarot so I had to add that.
@@astrocoastalprocessor Lilia will have to come back unless Wiccan crosses over. Like we not getting deities crossing over like bast and Thor and they Egyptian gods. I’d like to see what’s up with how they interact.
Next should also be connected to time in a way, if the colours of the road match some theories that say they mirror the infinity stones, like we had Mind. Time and Soul remain.
@@serpentiousLilia's road was yellow and her trial is about time because she's a divination witch, then how 🤔, Rio is death which is related to soul and her road is green
@ I think the green trial might take them back in time to the moment of someone importants death. And the last trial being soul for Billy (Searching for Tommys soul). But we will see.
I love the writing for this. It was incredible and how the frame and Eye fish lens work together to show us different versions of scenes we saw before is amazing.
The fact they didn’t answer if he was Billy or William is left unanswered. In the comics he is Billy Kaplan. This would be a combination of Billy Maximoff and William Kaplan. Notice how teen says he already has a mom he’s not claiming Wanda as his mother claiming the regular human as his mom because he didn’t really remember anything prior to Billy inhabiting his body. There were still remnants of William, but there is also the soul of Billy
@@Kidapollo92 I think, ultimately, the answer will be whichever he chooses it to be. William, Billy, both, neither - in the end, we choose who we are and what we do with our time given to us. It doesn't matter what name he goes by, all that matters is who chooses to be now and what he'll do with his power.
Wonder if we gonna get all the witches back. The wish they make at the end is to bring back Alice and Lilia. I kind of think she wanted her death seeing how she lived so long but idk just guessing. Agatha might live out the after life as a ghost with death. She was a ghost in the comics at some point as well.
Killing 7 super evil witches with ONE card trick? Penn&Teller have nothing on Lilia Calderu. Wiccans "reunion" reading was answering his question. It had nothing to do with his brother, or Wanda - he was asking "Am I William or Billy". The reunion will be his two selves
So is Rio the representation of earths version of death and on other planets. she has to the ability to appear in different forms. This is here usual form. Which means there is it a bunch of Aubrey plazas all over the place cuz I would love a million Aubrey plazas Kevin feige please
@@h3llsBells I said on other planets too. But I doubt she is called Rio Vidal on other planets. I assume they have other aliases in other places for her
@@Kidapollo92 she doesn't really have a physical form or gender. Death is a universal constant. In the comics when cosmic entities want a physical form they go to a spot called the Dimension of Manifestations to obtain one. Marvel has really referenced this concept in a while so I wouldn't be surprised for the MCU they just indicate cosmic entities can manifest any physical form they want whenever they want to keep it simple.
This is my theory exactly. He pulled them into this hex of his. That is why everything seems to relate to the posters and items in his room. He found the witches that were within the 3 mile radius of him and pulled them in.
That doesn't make any sense, if he's create the illusion what's the point of searching his brother if they make it to the end Only real witches road can give you what you want not fake ones , okay
@@ee-012y.chaithanyakumar7who said he will get his brother back?? The door didn’t appear until Billy screamed. It was always a door with blue lighting.
Time is an illusion, her life is out of sequence, this episode shows her sequence and she learns about billy from Jen for the first time, and then when she goes back in time she tells Jen about billy which she learnt from Jen in the future, if that's how Jen knows about billy then she tells Lilia in the future, it's a loop, the idea of billy being the son of scarlet witch came out of nowhere, 😮, so it's either Rio tells about billy in the gap or Lilia learns about billy in another gap somewhere in time
So my tin foil hat theory regarding the “reunion” mentioned.. Spoilers: It will be a reunification of both William & Billy. He will be able access both memories.. live simultaneously as both people.. access his memories of his life within the hex.
In the comics Mistress Death has romantic connections with Deadpool or Thanos so it is possible she might get involved with one of them. Deadpool would be comedic, but Thanos would be chaotic.
she is also responsible for setting Thanos on the path of being one of the most feared villians in the marvel universe. don't get it twisted. Mistress Death does watever she wants and gets around.
I think she was bored and then got intrigued by what these mortal witches were doing and also knows that that road will lead to her anyway so might as well be nearby to collect, and have some "fun" in doing so.
@@dansby37 Death is there because Billy broke the sacred balance by transfering his soul into a dead body, that's all. She has her history with Agatha (is not the first time the entity Death gets involved with a mortal for whatever reason) but that's a B plot for her, she's after Billy.
@@V_i_vi_an that's the main reason of course else she wouldn't have bothered, but also having a little bit of "fun" and like you said interacting with Agatha again. Death does not Like to be cheated , she can get "cranky and cross" if it does happen.
If the black heart represents Billy, then that means Rio was never supposed to be on the road. It was only a cosmic entity on the ride to collect bodies.
That makes sense
"all roads leads to her" so I believe the last challenge in the witches' road is Rio and this healm is hers in some way... and I think she joined the coven just to enjoy the ride...
It’s possible this isn’t even the road
@@LaCheeserie a hex casted by Billy but if that is the case are these witches really dying?
@@Kidapollo92 Death setting an elaborate trap lol. Not likely
I don't think Lilia died. At least in the tradicional way. She became a full circle. Remember, the flow of time is a illusion. Now that her life ended and she was able to save her coven, there were no more surprises for her. She already knows everything. That last scene was she returning to her beginning, this time already knowing everything so she will be able to relieve her life in the proper flow of time. She's basically reliving her life in a loop trough all eternity. Enjoying every second she didn't before because of the gaps. She's eternal.
Exactly how I viewed it. The loop was closed. Her timeline has come full circle. Both beginning and end have joined as a cyclical timeline and all the gaps have been filled inbetween. I'm not sure if she knows how everything will be at the beginning of her journey now (otherwise it would continue being a straight line where she's now starting a new path) but she's in a continual flow of beginning to end to beginning to end, repeating it all.
And most people forgot that she has lived centuries... Meaning she gets to relive her life PROPERLY this time for another centuries!
same thoughts 😊 she might even be able to interact in future productions as her past self 🤯
I'd take it a step further and say she isn't reliving her life. she already has lived her life. she isn't immortal. she passed on but since she lived her life out of sync its just showing us another of the life she lived. RIP to a boss.
This show has far exceeded my expectations. Marvel needs to take notes.
Why should Marvel take notes when they're the ones who made it? I think the reason its so good is its the first show after their shift to slow down production and focus on quality. Same with Deadpool and Wolverine
@@AstroRocket Exactly, they made the previous shows and they weren't good, nor were they well receieved. They need to take notes on how this show was developed. The writing and direction have been fabulous.
I also wouldn't use Deadpool and Wolverine as a great example of moving in the right direction. It relied heavily on nostalgia and I enjoyed it, but the story is at best 7/10.
they need to take notes from Jac Schaefer specifically. Wandavision and Agatha All Along being 2/3 of the most well-received MCU shows are under her watch.
@@oOxollxoOo My point was that it seems their already taking notes and changing production style is what resulted in how good this show is. And Deadpool and Wolverine is absolutely an example of that improvement. The last movie they did that was a multiverse-spanning cameo-laden fanservice fest was Multiverse of Madness and that was hot garbage. D&W may not be the greatest story ever, but its a massive improvement over Marvel's last foray into that genre
They need to put Jack in charge of more projects. She actually bothers to learn the material.
The best episode so far, Lilia's got the best development and trial
Tarot was invented in Italy. It is assumed that Lilia was either the creator of reading cards or an early practitioner of the craft.
The modern day version of tarot are archetypes based on the Italian versions however the Egyptians had tarot-like archetypes that they used well before the Italians. I am a student of tarot so I had to add that.
@@JaCaraKM nice
@@JaCaraKM I went over this in my history class weird how they didn’t include the Egyptian aspects
@@Kidapollo92 moon knight exists, so it is a possibility that egyptian card reading could appear in a future production 😊
@@astrocoastalprocessor Lilia will have to come back unless Wiccan crosses over. Like we not getting deities crossing over like bast and Thor and they Egyptian gods. I’d like to see what’s up with how they interact.
Next trial is the Green witch one!
You Can see this with the color of the vines...
Next should also be connected to time in a way, if the colours of the road match some theories that say they mirror the infinity stones, like we had Mind. Time and Soul remain.
@@serpentiousLilia's road was yellow and her trial is about time because she's a divination witch, then how 🤔, Rio is death which is related to soul and her road is green
@ I think the green trial might take them back in time to the moment of someone importants death. And the last trial being soul for Billy (Searching for Tommys soul). But we will see.
@@CoralAries-fc7jr Rio isn't part of the coven. She's just there along for the ride, or, as she put it, she was passing by.
@@drudle yes, I was talking about the road color and infinity stones
I love the writing for this. It was incredible and how the frame and Eye fish lens work together to show us different versions of scenes we saw before is amazing.
This was one of the best MCU television episodes yet
Thank you guys for reviewing this show, it's really great.
The fact they didn’t answer if he was Billy or William is left unanswered. In the comics he is Billy Kaplan. This would be a combination of Billy Maximoff and William Kaplan. Notice how teen says he already has a mom he’s not claiming Wanda as his mother claiming the regular human as his mom because he didn’t really remember anything prior to Billy inhabiting his body. There were still remnants of William, but there is also the soul of Billy
@@Kidapollo92 I think, ultimately, the answer will be whichever he chooses it to be. William, Billy, both, neither - in the end, we choose who we are and what we do with our time given to us. It doesn't matter what name he goes by, all that matters is who chooses to be now and what he'll do with his power.
@ I feel it will be a combination of the two. He will not be Billy Maximoff nor will he william kaplin. He will be billy kaplin
RIP LILIA amazing character 😢😢
Lilia was impeccable, her time on the series was exceptional 😢
Glorious purpose!!!
Loved this episode
This was simply the best episode, but Jac Schaeffer will still gift us with two more episodes next week.
I feel like the road threw Lilia out before she landed on the swords, because in the end she got what she wanted
Wonder if we gonna get all the witches back. The wish they make at the end is to bring back Alice and Lilia. I kind of think she wanted her death seeing how she lived so long but idk just guessing. Agatha might live out the after life as a ghost with death. She was a ghost in the comics at some point as well.
12:35 : "..seems like the taroT cards.."
Pat: "..😏"
Wells over here spawning out of nowhere for this new episode haven’t seen him all reaction
Killing 7 super evil witches with ONE card trick? Penn&Teller have nothing on Lilia Calderu.
Wiccans "reunion" reading was answering his question. It had nothing to do with his brother, or Wanda - he was asking "Am I William or Billy". The reunion will be his two selves
lol@penn and teller. good one. but re-watch the ep. Only 5 get impaled with the swords when they fall.
So is Rio the representation of earths version of death and on other planets. she has to the ability to appear in different forms. This is here usual form. Which means there is it a bunch of Aubrey plazas all over the place cuz I would love a million Aubrey plazas Kevin feige please
Not earth version of death, she is death it's self cosmic entity.
@@h3llsBells I said on other planets too. But I doubt she is called Rio Vidal on other planets. I assume they have other aliases in other places for her
actually Death is omnipresent. she can be everywhere all at once.
@ right but my other question is does she look the same everywhere or can she take kthe rforma for different beings and cultures
@@Kidapollo92 she doesn't really have a physical form or gender. Death is a universal constant. In the comics when cosmic entities want a physical form they go to a spot called the Dimension of Manifestations to obtain one. Marvel has really referenced this concept in a while so I wouldn't be surprised for the MCU they just indicate cosmic entities can manifest any physical form they want whenever they want to keep it simple.
RIP LILIA 😔
Lady death in the building!!!! I see you thanos I get it I get it
Theory: they are not on the witches road. It’s Billy warping reality just like his momma!!!
This is my theory exactly. He pulled them into this hex of his. That is why everything seems to relate to the posters and items in his room. He found the witches that were within the 3 mile radius of him and pulled them in.
That doesn't make any sense, if he's create the illusion what's the point of searching his brother if they make it to the end
Only real witches road can give you what you want not fake ones , okay
@@ee-012y.chaithanyakumar7who said he will get his brother back?? The door didn’t appear until Billy screamed. It was always a door with blue lighting.
@@jeremyd5850 because it was leading to their first trial, Jen's water element = blue.
@@jeremyd5850 he's himself that's whole point of this series
She only got 5/7 of them.
Guy in the middle please stop taping your leg the whole video we can hear it
Time is an illusion, her life is out of sequence, this episode shows her sequence and she learns about billy from Jen for the first time, and then when she goes back in time she tells Jen about billy which she learnt from Jen in the future, if that's how Jen knows about billy then she tells Lilia in the future, it's a loop, the idea of billy being the son of scarlet witch came out of nowhere, 😮, so it's either Rio tells about billy in the gap or Lilia learns about billy in another gap somewhere in time
YOU ALL NEED TO BE THANKING THEE ONE AND ONLY JAC SCHAEFFER. SHE IS THEE BEST WRITER AND STORYTELLER MARVEL HAS.
she is the head writer but she didn't do it alone. Episode 7 was written by Gia King , Cameron Squirres, and Jac Schaeffer.
So my tin foil hat theory regarding the “reunion” mentioned.. Spoilers:
It will be a reunification of both William & Billy. He will be able access both memories.. live simultaneously as both people.. access his memories of his life within the hex.
lolol tarot= tear-oh (tear rhymes bear not here)
couldnt continue to watch dudes fkin sleepin during the reaction lmao
Did you hear that there will be a production for MIDNIGHT'S CHILDREN? And Jen could be part of it, but I don't know if it will be a series or a movie.
Guys, it's a show every episode, cry HATERS 🖤
I think the reunion will be worth William Kaplan.
Bring a prize to Jac Schaeffer👑
The show volume is really low and distorted tho guys.
In the comics Mistress Death has romantic connections with Deadpool or Thanos so it is possible she might get involved with one of them. Deadpool would be comedic, but Thanos would be chaotic.
she is also responsible for setting Thanos on the path of being one of the most feared villians in the marvel universe. don't get it twisted. Mistress Death does watever she wants and gets around.
What the heck is a cosmic entity doing on earth and becoming a witch and having relationships with other witches?
i don’t think she became a witch i think that witch became death if that makes sense
I think she was bored and then got intrigued by what these mortal witches were doing and also knows that that road will lead to her anyway so might as well be nearby to collect, and have some "fun" in doing so.
@@dansby37 Death is there because Billy broke the sacred balance by transfering his soul into a dead body, that's all. She has her history with Agatha (is not the first time the entity Death gets involved with a mortal for whatever reason) but that's a B plot for her, she's after Billy.
@@V_i_vi_an that's the main reason of course else she wouldn't have bothered, but also having a little bit of "fun" and like you said interacting with Agatha again. Death does not Like to be cheated , she can get "cranky and cross" if it does happen.