Lanshan 2 3UL Vs Hilleberg Anaris

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2021
  • My comparison between the Lanshan 2 3UL and the Hilleberg Anaris.
    Daley Life Outdoors;
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    Hilleberg Anaris Spec:
    hilleberg.com/eng/tent/yellow...
    Lanshan 2 Spec:
    www.lanshantent.com/collectio...
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  • @KevinSmith-wr1sy
    @KevinSmith-wr1sy Год назад +3

    Not having to apply ugly seam sealer to the Hilleberg - that just sealed the deal for me.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  Год назад

      Nope, definitely no seam sealer required on the Anaris.

  • @zerotraceadventure
    @zerotraceadventure 3 года назад +2

    Great video Mark very informative both the tents look mint bravo mate

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      Both tents are well worth looking at if you're interested in this style of tent, definitely. Thanks for watching, much appreciated 👍

    • @zerotraceadventure
      @zerotraceadventure 3 года назад

      Really love the style would def opt for the anaris myself enjoyed your wild camping trips using it it looks amazing practical for many locations thanks mark

  • @jimfairbrother1687
    @jimfairbrother1687 2 года назад +2

    Great video and very informative. Nobody is a mug for what they choose to buy. If it makes you happy then all power to you! (Which is basically how I took your attitude towards the whole thing.) Good job.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +3

      Thanks Jim. I think both tents are good for what you pay for them although personally I prefer the quality of the Anaris. 👍🏼

    • @jimfairbrother1687
      @jimfairbrother1687 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 my friend has just bought an Anaris. He thinks it's brilliant. I am currently using a 40 quid eurohike but I'm looking to upgrade because I've caught the wild camping bug! Haha

  • @frederickridall628
    @frederickridall628 2 года назад +5

    Only just got around to watching this video, Mark and It's pretty much what I expected to be honest. I can identify with what you said about being thought of as a mug. There seems to be a lot of inverted snobbery regarding tents going around nowadays. I've no time for it. I've worked hard all my life and as far as I'm concerned it's nobody else's business how much I'm prepared to pay for a tent. So far I've only pitched my Anaris 3 times but I absolutely love it. It's in hibernation now but I've got big plans for it next year.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +2

      Yep you are totally correct with regards to inverted snobbery but I just wanted to show people the benefits of both tents. My Anaris has also been put away and it pains me. I have had some good trips this year and I plan to have many more in it. Its my favorite tent by far.
      Hope your plans for next year are going to give you many memories and its nice to think the Anaris will be part of that.

    • @frederickridall628
      @frederickridall628 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 👍

  • @martynedwards2777
    @martynedwards2777 3 года назад +1

    Great comparison. I love my Anaris!!

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      Me too. It's a top quality bit of kit.

  • @NorwayHikesTrails
    @NorwayHikesTrails 2 года назад +1

    Nice review/comparison. Thank you for sharing. You have a wonderful week. Stay Safe and I'll be looking forward to seeing you again soon.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment, it's much appreciated, I glad you enjoyed the video. Best regards, Mark

  • @sugarloafoutdoors7601
    @sugarloafoutdoors7601 2 года назад +1

    Just come across this video Mark, know you from Dans FB Page. I have been looking at the Anaris for a while, wish I had bought one when they first came out as they were cheaper than they are now. I have had a Lanshan (standard and pro) for a number of years now and some Hillebergs.
    The Lanshan is a great tent for the money and I love using it, but if I had the choice I would certainly go for the Anaris everytime. Isn't a snobbery thing, being a Hilleberg owner, it is down to the knowledge of the workmanship, quality and type of materials and also importantly the customer service you get from a Hilleberg.
    Being a Hilleberg owner I know it is just not as simple as a thread count as Kerlon fabric with silicon layers to begin with is really a totally different fabric compared to Sil Nylon or the Lanshan in reality and no need to seam seal due the manufacturing technique of Hillebergs.
    Nice to see them side by side, the Anaris does look significantly bigger and I also like the configurations options you have with the Anaris.
    I think my next purchase will be the Anaris, but I would still keep the Lanshan too.
    Gary

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад

      Hi Gary, I actually bought the Lanshan I used in the video from Ben who loaned it to me for the video. My daughter has it now and is yet to use it. It’s a good tent but the Anaris is a class above which, of course, a premium is paid. I’ve used the Anaris many times now and it’s by far my favourite tent. Thanks for watching, much appreciated.

  • @skim-lifeoutdoors4269
    @skim-lifeoutdoors4269 2 года назад +1

    Mark chopper read ! Great review
    Love the lanshan for price happy camping mate 👍👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      The Lanshan is really good for the price. Thanks for watching, much appreciated.

  • @RVAHikerGirl
    @RVAHikerGirl 2 года назад +1

    Hey there just subbed your channel to support a fellow RUclips vlogger and hiker out there. I'm watching from the east coast of the US where I hike and vlog my trips as well. I have a white Lanshan 2 and I love it. I have had it for 2 years and it's been great. The only thing I can say that would be the same for any hiking pole tent is that it's not great in the wind. Looking forward to watching more of your videos.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +2

      Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed the video, just subbed you back. Looking forward to following adventures.

    • @RVAHikerGirl
      @RVAHikerGirl 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 aww you are very kind to do so, thanks to you.

  • @DaleyOutdoors
    @DaleyOutdoors 3 года назад +4

    Nicely done Mark 👍 Great to see what your extra money gets you with the Hilleberg. The Anaris looks like a great bit of kit. After using the Lanshan a couple of times I just don’t think these trekking pole tents are for me. I don’t use poles for walking, if you do then they’re a great idea. I was hoping you’d have picked all of that bloody seam sealer off for me 😂

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +3

      As someone who uses poles these are ideal for me, I really like them. Thanks for letting me use it, Ben. Much appreciated.

  • @spenthom1863
    @spenthom1863 3 года назад +4

    I got into camping because we were poor growing up couldn't afford holidays abroad, so i would catch the 272 bus to foxhouse and have the greatest camping experiences with a £10 tent from CCC a woollen blanket and a pot noodle. And as I've got older and upgraded to technological better equipment, the joys of being basic and not caring if I get something snagged on a goze Bush or something is in a way more freeing

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +1

      I was pretty much the same myself, we made our own tents with wool blanket and sticks, held down by rocks. Good times.

  • @jimbobh1965
    @jimbobh1965 2 года назад +2

    I bought a lanshan and got rid after putting it up once, I've owned a Hilleberg Akto since 1998 and it's still great today so I didn't hesitate to get the Anaris when I saved enough money.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +2

      I actually bought the Lanshan I used in this video off my mate Ben for my daughter. She's yet to use it.

    • @jimbobh1965
      @jimbobh1965 2 года назад

      @@QuakerJones268 where did you get your Anaris? I bought mine for £560 not long after they were launched.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад

      @@jimbobh1965 I paid the same for mine from Taunton Leisure using my Defence Discount card.

  • @StripeyHatGuy
    @StripeyHatGuy 2 года назад +1

    Completely agree! The LanShan is a rock solid tent for the money but obviously not a match for a hilleberg - said this not everyone needs a hilleberg so, particular at the beginning of you want to check out if wild camping is something for you or not. I am personally using the LanShan as a 2/3 season tent, next to my self built dynamee one in the Scottish Highlands, for winter I'll use my good old trusted north face from the Alps 😉

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      I actually bought this very Lanshan from Ben who let me use it for the video. My daughter has it now. It’s a cracking tent for the money and I would happily recommend them to people. The Hilleberg Anaris is in a different class though as you would expect it to be for the money.

  • @1982Noddin
    @1982Noddin 3 года назад +1

    Tidy comparison that mate. I think the message was clear and fair!
    I think I'm going to buy an Alkpit Polestar as my first look at a trekking pole tent, I love the Alpkit brand

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +1

      Cheers fella. It was an interesting comparison to do after all the grief I've had about "Paying for an overpriced Hilleberg". It just reiterated to me that buying the Anaris was the right thing to do for me.. 👍

    • @1982Noddin
      @1982Noddin 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 I'd like a pole tent at some point, though it's not my priority at the moment

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      @@1982Noddin As someone who uses poles this type of tent was a draw for me. Having used it a few times now I've become very attached to it. It's easy to put up, strong and very light.

    • @1982Noddin
      @1982Noddin 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 never go wrong with a Hilleberg 1👍

  • @thesouthernwoodsmanuk216
    @thesouthernwoodsmanuk216 3 года назад +1

    I bought the lanshan 2 for a lighter tent . It is a pain on the set up but has so much room.and the vestibule so much room. even if I had the mone5y I would invest in a Allak2. but that isn't going to hapen. . you have both of the tents and are happy with both then. I will still give a thumbs up because in reality the hilliberg has better materials. And to be honest with you it is more for me to just get out there and enjoy the outdoors. no matter the budget. You have been honest and shown the comparisons . So as a viewer I know what my options are. thank dude. you got a lie from.me take care and keep up the good work. From Karl.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      Thanks, Karl. The Lanshan 2 is a good tent in my opinion, I really like it. That design of tent really appeals to me for summer use. The Anaris is a bigger tent, has a lot more room but it's a little heavier and it costs a lot more but it is a beautiful tent.
      I'm lucky in that I could afford to go with the Anaris which is much better quality. As I've said above, the only reason I did the comparison was because I was called an idiot for spending so much money when the Lanshan 2 was a better tent. Well I've proved to myself it isn't a better tent and I'm happy to own the Anaris. Thanks for watching and thanks for you comments. 👍

    • @thesouthernwoodsmanuk216
      @thesouthernwoodsmanuk216 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 If your happy with what you have . that is all that matters. I Wear army issue trousers and a MTP Jacket even when hiking on colder days. I get scoffed at but my comfort and durability comes before their opinions . An old man said to me once in West Sussex while hiking in the winter. After I explained why I wear army issue MTP clothes . he said are you warm you look warm . are you comfortable..you look comfortable. that is the most important thing. he made me smile that day and I will always remember what he said. Let the people scoff dude because they will not be as happy as me and you. take care dude and thank you for the lovely reply. I am looking forward to seeing more of your videos when I have the time between. work ..personal life. adventures and editing. all the best dude..

  • @vicster1981
    @vicster1981 2 года назад +1

    Hi Mark,
    nice to see a video comparing the two, I have a Lanshan and absolutely love it, but dream about owning a Hilleberg....
    To be fair though, for the camping I do (UK 3 season about 10 times a year, 2 weeks at most) the Lanshan and my super cheap Phoxx 1 V2 are more than i require. I'm a slim 5"6' female the Lanshan is huge for my requirements, I have the newer version than your mate which doesn't require seam sealing (tried and tested multiple times in pouring rain). I do, however wuss out from taking it if strong winds are forecast as I know my trusty Phoxx 1 will withstand really bad storm conditions.
    This comes to my problem with the Hilleberg, my two tents combined in price cost less than a third of the price of a Hilleberg.
    So a few issues I have with the Lanshan, I'm tiny and can't imagine sharing it with anyone bigger than myself for room alone if there are two of you the Hilleberg is a winner. The Lanshan qualilty and materials (which are fine) mean it will not last a long as a better quality tent, I can't imagine it as something that future generations will get out of my loft to use, so yes its a hell of a lot cheaper but this is probably false economy if we judge it by £/use.
    Anyhows, just thought I'd throw in my 2 pennies worth,.
    Thanks for the informative video and glad you have justified your purchase (never required) to yourself.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for that, I love comments that offer constructive views. I actually bought the Lanshan I used in the video for my daughter and she loves it, she also has a Phoxx 1. The Phoxx 1 is a good, sturdy tent and she has been out with me in some horrible weather. The only issue I have with the Phoxx is head space. In winter I tend to spend more hours on my tent and I like to sit up and move around.
      You have a couple of really good tents there and I hope you get out and enjoy them.

    • @rasmuspedersen3563
      @rasmuspedersen3563 2 года назад

      Hilleberg... Lifetime warranty... Done!

  • @NoviceWildCamper
    @NoviceWildCamper 3 года назад +2

    Good comparison there Mark. I think the new lanshan is a little longer now at 220cm as opposed to the 228cm on the anaris and I need every cm I can get. Shame they don't do a 230cm like the new Lanshan 1 as that would win I for me. 👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      I think the Lanshan is a good tent but I was told time and time again I was a mug spending so much money on the Anaris as the Lanshan is as good if not better, I just wanted to put my mind at rest, and that's what I've done The Anaris is good value for money.

    • @NoviceWildCamper
      @NoviceWildCamper 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 I think its horses for courses. If I had the money I'd buy the hilleberg in all models but..... maybe one day 👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +1

      @@NoviceWildCamper Get those tables sold!

    • @NoviceWildCamper
      @NoviceWildCamper 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 🤣👍

  • @HoboTurtle
    @HoboTurtle 3 года назад +3

    It ultimately comes down to durability vs lightweight, in wich both products live up to respective expectations

  • @08003004
    @08003004 2 года назад +1

    It will be great if you have a chance to compare Lanshan 2 Pro and Anaris too.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      I would love to but I don't own the Lanshan 2 Pro. If I had one, I would.👍 Thanks for watching.

  • @gj2772
    @gj2772 2 года назад +1

    I have to come to the lanshans defense here as a lanshan owner. The pole seating is perfect - believe me, I understand that at first sight you might think this, but it's just brilliant and lightweight don't forget..
    I have owned mine for some time now and she's been out on many adventures, most recently a road trip around the Highlands, with the last night spent right on a cliff top on an extremely windy night at Stoer lighthouse. If you seat your poles in the correct direction, that combined with tought lines you'll be just fine in stormy conditions. No tennis ball required.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      So you're saying I wasted my money? That is what the video is about. You absolutely don't have to defend the Lanshan at all, I actually bought this one in the video. I still believe the pole seating is a better design on the Anaris and I still believe the quality of the Anaris is far superior but like I said in the video, it's a quality that comes at a price. I haven't said the Lanshan is a bad tent so I don't understand why you feel the need to defend it.
      Thanks for watching and enjoy your Lanshan as I'm sure my daughter will enjoy the one from the video.. ATB

    • @gj2772
      @gj2772 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 ok?...
      You seem a bit defensive, I didnt actually mention you, your purchases or the other tent at all, I was mearly pointing out that as an experienced lanshan user, that the pole seating wasn't as you described, nothing else...
      Goodbye

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +3

      @@gj2772 No worries, fair enough. I must have taken your comments out of context. My apologies.

    • @gj2772
      @gj2772 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 No problem, have a good day.

  • @andrewcollie
    @andrewcollie 3 года назад +3

    It was interesting to see similar form/function tents from opposite ends of the price spectrum side by side. I agree that everything comes down to personal taste and budget - but for me, I'd go for Anaris.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +4

      I can appreciate that people love their Lanshan and I can see why. But the Anàris is by far the better quality tent. I think people also need to appreciate the people in the factory who make the Hilleberg Tents are paid a good wage (according to Petra) unlike those in the Chinese sweatshops. That also has an impact on price.

  • @PackBoots
    @PackBoots 2 года назад +1

    Hi Mark. Great vid. Already have a Lanshan and enjoyed using it on Cumbria way last year but definitely like the look of the upgrade to the Anaris. Would you say the length is better in the Anaris?

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      Happy New Year to you. Yes the Anaris is a bigger tent. But it comes at a price, that being it's heavier. Inside length of the Anaris is 220cm the Lanshan is 210cm.

    • @NMCD0892
      @NMCD0892 2 года назад

      The 2022 Lanshan 2 is longer than the previous model also the Pro version is 230cm long. I've just bought the Pro off someone on a Facebook group, waiting on it arriving this week. Couldn't justify the expense of a Hilleberg for me personally as I acknowledge I'm a wannabe thru hiker and world explorer. Reality is occasional weekend trips and lots of going to work and seemingly never ending bills. I like to live vicariously through others adventures on youtube. 😂

  • @steve-kx3bs
    @steve-kx3bs 3 года назад +1

    Hello they do say the new lanshan 2 pro is a much better design then the older version would like to see if you agree

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      I've seen videos but I'm not a fan of the single skin tent. I can't say if it's a better design because I haven't seen one in the flesh so to speak.

  • @shabingly
    @shabingly 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely spot on, I agree with you.
    Only thing I'd quibble with you is regarding you saying the materials are better quality; not necessarily the case, but the Hilleberg materials are definitely more durable simply because they've used a higher thread count material in the body & fly, which will also be one of the reasons it's heavier.
    Also, if the Hilleberg's factory seam sealed (I have no idea), the cost to them doing that is probably where at least 200 quid of the RRP comes from, in labour & factory space.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +6

      But doesn't being more durable make it better quality? Hilleberg tents don't have sealed seams. The stitching process is so meticulous that seam seal is not required.

  • @jimtilbrook4635
    @jimtilbrook4635 2 года назад +2

    The Hilleberg bathtub inner groundsheet doesn’t need a footprint as it’s so thick, therefore it comes in at 1400g

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      Mine came with the footprint so I use it but I agree, it's not really required

  • @camperlists7090
    @camperlists7090 2 года назад

    Nice review

  • @thebayfish9508
    @thebayfish9508 Год назад +1

    Great review. What’s it like in the cold with all that mesh

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  Год назад +2

      Hello buddy. I don’t have an issue with the cold if I’m honest. I never expect my tent to be the thing that keeps me warm, that’s totally down to my sleeping system. When I use my Nallo I always expose the mesh rather than zip up the door fully but I don’t feel a great difference either way.
      Bottom line is I’ve never laid in my Anaris thinking “I wish it wasn’t a mesh inner” 👍🏼

    • @thebayfish9508
      @thebayfish9508 Год назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 cheers buddy. I’m planning cape wrath trail in April I have a few tents and bought the gossamer the One like it but not for that trip
      Would not trust it. Have hilli soule to heavy for multi day. So was looking at a tent to fit me and kit but not weigh to much

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  Год назад +2

      @@thebayfish9508 The Anaris would be fine I reckon. It’s not the lightest trekking pole tent but it’s goddam strong. It’s swings and roundabouts. A great trip you have planned mate I’d like to follow that one.

  • @Ivorengland
    @Ivorengland 2 года назад +3

    Personally I think there is very little point comparing tents when one costs five times the cost of the other. If the quality of materials used in the Anaris were not massively improved over the Lanshan it would be shocking. Perhaps it would have been better to compare the Z Packs Duplex with the Hilleberg as it is about the same price and a similar size and type (trekking pole tent). There are differences that will attract different types of buyers e.g. The Duplex weighs 540 grams vs the Anaris at 1400 grams. The Duplex is single wall whereas the Anaris is double walled. The Duplex doesn’t hold water when wet as it is is made of Dyneema. The Anaris ‘may’ be tougher? Basically enough differences between them to interest somebody with £650 to spend on a tent. Sorry but that’s my view.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +2

      Ivor, you certainly don't have to apologise for having a view, far from it. I welcome any constructive comments. I get where you are are coming from but my rationale for doing this was being consistently told that this particular Lanshan was as good if not better than the Anaris, I want to see for myself. I'm still being told I am bias! I have heard many good things about the Dulex but it if truth be told, its not a like for like tent, the designs are miles apart plus I'm not into single skin tents and I don't have access to one and I wouldn't go out and buy one just to do a RUclips review. I just don't have that much loose change.
      This was just to prove to myself that I have made the right choice. Once again, thanks for your comment and you shouldn't feel guilty or apologise for posting it.

    • @kobold90
      @kobold90 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 Ivor is right. While pointing out why a more expensive product is fine, giving some advice which tent to choose in which situation might result in a great and interesting video.

  • @sebastianforbes1
    @sebastianforbes1 2 года назад +1

    why don't Hilleberg have a Lifetime warranty like Terra Nova - surely (when you consider the time value of money), it is factored into the price ?

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад

      It's not a question I can answer as I don't know and I don't work for Hilleberg but from experience their customer support is second to none. N

  • @eldubs
    @eldubs 3 года назад +1

    Do you have a link for where you bought it from please?(anaris)

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      www.tauntonleisure.com/camping-accessories/tents/hilleberg-anaris-tent--green__2604

    • @eldubs
      @eldubs 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 thanks! I didn't realise taunton leisure did the veterans discount!

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +1

      @@eldubs You need to call them and give them details of your Defence Discount Çard. If you don't have one, you should get one as they save you lots of money. Some companies don't advertise the fact they offer discounts, you always have to ask. I called and asked and they gave me 15%. So I got a £630 tent for £535, which made it very attractive to me.

  • @PrettyGreenMonk
    @PrettyGreenMonk 2 года назад +1

    Hazey outdoors took the lanshan out on highlands for 14 days thats nuff for me

  • @MichaelAndersen_DK
    @MichaelAndersen_DK 2 года назад

    Strange Hilleberg left out the pockets and the two way zipper. That can't really be that many grams.
    Nice comparison!

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад

      Yeah, I still can’t get my head around that but now when using it I don’t think about it as I’m used to it all now. I initially thought it was weight, particularly the zip but I’m not sure it would make much difference. Thanks for watching, much appreciated.

  • @theknowlodge8294
    @theknowlodge8294 3 года назад +3

    I do get a little tired of being lectured as to how stupid I am spending all that money on Hilleberg tents.
    Look - each to their own. But to my mind you can see where that money goes - Hilleberg tents are far better made, the company - by all accounts - do right by their employees and the customer service is on another level altogether.
    Be great to get to the day where we can all spend our hard earned money on what we want without judgement in either direction.
    Great vid, Mark. 🏕👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +3

      Thanks, buddy. Much appreciated. I totally agree, I don't think I will ever need to buy another tent, the three Hilleberg's I have will more than likely out live me. That's the type of quality you're paying for.

    • @theknowlodge8294
      @theknowlodge8294 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 - I said to my 7 year old on the last trip with our Keron….‘I hope one day you bring your own children here in this very tent, Gracie. And hopefully there will be room for an old man too…’ 😂
      As long as I survive to make it…..I have little doubt the tent will mate. 👍🏕💪

    • @gainesy_walks
      @gainesy_walks 3 года назад +2

      Good video Mark, fair sumation of both and spot on, and Dominic, absolutely spot on.
      I work hard and earn my brass, and now my kids are grown up, it's the only thing I spend my hard earned on, but it'll be around for along long time if I look after it. I think until some of the critics spend alot of time in a Hilleberg, or tbh other tents of similar price break and quality (especially if things end up a bit dicey) many don't appreciate what you're actually paying for.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      @@gainesy_walks I got a bet fed up of people telling me I paid an inflated price, I was throwing money at the name only and that there were better alternatives out there for a fraction of the price. So I thought I would put them side by side and see if I really was wasting money. The answer is no, I wasn't wasting money, the Hilleberg Anaris is quality at a fair price. I'm glad I did it.

    • @gainesy_walks
      @gainesy_walks 3 года назад +2

      @@QuakerJones268 it's like Dominic says, you shouldnt have to explain yourself and what you spend your money on. There is no way you pay for the name with Hilleberg, Terra Nova, Samaya or Nemo or such like. They're engineered products made from quality materials and for a purpose and longevity, and more importantly not sewn together by a kid for ten bob a day. People have got to think why these things are so cheap sometimes, everything has a cost , sometimes not monetary.

  • @waynerenshaw-multi-outdoor4521
    @waynerenshaw-multi-outdoor4521 3 года назад +1

    Looking at the Anaris you've no guy lines on the main section, if the wind was to hit that section, it would literally blow right in ... I have the Lanshan 2 in yellow and everything is well taught all around ...why you have sealant around the front of the tent , means you have the old style, the one I have is completely waterproof with no leaks at all ... I've slept in a thunder storm last year in Coniston and it was bomb proof... I bought my lanshan 2 on Amazon for £89.00 the trekking pole section has a loop where it's locked in solid and won't move, even in extreme conditions, the lanshan 2 has done well ... I've had North Face tents in the past... the lanshan 2 flysheet is very similar to the North Face... but looking at your lanshan it definitely looks like the older version.. as mine on the inside the bath tub walls are up and the facing walls are up when it's pegged out properly... but the main section on the Anaris there's nothing there to support it in extreme conditions whatsoever, and I've had loads of tents and before I buy, I do my homework on everything possible...
    Good vid 👌 but the Anaris well over priced and it's just the name your paying for at the end of the day, if you compared the both in extreme weather conditions, you maybe surprised how well the lanshan 2 is ... 😉🤟🙂👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      The main objective of doing the comparison was to see if the Anaris was over priced. In my opinion it definitely isn't. The quality of materials is far, far superior. I'm more than happy with the price now I have compared it to the Lanshan. 👍. Have you had the two side by side and done your own comparison?

    • @andykelly5242
      @andykelly5242 3 года назад +2

      This is an interesting video and an interesting thread.
      I bought an Anaris the week they came out and I've also owned a Hilleberg Nallo 2 for about 5 years which has been a truly incredible piece of kit.
      Hilleberg are expensive but anyone who thinks you are just paying for a name has obviously never owned one.
      Whether they are worth the money comes down to how often you use your tent and how long you want it to last. That pretty much solves the whole debate in 1 sentance.
      I've had cheaper less robust tents that work perfectly well... for a time. Then they fail and aren't good enough quality to repair properly. So they get scrapped and replaced which is not environmentally friendly.
      If you're an occassional camper then a Hilleberg would be overly expensive and hard to justify.
      If like me you spend more weekends in your tent than in your house then it is easy to justify and worth every penny.
      Where I do agree with your comment is regarding the absence of a guy line on the 2 sides of the Anaris. Personally I would have preferred guy lines to help keep the distance between the fly and the inner in wind.
      That said I've never had any issues with the inner getting wet or the tent not tolerating wind.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад

      @@andykelly5242 Thanks for your comment Andy, much appreciated. I totally agree with you regarding paying for the name, nothing could be further from the truth. My winter tent is the Nallo 2 and I agree, its an incredible piece of kit..

    • @kobold90
      @kobold90 2 года назад +1

      You know that the Anaris got tested in a wind tunnel during the development? If a guyline was necessary on the main section, there would be one.

  • @richardharrison5622
    @richardharrison5622 2 года назад

    Tell your mate Mark that the lanshan in the test doesn't even need seam sealing , it's taped 🤣
    It's only the pro version which is double coated silnylon that requires sealing 👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      Yeah we’ve already had that discussion. The thing is, my daughter now has that tent, I bought it off him. 👍

  • @jeffccr3620
    @jeffccr3620 3 года назад +1

    The only tent better than the Lanshan 2 pro is the Z pack duplex, but your talking about 400$ more just for Cuben fiber.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад

      The Anaris is definitely better than the Lanshan2, I cant comment on the Zpack duplex as I've never seen one.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад

      @social influenza We are blessed doing this hobby with a myriad of good quality tents. It would be pretty boring if we all had the same tent. I treat buying my camping gear the same as buying wine. I get the nicest one I like for a price I can afford.

  •  Год назад +1

    Also, the Hilleberg is made in Estonia where people have decent wages... these days I would not buy anything made in China.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  Год назад +1

      Many companies are shifting production to China these days. Personally I do t see that as a good thing

  • @mazenmehio
    @mazenmehio Год назад +2

    You’re comparing a 130$ tent to a 600$ one?

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  Год назад

      Yes I am. Did you watch the video? If you have you will understand why I did the comparison 👍🏼

  • @HaasGrotesk
    @HaasGrotesk 2 года назад +1

    This is a little like comparing what is best between a bicycle and a Ferrari on a bumpy dirt road. Both will work just fine but one of them is just overpriced and overbuilt and doesn't add much to the performance. Sure the Hilleberg has more durable material but Lanshan has durable enough material. The big question is, do you need more durable material? I hike in the Swedish mountains and use the Lanshan. It's plenty durable and handles high winds very well. Do I need a more durable tent. No. Not really. I do on the other hand like the weight and money saving.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      We all have different requirements and we all have different tastes. I like the Lanshan (I actually bought the one I used in the video for my daughter); but I would always choose to use my Anaris. If everyone bought Lanshan, how boring would the world be? I disagree regarding the Anaris being over priced. It's a good price for the quality of the goods you get.
      Going back to your analogy. A Ferrari wouldn't last 100m on a bumpy, dirt road.

  • @brockcamps4972
    @brockcamps4972 3 года назад +5

    Its 5 times the price. Thats like trying to compare a vw golf with an aston martin vantage. Most owners seem very impressed with lanshan tents. Of course if everyone was able to afford hilleberg that would be the preference. Is it five times better? I dont mean to be critical but its not a like for like comparison. Thoroughly enjoyed it non the less.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад +2

      I have been told on numerous occasions that the Lanshan is as good, if not better than the Anaris so I did the like for like comparison. Is it five times better? In my opinion yes it is but that doesn't make the Lanshan a bad tent, it isn't. Its like saying the Vango Banshee is a bad tent which we all know isn't. I personally think both the Lanshan and the Hillenerg Anaris are worth what people pay for them.

    • @brockcamps4972
      @brockcamps4972 3 года назад +3

      @@QuakerJones268 . That was probably the point i was trying to make but worded badly. I do apologise if it came across wrongly 👌

    • @FickleHead
      @FickleHead 2 года назад

      @@brockcamps4972 thats the point of the video. Comparing them. Lol.

  • @cumbriancamper
    @cumbriancamper 2 года назад +3

    I bought an anaris 3 weeks ago, no contest, why buy cheap chinese shite if you can afford a hilleberg, but each to there own, i love my anaris cheers

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      With these two tents it's a case of getting what you pay for, definitely. If someone would struggle to get the Anaris, go for the Lanshan, but don't expect you he same quality or spec. I have three Hilleberg's and the Anaris is my favourite.

    • @cumbriancamper
      @cumbriancamper 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 i have an unna i will use when it gets colder. Fantastic tents. 🐶👍

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад +1

      @@cumbriancamper I'll use my Nallo 2 when the bad weather comes, I'll stretch out using the Anaris as long as I can though. 👍

    • @cumbriancamper
      @cumbriancamper 2 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 aye the amount of space is cavernous

    • @deKampeerwijzer
      @deKampeerwijzer Год назад

      You say a lot “it seems” and “it looks”. Not what you’re basing this on. So it is a opinion, not facts, from somebody who bought this tent. Ever heard of cognitive dissonance?

  • @tomas_horn
    @tomas_horn 2 года назад +2

    Made in China vs. made in Estonia. That's enough reason to pay the premium. I own Hilleberg and the quality is top-notch.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  2 года назад

      Definitely can't argue with the quality. 👍

    • @georgemartin6389
      @georgemartin6389 2 года назад +1

      Estonia world renound for their production industry

    • @paulhulley5969
      @paulhulley5969 2 года назад

      I own a hilleberg soulo for winter and the lanshan 2;for the summer, love um both

  • @badfairy9554
    @badfairy9554 3 года назад +1

    Get a geertop.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  3 года назад

      They are not the design of tent that appeals to me, mate. 👍

    • @badfairy9554
      @badfairy9554 3 года назад +1

      @@QuakerJones268 If I am by my self I like the Geertop. so light and OK for 3 seasons. I have walking poles anyway.

  • @Martin-oz6lr
    @Martin-oz6lr 7 месяцев назад

    £600 with no guylines on the main walls absolutely no way would I waste my money. Massive design fault.

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  7 месяцев назад

      The reason it doesn’t have those guylines is because it doesn’t need them because of it’s better design. You’ve obviously tried using one right?

    • @Martin-oz6lr
      @Martin-oz6lr 7 месяцев назад

      @MarkJonesWildCamping-S41
      Nonsense, that tent will struggle in strong winds and will 100% rub off the inner tent. I don't need to own the tent to see what will "clearly" happen.

  • @davidisherwood3116
    @davidisherwood3116 4 месяца назад

    Comparing chalk and cheese... Buy the cheap one and use it but don't compare it to the anaris.... You'll be very disappointed... Hilleberg too expensive

    • @QuakerJones268
      @QuakerJones268  4 месяца назад

      Hilleberg are expensive but you get what you pay for. Buy cheap and you get what you pay for.