I overall agree, and I think you made a powerful demonstration by showing your CR without the gems. That said, I think they need to find ways to narrow the gap a little bit (between spenders and non-spenders, between hardcore grinders and more casual players). When you only play an hour or two a day, it can sometimes feel like you go a week or more without progress - the transition into each new hell level is especially brutal as a F2P.
I'm new but I don't feel like hell 1 to 2 was bad, I'm actually like touching on hell 3 which is why I'm kind of like 🐱¿ Hmm? Maybe things where different back then? Is that what's going on?
I can only play 3 - 4 hours daily... And it is much more difficult for me to farm items because I play solo 95% of the time... 5% - I sometimes got lucky if I find people with same goals as me grinding world map and dungeons...
Blizzard need to do this now for f2p players for hard-core. The gap is tremendous between p2w and f2p. It is just ridiculous how the game is running for many of f2p...there need to be have better drops of legends and legendary gems. The drops are next to nothing no matter how many rift runs you do.
Its all about the grinding. Nothing else actually. And luck, depends how lucky you are. Im F2P, 262 para, 5900CR, and I play a lot, between 5 to 15hours a day. Between HELL difficulties, when had to move to H5, from H4, I got help from Zero Empathy clan(Which I'm in it) Thanks to OraK, Vesper and PsiBlade especially. It can be rough farming, but its fine. Btw, Veiled, thanks for the videos, really good content
Still haven't found an ACTUALLY f2p who hit 1500 or higher reso, which directly effects not only dmg and health, but combat rating and magic find as well. Keep making this vid every month or two, but it still doesn't change the overly rediculous gap
Doing 1000s killstreaks now. Sometimes i get 0 leggos per hour, sometimes 5. For me maybe 3 leggos per hour is avg. No Warband and 0 MF. Dungeons are very frustrating, because you can run 10 without a single drop, and they are very boring. If you ever run a dungeon with a carry, then yes the runs are also 3 times faster. 23 hours to server paragon sounds extremely generous as well. I'm Paragon 91 now with 1740 CR.
Yep, I have the same experience now. My current paragon lvl is 106 and I've got treasure hunter activated so it helps a bit speed farming, but it is so hard to get more than 4 legendaries per hour ( including the beastiary drops). Idk if it's a hidden cap but progressing is getting ridiculous, most people with my current lvl have higher stats gear and reaching 2.5k CR. Sigh
Great info. I'm running as F2P as I can (love me that battlepass⚔🥰), so the 5 star gems are totally random... if at all, so I'm struggling abit with my main account as i rushed it a bit. Alt account is levelling up quickly with the boost. started at level 5 and am now at Paragon 1 after 48 hrs of grind and storyline finish. Nice to see a clear distinctive explanation of the differences between F2P and P2W investment time costs. i enjoy playing this game with my GF and its fun as F2P so all these tips and advice goes miles to help. keep up the awesome content!
More accurate way to know how many legendary items you've obtained is by adding the ones you have with your glowing and essences you have. Also add up the glowing you've used for slot upgrades. It will all add up except if you don't know how many set items you've obtained and salvaged and daily chest you've gained glowing from it won't be as accurate. Just a thought
While in theory what you said makes sense, but in practice not quite as much. I was doing the F2P grind while I was playing (quit the game now), with the basic free gems. I was at or higher than the server paragon level for the most part, and I found myself lower in combat rating then the required. For example, when I hit paragon 30, I found myself about 200 combat rating below the the H2 CR requirement, meaning I was not able to farm H2 at all. It took me and my friend a few days of farming to even catch up to the appropriate CR. The same thing happened when reaching H3. The point being, when we were behind the combat rating, farming was exponentially difficult and the climbing the CR took a long time. This slowed down how fast we could farm and how fast we could earn our Legendaries. Neither of us could solo anything, and we had to group up with ppl with high Resonance for a few days and get carried to the appropriate CR before we could start doing our own thing. Whereas, the ppl with resonance can easily catch up on higher CR and farm higher difficulty as well as kill mobs MUCH faster than us, thus getting more drops and higher legendary drop rates. The drop rate for gear/legendary with high resonance is higher than F2P, just because they have a higher CR, and can farm faster. It's easy to farm with high Legendary Gems and take the gems off to showcase your CR now. But the amount of time/grinding you have to do as a F2P vs P2W is very different. Both can grind for the same amount of time, and when you take off your Legendary gems, the player that farmed with gems will still have higher CR than the F2P player, just by the fact the P2W player was able to farm faster, and farm higher difficulty compared to the F2P player.
@@VeiledShot This is assuming that you are in a very compact place with 4-6 ppl farming. If you are solo farming or farming in groups of 2-3, you can't just tag and move on as they just don't die. What you are describing is the experience of someone that is already overgeared. For F2P that is just minimal CR, tag and move is not really an option unless you are being carried.
Your calculation was off! You got more legendary drops than F2P players because your high level gems BOOSTed your magic find rate. Equipping six rank5 5 star gems gave you 90% increase of magic find. If you could go farming equipping only 1 star legendary gems for a few hours, you would see much less legendary drop.
Unless he is a true FTP player, he won't have the same experience as an FTP person. I am an FTP (besides Cosmetics), and im Paragon 101 (~1,900 CR). I average about 2 Legendaries per hour on a good day. I have grinded for 6 hours on more than one occasion and not received one legendary. Claiming 6 per hour on FTP is not the same as what the rest of us true FTP are seeing.
@@karenpatrol3918 That is true, but that is only partial picture is what I am saying. Lets say I can kill 2000 mobs in a hour because it take me 2-3 skills to kill a pack as a 1-2 star gem player, a 5 star players can kill 3000 mobs because they can 1 shot a pack with 1 skill. Who is going to get more potential for legendaries? My only point is my results are not the same as Veiled's. I enjoy his videos and he has good content. I just see different results than he does as a FTP player and so does the other FTP persons I play with in my clan. I don't feel it is as valid when he said that "Oh, you just need to work harder and put in the time" when he is not leading by that example as FTP player and giving his results. If he was a 100% FTP giving advice and gave his actual results I wouldn't have a problem with this video. As I know his results wouldn't be as he is stating here.
Hi, Thanks great video as usual, one of the bad things about the XP bonus when you are begin the paragon level server is that you would level up to fast for the time you grind. so this mean less equipment you get..by the way i am Ok with this catch up mechanic but this is one of down side for this situation..
Great video. I wish Blizzard did something for most of the casual players who play solo or enjoy playing it that way, certainly some quests are needed to be done in groups and I think it's perfectly fine. However, I grinded all by myself up to paragon 105 and my current CR is only 2.2k, I still remember spending hours trying to clear small elites in hell 2 the first time and slowly getting better gear while other people get carried by their p2w friends so they end up with better stuff. Idk if I'm just unlucky, but finally after farming for while in hell 3 I've been upgrading my old legos with poor stats.
Solo challenge rift the required for unlocking next hell equivalent rewards from elder rift,bounties, gamble vendor. Those are gonna be easy to get possible upgrades first. Make sure you focus farm xp before set items.
I would love Blizzard to change the free daily crest to be Legendary. Letting F2P/casual spenders run one a day would both feel better and whet our appetites for doing more occasionally.
Did you mention to keep up your challenge rifts ?, so you get the gear appropriate to your level. Lvl 30 for hell 2 gear and so forth, otherwise like me spending 3 days grinding for nothing lol, wasn't getting better gear because of this fact.
Solo challenge rift. 140 for h5 gear. 90? For h4. 60 for h3 if I remember well. Perso i just did my h5. I’m too weak for h5 dungeon but legendaries dropped in elder rifts now been upgrades and easy to get vs h5 content. Gonna increase my cr that way
So Veiled I've heard that Magic find impacts how quickly you find those triple stat legendaries. So, that would, in fact, impact the overall time it takes you to get your combat rating up. Is that correct?
Magic find only applies to blues and yellows, has 0 effect on legendarys, this has been tested by at least 6 diiferent different heavy whales/content makers in alpha, beta and what we have today.
However, grinding hard-core will put you in a better position to crack the rng and find a good triple triple due to time spent, im a f2p necro with 2800 cr and I grind ALOT so I can deffo agree with most of what he's saying
@@pheonixdark2003 By the way I say this being over paragon 100 at this point myself. My CR is around 2780 - I haven't seen the real magic find tests and proof of it - I'd love to see that. Personally I leveled up my gems to rank 5 within a week of the game starting
What about the numbers on the gear? Should I care about life/damage or the score? I often get the gear with higher life but lower score. Also, does equipping gear with lower score or life/damage numbers mean you get overall lower tier gear drops (like it was in destiny at first). Or does the game tracks that you got higher gear at one point meaning it will still count towards higher drops?
Not just a lot of time, need a lot of chance also for exceptional items, or triple stats. Each time than I up new step (60/80/100 etc...) I have enough ressources to upgrade all 6 items directly but have 26xx is also because with your resonance your farm is more efficient because your dammages are really more higher than casual gamer like me (lvl 100 and 2450 gs). So, ok for hours farming but resonance have huge impact also, need to considerate it in your reflexion. Last point, your drop chance is increase with stones grade 5 with 5 or 10% bonus per each one, so 5 x 6 = 30% or 10 x 6 = 60%... so don't forget this also because casual is impossible to have 6 stones grade 5 after 1 and half month.
Yeah the monsters don’t spawn fast enough for your damage to make a difference. If they spawned instantly as soon as they died that would be true but it’s not.
Have you tried to use in PVE Conjuration of Light skill + Legendary chest - Justice without Favour? Keep in mind that you are still buffing the whole group so it will deal more than 100k+ damage without crits
Just curious doesn't magic find increase the chance of triple stat gear dropping more often? If so doesn't that also play a part? Just curious I'm paragon 102 with 2755cr with my gems equipped. I can imagine I'll lose about 200 or so cr rating with gems removed. I don't have many triple stats but I definitely world farm for many hours and getting tons of lego drops but sadly never really a big upgrade stat wise to boost my cr.
I have 90% magic find and can say in my experience that is the case. More often than not my Legos drop as double doubles with exceptional stats or triple double/triple. Even the poorly rolled ones drop that way. So when I get an upgrade it's MASSIVE. Because of the overall high quality of the fear I have on at any given time.
I've been farming plains of torment for 2 days now granted I've just only got into paragon lvls and I haven't seen 1 legendary drop plains I've done it by myself and joined a group that was farming and I still had no luck is it just cause the chance of it or is that low cause I farmed 4 their hours straight yesterday and didn't receive a single legendary
@@DEAD_Dirtynickjr ah okay. Feels sad that you seem to have had a mediocre experience. Seems you weren’t having drops. Perhaps taken wrong decisions as a lot isn’t explained learning this game and a lot of wrong misunderstandings or false thinking massively spread. Just like legendary gems. F2p. Magic finding. I bought passes. 2 chests. If you curious how you could like the game again I have a video explaining my gems. Their effects. How useful they are. And why I get magic find quicker instead of many 2star gems and none. They cost a lot more gem fragments to benefit from. Perhaps change class if you don’t enjoy. And for f2p I always have been stronger than most from the combination of 1star gems I use. Another big aspect is your shadow clan. Having a bond with them. Being part of one of the top 10 shadow clans. Being part of a warband. Actively doing 4 person activities. I like to gather warband for bounty hunting and then what not. I’m on rat king server ;p server transfers soon. Perhaps we might play one day. Cya
yes but also farm open world and redeem essence also do pvp 3/3 times you can get legend rewards and do ancient's event shadow contracts might drop them as well
im sorry but if i need to spend so many hours just to get such a small increase in CP then this is no longer a game but a job and the average person who actually has day or night jobs would not normally be able to do that so at that point this this pointless as a free to play.
combat rating wont help as much in pvp if your opponents have much more resonance lets say your 2500 combat rating and your opponent is 2400 combat rating but he has 3000 or more damage stat and about 20 k more hp and or possibly more
@@sephirothlv100 exactly, from a pvp standpoint you will always be 10 steps behind, at the start of game sure ftp no lifers were able to stand on top or even go toe to toe with the spenders, now that we are pass the month mark, where are they now?? its all pointless, your sacrificing your entire life just to have a 1% (if so much) chance to be even considered relevant and at this point, you cannot tell me nor convince me that skill trumps pure paid power lol. so in the end its all pointless. the gap will always be huge between the two.
He plays in a warband with 3 very high CR players of which some are also paying. In the time we run 1 dungeon they run 3. I once joined a group like that and could barely "tag" the bosses in the dungeon. That's nothing the avg player can do.
here's the real guide, spoon farm at night in library in party of 4, sell all the gems to your alts for plat, ur alts just rift farm 'fa' to make random legendary gems to sell. sell charms from main to alts for 2500, alts also buy out charms from hilt vendor and sell. thats around 4 gem power per day, wish they uncapped normal gem farm
Veiled shot, you mentioned you had a free to play account, why not show that account when making these “free to play” videos? Certainly you have to understand that when you were doing those heavy grind sessions it was with your pay to win gems equipped. You have to get that those gems help you farm faster and in more difficult areas. Simply removing the gems to show off the gear you acquired with the help of the pay to win gems is not a true comparison. Better gear helps. Farming longer helps. But having gems that allows you to farm those difficult zones easily allows you to get that gear and makes long grind sessions a breeze.
@@VeiledShot This comment confused me. Are you saying the content is super easy? Then why spend on legendary gems in the first place? It certainly wasn’t for pvp as we have seen what league you were playing in your PvP videos. I was also confused because I asked a very sensible question which was why didn’t you use your free to play account in making a video about free to play tactics? This wasn’t addressed at all in your response. My point about resonance from buying legendary crests to get legendary gems which helps easily farming gear is 100% true. I’ll say it again, simply popping the legendary gems out and then showing off the gear that was acquired while using those gems makes no sense and isn’t truly helpful to any free to play that’s struggling. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again some of your content is good. My comments are not to argue with you nor troll you they are simply to address issues that hopefully you can clear up in other videos to help everyone as much as possible, gain more subscribers and build your channel.
@@devastating6143 You just misunderstand how valuable/the advantages of the gems while farming. It's simply next to non-existent. It's useful for getting to that difficulty, but after the fact it provides next to no bonuses when referring to open-world farming and dungeon farming. I'll say this again, you as well as everyone else overestimate the effect of legendary gems in PvE content. They are basically combat rating boosters that allow you to access content sooner, but once you get there, I am equal to everyone else. As for the F2P content, it's already on the channel, and as for spending on legendary gems, I'm a content creator, it's for me to experience everything in the game, and to hopefully get early access for these zones. You can claim that you're not here to "troll" or "argue". But you as well as others simply misunderstand legendary gems and their effectiveness and then try to call out my content in order to vindicate yourselves. You can simply wait to see when I do have time to grind on my own F2P more, but by then everyone will come up with more ways to try and invalidate the content.
your logic is flawed, since all the pieces you wear are from hell 3, which boost your cr by a ton. the problem is getting to hell 3 with hell 2 gear, which initially has a lot less cr. while it is true that you can get better gear even in hell 2 with a higher paragon level, you still need to grind A LOT more since you still will get a lot of hell2 low stat items, which isnt the case when you farm hell 3.
You said we need to invest time to get gear upgrades but I don't think this is true. I'll give you my example.. I'm 100+ paragon with only 2019 CR whereas I have seen players having 90ish paragon with 2200+ CR. And I don't even claim my battlepass coins to farm paragon. Its just pure grinding( monstrous essence, dungeons, contracts etc.) and I'm not getting upgrade for my gears, Why? I'm still stuck at H2 and need 100+ CR to get into H3. Still don't know how I'm gonna get that much of CR since there are no upgrades drop from the game. FRUSTRATED😵💫😵
maybe you missed something here, yes you can grind as f2p coz you have a party of 4 that can boost you, f2p doesnt have that always, yes you will tell yiou can grind solo, but telling that at 60 you go hell1, and this folks that follow this would just die, why? becoz of their CR too low, if you can guide them as a F2P. on how you manage to get enough combat rating to solo next level then that would be an amazing content...saying oh your level 60 and go to hell1 now is not a good idea for f2p players
He never said that character was F2P … just because he spent money doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to play the game. He puts out some of the most helpful content on this game right now.
+ He Thinks that legendarys are just random drops when he got like 75% incresed magic find (5star any star at level 5 he got like 6 of those with a awaken item thats cost 1000 eternal if im not wrong) xD, you will learn when you know more about the game
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I overall agree, and I think you made a powerful demonstration by showing your CR without the gems. That said, I think they need to find ways to narrow the gap a little bit (between spenders and non-spenders, between hardcore grinders and more casual players). When you only play an hour or two a day, it can sometimes feel like you go a week or more without progress - the transition into each new hell level is especially brutal as a F2P.
Agreed.
I'm new but I don't feel like hell 1 to 2 was bad, I'm actually like touching on hell 3 which is why I'm kind of like 🐱¿ Hmm? Maybe things where different back then? Is that what's going on?
I can only play 3 - 4 hours daily... And it is much more difficult for me to farm items because I play solo 95% of the time... 5% - I sometimes got lucky if I find people with same goals as me grinding world map and dungeons...
Same here bro
Just grind realm of damnation in the plains of torment. I get tons of Legos a day even solo but you'll usually find a group
Party finder
@@IcyNipz Can't stress this enough. There's a lot more parties out there than the "find party" button would lead you to believe.
Same here
Blizzard need to do this now for f2p players for hard-core. The gap is tremendous between p2w and f2p. It is just ridiculous how the game is running for many of f2p...there need to be have better drops of legends and legendary gems. The drops are next to nothing no matter how many rift runs you do.
Its all about the grinding. Nothing else actually. And luck, depends how lucky you are. Im F2P, 262 para, 5900CR, and I play a lot, between 5 to 15hours a day. Between HELL difficulties, when had to move to H5, from H4, I got help from Zero Empathy clan(Which I'm in it) Thanks to OraK, Vesper and PsiBlade especially. It can be rough farming, but its fine. Btw, Veiled, thanks for the videos, really good content
Still haven't found an ACTUALLY f2p who hit 1500 or higher reso, which directly effects not only dmg and health, but combat rating and magic find as well. Keep making this vid every month or two, but it still doesn't change the overly rediculous gap
Doing 1000s killstreaks now. Sometimes i get 0 leggos per hour, sometimes 5.
For me maybe 3 leggos per hour is avg. No Warband and 0 MF.
Dungeons are very frustrating, because you can run 10 without a single drop, and they are very boring.
If you ever run a dungeon with a carry, then yes the runs are also 3 times faster.
23 hours to server paragon sounds extremely generous as well.
I'm Paragon 91 now with 1740 CR.
Yep, I have the same experience now. My current paragon lvl is 106 and I've got treasure hunter activated so it helps a bit speed farming, but it is so hard to get more than 4 legendaries per hour ( including the beastiary drops). Idk if it's a hidden cap but progressing is getting ridiculous, most people with my current lvl have higher stats gear and reaching 2.5k CR. Sigh
u are going to the two areas he said?
Great info. I'm running as F2P as I can (love me that battlepass⚔🥰), so the 5 star gems are totally random... if at all, so I'm struggling abit with my main account as i rushed it a bit. Alt account is levelling up quickly with the boost. started at level 5 and am now at Paragon 1 after 48 hrs of grind and storyline finish. Nice to see a clear distinctive explanation of the differences between F2P and P2W investment time costs. i enjoy playing this game with my GF and its fun as F2P so all these tips and advice goes miles to help.
keep up the awesome content!
More accurate way to know how many legendary items you've obtained is by adding the ones you have with your glowing and essences you have. Also add up the glowing you've used for slot upgrades. It will all add up except if you don't know how many set items you've obtained and salvaged and daily chest you've gained glowing from it won't be as accurate. Just a thought
While in theory what you said makes sense, but in practice not quite as much. I was doing the F2P grind while I was playing (quit the game now), with the basic free gems. I was at or higher than the server paragon level for the most part, and I found myself lower in combat rating then the required. For example, when I hit paragon 30, I found myself about 200 combat rating below the the H2 CR requirement, meaning I was not able to farm H2 at all. It took me and my friend a few days of farming to even catch up to the appropriate CR. The same thing happened when reaching H3.
The point being, when we were behind the combat rating, farming was exponentially difficult and the climbing the CR took a long time. This slowed down how fast we could farm and how fast we could earn our Legendaries. Neither of us could solo anything, and we had to group up with ppl with high Resonance for a few days and get carried to the appropriate CR before we could start doing our own thing. Whereas, the ppl with resonance can easily catch up on higher CR and farm higher difficulty as well as kill mobs MUCH faster than us, thus getting more drops and higher legendary drop rates.
The drop rate for gear/legendary with high resonance is higher than F2P, just because they have a higher CR, and can farm faster. It's easy to farm with high Legendary Gems and take the gems off to showcase your CR now. But the amount of time/grinding you have to do as a F2P vs P2W is very different. Both can grind for the same amount of time, and when you take off your Legendary gems, the player that farmed with gems will still have higher CR than the F2P player, just by the fact the P2W player was able to farm faster, and farm higher difficulty compared to the F2P player.
You don't farm faster in open-world. As you simply tag and mov eon.
@@VeiledShot This is assuming that you are in a very compact place with 4-6 ppl farming. If you are solo farming or farming in groups of 2-3, you can't just tag and move on as they just don't die. What you are describing is the experience of someone that is already overgeared. For F2P that is just minimal CR, tag and move is not really an option unless you are being carried.
@@RattleSnek You go to a popular spot and you tag monsters.
Your calculation was off! You got more legendary drops than F2P players because your high level gems BOOSTed your magic find rate. Equipping six rank5 5 star gems gave you 90% increase of magic find.
If you could go farming equipping only 1 star legendary gems for a few hours, you would see much less legendary drop.
Unless he is a true FTP player, he won't have the same experience as an FTP person. I am an FTP (besides Cosmetics), and im Paragon 101 (~1,900 CR). I average about 2 Legendaries per hour on a good day. I have grinded for 6 hours on more than one occasion and not received one legendary. Claiming 6 per hour on FTP is not the same as what the rest of us true FTP are seeing.
I dont think thats the case, i have 10% magic find and all my items are triple triple . Im paragon 103
You only get that magic find if you have them upgraded to that level which I do not.
@@openlanderz5430 you realize Magic Find does NOT increase the rate you find legends it only increases the quality of the legend.
@@karenpatrol3918 That is true, but that is only partial picture is what I am saying. Lets say I can kill 2000 mobs in a hour because it take me 2-3 skills to kill a pack as a 1-2 star gem player, a 5 star players can kill 3000 mobs because they can 1 shot a pack with 1 skill. Who is going to get more potential for legendaries? My only point is my results are not the same as Veiled's. I enjoy his videos and he has good content. I just see different results than he does as a FTP player and so does the other FTP persons I play with in my clan. I don't feel it is as valid when he said that "Oh, you just need to work harder and put in the time" when he is not leading by that example as FTP player and giving his results. If he was a 100% FTP giving advice and gave his actual results I wouldn't have a problem with this video. As I know his results wouldn't be as he is stating here.
Paragon 65 F2P and can play 1 or 2 hrs a day. Can't event play hell 2. Combat ratio 1150 Resonance 230
Hi, Thanks great video as usual, one of the bad things about the XP bonus when you are begin the paragon level server is that you would level up to fast for the time you grind. so this mean less equipment you get..by the way i am Ok with this catch up mechanic but this is one of down side for this situation..
Great video. I wish Blizzard did something for most of the casual players who play solo or enjoy playing it that way, certainly some quests are needed to be done in groups and I think it's perfectly fine. However, I grinded all by myself up to paragon 105 and my current CR is only 2.2k, I still remember spending hours trying to clear small elites in hell 2 the first time and slowly getting better gear while other people get carried by their p2w friends so they end up with better stuff.
Idk if I'm just unlucky, but finally after farming for while in hell 3 I've been upgrading my old legos with poor stats.
Solo challenge rift the required for unlocking next hell equivalent rewards from elder rift,bounties, gamble vendor. Those are gonna be easy to get possible upgrades first. Make sure you focus farm xp before set items.
I would love Blizzard to change the free daily crest to be Legendary. Letting F2P/casual spenders run one a day would both feel better and whet our appetites for doing more occasionally.
Agree
Did you mention to keep up your challenge rifts ?, so you get the gear appropriate to your level. Lvl 30 for hell 2 gear and so forth, otherwise like me spending 3 days grinding for nothing lol, wasn't getting better gear because of this fact.
Solo challenge rift. 140 for h5 gear. 90? For h4. 60 for h3 if I remember well. Perso i just did my h5. I’m too weak for h5 dungeon but legendaries dropped in elder rifts now been upgrades and easy to get vs h5 content. Gonna increase my cr that way
So Veiled I've heard that Magic find impacts how quickly you find those triple stat legendaries. So, that would, in fact, impact the overall time it takes you to get your combat rating up. Is that correct?
Was thinking same thing
I don’t have much magic find and didn’t get any until a couple weeks ago
Magic find only applies to blues and yellows, has 0 effect on legendarys, this has been tested by at least 6 diiferent different heavy whales/content makers in alpha, beta and what we have today.
However, grinding hard-core will put you in a better position to crack the rng and find a good triple triple due to time spent, im a f2p necro with 2800 cr and I grind ALOT so I can deffo agree with most of what he's saying
@@pheonixdark2003 By the way I say this being over paragon 100 at this point myself. My CR is around 2780 - I haven't seen the real magic find tests and proof of it - I'd love to see that. Personally I leveled up my gems to rank 5 within a week of the game starting
F2p here. Para 205, CR 2404. Hell 3
What about the numbers on the gear? Should I care about life/damage or the score? I often get the gear with higher life but lower score.
Also, does equipping gear with lower score or life/damage numbers mean you get overall lower tier gear drops (like it was in destiny at first). Or does the game tracks that you got higher gear at one point meaning it will still count towards higher drops?
The base score is everything about the combat rating . Even though life /damage is higher ,still base score is the most important .
Not just a lot of time, need a lot of chance also for exceptional items, or triple stats. Each time than I up new step (60/80/100 etc...) I have enough ressources to upgrade all 6 items directly but have 26xx is also because with your resonance your farm is more efficient because your dammages are really more higher than casual gamer like me (lvl 100 and 2450 gs). So, ok for hours farming but resonance have huge impact also, need to considerate it in your reflexion. Last point, your drop chance is increase with stones grade 5 with 5 or 10% bonus per each one, so 5 x 6 = 30% or 10 x 6 = 60%... so don't forget this also because casual is impossible to have 6 stones grade 5 after 1 and half month.
I don’t have 60% magic find. And the damage does not matter when concerning open world farming because I tag and move dealing 2k damage.
Yeah the monsters don’t spawn fast enough for your damage to make a difference. If they spawned instantly as soon as they died that would be true but it’s not.
Have you tried to use in PVE Conjuration of Light skill + Legendary chest - Justice without Favour?
Keep in mind that you are still buffing the whole group so it will deal more than 100k+ damage without crits
Just curious doesn't magic find increase the chance of triple stat gear dropping more often? If so doesn't that also play a part? Just curious I'm paragon 102 with 2755cr with my gems equipped. I can imagine I'll lose about 200 or so cr rating with gems removed. I don't have many triple stats but I definitely world farm for many hours and getting tons of lego drops but sadly never really a big upgrade stat wise to boost my cr.
Someone said that this was in fact the case. I have focused on getting my gems to 5 star for the Magic find - this helps even if they are 1 star
I have 90% magic find and can say in my experience that is the case. More often than not my Legos drop as double doubles with exceptional stats or triple double/triple. Even the poorly rolled ones drop that way. So when I get an upgrade it's MASSIVE. Because of the overall high quality of the fear I have on at any given time.
How do you know of the gear is exceptional?
The game tells you after your object is identified
And you have 3 bonus lines by item !
Right when you identify an item it will give an exceptional message, that can mean it’s either a triple stat drop or a high two stat.
What magic find does them? I was thinking it gives you better items 🤔
I'm at 2698 btw, as a f2p
We don't know for sure, but supposedly it increases the quality of your gear.
Play 3-4 hours a day averaging 1-2 legos per hour got 1 legendary Sun-sat rng cursed
I've been farming plains of torment for 2 days now granted I've just only got into paragon lvls and I haven't seen 1 legendary drop plains I've done it by myself and joined a group that was farming and I still had no luck is it just cause the chance of it or is that low cause I farmed 4 their hours straight yesterday and didn't receive a single legendary
I’d recommend using treasure hunter paragon tree but also have magic find from ur gems. Perhaps have a 4/4 warband group to benefit 5% magic find.
I've given up this game got boring way to fast
@@DEAD_Dirtynickjr ah okay. Feels sad that you seem to have had a mediocre experience. Seems you weren’t having drops. Perhaps taken wrong decisions as a lot isn’t explained learning this game and a lot of wrong misunderstandings or false thinking massively spread. Just like legendary gems. F2p. Magic finding. I bought passes. 2 chests. If you curious how you could like the game again I have a video explaining my gems. Their effects. How useful they are. And why I get magic find quicker instead of many 2star gems and none. They cost a lot more gem fragments to benefit from. Perhaps change class if you don’t enjoy. And for f2p I always have been stronger than most from the combination of 1star gems I use. Another big aspect is your shadow clan. Having a bond with them. Being part of one of the top 10 shadow clans. Being part of a warband. Actively doing 4 person activities. I like to gather warband for bounty hunting and then what not. I’m on rat king server ;p server transfers soon. Perhaps we might play one day. Cya
@@phantom_shoota731 you play in vastly?
*vasily
Been stuck around 1k CR for awhile, just managed to clear rift 30 should I be farming dungeons to make it to 1200?
If you just hit 30 you’ll start getting upgrades soon. Gamble a little
yes but also farm open world and redeem essence also do pvp 3/3 times you can get legend rewards and do ancient's event shadow contracts might drop them as well
im sorry but if i need to spend so many hours just to get such a small increase in CP then this is no longer a game but a job and the average person who actually has day or night jobs would not normally be able to do that so at that point this this pointless as a free to play.
combat rating wont help as much in pvp if your opponents have much more resonance lets say your 2500 combat rating and your opponent is 2400 combat rating but he has 3000 or more damage stat and about 20 k more hp and or possibly more
@@sephirothlv100 exactly, from a pvp standpoint you will always be 10 steps behind, at the start of game sure ftp no lifers were able to stand on top or even go toe to toe with the spenders, now that we are pass the month mark, where are they now?? its all pointless, your sacrificing your entire life just to have a 1% (if so much) chance to be even considered relevant and at this point, you cannot tell me nor convince me that skill trumps pure paid power lol. so in the end its all pointless. the gap will always be huge between the two.
You can play casually and get there, but it will take a lot more time.
I really don’t know what game he’s playing I’m lucky to get 2 legendarys per hour
Honestly. He isn’t wrong to say this it all depends who you play with and how you grind.
You're crazy. U doing something wrong. Farm plains of torment in realm and join a Group. At minimum 3-4 an hour
Farm open world in a group of 4 and you will get a lot more ancient elites which means more legos.
He plays in a warband with 3 very high CR players of which some are also paying.
In the time we run 1 dungeon they run 3.
I once joined a group like that and could barely "tag" the bosses in the dungeon.
That's nothing the avg player can do.
@@GnomeEU sure for dungeons, but open world pretty much anyone can farm at the speed monsters spawn.
Plains of torment first hour 5 legendaries next 3 hours nothing...
I'm 1335 CR and 109 Paragon. I think I'm doing something wrong :X
here's the real guide, spoon farm at night in library in party of 4, sell all the gems to your alts for plat, ur alts just rift farm 'fa' to make random legendary gems to sell. sell charms from main to alts for 2500, alts also buy out charms from hilt vendor and sell. thats around 4 gem power per day, wish they uncapped normal gem farm
Don’t tell them my secrets. Currently hoarding 300k plat using this method on 8 accounts. 🤫
hm must be nice to actually find a party consistantly to actually try farming dungeons...
Open world farming is generally out of the question for me cos 99 percent of the time I just can't find party members
i just make some alts and farm platinum for my main
Veiled shot, you mentioned you had a free to play account, why not show that account when making these “free to play” videos? Certainly you have to understand that when you were doing those heavy grind sessions it was with your pay to win gems equipped.
You have to get that those gems help you farm faster and in more difficult areas. Simply removing the gems to show off the gear you acquired with the help of the pay to win gems is not a true comparison.
Better gear helps. Farming longer helps. But having gems that allows you to farm those difficult zones easily allows you to get that gear and makes long grind sessions a breeze.
The content is so easy that this "better gear" doesn't apply, but people will find any excuse.
@@VeiledShot This comment confused me. Are you saying the content is super easy? Then why spend on legendary gems in the first place? It certainly wasn’t for pvp as we have seen what league you were playing in your PvP videos.
I was also confused because I asked a very sensible question which was why didn’t you use your free to play account in making a video about free to play tactics? This wasn’t addressed at all in your response.
My point about resonance from buying legendary crests to get legendary gems which helps easily farming gear is 100% true. I’ll say it again, simply popping the legendary gems out and then showing off the gear that was acquired while using those gems makes no sense and isn’t truly helpful to any free to play that’s struggling.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again some of your content is good. My comments are not to argue with you nor troll you they are simply to address issues that hopefully you can clear up in other videos to help everyone as much as possible, gain more subscribers and build your channel.
@@devastating6143 You just misunderstand how valuable/the advantages of the gems while farming. It's simply next to non-existent. It's useful for getting to that difficulty, but after the fact it provides next to no bonuses when referring to open-world farming and dungeon farming. I'll say this again, you as well as everyone else overestimate the effect of legendary gems in PvE content. They are basically combat rating boosters that allow you to access content sooner, but once you get there, I am equal to everyone else. As for the F2P content, it's already on the channel, and as for spending on legendary gems, I'm a content creator, it's for me to experience everything in the game, and to hopefully get early access for these zones.
You can claim that you're not here to "troll" or "argue". But you as well as others simply misunderstand legendary gems and their effectiveness and then try to call out my content in order to vindicate yourselves. You can simply wait to see when I do have time to grind on my own F2P more, but by then everyone will come up with more ways to try and invalidate the content.
your logic is flawed, since all the pieces you wear are from hell 3, which boost your cr by a ton. the problem is getting to hell 3 with hell 2 gear, which initially has a lot less cr. while it is true that you can get better gear even in hell 2 with a higher paragon level, you still need to grind A LOT more since you still will get a lot of hell2 low stat items, which isnt the case when you farm hell 3.
Logic is not flawed, as my CR would have been by far good enough at H2 already.
One question.. WHY? Why grind so crazy. Where is the race to? There is no feasable finish line. I guess burn out is to be expected.
You said we need to invest time to get gear upgrades but I don't think this is true. I'll give you my example.. I'm 100+ paragon with only 2019 CR whereas I have seen players having 90ish paragon with 2200+ CR. And I don't even claim my battlepass coins to farm paragon. Its just pure grinding( monstrous essence, dungeons, contracts etc.) and I'm not getting upgrade for my gears, Why? I'm still stuck at H2 and need 100+ CR to get into H3. Still don't know how I'm gonna get that much of CR since there are no upgrades drop from the game. FRUSTRATED😵💫😵
Ok WAIT!!!
I farm realm of damnation. I’m f2p and I barely ever get legendaries.
You said you get 6 per hour. How???
maybe you missed something here, yes you can grind as f2p coz you have a party of 4 that can boost you, f2p doesnt have that always, yes you will tell yiou can grind solo, but telling that at 60 you go hell1, and this folks that follow this would just die, why? becoz of their CR too low, if you can guide them as a F2P. on how you manage to get enough combat rating to solo next level then that would be an amazing content...saying oh your level 60 and go to hell1 now is not a good idea for f2p players
Maybe you missed something. As soon as you hit 60 you'll have the CR to go and farm Hell 1 as F2P.
You did something wrong man if you're level 60 and cannot do Hell 1.
Im F2P and when i hit level 60 i switched to Hell 1 immediately.
This guy cracks me up bc he acts like he free play or barely paying when he got prob 3k in game
Higher paragon = higher stats = higher combat rating
day 9, i still havet yet got my arrowkeeper
6 an hour I grinding for hours and got nothing... using 98 points on treasure hunter lol
Lmao how do u have 400 glowing shades have u not used one.. I just hit 100 and in short on th ose and others for upgrading to 12. Your a hacker bro
F2P good joke you spend money on that account i see
He never said that character was F2P … just because he spent money doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to play the game. He puts out some of the most helpful content on this game right now.
@@bobb.3866 Good joke. 75% gold xD
+ He Thinks that legendarys are just random drops when he got like 75% incresed magic find (5star any star at level 5 he got like 6 of those with a awaken item thats cost 1000 eternal if im not wrong) xD, you will learn when you know more about the game
I don't know why keep getting this as recommended videos. I am not subscribed and I find this information to be incorrect. This is just some random guy given his opinion which isn't very good. I really don't want to see these recommendations from this trash channel any more
Thanks for the view
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F2P? Ahahahah ridicolo