Dobro Guitar Setup, inspection, crappy demo and hardcore Q-ball attack!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2015
- Dobro Round Neck Guitar Setup and Inspection. A look inside a resonator guitar and how they work, and a Q-ball explosion in full swing with backup harmonies by Zeke and myself!!
Right on Randy! Thanks for your know-how, humor and grace!
Thanks Randy! This was brilliant info that I couldn't find ANYWHERE!! I had no idea that the hole in the cover hand rest was for cone adjustment! The intonation was slightly out on my Dobro but shifting the spider and saddle(s) ever such a tiny amount has corrected it! Massive thumbs up!! 👍👍👍👍👍
Very cool I'm gllad the video was helpful! Thanks for checking it out! I'm glad to hear it! I love these guitars when they're set up right, the sound they have can't be beat. Thanks again Paul!
Quite a treat watching the display of that dobro's inner works ,it is quite different that guitar's construction but relates in so similar aspects , interesting video Randy. Thanks and continue success on your healing hand. Thank you.
+GILLEBRATH Thanks for the good wishes, watching and commenting my friend! I figured someone might like to see the inner workings of these guitars. I wish I could have played it better, I'll probably make a video playing it when my hand is finally healed.
Thanks for the info! Helped me fix my buzz issue on my Gretsch reso. Thumbs up!
loved the video and great voice and pickin
Dobro sounded good. Your playing sounded good too in spite of the pain in your hand.
Thanks for taking the time to post a new video.
Cheers
+crazyuncleduke9 Thank you my friend for the kind words! And I also appreciate you watching and commenting. I'll try to make another music video with this guitar once my hand is normal again, this things sounds awesome! Cheers brother!
Fascinating guitar... I'm glad to discover more about its anatomy! Your demo is awesome, Hey Randy, Don't think twice, you do alright... Cheers! 🎵🎵🎵
haha don't think twice :P thank you Nicole for checking out this video! cheers!
Had the same model back in the day and wish I still had it. Great twang box.
Very knowledgeable. Thank you. Great playing too.
thank you Adam! and thanks for checking out my videos!
thank you. love the info sorry about your hope to gets better. my table saw decided to taste me but i will be back on it again i will learn
Great video! Nicely done!
+Musician WilliamLK Thank you my friend for taking time to watch and comment!
That was great Randy, keep on keepin on brother...
thank you Tom! and thanks for checking out my videos!
Great sounds of this Dorbro...and you know how to play it..Hope we hear your sing more.
+CrawfishParish Thank you man for watching and commenting! I'll try to do more playing and singing stuff when my hand gets a little better, this guitar is fun to play on.
Clean up looked nice and sounds good to!
+KY. T.O. Thanks mate, I wish I could have played it better, maybe when my hand heals completely I'll do a music video with this box. Thanks for tuning in and commenting!
I've always loved the sound of a resonator guitar; especially the metal bodied National Resophonics.
Great video, Randy! I´m sorry to hear that your hand heals so slowly! I wish it would go faster! And thanks for the Q-Ball action at the end, lol :-) Much noise going on :-) :-) Wishing you a happy new week, my friend.....Jenny ☼♫
+JennysCountryChannel Thank you Jenny! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment! Hand is a wee bit better but sure is slow about it. Q-ball in full swing, we were trying to get harmony! LOL! Hope you're having a great week as well! :-)
Really interesting to get a look inside of that resonator. I know it's frustrating, but it looks like your hand is on the mend. I really enjoyed this video brother, I think you'll be back to good in no time!
+guitarstruggles Hey brother thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Yeah it's healing but slow, I wish I could speed it up somehow, wanna play some guitar bad but can't.
Wow!!! I finally got a chance to watch the full video all in one sitting & wow! Just wow! That is great polish isn't it? But only as good as the guy applying it! *wink* I couldn't believe the shine on that thing when you were finished! Just gorgeous!!
And ha, I chuckled when you thought it was a good idea to put the bridge back in because that would have been me for sure. Get everything put back together & end up with 'extra parts' when I'm done. In fact, I'm the queen of extra pieces... done that so many times...lol!
Your hand does amazing friend, considering what you're dealing with plus slamming it in the truck door? I know you're impatient to get back to better, but you have to give yourself more credit - you sound amazing!!
I loved the serenade by the pooches at the end too...you need to get them a contract with a recording company. They sound better than a lot of 'singers' I hear on radio now. =D
Thanks so much for sharing this. I am sharing it with my friend who's trying to do her own restoration on her resonator guitar too...maybe this will be further inspiration for her too. We all need that, huh?
~G~ ♪
+Gingerjake2 Thank you Ginger for the kind words and thoughts! Someone told me about this polish back when I was playing banjo, they said it really did a number on nickle and chrome. So I bought this tube and been using it (the same tube) ever since! lol It;s amazing what a little bit it takes to get the job done! The Dobro, I walked into a music store to get strings and saw it out on the floor on a stand wish a $900 tag on it, picked it up and it sounded wonderful but the strings were rusty and the setup was awful! I played it a few minutes until the store owner came back where I was. I had already checked to see if I had that much money with me or not and didn't have, so I told him "I'll gice you $700 right now take it or leave it" and he immediately said SOLD! lmao! He knew it needed setup bad and rather than pay me for the setup he sold me the guitar! haha! It's the same one you hear on the Wolf Creek cd.
If it makes you feel any better, MANY times I have parts left over too! lol Thanks again for watching my friend I appreciate it more than you know!
Randy Schartiger
That's good to know...hehe. My grandfather taught me to fix things when I was a kid. He said any female that can't fix a lamp or change a fuse deserves to sit in the dark, & any male who can't cook deserves to starve to death. Tough love but there was always those extra parts! =D
Don't you wonder sometimes if people even know what they have in their possession? I've heard so many people say they get good guitars at barn sales or flea markets for little to no money. How come I'm never that lucky! *quirked eyebrow*
That is one pretty Dobro tho'... I did give a link to my friend so hopefully she'll look in on it too.
Speaking of Wolf Creek cd...*hint* Just kidding look after hand first!
~G~ ♪
Absolutely fantastic Randy. I just bought a resonator guitar and I love your rendition of Mr. Dylans song. It was better than 'alright'.
Peace from Ireland, another like for another great video. Thanks Sir.
Edit: Your playing did NOT suck. A bit rusty maybe but definitely did not suck!
You can use the tension screw screwed into the cone hole a tad to move the cone around!
Hi Randy. You appear to screw the spider to cone screw very tightly before stringing the guitar. I have a Crafters of Tennessee round neck resonator, and the first and second unwound strings have always sounded very harsh. I only give the cone screw about a full turn after seating the screw. After watching the video, I decided to take the risk and give my screw another full turn and half. Fixed my issue on first 2 strings! How do you decide how many turns on the screw, and not damage the cone?
digging that Dobro.QbAll oh Qball your my best friend. good stuff.thanks Randy.
+Stephen Quail Thank you Stephen! More Q-ball to come! :)
Hi Randy! Is so good yo see you around again. Gosh is a beautiful Resonator - most of the ones I have seen are metallic. Great singing and playing as always but give your hand the necessary balance of rest and exercise please. Take care my friend!
+Cesar Blues Guitar Thank you bro! I appreciate the kind words and thoughts, thanks also for watching and commenting! I'm gonna make another video of this guitar in a few weeks when I can play it, hopefully do it a little more justice. What I played here is about as long as I can stand it in one sitting. Thanks again mate!
Nice.Slightly heavier roundwound strings/fingerpicks to improve volume and clarity?.I've got hand problems at 67 in England(plastic left wristbone from 1983 due to mining accident and a bad accident in early noughtles ie right severed radial nerve necessitating tendon transfers).Picking guitar/banjo,singing and yodelling pretty good though.Any ideas re a problem I have with a bought new/not abused bluegrass-tuned original cone(with an older Quarterman sitting in a drawer)OMIC Dobro 60WS Squareneck.Clear notes at frets 11 and 13.No matter what string gauge/bar weight a dull thunk at 12/the octave.Happy Festive Season,Nick.
Great video - your accent reminds me of the Appalachian Mountains - I sure miss my old friend Ralph Stanley.
I've been wanting a reso for a while now. Im afraid of other peoples problem so I'm looking to buy new. You've taught me a lot!! Thank you, thank you!!! I'm looking for a reso with solid top, bottom and sides with nitro finish. I want standard parts so upgrades may be wanted in the future. But I cant spend $1K either. Any recommendations?
Thanks very much Randy!Hopefully your advice will help me for my cheap Harley Benton resonator.I'll let you know.
good luck man! thanks for checking out my videos!
I have always wondered how the Dobro is constructed compared to a standard acoustic guitar. Good job singing and playing went well with that sore hand.
+Dale Palmer Thanks Dale! I appreciate you watching and commenting! I was hoping this video might be interesting for those not familiar with the inner workings of resonator guitars, yeah they are quite different than a normal guitar inside. Thanks again for tuning in!
You have a lovely singing voice, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences, this is what makes RUclipsr 👍
I have a reasonator guitar and action is high and this make guitar quite painful to play, interesting that you suffered likewise.
Keep posting videos. I bid u greetings from Ireland
thanks so much my friend, I love these resonator guitars! they have a sound like no other! thanks for checking out my videos!
That dog is priceless!
Color looks good on your hand. take it easy bro on the dobro ;)
I always wondered what those things looked like inside.
+Richard Kurbis (PAINFINGER) It's not purple anymore lol still hurts like a mother tho, what I tried to play here is about my limit for one sitting. It's coming but very slowly. Thanks for watching and commenting bro!
John Dopyera and his brothers Rudy and Emil, 3 out of the 10 sons a Slovak named Jozef Dopyera had. Also the inventors of an electrified spanish guitar among other nice loud instruments (not of destruction as Arlo would say)
It looks like the cone diameter is a little too big for the routed out ledge that it sits in. It appears that it doesn't move around and that will limit the sound - will compress its soul. You can use a router to make the hole a bit wider in diameter or use scissors to trim away a little bit of the lip. If you put the cone adjusting screw back in the cone after removing the spider, you can remove the cone that way rather than with a toothpick. Also, the cone looks like it's been through hell and if it were replaced, it would probably give you a bigger sound.
Hi there Randy just wondering can you answer a question how can you lower the action or the string height on the resonator
The BRYDEN
Thanks David 😊😀
Hi again Randy, another good video. You've mentioned your hand giving you problems a couple of times. What's wrong?
I had some trouble too (bent fingers called a Dupuytrens contracture) which was operated on and although I can play again now, there's a lot of stuff I can no longer do. Mind you, that could be because I'm older! So I wish you well with your recovery, I like your playing even if you think it's no good. Keep going!
Thanks for you comment Martin! About 5 years ago I was diagnosed with Focal Dystonia in both hands, I knew something was changing very badly with them years ago. There is no cure for the disease and believe me it's a musicians nightmare! All I can do is try to learn to play with different technique, retraining my hands all over again the docs said is the only chance of hope I have, so I've been doing that. Then September a year ago one of my grandsons accidentally closed a car door on my left hand! Didn't break anything but sure didn't do it any good and set me back another year.
Sorry to hear about that Randy... the permanence of it. I wish you well. You seem to be re-learning well, up to a standard where you can play with others again. That's what I do now.
Cheers.
Nice job Randy! I just bought a 1990 OMI Dobro and it needed every bit of your instructions for clean up and re stringing. I used regular Elixir strings does it make a lot of difference using Reso strings? My dobro has a solid maple saddle. Should I upgrade to the Ebony/maple? I thought this would be louder and I have some concerns on string height. Thanks again!
Making sure the cone is clean and spider (assuming it's not a biscuit set up) fits snugly and flat around the edges of the cone can make all the difference in the world in volume and tone. Elixir strings never did sound very good on my Dobro guitar, I think because of the coating dampens them, I've found that Martins MSP lifespan strings sound much better, granted they don't last as long but being treated they do last longer than a normal string. Yes, Ebony/maple saddle would probably help a good bit. Thanks for checking out my video!
Thanks for the advice Randy. I have been watching a lot of your videos. I have always wanted to learn how to do guitar set ups. Seems like you can never find a good set up guy these days. I ordered a string action ruler to check the Dobro string height. Seems like the release is fine on the neck. Maybe some bridge adjustment. I will look at that when I replace it with the ebony/maple.
i have a dobro from the 20s or 30s, it was my great grandfathers. it doesn't have the plate on the head to take off to show the truss rod, any idea how I would access the truss rod? the action is crazy high, almost unplayable.
Hey Randy, ain't you supposed to have a spring on the adjustment screw between the cone and spider?
Never ever tighten it the way he did...oh my god..wrong wrong wrong...
I have a Regal-Round-Neck, that I Converted to Play Hawaiian...Well, Bluegrass-With a Bar.
But I MADE a Nut out of a Corian-Blank. [originally Cut for Turning a Pen/Pencil Set]
Same String Spacing as on a Dobro.
Therefore-Same Width-So there's a Slight bit outside the Fingerboard on either Side.
But it's Not Quite as High.
Playing Uncle-Josh Style, I use Resonator Semi-Flats from D' Addario.
I also made a Maple/Ebony Bridge for It.
I find it's just as Easy to keep the Metal Clean with a Damp MAGIC ERASER, and to then Dry it, with a Facecloth.
And in between to Keep Dust out of the Reso-Cone, I go Outside and hold the Guitar Upside Down. and Blow that Out with Canned Air, which I get from the $ Store.
Just watch Your Eyes for that Dust!
Yours sounds Sweet-Sorry about Your Hand!
:(
I found his very interesting. I just got my first reso...a Regal RC 51, a tri cone. Not the best, not the worst. My understanding of the mechanics of these guitars is limited, so forgive a potentially rudimentary question. How does one approach the action? Is it all about nut and saddle cut? Or do you lay veneer perhaps in that slot where the saddle sits? I haven't popped the hood on mine cuz im from the "if it aint broke, don't mess with it" crowd. But im very curious about that point and google surprisingly doesn't always answer a direct question.
Yep nut, saddle and neck relief to adjust action, there is sometimes a split saddle (such as this guitar) that sets on a biscuit or spider, sand bottom of saddle to lower, if action needs raise I'd recommend buying a new one and sanding down instead of putting spacers or anything under them.
I was afraid of that. I know a veneer boost would work against the sound. Inconvenient 20s technology but im having fun. Thanks for responding. Id really like to see you noodle some more on the Dobro. Keep up the good work. Enjoy your channel
Now I want one of those;-)
+Woodeso's Guitar Mods They are really addictive! I love to electrify them they're awesome thru an amp or sound system! Thanks for tuning in mate!
Greetings brother... I just bought an Epiphone Dobro... it has the badge on the headstock, so I am assuming that Epiphone has the rights to the name, is that correct? BTW, mine sounds freaking awesome, right out of the box... apparently it came strung with .16 gauge strings! It plays more like it has .11s or .12s! Thank you for the entire in depth tour through the guts... I came here to find out what the lil hole over the bridge was for, and got a whole lot more... BTW, apart from the glossy burst finish, my guitar essentially has the same appointments... needless to say, I am completely enamored with my new guitar paramore...
How do you measure for the intonation for this from the nut and 12 fret and sadle can any one tell me
Good video Randy,Look's like your hand Is a little better it will take a while to heal. I have a Dobro like yours mine is a square neck F60-1986 I bought from Mandolin Brothers in NY.Don't hurt that hand before it get's better.)))
+Steve Harris I wish mine was a square neck! I had one but sold it a few years back, man what a mistake that was! I'd like to see yours, I looked at your channel but couldn't find any of the dobro videos I thought you had. They are awesome instruments! Thanks for watching Steve and commenting!
You can always use the thin bolt (which you took out) to carry the cone out with ease.
+romulo de peralta Good call, I should have screwed the screw back in and lifted the whole thing out.
Hello RandyNice job on the Dobro. What did you do to you hand? I've noticed in several videos you mention pain in your hand and I was just wondering what happened.
+William Castleberry Hi William, 3 years ago was diagnosed with focal dystonia in both hands, worse in my left, but a few months ago one of my grandsons accidentally closed a car door on my left hand and really did a number on it. I've hardly been able to play since that happened. It''s finally getting better but still gives me fits. Thanks for watching and asking. :)
I feel for you Randy. I have DDD in my back. And DJD in my knees, shoulders, and elbows. It has forced me into retirement. I can't even pick up my small pancake compressor, let a lone my Crate Bass Amp. I switch back to 6 string guitar because of the weight on my shoulder, (thought it would help, it didn't. I don't think I could do a 4 hr gig now). To top it off I've got corporal tunnel in my middle and ring fingers of the left hand now. Damn If I ain't just falling apart. LOL
Just hang in there
William Castleberry
haha I know what you mean, you just have to laugh and try to go on and deal with it best you can. I'm sure you've experienced the anxiety and depression that goes along with it all too. Kinda like the old saying, lifes a bitch and then ya die. lol seems to be about the size of it.
LOL . You got that right.
My old Fender (Resonator Guitar) looks just like your Dobro, just all black, and the holes next to the neck are formed more like a capital F (for Fender I guess...)
I see this was years ago.
I hope your hand is ok.
Physical set backs are just no fair.
I thought RUclips threw me a curve with the computer stuff.
I reckon bird shot is not enough and buck shot is overkill. Turky shot should remove that distraction.
My wife has been after me to get a National Steel for some 40 years.
She bought me one, just now.
A Gretsch Boxcar.
Lucky me!
Now, I up and tuned it to standard tuning and then to open E.
Going back to G or open E it buzzes like mad and the action seems lower.
I guess I hit the wall on the learning curve.
Any idea how to get it back?
Tightening the screw one turn got rid of most of the buzz.
But now it seems fret buzz is part of it.
Give your pup the vote.
They are better than people.
Regards Chris
Nice,demo,cute,dog,hope your hand heals up nicely,but,I was looking for a demo on replacing the bridge,on a biscuit,resonator ,I have a republic,parlor guitar,from ebay an it looks a little funky,there's no ebony,on it an you can see a little nail kind of sticking out the side of it.,but it plays,just got it ,I also used linseed oil on the frets,an mother's on the fret wires.well best to ya thanks.
+neonlittledog I worked on a biscuit type resonator guitar this past summer but don't remember if I videoed it or not, I'm trying to find the file but either I lost it or didn't film it at all. Thanks for checking out my video and commenting and good luck with getting yours fixed.
The cone is collapsed because the spider screw was too tight. It’s supposed to only be tensioned one and 1/2 turns after it seats max.
I found a Hawaiian Reso locally...really old...I thought I'd check it out...anything that I need to be aware of regarding Resos other than what your vid said to look for when buying used?
the cones in some of the old reso are notorious to collapse over time, buying used I would definitely check the cone even if the guitar sounds pretty decent, if collapsed, it's amazing how much better a new name brand cone like Beard cones can make them sound.
It takes a while to come to a decision but I've decided that I want something without potential problems...I'd rather buy newer. Would you recommend some brands/price point over others...what price point can you notice a quality difference?
"Ive had this shit 30 years or more!"
Made me laugh so much.
I spat my tea out.
Haha!!
Great vid.
Thanks.
+GediSpock lmao thanks for checking it out mate! :)
@@RandySchartiger how do you adjust the action? I have 1 of mine that the action is super high.. I like to switch back n forth from slide to picking so it's kinda important! Great vid!!
@@geraldpierson5883 you have to take the saddle out, some of them the saddle is spil into 2 halfs, take them out and sand the bottom until your action is low as you want it. thanks for checking out my videos!
@@RandySchartiger thanks so much!! As a very novice luthier I tango'd with a saddle this past weekend for the first time.. slooow methodical process, sheesh. More vids on reso's please and big thanks bro!! I have 1 brass body tri and 2 regular wood hubcaps
use the screw to help lift the cone
If that’s shitty playing I may as well give up now , you sound great
where is the spring that fits over the screw for the spider to the cone ?
Someone lost it before I got into the guitar, I've talked to a few people who leave them out they said it vibrated and made unwanted noise.
Randy Schartiger thank you i just pulled mine apart and cleaned it and - no spring - thanks for your help - great video.
All top USA made resonator guitar makers do not put a spring in. It is not needed.
When do you recommend to open it? every year? every two years?
Very useful video!
Thanks for checking it out! Yeah if it's played a lot or spends much time outside of the case I would recommend once per year. It's amazing how much just dust can mute it.
+Randy Schartiger thank you very much Randy, I hope that my guitar last for many years!
Keep playing!
Put a Beard legend Cone in it. You will be surprised of the sound improvement.
If U don't have any Polish-For the Metal Parts, I just take them to the Kitchen Sink and get a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser [cut in 1/2] and Moistened and Squeezed Out Well, and wipe all that Down and Dry with a Terrycloth Cup Towel.
That Cleans it Up Shiny-New, too.
With the Exception of Surface Wear-Like U Mentioned.
In Between Disassembly, I take the Guitar Outside-Turn it Upside Down, and Shoot Canned-Air all around in there...Just watch, that U don't get any of the Dust/Crap that Blows Out in Your Eyes-There can be a lot Fly Outta' There!!!
I'm surprised how fast you're healing up.
+Tim Fergel I guess it's coming along pretty good, seems slow tho to me lol I thought I would be able to play better than I did in this video, hopefully another week I'll be able to play. Thanks for watching and commenting bro!
You got the DTs?
no I wish it was that simple, 5 years ago was diagnosed with focal dystonia in both hands, it's why I can barely play guitar most days and shake like a little bitch most days from it, no known cure. :(
Sorry dude; now I feel bad, If you were close by I would give you my spare tripod...
excellenteeee ,hey bud come check out crazy tuesday at the the homeschool family northern ireland
What made you stop playing banjo? Too hard of a fight? I can see some ppl would be more inclined to favor one instrument over another.
banjo was my main instrument from age 4 up until around 30 years old, I stopped playing it because of focal dystonia in both of my hands, no one knew what it was back then, I just new something was going very wrong with my hands, I can barely play guitar because of it and the shaking sometimes is uncontrollable. heres a link to the only banjo video I have up, it was around 1986, thats about when focal dystonia was starting. ruclips.net/video/pPBAIs2Tm9I/видео.html
Who in tarnation ' gave this the thumbs down? Did they hit the wrong button, or was the cat walking across the keyboard?
+Banacek60 Chord I often get a few idiot trolls with no voice or channel content that does this, usually if you know who it is and look on their channel you'll find nothing. Absolutely nothing!
They were probably drunk and just missed ☺
I still call these things just Dobro.
You will get a better sound if the saddle was made of bone and fit tighter...those just fell right in.
Well done! Now go take a couple of aspirin and don't strain the injured paw!
I sent you an email note and fwd this to my friend, Paul Rollin, who has recently acquired a Gretsch, resonator.
Thanks, as always.
+Banacek60 Chord Thank you my dear friend! I appreciate you watching and commenting! I'll check emails shortly and watch for that. I plan to make another music video with this guitar when my hand is better. Gonna go find those aspirins right now! :)
Only a Dobro is good enough, Randy, get well soon with your left hand, we need your expertise;)
+Wank Hilliams They definitely are my favorites, thanks for the good wishes Wank! Definitely gotta make more videos! :)
HOLD ON,
No politics here, jus' music
Ok,
It's alright
You implied that there is no difference between spun and pressed cones. All of the expert opinion in the resonator guitar community would disagree strongly with this.
the material the cone is made of is way more important then whether it was pressed or spun, there have been a lot of tests on making the cones out of different material and gauging different thickness'.
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