Picked up the Forza just over a week ago now. Has lived unto my expectations in every way. Having covered just over 600 miles in my first week of ownership I can confirm that it does everything that I need it to do. It's comfortable on a run, has great carrying capacity for touring with the optional top box and underseat storage, getting around 87mpg and it will easily cruise at 70 mph plus. Biggest problem is keeping off of the thing cos I just want to keep riding it! Going in for its first service next week so trying not to put anymore mileage on it for the next few days!
@@gazzertrn Mine will easily cruise at the legal speed limit all day and speed doesn't seem to drop going up motorway gradients at all. In fact if you're minded to there is still plenty left after 70 mph. I find it really comfortable too I've had the bike for around 2 months and the mileage is up to 5500 which has included two trips from Cornwall to Snowdonia, and on to the Lake District and Yorkshire Dales, with no problems whatsoever. More fun on A roads though as it handles well and is fun in the twisties
@@gazzertrn i had an xmax 250 which was zippy. When i started commuting using the motorway i changed the variater weights £15 which reduced the acceleration slightly and permitted totally relaxed 70mph cruising, its like changing sprocket on motorcycle. I rode my 250 to spain and portugal several times. Downside 65-70mpg which think is poor
Thank you and it’s nice to finally see a English speaking review of the Forza 350 I have owned a Forza 350 for three months now in Sydney Aus… This is my 17 bike but first scooter my last bike being a Yamaha MT09SP This has been the most enjoyable experience riding this scooter the weight is so low down and handling surprisingly good The convenience of the under seat storage which I can fit two shark evo one 2 helmets medium size and gloves The electric windscreen is a dream being able to adjust it on the fly Seat is high and I’m 6 foot but I find it really comfortable especially compared to the seats on sports bikes I love that there are 3 foot positions and I’ve never been so comfortable Big power reduction compared to what I’m used to but the majority of my riding is in urban areas these days Love the fit and finish and the famous Honda reliability Would recommend this scooter in a heartbeat
Nice review Mark and your test route is local to me. I have owned my Forza 300 for 3 years and all the updates Honda have made are what I would have asked them to. They are superb machines for everything from nipping into the city to steady motorway cruising with day long comfort. You can easily tour with much bigger bikes so long as you can accept 70-80mph on motorways. Quick electric screen is simply brilliant, economy excellent & reliability has been 100%. The engine feels unburstable.I cannot think of a more versatile powered 2 wheeler. And Crescent Honda are great people to buy from. I like the look of the X-Max 300 but once you’ve had an electric adjustable screen, there’s no going back!
Good review. Thanks. I've just come back from test riding the Forza 350. I rode there on my SH300i so had a back to back comparison of both. The SH is the better tight traffic bike... steers quicker and tighter and goes through smaller gaps, but in every other way I felt the Forza is a step up. The engine feels instantly more powerful, and smoother, and the adjustable screen, under seat storage, spacious footboard area, higher speed cruising ability, general modernity and aesthetics all work better for me. Very relaxing to ride. I'm getting one!
Hey Mark, I bought the Forza and got a really good trade in on the Guzzi. I have to say I´m very impressed. Being used to lean motorbikes, it looks at first sight like a small boat with a large sofa on top, but I´m getting used to that. Riding away from the dealer´s it was hard to believe how simple it was, I had some busy traffic to deal with before reaching the open road, but things fell into place very quickly. Then I was heading away from the coast, into the foothills of the Sierra Nevada, at a steady 80kph, and I realised how comfortable I was. The screen is excellent, affording a similar level of comfort to my old BMW R100 RS, though I´m puzzled that the aperture in the nose directs air up behind the screen, rather diminishing it´s efficiency. No bother in sunny Spain, but less salubrious back in Yorkshire riding up Slipten Fell. It also reminds me of the RS in the way it feels planted in corners, which is a vital requirement for me as the mountain roads are replete with hairpin bends, -- it corners better than the Guzzi, so that´s all good. The power is adequate, and immediate, and since the fuel injection is lovely and smooth, riding on the throttle is a real joy. Riding through the small town where I live, which clings to the mountainside in a series of levels, the low speed stability and manoeuvrability are excellent. Finding a level place to park is no simple matter, the centre stand, though very good, is awkward on slopes so I keep a couple of small rubber wedges, used for spacing bathroom tiles, tucked into the plastic, which are perfect for jamming the brake levers open, and I rely on the side stand. There´s a kilometre of corrugated concrete road between me and civilisation, which persuaded me to soften the rear shocks right off, which hasn´t affected the handling on the tarmac, (though I´m not pushing things), but improved the rough stuff somewhat. The front forks are perfect on the highway, but harsh on bumps. Perhaps the smaller wheels than I´m used to have something to do with it, and changing the fork oil would appear to be a major undertaking. I´ve added foam grips, which reduce the vibes to my fingers when on the concrete, and are more suitable for my big blacksmith´s mitts. I still have some readjusting to do, after a lifetime of motorcycles, but I think the Forza is an excellent vehicle, which will suit a wide variety of people -- it certainly suits me.
I recently heard about a Harley-Davidson devotee who bought a Burgman 650 just for a laugh. It wasn't meant to be serious at all, it was only intended to be a joke when he showed up to his biker crew on a big silly scooter... he liked it so much that he rides the Burgman most of the time now.
Great review - should be picking mine up next week after two month wait - first maxi scoot after riding bikes for years, including Guzzi California, Triumph Bonneville, Royal Enfield Himalayan and most recently Honda NC750x dct and CB500, Dodgy hips and knees starting to take their toll so hoping this will keep me on two wheels that bit longer
i have the nc700x which i love.... but im hankering for another mid size scoot.. they really are great fun..relaxing..weather protection etc... u gotta be ready for one though... they are not sportbikes...just great commuters and lane explorers... the fast superbike days are over with the amount of text drivers/cameras on the roads nowdays... great bikes for the older rider.. i dont go long distance anymore....and these are superb for a passenger the rear seats are wide and comfy... we used to go down the coast...store all our gear on the bike, and friends thought we had got the train down because we had no heavy bike gear on.... jolly good fun ..also great on the winter commute because you are shielded from the cold air....
Thanks for the UK review. I have one on order - been waiting a couple of months. ETA is the end of the month / August 🤞🏻🤞🏻. Always ridden bikes, but when my last bike went in for its service, my local Honda dealer leant me the previous model and I came back with a large grin on my face lol. So when the 350 was launched, I decided to take the plunge on my first ever scooter after 34 years of riding. Great review, so looking forward to getting mine. Cheers. 👍🏼
Been riding motorcycles as main form of transport for over 25 years reluctantly bought one of these primarily for economic reasons ,can not believe how much fun it is high speed handling is very very good ,great fun at high lean angle AND good long distance tourer this is easily the best new bike I have ever bought for exceeding expectation
This is a great scooter especially with the electric screen, when it's too hot to ride my Street Twin motorbike I go for day trips on my Forza 350, there is no engine heat & I can carry a picnic for a lunch stop. One thing, the turning circle is brilliant. The only negative for me is the front suspension could be improved. I'm surprised on a 5,000-pound scooter I get a rev counter. On the Triumph, it's one clock with a rev counter somewhere in the menu, come on Triumph it's a motorbike.
Agreed, the front suspension crashes over anything other than smooth road which is a real shame, after a year the front plastics start creaking aswell which eventually drives you insane, other than that a superb scooter far better than a Vespa Gts 300
Perfect English ! For me as a foreigner, even after living in the UK for 16+ years, sometimes too difficult to understand some people here in England! In this video and all others from this chanel I understand every single word! Thank you!
Thanks for a great review. I've been waiting for a real life UK review since they were launched. I'm saving now and trading in my 2015 Forza 300. You made my mind up. Cheers, and good health.
Thanks Gary .... great choice...I have alot of experience with your Forza 300 2015 ..which is good ...but I think you'll find this another level :) Cheers mark
Very nice review of this Forza nice acceleration between 80km/h to 130km/h at highway and complete informative explanation. Thank you so much, Mr Mark.
A very comprehensive and engaging review which provides the kind of information a potential buyer would want without irritating and distracting music. Well done and thank you. Greetings from Ireland. ☘
As an ex-pat living in Thailand, I've seen a lot of these around. I can't justify moving up from my PCX Hybrid. The smaller PCX is ideal for my beach town. The Forza would just be overkill and I'm never on a highway. This would be the next step up if I do ever need it. I loved the review
I had a PCX 3years ago and been riding a Forza 300 for the last year. Both scoots have been for riding with Deliveroo, so definitely a lot more time spent riding each of them than the average commuter. I'm 5'11" and the larger frame of the Forza is more comfortable for me. After extending time on the PCX, I felt more hunched and like I was making myself smaller just to ride it. For low speed town stuff the pcx is ok but the forza does that every bit as well, with less tress on the larger capacity engine. The larger engine of course means there is extra oomph for the occasions I feel like it. Also there's longer between service intervals... pcx 6k miles, forza 8k miles - for anyone doing less mileage this it means nothing, it should still get an annual service. I may upgrade to the 350 next year, we'll see.
I am living in Thailand too and had the same thoughts than you. Today went for the Forza 350 anyway and couldnt get off it. It is a little less nimble squeezing through the cars but makes up for it in speed, you can go faster feeling safe. The touring capabilities add a lot of value. And its really fun to ride.
Great review Mark, thank you. Rode the 300 and loved it. Looked at the prices of second-hand 350s and they were only about £300 less than a new one, so my order is in! Had a choice of red or red, so went with red!
Very good, down-to-earth review, thank you. I took one for a Test Ride (70 minutes' worth) earlier in the month, courtesy of Newcastle Motorcycles; my Silverwing had become too much for me to handle with regard to pushing it around and I became aware of the Forza 350. You've summed up my feelings about the bike exactly. My only very slight con is that the screen is just a centimetre short for me; I'm 6' tall and long in the body. I've already asked for a Givi screen to be fitted; that will sort that one out! The only serious downside is that I have to wait until October on the list at NM (who are being very nice to me). It'll be worth the wait, though.
My second bike is a scooter, an400 k9 burgman, it'll do 95mph on the speedo and return a staggering 78mpg even when ridden above national speed limits... and 87mpg if you don't break speed limit.
Good review! I bought a 2nd hand 2020 Forza 350 last year , it had 4800kms on it, the intention was checking off a bucket list adventure to ride the Mae Hong Son loop in Chiang Mai , Thailand. Traveling light it swallowed luggage for 2 for the 3 day / 2 night roadtrip under the seat The tight uphill/downhill hairpins ,1864 of them , keep coming at you endlessly, i couldn't fault the 350s engine/transmission/ brakes. Low down torque delivery , great gobs of it ,twist the throttle and dont worry about what gear your in , engine braking is ok until you go slow enough for it to disengage, a blip of the throttle will engage it again. The brakes are excellent, 30 minute hairpin descents ,never a hint of brake fade. The problem is staying off the damn thing as its so much fun. Its now ran 14,000kms.The prices are still strong so im looking to sell it to buy a low kilo 2022 model. Very popular bike here now.
brilliant review - absolutely best bar-none, especially little details like photo shots of how high it is with leg reach, truly, others should learn from this..
An amazing review as usual. Forza 300/350 is surely a superb bike for any use, will easily go long distance touring, easy to pick up if dropped, comfortable, nice clean sealed belt, good headlights, economical to run and will last a long time due to Honda ; probably the best return on your £6000 ever. 😀
Hi Mark, I have discovered that when the steering lock is engaged, the glove box is also locked. Not a lot of people know that ! Most useful. I must say, I think your reviews are very good, I am enjoying getting used to the switch from adventure type bikes to scooters (due to getting too old and weak to shift big heavy bikes around), and have bought a Forza 350 while Honda struggle to get enough ADV 350’s in. Then I might trade the Forza in as I find the suspension a bit too choppy 😕. Great bike though 👍.
Hi Mark, did my research on a maxi scooter and your review really helped with my choice. So after a 3 month wait finally got my Forza 350 this week. Really good machine, very pleased indeed. Great review, thanks 👍
You can't go wrong with a Honda, what a great scooter. Thanks for the review. I recently picked up a 3 year old Kawasaki J300 scooter and I'm very pleased with it. As you said the mid range maxi scooter gives an excellent combination of frugality and performance. Where a 125 scooter might run out of go and end up being a little frustrating performance wise the mid range scooters can do it all including motorway travelling comfortably.
Since I am considering upgrading my faithful old Honda SH300i, this was a very useful review, I am seriously considering one of these. I think the screen makes it probably the best in this category. Must arrange a test ride of this and the SH350 and go from there. Thanks.
Ive had the sh300 and the Forza 300, sh is far more comfortable to ride, better wheel size and doesn't go bang over every drain cover on the road, the Forza looks so much better and has massive storage and a good amount of equipment, the downside is the poor front suspension and creaky plastics, plus i found the Sh300 much faster off the lights and better on fuel economy
Even If I am not into Hondas, I should say very good quality review, all needed section included. Started my own channel. Whish to reach this level somehow.
I own the Honda Forza 300cc and its a great touring machine. Last week I completed the Scottish NC 500 on it and it went up the famous 'pass of the cattle' road no problem. Its comfortable and has a good range. The negatives are; it will cruise no problem at 65/70 but max it out at 80mph and it becomes a very scary machine. It jumps over motorway cats eyes and wind buffering when overtaking HGV is anxiously noticeable. I have read the handling on the 350 has been improved over the 300.
@@markpulling12 thanks for replying. It's the newer 2019 model I'm riding, it's a scary machine at high speed. The mirrors are dodgy as well. Kind regards John.
i had a forza 300 until recently in spain and did a lot of two up riding on it, a great engine but the bike was severely restricted by the lack of pillion comfort and the appallingly bad suspension
Once I have done my motorcycle test, I am very interested in purchasing one of these scooters. I agree with one point that you brought up in the video: The price of these mid range scooters are really good, not too expensive, reasonably priced. But if you go into the higher cc scooters the price becomes more expensive. The question I have is this: Why? I think the price of £5500.00 for a brand new Honda Forza 350 is absolutely fantastic, very reasonable.
Hi Michael...it's because of the technology...the 750 Forza for example has better brakes suspension the engine is more complicated with dct etc cheers mark
Very fine review up there Sir. Really enjoyed my commuting on the 300 version. They've answered the the screen issue I had there which is a big tick. Always wondered though why have a tacho on a Scooter?? I'd rather that space used for a larger speedo and info display like the PCX. Regards from Soggy Perth
Very nice review, yes maybe planning to get a mid size (300 to 400 cc) Maxi Scooter for the reasons you mentioned. Weight, power, price, transport capacity, still easy on fuel (must be below 4 Liters/100 kms - speachless prices in June 2022 .... ) Forza 350 will be in the inner circle definitely. B.R fr. Germany
Thank you for a great review as I had a suzuki burgman 200 6 months ago and that was a comfortable bike also I put on a j costa variator on it but it was ok but not worth the cost as the revs got higher but when you eased off the revs dropped down so the top speed was 77 mph but I must say the little 200 burgman was good
I've just informed Mark on another of his videos, that in my opinion, this is not for the heavier biker (I am 96kg in all my winter gear) due to the inadequate suspension and the poor uk roads. A number of owners on youtube have upgraded both front and rear suspension.
Good review as always, Mark. Had my 300 Forza for 3 years as a winter workhorse and everything inbetween. Makes a great tourer too; light, economical, practical. Going to test the 350 next week to see if there's any difference in performance.
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark. Had my Forza 350 for a year now. Immediately felt the extra power. I love it! The rear suspension is a bit hard on poor surfaces. And, if I'm picking fault, the petrol flap doesn't always open (common fault apparently) and buying tyres every 3500-4000 miles is a bit of a pain too. It's just brilliant, so smooth, 80mpg, and the only maintainance is checking the tyre pressures. I've owned over 30 bikes over a lifetime and this is one of the best.
Hi Mark, Great review. Just for me, in future include lock/turning circle, headlights (I know you do occasionally) service interval/estimated cos and estimated value in future so total cost of ownership can be judged. Cheers Rog
I’ve watched you on the ADV 350 too, if you hade a choice which one would you have and why? Love your reviews as you represent my size exactly:-) makes it easy for me to make a bit of a decision
Hi tough choice there but id go for the Forza because I wouldn't go off road ...and I just love the electric screen on the Forza ...it's my favorite mid sized scooter Best wishes mark
Great video...downsides rear suspension awful and seat position/ride position very cramped definitely not feet forward like burgman.seat hump needs moving back about 2 to 3 inches ...engine however is sublime!
Once again Mark nice review. I think it would be a toss up between this one and the Xmax. Here in the states I’m still scratching my head why Honda doesn’t sell the Forza here. For me when the time comes it will be the Xmax. Yamaha has no competition. 😀
Great review mate. I’m loving my X Max 300 apart from the two hours of labourer cost for the tail tidy. The 1.99% finance sold me the Yamaha here in 🇦🇺
Buyd one my self recenttly.... EXELLENT BIKE... i could by a 750cc or bigger motorcycle but i dont need bigger,,,, this is bike is very recomendable... so thumbs up ;)
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark ! How does it feel compared to the XMax ? Just curious as I have an XMax. Am impressed however with the Honda you are riding. Pity Yamaha and Honda do not do a 400 cc. 400cc would seem like the sweet spot for me as far as combined touring and city traffic. NZ. Regards.
Great review Mark, sooooooooo difficult between Yam and Hon, is it just beans in a different tin decision? My XMAX 400 certainly oozes class but then again that's subjective!!!!!
MR Mark your recent selection of bikes to review is spot on. Like you read my mind. Exactly the bikes I would wish you to review. Could it be telepathically? ;-) The answer is "yes" if the next bike to review is new Ducati Monster or Piaggio Beverly 400. Regardles of this it's obviously a thumb up in here.
Thinking about one of these. Up to now I have tended towards a Suzuki Burgman 400 but this puts out the same power but is 36 kg lighter. Plus there is more underseat storage and you can adjust the screen on the move. The only things I am not happy about is the non-adjustable reat shocks (I like a soft ride) and the keyless ignition - I would rather have a traditional key start.
@@markpulling12 yes Impulse buying at its best , it comes with the top box and phone kit so looking forward to next year , hope to tour northern Scotland , COVID permitting
I had in my garage an xmax300 2019 model but i sold it after 2 years and 35.000km for the updated model forza 350. I bought the forza 350 on September 2021 without test driving it. Let me share with you my impressions after 2 weeks of driving it and how it is compared to the xmax300. • The seat material is not as good as the xmax300 and the whole construction closing and opening feels cheap. • It has only one storage space on the left side and it is very deep and not easy to reach your stuff. Again the construction feels very cheap compare to the xmax300 which has 2 storage spaces. • The biggest problem was some kind of vibrations that i was feeling at the seat, at the mirrors and at the steering when the scooter wasnt moving. I didnt faced anything like this with the xmax300 or any other scooter i have had. • Fuel consumption about the same as the xmax for sure not better. • Brakes better than the xmax300 • Rear Suspension is hard and not so soft as the xmax300. • Steering is about the same as the xmax 300 small differences. • The forza 350 engine feels quiter and stronger than the xmax300. • The instruments and the mirrors are more premium than the xmax300. Overall it didnt worth the upgrade and the whole experience of the forza350 left me unsatisfied. The biggest problem for me is the vibrations of the scooter because it makes it feel cheap. The xmax300 for me is the better option.
Hi Fotis, thanks for the comment on your forza. I,m a happy Xmax300 owner and thought I would keep the bike for a few years, but Honda's new adv350 has me tempted. Cannot wait for a test ride in the new year, interesting to find out what the adv rides like, taking your comments into consideration.
@@fotisproutzopoulos20 in 3 hours l will be at honda l newer see adv from near l hope don't look weird from near ,can hold 120,130 km on main road? End top speed?
Excellent video Mark thanks, one main concern I have is security can you fits disc lock or chain when parking up ? Seriously looking at one of these. 👍🏴
Hi Mark, great video and great timing as I'm on the verge of buying something in this class myself - do you have a preference between this and the Xmax 300? Seems like the Xmax is a bit nippier at the top end compared to the Forza? Cheers
Hi ade ...it is a little bit faster at the top but splitting hairs really maybe a few mph ...the Forza is stronger in the midrange ....both are brilliant but the screen on the Forza would win it for me :)
@@markpulling12 Aye that adjustable screen is nice, touch cheaper than the Xmax as well - Honda definitely upping the ante this year hoping to pinch a few sales off Yamaha! Cheers
You can change the variator weights for little money to make it accelerate faster or cruise at lower revs. I did it on my xmax250 but slightly heavier weights in made the acceleration (slightly slower) but cruised very quietly at 70mph because i rode it to spain and back. The problem with twist and go for me is i cant help twisting it to max as the zooooom effect is intoxicating, it leaves cars behind easily and will tussle with some motorbikes up to 40-50 asno gear change or clutch release. Try one very underated transport and very exciting. Trouble is twisting all time = mpg 60😂
Before a long European road trip I tested this and several other maxi scooters. I ended up buying a Suzuki Burgman 200 (now discontinued) and it beat the Forza 300/350 on many levels, though it was - nearly new - almost half the price. The seat is a little too low so you need to be less than 5' 9" to enjoy it, but brakes were as good, consumption was 95+ mpg and cruise and top speed was similar. But crucially the suspension was miles more comfortable plus it is much lighter and can carry almost the same amount of luggage. No electric screen but I added a deflector and felt zero wind on my helmet for the whole trip in all weathers. The Forza is overall a better scooter but not at the price level and the suspension is not good - and ALL maxi scoots are miles too heavy.
Hi Mark. Good review again buddy. I think this is a nice scooter, but I do prefer the ADV 350 personally. I would have to look at the ADV 350 over this. That being said, this would still be a good shout in the Maxi Scooter world. The electric fly screen is good on this bike also.
Hi Mark, being a Honda guy and where I love my 1200x, I was in the market for a second ride and it being a maxi scoot. I really was thinking Forza 350 but instead decided on the 400 Burgman for which I decided on in the end. Really quite pleased with the Burgman but after 1500 miles I was finding the seat a little to low so added a Air rider seat cushion to higher it slightly, but it's a good ride and enjoying the ease these scooters offer 👍🏻
@@markpulling12 i considered the 400 burger prior to buying the forza but decided i would not be able to live with the look of the thing, ugly doesn't even begin to describe the suzuki burgers in my opinion
Hi Mark, I appreciate how articulate you are and your descriptions on the ride seem to anticipate what the viewer might like to know. I am 5' 6.5" tall....would i be comfortable on this sort of machine...as I am also considering either a Yamaha or Burgman 400? Cheers from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.
Hi Bruce many thanks...just watch the seat height on these as it's very wide ...I'm 30 inch inside leg and I'm not flat footed...but apart from that they are very comfortable...I think the burgman is lower ....ps I watch a lot of Hudson and rex filmed in Newfoundland!!! Best wishes mark
Thankyou . I realised by the time I’d finished writing the comment it had moved to the 750 review and done forza it is . I know the bike just get used to the extra power . Thanks mate
Having mine delivered on Friday, it's a 2015 Forza 300 model, being a 75 y/o, i am finding it hard to get my leg over a my Kawazaki, which I have now sold. So, this should prolong my 2-wheel activities a bit longer.
Lovely bike and great review but really suggest anyone that is bigger get a test ride. I'm a 6ft1 / 32" inside leg former SH300i (and TMax amongst other bikes) owner and found myself cramped up. I've since bought a Forza 750 but still find the seat height lower than I'd like. Why can't manufacturers make adjustable seats and bars?
Love your detailed review of bikes.. Making a choice isn't easy especially bikes that never even seen 1 in real life for eg. ADV 350. Since we have the same height and weight, that made me went to pay for the deposit of the bike. Still waiting for official confirmation to be on the road here in Singapore. Thank you 🙏🏻😊😊😊 Chosen ADV 350 over Forza is because of looks and the more width seem much wider than the ADV 350. The only super bad part about ADV 350 in Singapore, is the price which is about 18.5k++USD excluding road tax and insurance(another few hundreds) In Singapore, for every vehicle bought, we need to pay COE(Certificate of Entitlement) that cost as of now price is about 7.9k(motor bike price only) for us to own 10 years only. 😂 One of the most expensive mid size(below 400cc) scooters here in Singapore. But since I am abusing it for work purposes(average riding 10 hours a day, average 125miles/day) , should be ok😂😂😂
Hello Mark, Excellent review as always! Where would your money go, the Forza 350 or the Xmax 300? Also, which one would fit best for 1.90 meters tall people? Thank you very much.
@@AK-xu1fx I'm trying to think of a large maxi scooter but I think they are all a similar kind of physical size ....maybe the suzuki burgman 400 may have more leg room.... hopefully someone else will reply here regards mark
Hey nice channel, I have been collecting bikes and scooters for a while now its eems there are scooters available in Europe that you cant get here in the US, right now I have a burgman 400, Honda helix and a Yamaha Morphous,,,,for my comfort I find myself spoiled with the comfort of the morph and helix and I really love the low center of gravity, but I am a sucker for speed so I like higher CC bikes, do you have any thoughts on the helix and morphous? TY again!
Currently have an SH300i. Seriously considering this or an X-ADV. Test rode this Forza 350i and the 750 today, think I prefer the 350 for my type of riding. Final decision to be made after a loan of the X-ADV when my SH gets serviced....
I have a 400 Burgmann as my second bike and my 30 mile commute (25 miles A road or Motorway, 5 miles urban jams) takes no longer on it than it does on my Triumph Tiger 800. I would say the scooter with its CVT is better than the bike if you do much rush hour town travel. Once you get used to the different handling you can corner with enthusiasm! One possible downside with some of these scooters is the short service interval of some models, which can increase running costs and inconvenience if you have to get it serviced twice (or more) each year.
Am considering one of these for our motorhome. Any idea how it would cope with a pillion ? We need something comfy and reliable over performance. Thank you for another great review.
Hello, It's a great review thank you👍. I love the Honda Forza 350😊 and I like the kymco xciting s 400i. Can't decide which one to go for.😆 Are you planning in the near future to do a review on the kymco please, thanks
I have a PCX 150 and an AK 550 both 2018. The Honda is far and away better quality than the Kymco for components with the Kymco prone to erosion in a coastal area.
Well I owned a Sym Citycom 300 which is tantamount to the Kymco brand and despite living up in damp cold Scotland I had no issues with corrosion on the Sym
The screen on the 300 has a few niggling points. I have a larger after market screen on now but some of the points I can make apply to both the standard and aftermarket. I'm 5'11" and when I first got the bike I played around with the screen more than I do now. Just the luxury of having an electronically adjustable screen. For slow riding the screen down is fine until riding over cobbles or any bumpy surface, because the screen rattles when down but not when up. As for the height of the screen... I'm often just slightly hunched to keep my face in the protective bubble the screen provides. If the screen is just slightly too low, the wind in my face is worse than no screen at all because while the screen does give excellent comfort if you're in the bubble.. it also creates turbulent air around the bubble. Turbulent air in your face is worse than mere wind. These things are why I got the larger aftermarket screen.
Hi Daryl ....both are great...the xmax is a tiny bit faster but I'd go for the honda ...I really like it's adjustable screen and slightly prefer it's ride quality.....I'd go for the honda . . cheers mark
hi Mark great review. i have a honda 600 silverwing which is a great scooter but the fuel range is not great i get about 135 to the tank before the led starts flashing. this 350 is so good on fuel.
I have a honda Silverwing 400 / SW-T 400 (from 2011) and its fuel consumption is just slightly worse than my other scooter, a Yamaha Majesty 250 (from 1998): 4,2 liter per 100 km for the Honda compared to 4,0 liter per 100 km for the Yamaha. Not quite sure what that is in mpg (always struggling with American gallons vs imperial gallons) But I'm sure its well more than the Forza 350. Still, it gives me a range of around 300 km / 190 miles. In return, the Silverwing gives me the smoothness of two cilinders, 39 HP and a frame-mounted engine. And it's very stable, imo partly because of the weight which is a whopping 247 kilograms..... But then: it's never meant to be a sprinter. What I would like to have from the Forza is the adjustable screen! Mine was just a bit too low for me, which I countered with a little extension which can be tuned angle-wise.
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Picked up the Forza just over a week ago now. Has lived unto my expectations in every way. Having covered just over 600 miles in my first week of ownership I can confirm that it does everything that I need it to do. It's comfortable on a run, has great carrying capacity for touring with the optional top box and underseat storage, getting around 87mpg and it will easily cruise at 70 mph plus. Biggest problem is keeping off of the thing cos I just want to keep riding it! Going in for its first service next week so trying not to put anymore mileage on it for the next few days!
Thanks for the update Steve
That's brilliant
Cheers mark
Carry a pillow and you won't need to get off of it.
can you really do long distance on a motorway , with this bike ? Love too know , really curious .
@@gazzertrn Mine will easily cruise at the legal speed limit all day and speed doesn't seem to drop going up motorway gradients at all. In fact if you're minded to there is still plenty left after 70 mph. I find it really comfortable too I've had the bike for around 2 months and the mileage is up to 5500 which has included two trips from Cornwall to Snowdonia, and on to the Lake District and Yorkshire Dales, with no problems whatsoever. More fun on A roads though as it handles well and is fun in the twisties
@@gazzertrn i had an xmax 250 which was zippy. When i started commuting using the motorway i changed the variater weights £15 which reduced the acceleration slightly and permitted totally relaxed 70mph cruising, its like changing sprocket on motorcycle. I rode my 250 to spain and portugal several times. Downside 65-70mpg which think is poor
Thank you and it’s nice to finally see a English speaking review of the Forza 350
I have owned a Forza 350 for three months now in Sydney Aus…
This is my 17 bike but first scooter my last bike being a Yamaha MT09SP
This has been the most enjoyable experience riding this scooter the weight is so low down and handling surprisingly good
The convenience of the under seat storage which I can fit two shark evo one 2 helmets medium size and gloves
The electric windscreen is a dream being able to adjust it on the fly
Seat is high and I’m 6 foot but I find it really comfortable especially compared to the seats on sports bikes
I love that there are 3 foot positions and I’ve never been so comfortable
Big power reduction compared to what I’m used to but the majority of my riding is in urban areas these days
Love the fit and finish and the famous Honda reliability
Would recommend this scooter in a heartbeat
Thanks Barry for that info ... especially as you're 6ft and find it comfortable
Best regards mark
Why did u choose the forza and not the xmax 300?
@@Anton-. the Forza has a brilliant electric screen and a bit more midrange power cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks mate, keep up the good work!
@@Anton-. when will launch in India...I wanted purchase...
Nice review Mark and your test route is local to me. I have owned my Forza 300 for 3 years and all the updates Honda have made are what I would have asked them to. They are superb machines for everything from nipping into the city to steady motorway cruising with day long comfort. You can easily tour with much bigger bikes so long as you can accept 70-80mph on motorways. Quick electric screen is simply brilliant, economy excellent & reliability has been 100%. The engine feels unburstable.I cannot think of a more versatile powered 2 wheeler. And Crescent Honda are great people to buy from. I like the look of the X-Max 300 but once you’ve had an electric adjustable screen, there’s no going back!
Thanks Tim ...I think the forza 350 is the best mid size maxi scooter you can get :)
Regards mark
Good review. Thanks. I've just come back from test riding the Forza 350. I rode there on my SH300i so had a back to back comparison of both. The SH is the better tight traffic bike... steers quicker and tighter and goes through smaller gaps, but in every other way I felt the Forza is a step up. The engine feels instantly more powerful, and smoother, and the adjustable screen, under seat storage, spacious footboard area, higher speed cruising ability, general modernity and aesthetics all work better for me. Very relaxing to ride. I'm getting one!
Thanks Steve for that feedback ...I thought it's high-speed cruising ability was first class
Great choice :)
That's exactly the swap Ill be doing at some point
@@matthewsmith2432 great choice Matthew :)
What about the xmax 300?
@@petmeister -
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I've got 2500 miles on my 350 and will second your review, excellent machine.
Thanks Marvin great choice :)
Hi Mark, your reviews are excellent. No ego, sensible riding & pertinent info. There is a new bike to try: Honda ADV 350. 👍
Thanks for the kind words William....yes looking forward to the adv 350 when it's here in the uk :)
Cheers mark
Hey Mark, I bought the Forza and got a really good trade in on the Guzzi. I have to say I´m very impressed.
Being used to lean motorbikes, it looks at first sight like a small boat with a large sofa on top, but I´m getting used to that.
Riding away from the dealer´s it was hard to believe how simple it was, I had some busy traffic to deal with before reaching the open road, but things fell into place very quickly. Then I was heading away from the coast, into the foothills of the Sierra Nevada, at a steady 80kph, and I realised how comfortable I was. The screen is excellent, affording a similar level of comfort to my old BMW R100 RS, though I´m puzzled that the aperture in the nose directs air up behind the screen, rather diminishing it´s efficiency. No bother in sunny Spain, but less salubrious back in Yorkshire riding up Slipten Fell.
It also reminds me of the RS in the way it feels planted in corners, which is a vital requirement for me as the mountain roads are replete with hairpin bends, -- it corners better than the Guzzi, so that´s all good.
The power is adequate, and immediate, and since the fuel injection is lovely and smooth, riding on the throttle is a real joy.
Riding through the small town where I live, which clings to the mountainside in a series of levels, the low speed stability and manoeuvrability are excellent. Finding a level place to park is no simple matter, the centre stand, though very good, is awkward on slopes so I keep a couple of small rubber wedges, used for spacing bathroom tiles, tucked into the plastic, which are perfect for jamming the brake levers open, and I rely on the side stand.
There´s a kilometre of corrugated concrete road between me and civilisation, which persuaded me to soften the rear shocks right off, which hasn´t affected the handling on the tarmac, (though I´m not pushing things), but improved the rough stuff somewhat. The front forks are perfect on the highway, but harsh on bumps. Perhaps the smaller wheels than I´m used to have something to do with it, and changing the fork oil would appear to be a major undertaking. I´ve added foam grips, which reduce the vibes to my fingers when on the concrete, and are more suitable for my big blacksmith´s mitts.
I still have some readjusting to do, after a lifetime of motorcycles, but I think the Forza is an excellent vehicle, which will suit a wide variety of people -- it certainly suits me.
Sounds fantastic Kerry thanks for the great comment cheers mark
I recently heard about a Harley-Davidson devotee who bought a Burgman 650 just for a laugh. It wasn't meant to be serious at all, it was only intended to be a joke when he showed up to his biker crew on a big silly scooter... he liked it so much that he rides the Burgman most of the time now.
@@wolfpackpete6408 thanks Pete ... interesting story :)
Great review - should be picking mine up next week after two month wait - first maxi scoot after riding bikes for years, including Guzzi California, Triumph Bonneville, Royal Enfield Himalayan and most recently Honda NC750x dct and CB500, Dodgy hips and knees starting to take their toll so hoping this will keep me on two wheels that bit longer
Hi Steve great choice regards mark
i have the nc700x which i love.... but im hankering for another mid size scoot.. they really are great fun..relaxing..weather protection etc... u gotta be ready for one though... they are not sportbikes...just great commuters and lane explorers... the fast superbike days are over with the amount of text drivers/cameras on the roads nowdays... great bikes for the older rider.. i dont go long distance anymore....and these are superb for a passenger the rear seats are wide and comfy... we used to go down the coast...store all our gear on the bike, and friends thought we had got the train down because we had no heavy bike gear on.... jolly good fun ..also great on the winter commute because you are shielded from the cold air....
Thanks yes well said !
Cheers mark
Love your reviews Mark, always on topic and no personal nonsense included. Oh and probably the best mid range scooter around.
Thanks David ....yes I definitely agree ...if I was to buy a scooter it would be this one
Cheers mark
Thanks for the UK review. I have one on order - been waiting a couple of months. ETA is the end of the month / August 🤞🏻🤞🏻. Always ridden bikes, but when my last bike went in for its service, my local Honda dealer leant me the previous model and I came back with a large grin on my face lol. So when the 350 was launched, I decided to take the plunge on my first ever scooter after 34 years of riding. Great review, so looking forward to getting mine. Cheers. 👍🏼
Thanks David ...yes I know what you mean about these scooters being fun....this new 350 is brilliant
Enjoy yours ! Best regards mark
Been riding motorcycles as main form of transport for over 25 years reluctantly bought one of these primarily for economic reasons ,can not believe how much fun it is high speed handling is very very good ,great fun at high lean angle AND good long distance tourer this is easily the best new bike I have ever bought for exceeding expectation
Thanks daimen for the great feedback 😊
This is a great scooter especially with the electric screen, when it's too hot to ride my Street Twin motorbike I go for day trips on my Forza 350, there is no engine heat & I can carry a picnic for a lunch stop. One thing, the turning circle is brilliant. The only negative for me is the front suspension could be improved. I'm surprised on a 5,000-pound scooter I get a rev counter. On the Triumph, it's one clock with a rev counter somewhere in the menu, come on Triumph it's a motorbike.
Thanks Frank ...glad you're enjoying your Forza !
Agreed, the front suspension crashes over anything other than smooth road which is a real shame, after a year the front plastics start creaking aswell which eventually drives you insane, other than that a superb scooter far better than a Vespa Gts 300
@@leegentrylg thanks for the update lee :)
Perfect English ! For me as a foreigner, even after living in the UK for 16+ years, sometimes too difficult to understand some people here in England! In this video and all others from this chanel I understand every single word! Thank you!
My pleasure eldar !!! :)
Thanks for a great review. I've been waiting for a real life UK review since they were launched. I'm saving now and trading in my 2015 Forza 300. You made my mind up. Cheers, and good health.
Thanks Gary .... great choice...I have alot of experience with your Forza 300 2015 ..which is good ...but I think you'll find this another level :)
Cheers mark
Very nice review of this Forza nice acceleration between 80km/h to 130km/h at highway and complete informative explanation. Thank you so much, Mr Mark.
Thanks teddy :)
Best value maxi scooter !
A very comprehensive and engaging review which provides the kind of information a potential buyer would want without irritating and distracting music. Well done and thank you. Greetings from Ireland. ☘
Thanks very much John :)
As an ex-pat living in Thailand, I've seen a lot of these around. I can't justify moving up from my PCX Hybrid. The smaller PCX is ideal for my beach town. The Forza would just be overkill and I'm never on a highway. This would be the next step up if I do ever need it. I loved the review
Thanks Pete :)
This is my favorite mid size maxi scooter
I had a PCX 3years ago and been riding a Forza 300 for the last year. Both scoots have been for riding with Deliveroo, so definitely a lot more time spent riding each of them than the average commuter. I'm 5'11" and the larger frame of the Forza is more comfortable for me. After extending time on the PCX, I felt more hunched and like I was making myself smaller just to ride it. For low speed town stuff the pcx is ok but the forza does that every bit as well, with less tress on the larger capacity engine. The larger engine of course means there is extra oomph for the occasions I feel like it. Also there's longer between service intervals... pcx 6k miles, forza 8k miles - for anyone doing less mileage this it means nothing, it should still get an annual service. I may upgrade to the 350 next year, we'll see.
I am living in Thailand too and had the same thoughts than you. Today went for the Forza 350 anyway and couldnt get off it. It is a little less nimble squeezing through the cars but makes up for it in speed, you can go faster feeling safe. The touring capabilities add a lot of value. And its really fun to ride.
Having a test ride in Spain next week, definitely encouraged by this video, the best I´ve seen. Thank you.
Thanks Kerry good luck with your test ride ...if you can ...post your thoughts on here
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Will do.
Great review Mark, thank you. Rode the 300 and loved it. Looked at the prices of second-hand 350s and they were only about £300 less than a new one, so my order is in! Had a choice of red or red, so went with red!
Thanks great Choice
My favorite maxi scooter :)
Another excellent in-depth review Mark…appreciate the hard work.
Enjoy the sunny weather. Cheers
Thanks Chris . .this is my favorite mid size maxi scooter
Cheers mark
This is one of the best Honda Forza 350 reviews on YT today in my opinion ! You did a good job 😉
Thanks Dean ...it's one of the best maxi scooters on the market :)
Very good, down-to-earth review, thank you. I took one for a Test Ride (70 minutes' worth) earlier in the month, courtesy of Newcastle Motorcycles; my Silverwing had become too much for me to handle with regard to pushing it around and I became aware of the Forza 350. You've summed up my feelings about the bike exactly. My only very slight con is that the screen is just a centimetre short for me; I'm 6' tall and long in the body. I've already asked for a Givi screen to be fitted; that will sort that one out! The only serious downside is that I have to wait until October on the list at NM (who are being very nice to me). It'll be worth the wait, though.
Thanks Michael great choice
Imo the best mid size maxi scooter
Regards mark
My second bike is a scooter, an400 k9 burgman, it'll do 95mph on the speedo and return a staggering 78mpg even when ridden above national speed limits... and 87mpg if you don't break speed limit.
Thanks ...that's really good economy
Regards mark
You scared me until you reminded me it was a 21 model as I'm lucky to be 5"4. Im also into the Bergman 400.
Great review tfs
Thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
Hi just bought one, I have always buy Honda, this is my 5th Honda and the best by far.
Thanks John ...best mid size maxi scooter imo
Regards mark
Good review! I bought a 2nd hand 2020 Forza 350 last year , it had 4800kms on it, the intention was checking off a bucket list adventure to ride the Mae Hong Son loop in Chiang Mai , Thailand. Traveling light it swallowed luggage for 2 for the 3 day / 2 night roadtrip under the seat
The tight uphill/downhill hairpins ,1864 of them , keep coming at you endlessly, i couldn't fault the 350s engine/transmission/ brakes.
Low down torque delivery , great gobs of it ,twist the throttle and dont worry about what gear your in , engine braking is ok until you go slow enough for it to disengage, a blip of the throttle will engage it again. The brakes are excellent, 30 minute hairpin descents ,never a hint of brake fade. The problem is staying off the damn thing as its so much fun.
Its now ran 14,000kms.The prices are still strong so im looking to sell it to buy a low kilo 2022 model. Very popular bike here now.
Many thanks for the great comment
Best wishes mark
brilliant review - absolutely best bar-none, especially little details like photo shots of how high it is with leg reach, truly, others should learn from this..
Many thanks 👍
An amazing review as usual. Forza 300/350 is surely a superb bike for any use, will easily go long distance touring, easy to pick up if dropped, comfortable, nice clean sealed belt, good headlights, economical to run and will last a long time due to Honda ; probably the best return on your £6000 ever. 😀
Yes I'd say the Forza 350 is the best value performing maxi scooter available
Best wishes mark
I'm looking at this as I want to get my 600cc licence in Gibraltar. You've made up my mind for me with this excellent review. Thank you!
My pleasure ....it'll be perfect for Gibraltar !!
Best regards mark
Will have mine later this year for the better Aussie weather. Enjoyed your review. Very realistic. Merv.
Ok Merv many thanks
Hi Mark, I have discovered that when the steering lock is engaged, the glove box is also locked. Not a lot of people know that ! Most useful.
I must say, I think your reviews are very good, I am enjoying getting used to the switch from adventure type bikes to scooters (due to getting too old and weak to shift big heavy bikes around), and have bought a Forza 350 while Honda struggle to get enough ADV 350’s in. Then I might trade the Forza in as I find the suspension a bit too choppy 😕. Great bike though 👍.
Many thanks for the info Phil 😊
Good vid Mark, would you recommend for 2 people combined weight 20 stone for day trips in the region of 300 miles , keep up the good work
Hi Jan yes this would be ok ...it will cruise at 70 mph all day even 2 up ...
Regards mark
Hi Mark, did my research on a maxi scooter and your review really helped with my choice. So after a 3 month wait finally got my Forza 350 this week. Really good machine, very pleased indeed. Great review, thanks 👍
Thanks Floyd...you made a really good choice there....one of the best:)
Cheers mark
You can't go wrong with a Honda, what a great scooter.
Thanks for the review.
I recently picked up a 3 year old Kawasaki J300 scooter and I'm very pleased with it.
As you said the mid range maxi scooter gives an excellent combination of frugality and performance.
Where a 125 scooter might run out of go and end up being a little frustrating performance wise the mid range scooters can do it all including motorway travelling comfortably.
Thanks Barry yes the 300/350 range of maxis are brilliant
Cheers mark
Pick up my Honda Forza in December 21 cannot wait.
Great choice best maxi scooter:)
Since I am considering upgrading my faithful old Honda SH300i, this was a very useful review, I am seriously considering one of these. I think the screen makes it probably the best in this category. Must arrange a test ride of this and the SH350 and go from there. Thanks.
Thanks Thomas ...I think you'll like the Forza
Cheers mark
Ive had the sh300 and the Forza 300, sh is far more comfortable to ride, better wheel size and doesn't go bang over every drain cover on the road, the Forza looks so much better and has massive storage and a good amount of equipment, the downside is the poor front suspension and creaky plastics, plus i found the Sh300 much faster off the lights and better on fuel economy
@@leegentrylg thanks for the comment lee
Even If I am not into Hondas, I should say very good quality review, all needed section included. Started my own channel. Whish to reach this level somehow.
Thanks Gregor !
I own the Honda Forza 300cc and its a great touring machine. Last week I completed the Scottish NC 500 on it and it went up the famous 'pass of the cattle' road no problem. Its comfortable and has a good range.
The negatives are; it will cruise no problem at 65/70 but max it out at 80mph and it becomes a very scary machine. It jumps over motorway cats eyes and wind buffering when overtaking HGV is anxiously noticeable. I have read the handling on the 350 has been improved over the 300.
Thanks for the comment will ....yes I've had experience with the older 2014 model ...this new 350 handles and goes very well !!
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for replying. It's the newer 2019 model I'm riding, it's a scary machine at high speed. The mirrors are dodgy as well. Kind regards John.
i had a forza 300 until recently in spain and did a lot of two up riding on it, a great engine but the bike was severely restricted by the lack of pillion comfort and the appallingly bad suspension
@@keithfarrell4928 thanks for that info Keith ....I think they have improved the 350s suspension some what
Cheers mark
I just bought a 2024 model in blue!
Once I have done my motorcycle test, I am very interested in purchasing one of these scooters. I agree with one point that you brought up in the video: The price of these mid range scooters are really good, not too expensive, reasonably priced. But if you go into the higher cc scooters the price becomes more expensive. The question I have is this: Why?
I think the price of £5500.00 for a brand new Honda Forza 350 is absolutely fantastic, very reasonable.
Hi Michael...it's because of the technology...the 750 Forza for example has better brakes suspension the engine is more complicated with dct etc cheers mark
Thank you for this review I have just ordered one in red hope it lives up to expectations. Going by your review I’m going to be very happy 😃
Thanks Aaron yes you have chosen one of the best maxi scooters out there cheers mark
Have one . Last weekend did 600 miles round Wales on it . Great bike .
Very fine review up there Sir. Really enjoyed my commuting on the 300 version. They've answered the the screen issue I had there which is a big tick. Always wondered though why have a tacho on a Scooter?? I'd rather that space used for a larger speedo and info display like the PCX. Regards from Soggy Perth
Thanks for the comment David
Yes these Forza 350 are great
Best regards mark
Totally agree. Ditch the taco for a bigger speedometer and larger info screen.
Very nice review, yes maybe planning to get a mid size (300 to 400 cc) Maxi Scooter for the reasons you mentioned. Weight, power, price, transport capacity, still easy on fuel (must be below 4 Liters/100 kms - speachless prices in June 2022 .... ) Forza 350 will be in the inner circle definitely. B.R fr. Germany
Thanks Tom :)
Great review Mark. It is difficult to get test rides at the moment, so a good riding review is a cool second option. Thanks for your time.
Thanks Martin my pleasure 😊
Thank you for a great review as I had a suzuki burgman 200 6 months ago and that was a comfortable bike also I put on a j costa variator on it but it was ok but not worth the cost as the revs got higher but when you eased off the revs dropped down so the top speed was 77 mph but I must say the little 200 burgman was good
Thanks Timothy yes I like the burgman range :)
Cheers mark
I hope this motorcycle comes to Brazil very soon. Thank you for showing us.
Thanks for a great review, very thorough.
Ordered the same colour. Roll on August
Great choice rich :)
Same sentiments here. Honda keep putting back my delivery date 🙄
@@mootpointjones8488 I ordered about 5 weeks ago. Seems COVID has delayed deliveries
@@richfords3817 Good luck and I trust we'll still have lots of sunshine to go for a spin ☀️
Picked up my new Forza 350 today. Your review helped with the decision. Really happy, a great scoot with quite a bit of grunt.
Thanks Mark
I've just informed Mark on another of his videos, that in my opinion, this is not for the heavier biker (I am 96kg in all my winter gear) due to the inadequate suspension and the poor uk roads. A number of owners on youtube have upgraded both front and rear suspension.
As always great detailed reviews Mark!!! Thank you for informing us like we are testing .
Good review as always, Mark. Had my 300 Forza for 3 years as a winter workhorse and everything inbetween. Makes a great tourer too; light, economical, practical. Going to test the 350 next week to see if there's any difference in performance.
Great can you post on here how you find the new 350 vs your older 300
Many thanks
@@markpulling12 Possibly. Thanks Mark. Ride safe.
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark. Had my Forza 350 for a year now. Immediately felt the extra power. I love it! The rear suspension is a bit hard on poor surfaces. And, if I'm picking fault, the petrol flap doesn't always open (common fault apparently) and buying tyres every 3500-4000 miles is a bit of a pain too.
It's just brilliant, so smooth, 80mpg, and the only maintainance is checking the tyre pressures. I've owned over 30 bikes over a lifetime and this is one of the best.
Thanks for a very informative review, going to look at one tomorrow
Thanks David ...I'd say this is the best middle weight maxi scooter
Cheers mark
Finally had a chance to view a forza 350. Not for me found it cramped and kept hitting my knee on the Bluetooth controller
This color is pretty special. I don't even know if I love it or hate it.
Hi Mark, Great review. Just for me, in future include lock/turning circle, headlights (I know you do occasionally) service interval/estimated cos and estimated value in future so total cost of ownership can be judged.
Cheers Rog
While I remember, also report on whether a bike can power heated clothing... . That's all ! 🤪😉
I’ve watched you on the ADV 350 too, if you hade a choice which one would you have and why?
Love your reviews as you represent my size exactly:-) makes it easy for me to make a bit of a decision
Hi tough choice there but id go for the Forza because I wouldn't go off road ...and I just love the electric screen on the Forza ...it's my favorite mid sized scooter
Best wishes mark
Great video...downsides rear suspension awful and seat position/ride position very cramped definitely not feet forward like burgman.seat hump needs moving back about 2 to 3 inches ...engine however is sublime!
Thanks for that info charlie !
Cheers mark
Tried a Forza 300 a while back and found it very cramped at 6ft1 and 32" inside leg, more so than my old SH300i.
Lovely bike though.
Hi Mark picked mine up today, great fun, your review helped.
David
Thanks David ... great choice
Bought one last week ! Great review ! 👍✊😎✌️☠️🏍🇬🇮
Thanks David great choice :)
Once again Mark nice review. I think it would be a toss up between this one and the Xmax. Here in the states I’m still scratching my head why Honda doesn’t sell the Forza here. For me when the time comes it will be the Xmax. Yamaha has no competition. 😀
Thanks very much rob 😊
Great review mate.
I’m loving my X Max 300 apart from the two hours of labourer cost for the tail tidy.
The 1.99% finance sold me the Yamaha here in 🇦🇺
Thanks for the comment Stevie ...I enjoyed the xmax 300 :).
Buyd one my self recenttly.... EXELLENT BIKE... i could by a 750cc or bigger motorcycle but i dont need bigger,,,, this is bike is very recomendable... so thumbs up ;)
Thanks for the comment
This is the best mid size maxi imo
Regards mark
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark ! How does it feel compared to the XMax ? Just curious as I have an XMax. Am impressed however with the Honda you are riding. Pity Yamaha and Honda do not do a 400 cc. 400cc would seem like the sweet spot for me as far as combined touring and city traffic.
NZ. Regards.
@@johnmartin7158 this year Honda released this 350... Im sure they have 400 cc in theres plans...
Great review Mark, sooooooooo difficult between Yam and Hon, is it just beans in a different tin decision? My XMAX 400 certainly oozes class but then again that's subjective!!!!!
Hi yes it's definitely beans in a different tin or apples and oranges ...Id probably go for the Forza because of its electric screen
Cheers mark
MR Mark your recent selection of bikes to review is spot on. Like you read my mind. Exactly the bikes I would wish you to review. Could it be telepathically? ;-) The answer is "yes" if the next bike to review is new Ducati Monster or Piaggio Beverly 400. Regardles of this it's obviously a thumb up in here.
Thinking about one of these. Up to now I have tended towards a Suzuki Burgman 400 but this puts out the same power but is 36 kg lighter. Plus there is more underseat storage and you can adjust the screen on the move. The only things I am not happy about is the non-adjustable reat shocks (I like a soft ride) and the keyless ignition - I would rather have a traditional key start.
Plus the seat height. At 5ft 6 and 29 inch inside leg it might be a little tall for me. I will have to sit on one and see how I feel.
Great review well done just ordered one for Jan delivery , trading in a lovely x max 300
Thanks Alex ...I think this is the best mid size maxi scooter
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 yes Impulse buying at its best , it comes with the top box and phone kit so looking forward to next year , hope to tour northern Scotland , COVID permitting
@@alexmcaliister3533 haha lol ...the bikes I've had over the years ££££
I had in my garage an xmax300 2019 model but i sold it after 2 years and 35.000km for the updated model forza 350.
I bought the forza 350 on September 2021 without test driving it.
Let me share with you my impressions after 2 weeks of driving it and how it is compared to the xmax300.
• The seat material is not as good as the xmax300 and the whole construction closing and opening feels cheap.
• It has only one storage space on the left side and it is very deep and not easy to reach your stuff. Again the construction feels very cheap compare to the xmax300 which has 2 storage spaces.
• The biggest problem was some kind of vibrations that i was feeling at the seat, at the mirrors and at the steering when the scooter wasnt moving. I didnt faced anything like this with the xmax300 or any other scooter i have had.
• Fuel consumption about the same as the xmax for sure not better.
• Brakes better than the xmax300
• Rear Suspension is hard and not so soft as the xmax300.
• Steering is about the same as the xmax 300 small differences.
• The forza 350 engine feels quiter and stronger than the xmax300.
• The instruments and the mirrors are more premium than the xmax300.
Overall it didnt worth the upgrade and the whole experience of the forza350 left me unsatisfied.
The biggest problem for me is the vibrations of the scooter because it makes it feel cheap.
The xmax300 for me is the better option.
Thankyou fantastic comparison
Cheers mark
Hi Fotis, thanks for the comment on your forza. I,m a happy Xmax300 owner and thought I would keep the bike for a few years, but Honda's new adv350 has me tempted. Cannot wait for a test ride in the new year, interesting to find out what the adv rides like, taking your comments into consideration.
LF you had the option xmax 300 forza350 adv350 which you will prefer l can't decide
@@rti512 I bought an adv350 and for sure is the best between the three of them!
For me also the best looking scooter right now!
@@fotisproutzopoulos20 in 3 hours l will be at honda l newer see adv from near l hope don't look weird from near ,can hold 120,130 km on main road? End top speed?
Hi you Mark ! just ordered a new Forza today , satin red , heated grips and top box .
Great choice thanks Derek
Great review Mark and what a lovely part of England you live in Great roads.
Thanks this is my favorite mid size maxi scooter ;)
Excellent video Mark thanks, one main concern I have is security can you fits disc lock or chain when parking up ? Seriously looking at one of these. 👍🏴
Hi Steve yes both of those will fit no probs 😉
Hi Mark, great video and great timing as I'm on the verge of buying something in this class myself - do you have a preference between this and the Xmax 300? Seems like the Xmax is a bit nippier at the top end compared to the Forza? Cheers
Hi ade ...it is a little bit faster at the top but splitting hairs really maybe a few mph ...the Forza is stronger in the midrange ....both are brilliant but the screen on the Forza would win it for me :)
@@markpulling12 Aye that adjustable screen is nice, touch cheaper than the Xmax as well - Honda definitely upping the ante this year hoping to pinch a few sales off Yamaha! Cheers
You can change the variator weights for little money to make it accelerate faster or cruise at lower revs. I did it on my xmax250 but slightly heavier weights in made the acceleration (slightly slower) but cruised very quietly at 70mph because i rode it to spain and back. The problem with twist and go for me is i cant help twisting it to max as the zooooom effect is intoxicating, it leaves cars behind easily and will tussle with some motorbikes up to 40-50 asno gear change or clutch release. Try one very underated transport and very exciting. Trouble is twisting all time = mpg 60😂
Great test as usual mark. Looking forward to you test on the New Forza 750 soon I hope. Regards John
Honda x adv review coming soon :)
Before a long European road trip I tested this and several other maxi scooters. I ended up buying a Suzuki Burgman 200 (now discontinued) and it beat the Forza 300/350 on many levels, though it was - nearly new - almost half the price. The seat is a little too low so you need to be less than 5' 9" to enjoy it, but brakes were as good, consumption was 95+ mpg and cruise and top speed was similar. But crucially the suspension was miles more comfortable plus it is much lighter and can carry almost the same amount of luggage. No electric screen but I added a deflector and felt zero wind on my helmet for the whole trip in all weathers. The Forza is overall a better scooter but not at the price level and the suspension is not good - and ALL maxi scoots are miles too heavy.
Have a 150 adv in CA. With 19000 and its great 🏁🛵
Heavy for a 350. I really like my extremely light Yamaha Aerox 155 for local riding and shopping.
Yes the smaller scooters can't be beaten for zipping about on :)
Hi Mark. Good review again buddy.
I think this is a nice scooter, but I do prefer the ADV 350 personally.
I would have to look at the ADV 350 over this. That being said, this would still be a good shout in the Maxi Scooter world. The electric fly screen is good on this bike also.
Thanks yes my favourite is the adv over this one ...it has more compliant suspension:)
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Agreed.
excellent review...exactly what a scooter review has to be... thx👍
Hi Mark, being a Honda guy and where I love my 1200x, I was in the market for a second ride and it being a maxi scoot. I really was thinking Forza 350 but instead decided on the 400 Burgman for which I decided on in the end. Really quite pleased with the Burgman but after 1500 miles I was finding the seat a little to low so added a Air rider seat cushion to higher it slightly, but it's a good ride and enjoying the ease these scooters offer 👍🏻
Thanks Dave...yes the burgman 400 is brilliant I owned a 2011 model for a little while ... really enjoyed it :)
Cheers mark
I have teck max 2021 model 300 power grey colour best on category
@@user-yj5wq4yv5u thanks for the comment ...the xmax 300 is excellent !!
@@markpulling12 i considered the 400 burger prior to buying the forza but decided i would not be able to live with the look of the thing, ugly doesn't even begin to describe the suzuki burgers in my opinion
@@user-yj5wq4yv5u why did u choose the xmax instead of the forza 350?
Brilliant piece of kit,and not break the bank👌
Definitely Steven this would be my choice if I was to buy a maxi scooter cheers mark
Hi Mark, I appreciate how articulate you are and your descriptions on the ride seem to anticipate what the viewer might like to know. I am 5' 6.5" tall....would i be comfortable on this sort of machine...as I am also considering either a Yamaha or Burgman 400? Cheers from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.
Hi Bruce many thanks...just watch the seat height on these as it's very wide ...I'm 30 inch inside leg and I'm not flat footed...but apart from that they are very comfortable...I think the burgman is lower ....ps I watch a lot of Hudson and rex filmed in Newfoundland!!!
Best wishes mark
thanks for your answer...I have the same inseam. @@markpulling12
@@brucecggallagher1949 AHH brilliant you should be fine then Bruce :)
Great review . I love my forza 250 and upgrading to either the 350 or the Yamaha m max . Which would you say has the edge ? Cheers from OZ
Hi Nick I'd choose the Forza 350 ..plenty fast enough and it has the electric screen :)
Cheers mark
Thankyou . I realised by the time I’d finished writing the comment it had moved to the 750 review and done forza it is . I know the bike just get used to the extra power . Thanks mate
Having mine delivered on Friday, it's a 2015 Forza 300 model, being a 75 y/o, i am finding it hard to get my leg over a my Kawazaki, which I have now sold. So, this should prolong my 2-wheel activities a bit longer.
Lovely bike and great review but really suggest anyone that is bigger get a test ride.
I'm a 6ft1 / 32" inside leg former SH300i (and TMax amongst other bikes) owner and found myself cramped up.
I've since bought a Forza 750 but still find the seat height lower than I'd like. Why can't manufacturers make adjustable seats and bars?
Thanks for that info Robert
Cheers mark
Love your detailed review of bikes.. Making a choice isn't easy especially bikes that never even seen 1 in real life for eg. ADV 350. Since we have the same height and weight, that made me went to pay for the deposit of the bike. Still waiting for official confirmation to be on the road here in Singapore. Thank you 🙏🏻😊😊😊
Chosen ADV 350 over Forza is because of looks and the more width seem much wider than the ADV 350. The only super bad part about ADV 350 in Singapore, is the price which is about 18.5k++USD excluding road tax and insurance(another few hundreds)
In Singapore, for every vehicle bought, we need to pay COE(Certificate of Entitlement) that cost as of now price is about 7.9k(motor bike price only) for us to own 10 years only. 😂
One of the most expensive mid size(below 400cc) scooters here in Singapore. But since I am abusing it for work purposes(average riding 10 hours a day, average 125miles/day) , should be ok😂😂😂
Thanks Keith
@@markpulling12 thank you Mark and I always love watching others of your reviews. Just edited my previous comment more in detailed 😊. Cheers
@@coldhart79 thanks Keith just read your comment many thanks 👍
Great review Mark! 👍
Why is this scooter called "350", when the engine size is 330cc ?
Good question Ive been saying this for years ... manufacturers just seem to like the sound of round numbers and round it up :)
Hello Mark,
Excellent review as always!
Where would your money go, the Forza 350 or the Xmax 300?
Also, which one would fit best for 1.90 meters tall people?
Thank you very much.
Hi Albert they are both brilliant...I slightly prefer the Forza for it's electric screen . ..you should be fine on both at 190 cm
Cheers mark
Thank you so much for your prompt reply Mark. I also like Forza more than Xmax but I was in a dilemma because of my height.
@@AK-xu1fx I'm trying to think of a large maxi scooter but I think they are all a similar kind of physical size ....maybe the suzuki burgman 400 may have more leg room.... hopefully someone else will reply here regards mark
@@markpulling12 I think the Burgman 400 may have slightly more leg room. The 8000 miles service interval and electric screen sold the Forza to me
@@stevelynes8058 Many thanks!
Hey nice channel, I have been collecting bikes and scooters for a while now its eems there are scooters available in Europe that you cant get here in the US, right now I have a burgman 400, Honda helix and a Yamaha Morphous,,,,for my comfort I find myself spoiled with the comfort of the morph and helix and I really love the low center of gravity, but I am a sucker for speed so I like higher CC bikes, do you have any thoughts on the helix and morphous? TY again!
Hi thanks for the comment...sorry I don't know anything about those two. Scooters ....I've not really seen those on UK roads ever ...
Best wishes mark
Currently have an SH300i. Seriously considering this or an X-ADV. Test rode this Forza 350i and the 750 today, think I prefer the 350 for my type of riding. Final decision to be made after a loan of the X-ADV when my SH gets serviced....
Thanks roel I think the forza 350 is the best maxi scooter cheers mark
Just trade up to the sh350i
I'm still on the fence whether to purchase a maxi scooter as a 2nd bike
Great reviews on your channel
Best regards
Thanks ... Yes they make great runarounds and are good fun :)
I have a 400 Burgmann as my second bike and my 30 mile commute (25 miles A road or Motorway, 5 miles urban jams) takes no longer on it than it does on my Triumph Tiger 800. I would say the scooter with its CVT is better than the bike if you do much rush hour town travel. Once you get used to the different handling you can corner with enthusiasm! One possible downside with some of these scooters is the short service interval of some models, which can increase running costs and inconvenience if you have to get it serviced twice (or more) each year.
@@rodbowes5309 thanks for the comment rod
Yes I had a burgman 400 back in 2011 ... great machine !
Very informative review, thank you. Question: Does it come with a basic tool kit?
Hi yes it does ☺️
Nice ; lots of reviews all good. Is there any change between Forza 350 2021 and 2022 ?
Hi many thanks
No difference 21/22
Cheers mark
I still have my Cruisym 300i 2018
Needed in the U.S.A!
Am considering one of these for our motorhome. Any idea how it would cope with a pillion ?
We need something comfy and reliable over performance. Thank you for another great review.
Hi Karl these are plenty powerful enough to carry a pillion and comfortable too
Cheers mark
Thanks for the information ❤️🙏🙏
My pleasure
Regards mark
Hello, It's a great review thank you👍. I love the Honda Forza 350😊 and I like the kymco xciting s 400i. Can't decide which one to go for.😆 Are you planning in the near future to do a review on the kymco please, thanks
Hi I'll see if my local dealer does kymco brand ...they look good !
Regards mark
I have a PCX 150 and an AK 550 both 2018. The Honda is far and away better quality than the Kymco for components with the Kymco prone to erosion in a coastal area.
@@aaaces01 thanks for the comment cheers mark
Well I owned a Sym Citycom 300 which is tantamount to the Kymco brand and despite living up in damp cold Scotland I had no issues with corrosion on the Sym
The screen on the 300 has a few niggling points. I have a larger after market screen on now but some of the points I can make apply to both the standard and aftermarket.
I'm 5'11" and when I first got the bike I played around with the screen more than I do now. Just the luxury of having an electronically adjustable screen. For slow riding the screen down is fine until riding over cobbles or any bumpy surface, because the screen rattles when down but not when up. As for the height of the screen... I'm often just slightly hunched to keep my face in the protective bubble the screen provides. If the screen is just slightly too low, the wind in my face is worse than no screen at all because while the screen does give excellent comfort if you're in the bubble.. it also creates turbulent air around the bubble. Turbulent air in your face is worse than mere wind.
These things are why I got the larger aftermarket screen.
Thanks for the comment Pete
Useful info cheers
@@markpulling12 no problem
Hi Mark...if you had to choose between a forzza 350 or x max which would you go for? Great review
Hi Daryl ....both are great...the xmax is a tiny bit faster but I'd go for the honda ...I really like it's adjustable screen and slightly prefer it's ride quality.....I'd go for the honda . . cheers mark
hi Mark great review. i have a honda 600 silverwing which is a great scooter but the fuel range is not great i get about 135 to the tank before the led starts flashing. this 350 is so good on fuel.
Sold my much liked Silverwing in April and bought Forza 350. No regrets.
@@marvincon1417 yes it's a very good scooter the 350. Love my silver wing but the economy is not great. Enjoy.
hi ian....yes these are very good on fuel ..at least 80 mpg id say :)
I have a honda Silverwing 400 / SW-T 400 (from 2011) and its fuel consumption is just slightly worse than my other scooter, a Yamaha Majesty 250 (from 1998): 4,2 liter per 100 km for the Honda compared to 4,0 liter per 100 km for the Yamaha. Not quite sure what that is in mpg (always struggling with American gallons vs imperial gallons) But I'm sure its well more than the Forza 350. Still, it gives me a range of around 300 km / 190 miles. In return, the Silverwing gives me the smoothness of two cilinders, 39 HP and a frame-mounted engine. And it's very stable, imo partly because of the weight which is a whopping 247 kilograms..... But then: it's never meant to be a sprinter.
What I would like to have from the Forza is the adjustable screen! Mine was just a bit too low for me, which I countered with a little extension which can be tuned angle-wise.