This is absolutely heartbreaking. I wish this family could have had 5 minutes alone with this freak. I can tell you that this news program is one of the best productions I've ever seen. In America we get 2 minutes of what's really happened and the rest is corporate sponsored propaganda.
Thanks so much for watching, and for commenting, Tracie. It is a truly shocking and devastating story. Our hearts go out to all of Chloe's family. Such an avoidable tragedy.
Tracie, your comment resonates with me. I often watch Australian productions as I find they are often more raw, or honest, as compared to the smoke, mirrors, white noise, and blatant static of American propaganda.
I watch more news type documentaries from Australia, Canada and England versus those produced in the US. Australia and Canada do a better job reporting on U.S. newsworthy stories than the U.S. does. I also rarely watch U.S. television shows and movies, since getting access to streaming content 5 years ago when I got a Roku player.
Not guilty? Everyone involved in that decision should be ashamed of themselves. The way the police treated the uncle worse than her actual killer is beyond me...
I was thinking the same exact thing. Here is the innocent uncle being treated like the scum of the earth, and they all treat the real killer/child rapist with kid gloves. I will NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE WORLD IS TODAY…so much evil is tolerated, acceptable and excusable. Animals don’t treat their own kind this way with such disregard!
They treated the uncle like a criminal and went easy on the torturer/murderer. Guy who kills gets coddled. Guy who searched and found body gets stripped naked and degraded.
@@RawOlympia You need to educate yourself if that is what you believe. The US has one of the worst prison systems that abuses prisoners in the first world.
Mom's last harsh response to her daughter before her daughter disappeared makes you think about the words exchanged between you and your loved ones may be the last. Puts things into perspective.
I cringed when she said that her last words to Chloe were to leave her alone, because she was busy tidying up. No one shoud ever blame her for a totally normal response to a persistent child. I feel so sorry for the mother, those final words will haunt her the rest of her life. But the truth is, the killer would have found another opportunity to kidnap Chloe. There weren't enough loving words in the world to protect her from being a target.
When I heard that my heart broke and I wondered was Chloe going to say something to her Mother about going to play with the cats around the “neighborhood”? I’m sure mom would have told her no! I can’t stop thinking about this case! I am so hurt and angry and I didn’t know her. I can’t imagine what this family is.going through! 💔😡😢
i love that she admitted that. it must be really hard for her knowing thts the last thing she said to her but I imagine its even harder to actually admit it publicly. couragous of her bc it does make parents think twice on how they leave off w their children 🥺
He knew exactly what he did. He hid her body when the police came and later he took her out and dumped her like garbage. If I am this disturbed, imagine how her mom and family must feel.
Yup, I agree. Here they release high-risk offenders all the time once their sentences are up. I think they should be put through some kind of program once their sentences are up and then extend their sentence for longer if they are still a high risk. Most high risk offenders commit crimes when out again, even if they have conditions. They're criminals for a reason, "conditions" don't stop them.
Agreed 100%. Just the way he dumped her body like garbage, still undressed, proves he had no remorse. If he had a moment of insanity, and then later came to his senses he would've at least laid her to rest with some level of dignity. People go to jail for tax issues yet murderers go scot-free. What a world we live in🥺
It's horrific that the justice system in Australia didn't charge him for murder! It's utter bull sh*t!!! He KNEW what he was doing because he lied to cover it up! True judgement is coming!
@@shellcshells2902 I feel like a jury should have tried him and then the review panel should have heard from the original jury members and victims before letting him out.
"He's gone through a lot of rehabilitation." Someone please inform Tim's mother that p*dophiles can't be rehabilitated and the only effective treatment for her son is a woodchipper.
Exactly! If he had ripped the bags off of her face, which would be anyone's first instinct (people that know and love her), he may have damaged the fingerprints....so, I do believe Chloe was guiding him.
He packed her in a bag and took her to where she was found. And that alone doesn't tell the doctors he knew what he was doing? Totally unacceptable . He had a clear mind when he got rid of her lifeless body . He should be charged guilty for that... Lock him up.
In episodes of acute schizophrenic relapse, the cognitive ability needed to plan and carry out stuff like that isn't really there. They often have disorganised thinking and poor memory. I could be wrong about this. I'm still learning about Schizophrenia and cognition.
Yeah I am watching this in shock that they would release someone who kidnapped, raped and murdered a 5 yo and yes the act of covering up the crime is clear evidence that he was fully aware and knew he had done something very bad. I think what kind of system would release that type a person back to even risk any kids he might be around..
Someone needed to tell that judge Pedophilia is NOT a mental illness. Edit. I have said several times below that since my initial comment, after an interesting discussion here, I have learned that, whether i agree with it or not it IS actually regarded as a mental illness and I now accept that I believe I'm right in my comments that mental illness does not automatically remove criminal responsibility though. "Criminal insanity" has to be proved and I believe it wasnt in this case. Besides, even if it had been proved in court, there was premeditation and the person presents a significant danger to the public. So, whichever way you look at it, I believe the judge was wrong.
@@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk Pedophilia is also a crime. it’s interesting to me that between the two, this judge decided to go with mental illness instead of rating it a crime severe enough to put the guy away for the rest of his life, and beyond. Seems to me this judge has a personal favoritism.
it is, you should read up about the definition of mental illness and why p3edophilia is classified as one. It's interesting but it makes sense that it is.
My goodness. They treated the uncle worse than the piece of trash that destroyed little Chloe! Watching the uncle dry heave after finding poor Chloe is harrowing. I want to give him the biggest hug and thank him for being the hero Chloe needed.
@Michelle: 💯 with you on that. Watching the uncle overcome with emotions is gut wrenching. I wanted to reach out to give a hug too. And of course, also the mother. My heart breaks for her unimaginable pain 💔
How is a person who “doesn’t know that what they did was wrong” able to be so clear mentally that they can dispose of a body etc? The “doctors” who made that judgement should be hospitalized themselves. And stripped of their licenses.
@@orionxtc1119 tf are you talking about? If you couldn’t see tears, I suggest getting your eyes checked….you’re hitting peak ignorance with that comment.
Just a side note, I am glad the Aussie news programs do not censor cuss words like they do in the US and let everyone speak freely. It feels more raw and real. Anyone in this situation would cuss to release anger, frustration, and sadness, and these emotions should not be restricted in any way.
That’s what I thought too. When I first heard a curse word I was like “did they forget to bleep it?” This feels like such a more honest story than any of ours do. Ours always aim for dramatics instead of telling the real story.
This is one of the most miscarriages of justice I've ever seen... He was totally aware when he was in denial about knowing who she was and having anything to do with her murder.... He knew enough about hiding the body and covering his crime to remembering every part of the murder...The judge should be ashamed of himself really ashamed!!
And the judge sat with a smirk on his face 😡it's a shame for the family come out of his mouth shocking they should tell the family where he is living let them do what they need to and let them have justice for little chloe
i hope the family send the judge a card every year with a photo of chloe smiling with the words that say " thanks judge for letting my killer go free to possibly murder again "
Truly crazy persons do not understand what they have done is wrong, so they do not lie about their crimes, nor do they bury or hide the bodies... Only those with an awareness of the law would try to hide their crimes from fear of punishment- which also proves guilt
How can he be free? That judge was shocking!!! They should have taken his license away loooong time ago! What a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to her family 😢
@tammyb7493 umm...u do know there's no such a thing as a judge's "license", right? Like u don't *actually* think that's a thing, do u? 😂😂😂😂oh my god🤦🏽♀️
@@evilangel2918 Judges have to be licensed to practice law the same way that attorneys do. You’re trying to make them seem dumb but you actually sound very dumb. There definitely is a such thing as a law license. I have one. I’m a licensed attorney.
Did that judge just say “ looking at the victims point of view it would’ve been a horrible waste”? 🤬. Would you have that same attitude if it was your daughter or grandchild?
I did a double take when I heard that too! I mean from everybody's point of view it should be a terrible waste. But maybe he just is not good with words....
I hate that judge. Something abnormal in him .. I just don't like the vibes he gives. Also, what judge or psychiatrists think .. this is acceptable as psychosis .. he knew what he did ..
As a nurse l can tell you there is no way she can guarantee that anyone is going to be safe around this man. One episode of psychosis is all it will take for him to murder her or another child. He should never have been let out. The fact that he knew what he did to Chloe let's me know that he wasn't in a state of psychosis either. He was mentally competent at the time.
He not only knew what he was doing was wrong, he disposed of her body where they had already searched, so he knew what he did was wrong, he hid his crime in a knowledgeable way. That flies sin the face of common sense. They should let his neighbors know what he is and what he has done!
Can’t believe they really thought the uncle had done it. Her little brother would have recognized him if he was the one who took Chloe! And wouldn’t have called him ‘the man with the yellow hair”.
It made sense. Police can’t go on “something just told me to look there” as gospel. They know to look at family first and one who miraculously finds the little girl is going to be their first suspect. They were doing their job.
@@toekafrank6998 The statistics don’t support your statement if you are referring to murder. I looked NSW up online as the law varies across the states and territories. The ABS publishes all crime statistics and the sentences. The use of this defense has been reviewed and the changes are published online. I read this all time about Australia, so I looked up that one state.
A mother who created this horrid mentality in the first place. I would call 'commanding voices' something from demons. Medication doesn't help much againts those damned blighters.
@Monica-vi7xj only a childish selfish mother could think that. I would care enough about my son, that I wouldn't want him to have to go have the darkness of ever hurting another human being much less a child again, by being as real and honest about his sickness, whatever that looks like. Otherwise, he may never get the help he needs to actually change and grow as a man. He may always just be a sick deluded monster. Even if he gets that help through lofe in prison, if that's the best option for my son to be the best he can, that's the decisions that are made out of real love.
I’m Australian and he certainly seemed ‘sane’ in his initial interview. He’s calm and completely literate . I’m sick to death of hearing ‘mental issues’ or ‘ I had a bad childhood’. So did my dad and he was the gentlest and loveliest of men! It is not an excuse for anything, it’s just an excuse for bad behaviour , bad manners and , in his case, murder. Why on earth should he be free, that family are still living a nightmare and that poor uncle. How degrading when your just family. Mind you, police see all kinds of evil under the sun. Rest In Peace little girl and blessings to all the family 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Yes I’m sick of hearing those EXCUSES too.!!!! I’ll bet at least half the people in prison tried to use that excuse.!!!! It’s ridiculous. I think the same about Meghan Markle about HER so called “issues”.!! It’s a trend now to say this..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had a bad childhood. I have mental health issues. But I have never hurt anyone, it’s just not an excuse. There is having mental health issues, and then there is true insanity- not knowing right from wrong.
If he did it and admitted it then he is guilty - mental or not he should be punished accordingly! Cases like this are infuriating, I can’t begin to imagine how the family feel
It wasn’t the Judge’s fault. They apply the law. It is beginning to look like the mental health services are not doing their job. I am so sorry for Chloe and her family. Have they claimed damages against the media who released him? The law on mental health defences need urgently reviewed.
People underestimate intuition and gut feelings. If it's not 'provable' its suspicious. We've been taught NOT to trust our gut or intuition. Bravo to him.
He has no leg monitor, completely free. Can be around the children of the community he lives in. What’s wrong in Australia? The places he lives have no clue what he’s done???!
@@Strawn149 me too but they somehow still seem to stun me. These are your children !! If he can't control himself he will do it again ! There is NO CURE for pedophilia. He did everything he could not to get caught. Including murder her. What makes them believe he won't do it again ? Nothing.
@@ReeseMalott1976I disagree. I watch a lot of crime shows and they are consistently weak on sentencing there . If this were the US he would likely get death depending which state it is in . If not death, the rest or nearly the rest of his life in prison. Thank God. Every once in awhile something goes wrong but usually that's what happens.
HOW IS IT THAT JUDGES HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY?!?!? This made me literally sick to my stomach seeing the judge and it enraged me he didn’t get real justice for this little girl. I know someone very close to me with a rather severe case of schizophrenia and this POS isn’t exhibiting any of the same signs. I couldn’t even imagine allowing him to walk free if that was my child. Screw that judge and the pos that did this to that sweet innocent girl.
You could tell he didn’t give a sh&t. And that’s BS that he has to go with the submissions. They should have also named and shamed those two POS psychiatrists
They’re different types of mental illness! I suffer from depression and I’m quite sure it’s very different from people who have been diagnosed insane! Just like tumours, some of which are benign and some are malignant. But, according to you, doctors should be prescribing exactly the same meds for every person suffering from mental illness! Oh, dear!
@@E-Kat I never said anything about medicine. The entire premise of "Blacking out" is that you do something incredibly strange or unlike your typical behavior.. You don't remember it in full detail, if any of it at all.
@@E-Kat Also "Insane" isn't a diagnosis, and hasn't been for a long time in the United States. it's a legal term. You get diagnosed with a specific disorder not insanity. Like schizophrenia, schizoeffectice disorder, depression, BPD etc
This is sooo sad. Poor mother and family. That judge should have given him lifesentence. And yes why didn't they ask the little brother, he said the man with the yellow hair...so the brother did see something. And that police putting that poor loving uncle that found her. My heart goes out to him.
The fact that this guy had the presence of mind to hide until the coast was clear before he carried Chloe’s battered body, hidden from view, to be discarded, is proof enough for me to know that he was thinking clearly.
But as long as her takes his COVID jabs, he can remain out of jail. We must reserve the prisons for the COVID jab non-compliant. Tim's mother sounds like she has no conscience.
He was aware enough to dispose of poor dear little Chloe; aware enough to maintain a facade with the police and aware enough to request a lawyer. Terrible. Wishing peace and healing to the family.
That baby was calling the uncle she loved so much to come and get her. No doubt in my mind. I'm glad the police didn't continue to falsely accuse him. My heart breaks for him for not only losing her but finding her too. He shouldn't have had to see her like that but she knew who to call to. She knew who would hear her and listen. She was right.
That just breaks my heart. They obviously had a really close relationship. That monster took it all away😢. And he doesn’t even get punished😢. You matter to us Chloe! We love you and miss you terribly. I hope you are enjoying dancing with the angels RIP sweetheart 🙏🏼💙😇
Absolutely heartbreaking. I had a man grab my daughter at a park when she was 6 years old she screamed and I never ran so fast in my life. I kept beating on that guy until the cops got there, I can't explain the fear and panic running through your body and mind. Horrifying
I have just stumbled across this website and Chloe's story is the second one I watched. It is so heartbreaking to see what happened to that young child and know that he is free. My heart aches for your loss. May God provide you comfort and peace.
The police seemed disappointed when they realised that the uncle was innocent, as they believed they had an open and shut case. Never once did they apologise to the uncle.
I agree with you but the unfortunate part about this situation is there were several coincidences and in just about any case involving a child’s murder, it’s the family that gets questioned first. Honestly, when I heard his story, the first thing I did was suspect him. He opened himself up for serious interrogation when he told the police he found her. The detectives were just doing their job and they don’t really owe anyone an apology for doing their job.
His photo should be on every school gate/door, milk and juice bottles, newsagents windows you name it, may every community he tries to hide in be aware of how he looks and what he has done!!!
Better still use a Branding iron on their face like they do to cattle , if the so called law and so called mental health professionals insists that these types of monsters go free to roam
What they put her Uncle through is exactly why we don't get involved in searches. When my husband & I were young like that our nieces & nephews pictures were the only photos in our wallets too. We never even had pictures of our friends in our wallets, to us THAT would've been weird. The fact that the police frequently accuse the person who finds the body keeps many people from helping look. You can't trust police. They're more quick the pretend they have evidence or fabricate evidence than they ever are of saying "We were wrong" My brother in law is a lawyer married to a DA & they drill it into all the kids in the family to NEVER answer their questions without an attorney, never go in that room without an attny, until you have an attny shut up. If they break the law & keep asking you questions answer with (I have already requested an attny. You can't question me without an attny) A cop can & will always testify against you but never for you. And a cop can LEGALLY LIE to you
Sorry, homie, but the human mind is more complex than single solutions for everyone like that. Some people can and need to forgive, some people need to hold onto the anger to stay sane in a mad world. It's all just coping with crazy stuff like this. Also don't abuse pop-psych words like that. :P
Yes! They say forgiveness is for YOUR inner peace. Yet, I can't attack or preach to someone for not forgiving someone who hurt them or a loved one. You can heal without forgiving, imo.
If only they could have let you at least connect on hit. I wouldve got myself admitted into the same hospital as him or found a way to get to him. I'd still be plotting till this day to make his life miserable. He doesn't deserve to be able to move on and forget about that poor little girl....R.I.P Chloe
The fact that the uncle was suspected and he fully complied to anything and everything being stripped naked and they never did any of that to Timothy. And the fact he didn't want his parents to know. WHAT about Chloes parents? I understand our mental Healthcare sucks but it doesn't mean we let everyone who hears voices to get away with murder
This man knew exactly what he was doing, the fact that he felt the need to get rid of her body after the fact shows that there is no mental illness involved. If he suffered from from mental illness he would not have worried about getting rid of evidence
Exactly, he even told the police he wasn't hearing voices at that time. He should have been locked up for the rest of his life. This would have given Chloe's family some justice, and the community would be protected.
He lies everyting during the first interview, apart from that he suffered from his environment. That settles the situation far enough, I think. Disgusting.
The judge is a POS for giving the monster a free pass to not be punished for his heinous crime. I would not depend on that court for any kind of justice for anything. I'm so over it with criminal sympathizers.
If I was Chloe's mum I would make it my life's mission to let everyone in Australia know what Timothy looks like and where he lives. I would hand out flyers, have a Facebook page, set up a go fund me if people want to help fund my efforts. I would take civil action and sue him for whatever I could and 100% make sure he could never make money off selling his story. I hope Karina isn't blaming herself for what happened and it's so good to see how much family support she has. Her family is incredible and Karina and Chloe are lucky to have them still fighting for them both.
She did. We all know how he looks and where he often is. How the house of his mother looks like. Who is his father, his mom. We know it. I bet she had no interesst for an TV interview, buts he did it for her daughter exactly for that reason.
@@dianabrown8176 likewise .. I’d hire a hit man and instruct him to make sure that cretin was tortured for a few hours before being asphyxiated with plastic bags!!
This is crazy, how can these professionals sleep at night for not putting him in jail? He could still get treatment and medication. He shouldn't be free.
There are times when so called justice is useless. As if this kid's life meant absolutely nothing. Australia, come on. The uncle was treated more like a criminal than the killer.
"That which we do in secret, is hidden in shame, with the foreknowledge of guilt. " Malcom x he knew exactly what he was doing. Truly crazy people do not understand what they have done is wrong, so they do not try to cover it up, nor do they lie about it...his very actions prove his guilt.
@@c.a.greene8395 , Malcolm X is a part of the problem instead of part of the solution. Also, talk is cheap and worthless, but actions are priceless and invaluable.
Yup. Her only chance to seek out the help from someone she knew would save her. Rest in paradise little angel. Bless the uncle as well....when he was gagging....poor man. I hope he sees this...insert expletives...in a dark alley and then says he heard voices telling him to do it.
@@Weightingtablesafter I often think that: comforting. But comforting doesn't necessarily equal true. Frankly, I don't even know what words like 'spirit' and 'soul' mean. They're just meaningless woo to me.
I am in shock. Firstly, because I can't believe I haven't heard of this story before and secondly because I grew up in that caravan park in the late 60s and early 70s. Undoubtedly there was a criminal element in the park and in the area but what I remember most is the many loving (but poor) families just trying to get by. For the most part it was a fun, free place to live and I have lots of lovely memories. My friends and I played in the river behind the park, we played in the pine grove between the park and the bridge, we wandered around alone and unsupervised and never came to harm. I know the world was a different place 50 years ago but children should still be able to play and be safe. This sort of crime against an innocent child should not happen and should not go unpunished. I am heartbroken for the family.
I grew up in England in the 80s and 90s and was out all day with my mates and never went home until tea time. Like you we were unsupervised and have some of my best memories from that time. It's a shame kids can't have that same freedom and experience's now. Love from Portsmouth 👋
What makes me physically ill is thinking of the situation, this horrible evil thing happening just a few doors down to your own child.ugh I just can't even imagine that poor mother having those thoughts running through her mind constantly..
I agree. I do understand the mother’s need to think that he can be managed, because it must be horrible to know your child is a monster, but all she’s doing is enabling him.
And if you knew he was very disturbed, had spent years, devoting your life to trying to get him help BEFORE something this tragic happened, how would you feel then? How would you feel about the system of mental heath facilities, and hospitals who wouldn't help him, and refused to treat him, and keep him safe in a facility? BEFORE he could hurt himself or anyone else?
Go look up what Freemasons are! A lot of cops a lot of Judges a lot of doctors a lot of people in high places are Freemasons once you find out what this government is really about and how evil and disgusting they are you'll understand why monsters like this are set free they think nothing's wrong with this kind of evil!
My daughter, 13 years old, is almost never interested in documentaries. She wanted to do my nails today and as we scrolled through RUclips for something to keep us occupied, this documentary caught my eye. My daughter wasn't interested in the beginning but after watching it, I could see how much it moved her. I am grateful to Chloe's family for sharing this tragic part of their lives, so others, like my daughter, are aware that there are evil people in this world and not to trust anyone she doesn't know. She is absolutely disgusted with the murderer and feels terrible for Chloe and hurting her family.
@@Candlewick14 While I may try to appreciate your concern for my daughter, I can't help but think "you mind your child's business and I'll mind mine". Besides, I'd much rather her be aware that such evil people do exist than a victim of one.
@@Candlewick14 What..? I hope you're not saying showing a documentary to a 13 yo is abuse... All parents have different limits as to what they allow their children to watch, but you have no place telling Brandy how she should parent. Most 13 year olds are also mature enough to watch these types of docs with parental guidance. They are quite aware of what's happening in the world, no way to shield them that much without stripping them of common sense. Sometimes I wonder if people have forgotten all about being 13...
I do believe that monster lured Chloe away by telling her he had new kittens at his place and would she like to play with them. I believe this crime was 100% premeditated and his defense was 100% contrived. So fvck that bullsh*t about parallel realities or whatever that man gave as an explanation why Kosowicz did what he did. I hope wherever Kosowicz goes for the rest of his life that he'll be hounded by people who want him to know that they know he's guilty as hell.
Sad thing is that he is going to go into another neighbourhood where he and his misdeeds are unknown and lure another child to his/her death and everyone, after the fact, will be wailing about how it could have been avoided had they known. When the correct thing would have been to remove the threat and deal with it/him.
I’ve watched way too many crime shows and documentaries, and I’ve never been as moved as I was as I watched Chloe’s uncles-all big, strong men-fight to control their tears as they describe their obvious love for beautiful Chloe and their fury over how her killer could be so cold & calculated and yet be found not guilty. Those men adored that precious little girl, and their pain & her mother’s anguish is palpable, even 14 years later. This was a travesty of justice, and Chloe deserved far better from the criminal justice system!
Omg same. I started to cry with the uncles and mother. Especially how the mother was torturing herself, thinking about if she cried out for her. If she was scared... and etc 😭
My heart goes out to Chloe's mother and her totsl devastation. Herself becoming house bound and living like a prisoner herself while he is free to roam the world with his mummy.... Praying healing to her deep wounds and troubled soul, and her family. 🕊💗🌟 Guilty but not responsible is as bad as sayin not guilty. If he's not responsible, then he's got demons. If he were ny son, i wouldnt dream of covering his damned butt for his despicale crimes. Him living near a school is criminal offence, and certainly strange when he doesn't like children 😡
The uncle finding her was amazing. Also thank god he listened to what ever told him not to go near her lil body or touch it. He would have been put to jail if he had
They don't really give people life in the UK either......which is annoying. They set the minimum such as 20-30 years. I've spent nearly 40 years battling my mental health so I know people who actually physically harmed someone else won't change easily in 20-30 years. Once you've done it before it's easier to do it again and again.
@@marleyhill34 I’m from the uk so I know but sexually assaulting and then murdering a child is absolutely abhorrent. I’d say we atleast give child killers decent sentences
@@Lemonsponges Sad thing Broadmoor only has 284 beds and there are way more dangerous crazy people out there than that. At least Ian Huntley got 40 years minimum but that's 20 years per child. The way he was on TV I wouldn't let him out in 20 years. He had life but then they changed it to 40 years minimum. Maxine Carr is out living a life of Larry. so frustrating! Literally spending millions protecting her and giving her a new identity. The UK is a small place she'd best leave...but I doubt she can based on parole.
I feel like the mom of Timothy is doing her Best to make people feel like they can be comfortable with her son out but the bottom line is she needs to realize that she can’t control her son. And she needs to understand why people feel the way they do about her son
Its not sick and jaded that they think this way. More than 80% of murders are done by someone close and usually family. His position was very suspicious and they have follow that. Its sick and jaded that so many will take out their family for many reasons.
I can actually understand why he was the nr 1 suspect at the beginning . If a was an investigator I would be suspicious towards him at the begging too. Heartbreaking all around
Seems like a waste of all the police efforts..and he’s still free... There should be a secondary set of legislation of law that keeps monsters like this locked in at least a institution of some kind. A child has died ..he can do it again,some time in the future..it’s not fair on society to where ever he moves ,that unknowingly puts another’s child life at risk..simply cos they don’t know he lives nearby..perish the thought.
Horrible 😱 I. All countries. The worse the crime, the lighter the sentence. Little wonder people take matters into their own hands. Friggin. sickening.
@@MariaLopez-hc2nm , if they are unrepentant of their evil, yes, but otherwise, you all are ironically just as homicidal as those that you condemn in your lives.
@@paxhumana2015 very easy for you to say that. I wonder if you would feel the same if it was your child and the monster was repentant . Would you just forgive?
The number of times the killer himself and his family tried to get him admitted for his mental problems is unforgivable. It can be difficult to have someone admitted against their will, but he was asking to be. Repeatedly. That is an absolute failure of the system and shameful.
Yes and then the irony is that it costs much more in the end in terms of human suffering as in Chloe's case and in keeping him in an institution for years after what he has done. Complete lack of care.....maybe they should be changed with that.
There is no way in Australia to have someone scheduled against their will if they aren't showing signs of suicidal ideations. Our laws don't permit families to institutionalise their family members, even children, adults or not. It's insane, so many crimes could be prevented.
Finally, Someone speaking with their brain instead of JUST heart.... They sure did wait until the end to tell us that the killer HIMSELF ( and his family ) sought help MULTIPLE times But pretty much were denied by lazy INCOMPETENT so called professional losers. Chloe's parents should be suing them even just to expose them, to get them fired, and to fix the system. Blaming the killer's Mother is dumb.....it wasn't easy for her to get in front of the camera knowing what her son did....... Jenn Righter is 100 percent correct.
It is. Makes me question how they're taking care of him now or taking care of two mothers and two fathers who are dealing with such a tragedy, even if in different ways.
I’m absolutely gobsmacked watching this. That little girl and her family were failed by everyone. That monster should be locked up. How chloes mum is still standing is beyond me. Sending my love to all of the family x
This is the most accurate use of the word "gobsmacked". Indeed gobsmacked. Tge fact in the end he couldn't even *act* remorseful. What rehabilitation will help such a fella?? He needs to be held in a mental institution for the rest of his life
Totally agree. I always have grave reservations, as some of these mental health assessors get it wrong. Besides how do they not know if he will start to hear voices again ? Plus blaming drugs, etc is a cop out too. The Australian people should be totally outraged and demand changes, to their system. Do they have a on line "change" petition, to force changes from their law makers and others, etc. The family need someone to help them with this as they are too broken down with grief. Awful & devastating !!
I just cannot fathom how someone could do that to an innocent child or anyone for that matter! He may be schizophrenic but he’s also a psychopath and a necrophiliac.. See the huge pentagram tattoo? Obviously into Satanism.. probably part of some sick ritual..
He said he didn’t know what he was doing, but remembers everything he did, and sexually abusing a child is not something you can do because you hear voices. He clearly new he had done something wrong because he covered it up.
I've also read somewhere that "hearing voices " is a cop out , an act , something you see on a movie , a person who is truly mentally ill will hear A voice not many at once
@@sarahlong5648 It's uncommon to have voice hallucinations at all, and for those who do, way more common with one voice than more. But there are also cases with multiple voices.
I have nothing but respect for every family member and friend who saw this monster and instinctively tried to get to him. I thankfully do not know, but I can only assume that I wouldn't react very similarly. I hope none of these loving family members walked away with any charges that day.
Exactly! He was still very aware of his actions and that they were wrong. He tried to cover it up, he waited to do so, and he attempted to lie until he couldn’t! Then and only then did these “command voices” show up!
@@coffeecrimegal5968 I wish I could remember the case, but there was someone here in the US that tried to use the same defense, and was found guilty because he had the presence of mind to hide the crime. Should be the way it works. That command voices crock makes me sick inside.
Because they knew they screwed up letting him out into the community unsupervised!! If I had my way, every diagnosed crazy would have two mandatory weekly checks with the police and a psychologist. People go to AA meetings every day to beat/control their addiction but people with mental health have nothing like that. I have BPD and I haven't seen a psychiatrist in months! No one knows If I'm flushing my meds down the toilet. They can run a quick blood test to see if they are in your system. The police the authorities they all know who is crazy, who is on drugs and who is the local crook. The thing is that they are underfunded and understaffed to do the actual safety checks to reduce the harm caused by dysfunctional people in society. So when the judge asks for evidence for keeping crazies locked up, they haven't compiled the evidence correctly or not at all. I mean I'm grateful for not being locked up in a sanitorium for the rest of my life but I need more support than I'm currently getting.
@@pauljamessquibbs.3945 This dude wasn't homeless. I'm not currently homeless. In the UK and in Australia social security pays for most of it. In America yeah I get people don't have money for mental health. I live in low-income housing subsidised by the government but best believe that they ran a whole bunch of background checks on me before offering me the place.
Wtaf why was the actual murderer treated better than the uncle was thats disgusting like seriously wow.... and the fact that he's still walking the streets today.. how many other kids has he done this too?? Its sickening and scary
This guy claimed to "black out", described everything that happened in detail, and took forensic countermeasures after the fact, if that doesn't prove mens rea I don't know what does. I also cannot believe that a judge sees someone who has continuously struggled with psychosis and who psychologist say could be making the whole thing up in regards to Chloe's case and decide to even consider allowing this person back on the street. His mother should stay true to her word and never let her son out of her sight, not just let him walk around until he does something else, she should be the one to make sure his life is at least a constant reminder of what he did. Someone should find this monster and "black out" too.
He even asked them to not tell his parents. In a calm .. not shaking .. not shocked .. not hardly grasping what he did .. he knew what he did .. he did it .. and he found a perfect lie to find him not guilty.
The thing that gets me is how he was declared NOT GUILTY! So he confesses AND demonstrates numerous behaviours to COVER UP his dirty deed after the fact, so even though he was found psychotic at the time he murdered....he is still GUILTY of doing it 🤦♀️ Once he's considered rehabbed mentally, why would authorities label him as NO DANGER to the public?? Shouldn't he then be transferred to prison to serve out his sentence? And why doesn't taking the life of a defenceless child, in an especially aggravated manner, equate to LIFE incarcerated? How does the fact he had mental illness trade off the taking of a life?!
That poor uncle. That feeling, whatever you want call it: Intuition, a Sixth Sense, God...it was Chloe guiding him somehow. One of the most heartbreaking clips I've ever seen
The other uncle doesn't know that thermal imaging doesn't pick up lifeless bodies? The redheaded uncle seemed to be the only intuitive empath to arrive there. _Thank god he did._
I am absolutely sure Chloe led her beloved uncle to her. Especially if he asked her they do answer us if we listen. It's not something we hear out loud It's something we hear in our head and feel in our heart. It is a sad fact that family members are sometimes involved in these cases but it is also very sad that it can taint an innocent loving bond. He did the right thing representing himself as soon as a lawyer is involved you look guilty. He had nothing to hide and he proved it I have the greatest respect for him.
Absolutely agree. Though, the part about asking for a lawyer making you look guilty, while he did the right thing in the end because he had nothing to hide, it could have ended badly for him if the police anymore hyped up to close the case and make him their killer. That’s a reason why you would get a lawyer when you’re innocent. Thankfully these officers weren’t lazy and did the job they’re meant to do.
The sparkle in her eyes, the pain in her uncle’s eyes and voices, and the devastation to her mother who is a prisoner of her fears as a result of this horrific tragedy were all absolutely heart wrenching. Hopefully, the laws will change and the mental healthcare professionals will make it their mission to prevent another “Chloe”, as her best friend said in her interview… The killer’s mother does appear to be intelligent, sincere and empathetic towards Chloe’s mother. However, my view is that even if the mental health system did not take him in when they asked them to, I believe he was living alone and unsupervised + possibly un-medicated (?) at the time. I would sleep at the foot of my child’s bed and have some sort of security protocol in place if I was concerned that he could harm himself or others. I don’t envy her position, but I do have to wonder if she could have done anything more to prevent this from happening, like more vehemently insisting that the hospital at least put him through a thorough assessment, which he had previously declined. That should be mandatory! ♥️ to Chloe’s family and friends♥️💙
Chloe’s family are absolutely broken, I was so impressed with how brave and well spoken they all came across. Honest, genuine, salt of the earth people who are living in pain it is so clear to see. I hope to god they can find some peace in this life, I dont know if I could carry on tbh, I really do pray they can get through this together. I am sure chloe is with them all still, and to Karina her mum, you are never to blame, we all yell at our kids. Bless you all ❤️
It’s a sad day whenever the, “Mentally Ill drug addicts” have more protection and right, than an innocent child! If he was my son, I would have to pull an, ( Of mice and Men) moment and take responsibility for my monster and put him out of his misery, and protect the innocent that may cross his path!
Agreed. Why didnt the parents have the police pick him up if he was endangering society? I can guarantee you my parents would lol. Society is not responsible for broken people. We dont have the resources. Sad, but true.
Whilst I agree that in this case he was just using a mental health defence because he just wanted to get away with his vile,heinous and barbaric acts, however, there are some, very few, defendants who are mentally ill and deserve understanding and help, not locking up in jail, yes they need to be kept away from general society in a mental health institution but not jail, but those cases are few and far between, and if at any time they show that they are not mentally ill they should be transferred to jail.
Do you have children? When faced with that decision you have to be a strong person of moral... parents naturally/instinctively will give up their life to save their child
@@mercedeswestbrook4356 Even the instinct to protect our children has it's limitations (and yes I do have children) it is also against our instincts to hurt children so child molesters/murderers are defective, they have no place in society as they will always pose a threat to the children of society.
I’m very close to my uncle, the idea of him finding me like that… it would haunt me because I know it would haunt him, I’m so sorry for him and for poor Chloe 💔
I lost my daughter and never got justice, I died the day I buried her and had to live with knowing the person responsible was never held to account for her actions.... people cant imagine how it breaks your soul....
I'm lost for words. I'm so sorry that you are going through this heartbreaking, soul renching thing in your life. ❤ much love & strength to you & all affected ❤
This man got away with the murder of a sweet innocent child! The judicial system failed this family! He is free to commit another crime of an innocent child!
This is absolutely heartbreaking. I wish this family could have had 5 minutes alone with this freak. I can tell you that this news program is one of the best productions I've ever seen. In America we get 2 minutes of what's really happened and the rest is corporate sponsored propaganda.
Thanks so much for watching, and for commenting, Tracie. It is a truly shocking and devastating story. Our hearts go out to all of Chloe's family. Such an avoidable tragedy.
Tracie, your comment resonates with me. I often watch Australian productions as I find they are often more raw, or honest, as compared to the smoke, mirrors, white noise, and blatant static of American propaganda.
I watch more news type documentaries from Australia, Canada and England versus those produced in the US. Australia and Canada do a better job reporting on U.S. newsworthy stories than the U.S. does.
I also rarely watch U.S. television shows and movies, since getting access to streaming content 5 years ago when I got a Roku player.
Well we at least would have locked him up. Since we have the most incarcerated population
Here here
The “doctors” who gave this freak a free pass need to be in jail.
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The laws need to be changed- otherwise more and more offenders will be free (as this kind of crime is happening more and more often)
Yes!! The family should file a civil suit against him!!!
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Not guilty? Everyone involved in that decision should be ashamed of themselves. The way the police treated the uncle worse than her actual killer is beyond me...
I was thinking the same exact thing. Here is the innocent uncle being treated like the scum of the earth, and they all treat the real killer/child rapist with kid gloves. I will NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE WORLD IS TODAY…so much evil is tolerated, acceptable and excusable. Animals don’t treat their own kind this way with such disregard!
True
Agreed 😤🤬👿the uncle was treated far worse 😢😢😢
I find it really insulting the killers mother has a photo of Chloe in the house where the killer is living. Thats just horrible.
100% It's so creepy. It should be removed.
I find that discusting how dare she
And DISGUSTING!
And does HE never visit home? He was living there for awhile, the news crew saw him, so what does he think when he sees Chloe's photo?
Sickening!
That's sick. My God.
They need to have a re-trial again. This nasty person needs to be in Jail. Where the inmates can give him a peace of what that child felt.
Unfortunately that's the Australian justice system is like we need the death penalty back in Australia rip little one
@@kirstyenweary7059 wouldn't have been applied here
They treated the uncle like a criminal and went easy on the torturer/murderer. Guy who kills gets coddled. Guy who searched and found body gets stripped naked and degraded.
make it make sense hey
@@RawOlympia You need to educate yourself if that is what you believe. The US has one of the worst prison systems that abuses prisoners in the first world.
@@laughinghawk8522 lol if you think the us is one of the worst you clearly haven’t read what goes on in other countries prisons.
The law system its not giving justice to the victim.
Mom's last harsh response to her daughter before her daughter disappeared makes you think about the words exchanged between you and your loved ones may be the last. Puts things into perspective.
Sadly....so true! ...You will live with the guilt of your words forever!
I cringed when she said that her last words to Chloe were to leave her alone, because she was busy tidying up. No one shoud ever blame her for a totally normal response to a persistent child. I feel so sorry for the mother, those final words will haunt her the rest of her life. But the truth is, the killer would have found another opportunity to kidnap Chloe. There weren't enough loving words in the world to protect her from being a target.
When I heard that my heart broke and I wondered was Chloe going to say something to her Mother about going to play with the cats around the “neighborhood”? I’m sure mom would have told her no! I can’t stop thinking about this case! I am so hurt and angry and I didn’t know her. I can’t imagine what this family is.going through! 💔😡😢
i love that she admitted that. it must be really hard for her knowing thts the last thing she said to her but I imagine its even harder to actually admit it publicly. couragous of her bc it does make parents think twice on how they leave off w their children 🥺
Yea I know !!
As soon as he was deemed sane he should have been sent to real prision
My thoughts, precisely!
Right! Disgusted by this cases outcome.
He knew exactly what he did. He hid her body when the police came and later he took her out and dumped her like garbage.
If I am this disturbed, imagine how her mom and family must feel.
Yup, I agree. Here they release high-risk offenders all the time once their sentences are up. I think they should be put through some kind of program once their sentences are up and then extend their sentence for longer if they are still a high risk. Most high risk offenders commit crimes when out again, even if they have conditions. They're criminals for a reason, "conditions" don't stop them.
That makes no sense if he was deemed mentally incompetent when he murdered the poor child.
I can't believe they let him out, what is wrong with those doctors who let him go? Whoever let him out should be in jail.
Any further crimes he commit, the judge should be made accountable
Insanity means you wouldn’t have known it was wrong , the fact he lied and covered it up shows he knew what he did was wrong and illegal .
Exactly.
He seemed articulate in his interview. He had his "alibi" very well put together too. Hopefully he will get his just desserts one-way or another. 😣
Agreed 100%. Just the way he dumped her body like garbage, still undressed, proves he had no remorse. If he had a moment of insanity, and then later came to his senses he would've at least laid her to rest with some level of dignity. People go to jail for tax issues yet murderers go scot-free. What a world we live in🥺
It's horrific that the justice system in Australia didn't charge him for murder! It's utter bull sh*t!!! He KNEW what he was doing because he lied to cover it up!
True judgement is coming!
@@shellcshells2902 I feel like a jury should have tried him and then the review panel should have heard from the original jury members and victims before letting him out.
"He's gone through a lot of rehabilitation."
Someone please inform Tim's mother that p*dophiles can't be rehabilitated and the only effective treatment for her son is a woodchipper.
Well said.
Anna. Bravo 👏 👏 I agree 👍 💯
Agree totally
🤣🤣🤣 woodchipper indeed!!!
The child has no chance for
rehabilitation,why should he?
"He did hear her. That was Chloe telling her uncle to go get her."
My heart broke 😢💔
Yes her spirit never died she's eternal. Chloe did indeed communicate with her Uncle. Miracles do happen! x
She told him not to touch her neither.
Amen
Exactly! If he had ripped the bags off of her face, which would be anyone's first instinct (people that know and love her), he may have damaged the fingerprints....so, I do believe Chloe was guiding him.
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He packed her in a bag and took her to where she was found. And that alone doesn't tell the doctors he knew what he was doing? Totally unacceptable . He had a clear mind when he got rid of her lifeless body . He should be charged guilty for that... Lock him up.
In episodes of acute schizophrenic relapse, the cognitive ability needed to plan and carry out stuff like that isn't really there. They often have disorganised thinking and poor memory. I could be wrong about this. I'm still learning about Schizophrenia and cognition.
Yeah I am watching this in shock that they would release someone who kidnapped, raped and murdered a 5 yo and yes the act of covering up the crime is clear evidence that he was fully aware and knew he had done something very bad.
I think what kind of system would release that type a person back to even risk any kids he might be around..
Someone needed to tell that judge Pedophilia is NOT a mental illness.
Edit. I have said several times below that since my initial comment, after an interesting discussion here, I have learned that, whether i agree with it or not it IS actually regarded as a mental illness and I now accept that
I believe I'm right in my comments that mental illness does not automatically remove criminal responsibility though. "Criminal insanity" has to be proved and I believe it wasnt in this case. Besides, even if it had been proved in court, there was premeditation and the person presents a significant danger to the public. So, whichever way you look at it, I believe the judge was wrong.
It is. It's officially classified as a psychiatric disorder. ICD is F65.4, DSM-5 is 302.2
Officially recognized all the way.
@@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk Pedophilia is also a crime. it’s interesting to me that between the two, this judge decided to go with mental illness instead of rating it a crime severe enough to put the guy away for the rest of his life, and beyond. Seems to me this judge has a personal favoritism.
And RUclips is deleting my comments again. Great.
@@Catras_unfairly_gorgeous_smirk ummm sometimes you just have to refresh the window. I see your comments
it is, you should read up about the definition of mental illness and why p3edophilia is classified as one. It's interesting but it makes sense that it is.
My goodness. They treated the uncle worse than the piece of trash that destroyed little Chloe! Watching the uncle dry heave after finding poor Chloe is harrowing. I want to give him the biggest hug and thank him for being the hero Chloe needed.
Yeah me to
It's so cruel
Poor Chole uncle's Mother family and friends
They all need a hug and support
So distressing
@Michelle: 💯 with you on that. Watching the uncle overcome with emotions is gut wrenching. I wanted to reach out to give a hug too. And of course, also the mother. My heart breaks for her unimaginable pain 💔
It’s so bloody cruel. Yet at the same time, I’m glad it was someone who loved her that found her. 😭😭😭😭
A Hero indeed
I can understand. I thought same when it was him who found her .
How is a person who “doesn’t know that what they did was wrong” able to be so clear mentally that they can dispose of a body etc? The “doctors” who made that judgement should be hospitalized themselves. And stripped of their licenses.
That uncle "cried" for all of that video... not a tear shed...
@@orionxtc1119 tf are you talking about? If you couldn’t see tears, I suggest getting your eyes checked….you’re hitting peak ignorance with that comment.
@@orionxtc1119 If I could downvote this comment 100 times, I would.
I concur
@@orionxtc1119 Douche Bag of the highest calibre. If you couldn't feel his emotion then you must have a problem.
This is one of the most well put together documentaries I’ve ever watched.
Just a side note, I am glad the Aussie news programs do not censor cuss words like they do in the US and let everyone speak freely. It feels more raw and real. Anyone in this situation would cuss to release anger, frustration, and sadness, and these emotions should not be restricted in any way.
That’s what I thought too. When I first heard a curse word I was like “did they forget to bleep it?” This feels like such a more honest story than any of ours do. Ours always aim for dramatics instead of telling the real story.
Nz is the same
Not everyone cusses or likes hearing it.
They censor it on TV, etc. This is an uncensored version for RUclips.
Completely agree. So much for freedom of speech.
This is one of the most miscarriages of justice I've ever seen... He was totally aware when he was in denial about knowing who she was and having anything to do with her murder.... He knew enough about hiding the body and covering his crime to remembering every part of the murder...The judge should be ashamed of himself really ashamed!!
Gotta wonder who he is related too
And the judge sat with a smirk on his face 😡it's a shame for the family come out of his mouth shocking they should tell the family where he is living let them do what they need to and let them have justice for little chloe
you can see clearly upon his face he doesn't give a single f. u guys saw n heard what he said? stone cold. this is epic failure and tragedy.. dear God
That little girls like meant nothing I mean this guy admitted doing it I mean he needs to do time insane or not insane it's just ridiculous
The judge should be stripped off his powers I reckon.. Family and judge will not rest knowing they have Chloe's blood in their hands...
i hope the family send the judge a card every year with a photo of chloe smiling with the words that say " thanks judge for letting my killer go free to possibly murder again "
he would probably effing smile ... like he did through his whole interview
@@liarliar7491 I saw a nervous man who knew he'd made a mistake. The laws must be changed.
Truly crazy persons do not understand what they have done is wrong, so they do not lie about their crimes, nor do they bury or hide the bodies...
Only those with an awareness of the law would try to hide their crimes from fear of punishment- which also proves guilt
@RUclips breaks The 1st amendment" that which we do in secret is hidden in shame, with the foreknowledge of guilt " malcom X
Maybe we should all send him one, that poor family, it's heartbreaking.
How can he be free? That judge was shocking!!! They should have taken his license away loooong time ago! What a terrible tragedy and my heart goes out to her family 😢
@tammyb7493 umm...u do know there's no such a thing as a judge's "license", right? Like u don't *actually* think that's a thing, do u? 😂😂😂😂oh my god🤦🏽♀️
@@evilangel2918 They mean he should be sacked.....
Unbelievable miscarriage of justice. Even judges are criminals . He confessed what more did they want?
@@evilangel2918 Judges have to be licensed to practice law the same way that attorneys do. You’re trying to make them seem dumb but you actually sound very dumb. There definitely is a such thing as a law license. I have one. I’m a licensed attorney.
Did that judge just say “ looking at the victims point of view it would’ve been a horrible waste”? 🤬. Would you have that same attitude if it was your daughter or grandchild?
I thought the exact same thing when he said that. I know the Judge has seen a lot while he resided but he seemed a bit detached to me
I did a double take when I heard that too! I mean from everybody's point of view it should be a terrible waste. But maybe he just is not good with words....
I hate that judge. Something abnormal in him .. I just don't like the vibes he gives. Also, what judge or psychiatrists think .. this is acceptable as psychosis .. he knew what he did ..
And he just shrugged his shoulders like oh well!
🤬There IS a difference between being professional and being a cold hearted harda**.
As a nurse l can tell you there is no way she can guarantee that anyone is going to be safe around this man. One episode of psychosis is all it will take for him to murder her or another child. He should never have been let out. The fact that he knew what he did to Chloe let's me know that he wasn't in a state of psychosis either. He was mentally competent at the time.
Bingo
Absolutely, spot on
Yessss he knew exactly what he was doing and he knew right from wrong. That is why there is no way he was suffering psychosis.
He not only knew what he was doing was wrong, he disposed of her body where they had already searched, so he knew what he did was wrong, he hid his crime in a knowledgeable way. That flies sin the face of common sense. They should let his neighbors know what he is and what he has done!
I'm not a nurse, I don't need to be to know that this is disgraceful, he knew what he did & should not be free- ever!!!
Can’t believe they really thought the uncle had done it. Her little brother would have recognized him if he was the one who took Chloe! And wouldn’t have called him ‘the man with the yellow hair”.
@6 Haunted Days have a little respect when commenting on someone's comment section....
@@Dayvakiin lmao ok comment police.
It made sense. Police can’t go on “something just told me to look there” as gospel. They know to look at family first and one who miraculously finds the little girl is going to be their first suspect. They were doing their job.
Exactly… why didn’t they have him look at a line up ???
And his hair is orange
And people wonder why some people take Justice in their own hands. That poor baby and her family breaks my heart 😭💔🙏🏻
Australia’s legal system screwed up with this one.
...and thousands more..😖
@@toekafrank6998 The statistics don’t support your statement if you are referring to murder. I looked NSW up online as the law varies across the states and territories. The ABS publishes all crime statistics and the sentences. The use of this defense has been reviewed and the changes are published online.
I read this all time about Australia, so I looked up that one state.
@@tessforbes8687 This was a lot more than murder….that monster violated that little girl in the worst way possible.
@@isitoveryet9525 My comment was about what happened to Chloe, just a baby, nor him.
Yet again
His mother thinking he’s rehabilitated and not a threat is so unreal to me.
Only a mother could think that
A mother who created this horrid mentality in the first place.
I would call 'commanding voices' something from demons. Medication doesn't help much againts those damned blighters.
She must be toxic and an enabler.
@Monica-vi7xj only a childish selfish mother could think that. I would care enough about my son, that I wouldn't want him to have to go have the darkness of ever hurting another human being much less a child again, by being as real and honest about his sickness, whatever that looks like. Otherwise, he may never get the help he needs to actually change and grow as a man. He may always just be a sick deluded monster. Even if he gets that help through lofe in prison, if that's the best option for my son to be the best he can, that's the decisions that are made out of real love.
I’m Australian and he certainly seemed ‘sane’ in his initial interview. He’s calm and completely literate . I’m sick to death of hearing ‘mental issues’ or ‘ I had a bad childhood’. So did my dad and he was the gentlest and loveliest of men! It is not an excuse for anything, it’s just an excuse for bad behaviour , bad manners and , in his case, murder. Why on earth should he be free, that family are still living a nightmare and that poor uncle. How degrading when your just family. Mind you, police see all kinds of evil under the sun. Rest In Peace little girl and blessings to all the family 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Yes I’m sick of hearing those EXCUSES too.!!!! I’ll bet at least half the people in prison tried to use that excuse.!!!! It’s ridiculous. I think the same about Meghan Markle about HER so called “issues”.!! It’s a trend now to say this..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agree,
Hallelujah to that!! You hit the nail right on the head with that one bless you
So what causes people to behave badly?
I had a bad childhood. I have mental health issues. But I have never hurt anyone, it’s just not an excuse. There is having mental health issues, and then there is true insanity- not knowing right from wrong.
If he did it and admitted it then he is guilty - mental or not he should be punished accordingly! Cases like this are infuriating, I can’t begin to imagine how the family feel
The Judge who let him out need to be punished same as him if ever he commits a crime again.
It wasn’t the Judge’s fault. They apply the law. It is beginning to look like the mental health services are not doing their job. I am so sorry for Chloe and her family. Have they claimed damages against the media who released him? The law on mental health defences need urgently reviewed.
Absolutely I feel the same way!💯💯👍
That's an idiotic thing to say.
Agreed…
They are all at fault..That guy is crazy like a fox. Snowed all of them call me with his I don’t remember story yet he remembered everything in detail
Chloe was showing her uncle Duane where she was. I truly believe that. It's sad he had to go through quite a lot to prove he was innocent.
People underestimate intuition and gut feelings. If it's not 'provable' its suspicious. We've been taught NOT to trust our gut or intuition. Bravo to him.
Yeah but sometimes it is the child's own family or someone close to them that is at fault so police should investigate.
@@northernfox6420 Yes, grossly underestimate our intuition. Weare discouraged from heeding it. I say ALWAYS listen to your intuition (gut). Mark.
He has no leg monitor, completely free. Can be around the children of the community he lives in.
What’s wrong in Australia? The places he lives have no clue what he’s done???!
I always have to prepare myself before watching Australian crime shows. It’s always going to be a bullshit sentence.
It happens everywhere unfortunstely not just in Australia
Australia seems to be pretty weak as far as sentencing.
@@Strawn149 me too but they somehow still seem to stun me. These are your children !! If he can't control himself he will do it again ! There is NO CURE for pedophilia. He did everything he could not to get caught. Including murder her. What makes them believe he won't do it again ? Nothing.
@@ReeseMalott1976I disagree. I watch a lot of crime shows and they are consistently weak on sentencing there . If this were the US he would likely get death depending which state it is in . If not death, the rest or nearly the rest of his life in prison. Thank God. Every once in awhile something goes wrong but usually that's what happens.
The fact of how he got rid of the body he knew what he did was wrong and the judge allows this murderer to walk the streets is just mind boggling
Something tells me the uncle will break and sort this monster out. There’s only so much a family can take. This is so sad. Rest in Peace Chloe ❤️❤️
POWER TO THE UNCLE, TO MAKE THIS MONSTER SUFFER
@@katiekarakondis3348 And I hope he will get away with putting this monster down 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@kinglissa2953 He should just tell the authorities he "hears voices" he'll get off for sure 🙄
@@TheStar798 hahaha LMAO that must be the new get outta jail free card!
@@stephanieann8115 Right?? 😂
HOW IS IT THAT JUDGES HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY?!?!? This made me literally sick to my stomach seeing the judge and it enraged me he didn’t get real justice for this little girl. I know someone very close to me with a rather severe case of schizophrenia and this POS isn’t exhibiting any of the same signs. I couldn’t even imagine allowing him to walk free if that was my child. Screw that judge and the pos that did this to that sweet innocent girl.
Very sad indeed !
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Always thought it was the judges final decision after looking at all the evidence. He looked ashamed of himself
You could tell he didn’t give a sh&t. And that’s BS that he has to go with the submissions. They should have also named and shamed those two POS psychiatrists
@@shadowshow701 agree 100%
As someone with mental illness, and similar issues to this man, the way he remembers everything is an indication to me that he didn't "Black out".
Exactly.
They’re different types of mental illness! I suffer from depression and I’m quite sure it’s very different from people who have been diagnosed insane!
Just like tumours, some of which are benign and some are malignant. But, according to you, doctors should be prescribing exactly the same meds for every person suffering from mental illness!
Oh, dear!
@@E-Kat I never said anything about medicine. The entire premise of "Blacking out" is that you do something incredibly strange or unlike your typical behavior.. You don't remember it in full detail, if any of it at all.
@@E-Kat Also "Insane" isn't a diagnosis, and hasn't been for a long time in the United States. it's a legal term. You get diagnosed with a specific disorder not insanity. Like schizophrenia, schizoeffectice disorder, depression, BPD etc
Right, he remembered placing two bags over her face. How did he remember this?
This is pathetically and disgusting , why is that judge have a smirk on his face. This family was definitely denied justice
He will face Thee Judge Father God one day...all those hurting kids...God doesnt take that lightly...
Chloe`s brother said right in the beginning that "the man with the yellow hair" took her - why did police not follow that lead?
I thought the same,it didn’t say whether they spoke to the little brother,but it sounds like he was the last person to see her.
I wonder if she wanted to tell her mum about the creepy guy. We’ll never know will we. Poor family, poor, uncle 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
This is sooo sad. Poor mother and family. That judge should have given him lifesentence. And yes why didn't they ask the little brother, he said the man with the yellow hair...so the brother did see something. And that police putting that poor loving uncle that found her. My heart goes out to him.
The brother would have 100% known his (red haired) uncle was the one that took her but he never said that...yet they persisted!
@@kt1pl2 so right! So this is also a story of how poorly trained police were back then - I just wonder when was "back then"...
Why would he lie to the police and dispose of the childs body if he didnt know what he was doing?
"That which we do in secret, is hidden in shame, with the foreknowledge of guilt " MALCOM X
@@c.a.greene8395 No truer words have been spoken 🙏🏼
Bingo
@@c.a.greene8395 true that!!
EXACTLY 😩
The fact that this guy had the presence of mind to hide until the coast was clear before he carried Chloe’s battered body, hidden from view, to be discarded, is proof enough for me to know that he was thinking clearly.
Hi there, how are you doing??
It was premeditated murder. He new EXACLY what he was doing. And it is walking free as a bird . What is wrong with the Legal system.
@@gayletodd2236 o errado foi ele não ser negro se fosse um negro estaria preso
But as long as her takes his COVID jabs, he can remain out of jail. We must reserve the prisons for the COVID jab non-compliant. Tim's mother sounds like she has no conscience.
@@finallythere100 wtf are you talking about?
He was aware enough to dispose of poor dear little Chloe; aware enough to maintain a facade with the police and aware enough to request a lawyer. Terrible. Wishing peace and healing to the family.
cannot believe this guy is out. 100% sympathy with the family.
Outrageous!
He should have gotten life without parole.
If it was my family, we would make sure justice was served. No matter what the consequences.
Isnt it disgusting! Where is the justice in this world. It makes me sick.
Idiot he will do it agian the killing!!!
That baby was calling the uncle she loved so much to come and get her. No doubt in my mind. I'm glad the police didn't continue to falsely accuse him. My heart breaks for him for not only losing her but finding her too. He shouldn't have had to see her like that but she knew who to call to. She knew who would hear her and listen. She was right.
That just breaks my heart. They obviously had a really close relationship. That monster took it all away😢. And he doesn’t even get punished😢. You matter to us Chloe! We love you and miss you terribly. I hope you are enjoying dancing with the angels RIP sweetheart 🙏🏼💙😇
@JJ JelyBean he ABUSED your son but is yet a gentle giant?
Are you ducking kidding me?????
Absolutely heartbreaking. I had a man grab my daughter at a park when she was 6 years old she screamed and I never ran so fast in my life. I kept beating on that guy until the cops got there, I can't explain the fear and panic running through your body and mind. Horrifying
Good mother 👩👧❤
Well what happened to the guy?! Was he arrested?! Lord, I can't even imagine!!
Ime glad you got your baby back.
Omg!! What happened???
Liverpool is to lienant
I have just stumbled across this website and Chloe's story is the second one I watched. It is so heartbreaking to see what happened to that young child and know that he is free. My heart aches for your loss. May God provide you comfort and peace.
1:01:00 that uncle makes some strong arguments... The pain and the longing in his eyes shatters my heart
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The police seemed disappointed when they realised that the uncle was innocent, as they believed they had an open and shut case. Never once did they apologise to the uncle.
I agree with you but the unfortunate part about this situation is there were several coincidences and in just about any case involving a child’s murder, it’s the family that gets questioned first. Honestly, when I heard his story, the first thing I did was suspect him. He opened himself up for serious interrogation when he told the police he found her. The detectives were just doing their job and they don’t really owe anyone an apology for doing their job.
Exactly.. it’s always the family first, and she wasn’t there the night before. They had to check ...
How do you know that the Police never apologised to the uncle?
All should lose their jobs. He should of sued them.
Maybe not in this documentary but we don't know what really happened.
His photo should be on every school gate/door, milk and juice bottles, newsagents windows you name it, may every community he tries to hide in be aware of how he looks and what he has done!!!
Better still use a Branding iron on their face like they do to cattle , if the so called law and so called mental health professionals insists that these types of monsters go free to roam
Should have like u say face tattooed so impossible to cover
@@solcutta3661 his forehead should say "Monster: keep away from women, children, and animals".
He, and the thousands and thousands and thousands exactly like him. Like papering the world over every surface.
What they put her Uncle through is exactly why we don't get involved in searches. When my husband & I were young like that our nieces & nephews pictures were the only photos in our wallets too. We never even had pictures of our friends in our wallets, to us THAT would've been weird.
The fact that the police frequently accuse the person who finds the body keeps many people from helping look. You can't trust police. They're more quick the pretend they have evidence or fabricate evidence than they ever are of saying "We were wrong"
My brother in law is a lawyer married to a DA & they drill it into all the kids in the family to NEVER answer their questions without an attorney, never go in that room without an attny, until you have an attny shut up. If they break the law & keep asking you questions answer with (I have already requested an attny. You can't question me without an attny)
A cop can & will always testify against you but never for you.
And a cop can LEGALLY LIE to you
I hate it when they ask victims if they could ever forgive! That should never even be a consideration.
Toxic forgiveness is how you gaslight yourself.
Sorry, homie, but the human mind is more complex than single solutions for everyone like that. Some people can and need to forgive, some people need to hold onto the anger to stay sane in a mad world. It's all just coping with crazy stuff like this. Also don't abuse pop-psych words like that. :P
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Yes! They say forgiveness is for YOUR inner peace. Yet, I can't attack or preach to someone for not forgiving someone who hurt them or a loved one. You can heal without forgiving, imo.
Forgiveness is overated. Emphasised by people who NEED victims to forgive, so THEY can get over it. !!
FULL THROTTLE NO REGETS BABY lolol
“We were so close to him”, “I don’t understand to this day why they didn’t just let us get him a little bit”. ❤️❤️❤️
Yes, that part!
They should have let them rough him up, even if it was just a little.
The truth of that for her when she says it had me signed up
If only they could have let you at least connect on hit.
I wouldve got myself admitted into the same hospital as him or found a way to get to him. I'd still be plotting till this day to make his life miserable. He doesn't deserve to be able to move on and forget about that poor little girl....R.I.P Chloe
IMO Every single EVIL person
The fact that the uncle was suspected and he fully complied to anything and everything being stripped naked and they never did any of that to Timothy. And the fact he didn't want his parents to know. WHAT about Chloes parents? I understand our mental Healthcare sucks but it doesn't mean we let everyone who hears voices to get away with murder
How is he free?? This is absolutely crazy! And the family wasn’t told! Holy hell. It’s obvious from his confession he knew what he was doing.
This man knew exactly what he was doing, the fact that he felt the need to get rid of her body after the fact shows that there is no mental illness involved. If he suffered from from mental illness he would not have worried about getting rid of evidence
I agree he should be locked up but disagree that he was sane.
Exactly, he even told the police he wasn't hearing voices at that time. He should have been locked up for the rest of his life. This would have given Chloe's family some justice, and the community would be protected.
If I ever spot him walking around I will take the law into my own hands "and I will say oh the devil told me to do it"it should work out just fine"
Tell them I made you do it with my mind-controle powers.
Just tell them you blacked out. Or that biker gangs made you do it
This is my real name...I heard that voice too...it told me the same thing at the same time...I'll be a witness!
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Thats right,use that same energy,then when they say you wrong, remind them of him.
I cannot stand it. I cannot accept he is just free. I am repulsed.
Hi there, how are you doing??
That’s how I feel. This is about as deranged as it gets…..
He lies everyting during the first interview, apart from that he suffered from his environment. That settles the situation far enough, I think. Disgusting.
A voice is telling me to move to Australia
And the fact his family still support him.
The judge is a POS for giving the monster a free pass to not be punished for his heinous crime. I would not depend on that court for any kind of justice for anything. I'm so over it with criminal sympathizers.
The judge is sick also
If I was Chloe's mum I would make it my life's mission to let everyone in Australia know what Timothy looks like and where he lives. I would hand out flyers, have a Facebook page, set up a go fund me if people want to help fund my efforts. I would take civil action and sue him for whatever I could and 100% make sure he could never make money off selling his story. I hope Karina isn't blaming herself for what happened and it's so good to see how much family support she has. Her family is incredible and Karina and Chloe are lucky to have them still fighting for them both.
@@dianabrown8176 EXACTLY!!
@@dianabrown8176 Agreed!!!
I'd be in prison for giving out justice.
She did. We all know how he looks and where he often is. How the house of his mother looks like. Who is his father, his mom. We know it. I bet she had no interesst for an TV interview, buts he did it for her daughter exactly for that reason.
@@dianabrown8176 likewise .. I’d hire a hit man and instruct him to make sure that cretin was tortured for a few hours before being asphyxiated with plastic bags!!
This is crazy, how can these professionals sleep at night for not putting him in jail? He could still get treatment and medication. He shouldn't be free.
There are times when so called justice is useless. As if this kid's life meant absolutely nothing. Australia, come on. The uncle was treated more like a criminal than the killer.
"That which we do in secret, is hidden in shame, with the foreknowledge of guilt. " Malcom x
he knew exactly what he was doing.
Truly crazy people do not understand what they have done is wrong, so they do not try to cover it up, nor do they lie about it...his very actions prove his guilt.
In America he wouldn’t have gotten off, not by a mile
@@c.a.greene8395 , Malcolm X is a part of the problem instead of part of the solution. Also, talk is cheap and worthless, but actions are priceless and invaluable.
Any child molester should be castrated inhuman? And what do you called what he did
@@ellieb.4468 Exactly right.He would have gotten life and the insanity plea would have never worked here in the USA
The uncles connection with chloe was powerful and ENERGY is the answer. I believe their bond helped him find Chloe.
I think Chloe's spirit led her uncle to her body, someone she trusted and loved. Rest in peace little one 🙏🏼🌼💜
I think so too.
Yup. Her only chance to seek out the help from someone she knew would save her. Rest in paradise little angel. Bless the uncle as well....when he was gagging....poor man. I hope he sees this...insert expletives...in a dark alley and then says he heard voices telling him to do it.
I agree. I felt it in my heart from the beginning that there was no way her uncle did that to her.
@@Weightingtablesafter yeah, what do you believe in? Good cosmetic surgery?
@@Weightingtablesafter I often think that: comforting. But comforting doesn't necessarily equal true. Frankly, I don't even know what words like 'spirit' and 'soul' mean. They're just meaningless woo to me.
I am in shock. Firstly, because I can't believe I haven't heard of this story before and secondly because I grew up in that caravan park in the late 60s and early 70s. Undoubtedly there was a criminal element in the park and in the area but what I remember most is the many loving (but poor) families just trying to get by. For the most part it was a fun, free place to live and I have lots of lovely memories. My friends and I played in the river behind the park, we played in the pine grove between the park and the bridge, we wandered around alone and unsupervised and never came to harm. I know the world was a different place 50 years ago but children should still be able to play and be safe. This sort of crime against an innocent child should not happen and should not go unpunished. I am heartbroken for the family.
I grew up in England in the 80s and 90s and was out all day with my mates and never went home until tea time. Like you we were unsupervised and have some of my best memories from that time. It's a shame kids can't have that same freedom and experience's now. Love from Portsmouth 👋
What makes me physically ill is thinking of the situation, this horrible evil thing happening just a few doors down to your own child.ugh I just can't even imagine that poor mother having those thoughts running through her mind constantly..
it's so sad . if my son had done such a thing to a little girl I would never in my life have contact with him again .such a monster
I agree with that
100% me too
I agree. I do understand the mother’s need to think that he can be managed, because it must be horrible to know your child is a monster, but all she’s doing is enabling him.
And if you knew he was very disturbed, had spent years, devoting your life to trying to get him help BEFORE something this tragic happened, how would you feel then? How would you feel about the system of mental heath facilities, and hospitals who wouldn't help him, and refused to treat him, and keep him safe in a facility? BEFORE he could hurt himself or anyone else?
the injustice is crazy, cases like these make u lose all faith in the system, truly despicable and shameful 😤😤😤😤🤬
He did it regardless of his mental state, he is GUILTY. And he knew it was wrong as he didn’t want to look at the video. That judge got this wrong.
Go look up what Freemasons are! A lot of cops a lot of Judges a lot of doctors a lot of people in high places are Freemasons once you find out what this government is really about and how evil and disgusting they are you'll understand why monsters like this are set free they think nothing's wrong with this kind of evil!
Daisy that's exactly what the problem is. Spot on.
@@lacymacdougall9660 Thank you Lacy. I'm glad to see there's more people that have their eyes open to what's really going on out in this world
My daughter, 13 years old, is almost never interested in documentaries. She wanted to do my nails today and as we scrolled through RUclips for something to keep us occupied, this documentary caught my eye. My daughter wasn't interested in the beginning but after watching it, I could see how much it moved her. I am grateful to Chloe's family for sharing this tragic part of their lives, so others, like my daughter, are aware that there are evil people in this world and not to trust anyone she doesn't know. She is absolutely disgusted with the murderer and feels terrible for Chloe and hurting her family.
Probably not appropriate for your 13 year old. Life is hard enough without dragging her into the mud of child murders.
@@Candlewick14 While I may try to appreciate your concern for my daughter, I can't help but think "you mind your child's business and I'll mind mine". Besides, I'd much rather her be aware that such evil people do exist than a victim of one.
@@brandymorano9900 well yeah. That's how abuse flourishes. Have a good day.
I cannot believe what I am reading here. That's how abuse flourishes?
@@Candlewick14 What..? I hope you're not saying showing a documentary to a 13 yo is abuse... All parents have different limits as to what they allow their children to watch, but you have no place telling Brandy how she should parent. Most 13 year olds are also mature enough to watch these types of docs with parental guidance. They are quite aware of what's happening in the world, no way to shield them that much without stripping them of common sense. Sometimes I wonder if people have forgotten all about being 13...
I do believe that monster lured Chloe away by telling her he had new kittens at his place and would she like to play with them. I believe this crime was 100% premeditated and his defense was 100% contrived. So fvck that bullsh*t about parallel realities or whatever that man gave as an explanation why Kosowicz did what he did.
I hope wherever Kosowicz goes for the rest of his life that he'll be hounded by people who want him to know that they know he's guilty as hell.
I agree, he knew what he was doing.
Sad thing is that he is going to go into another neighbourhood where he and his misdeeds are unknown and lure another child to his/her death and everyone, after the fact, will be wailing about how it could have been avoided had they known. When the correct thing would have been to remove the threat and deal with it/him.
That mom will be heartbroken everytime she thinks of the last thing she said to her daughter. Please use kind words when speaking to your loved one's.
I’ve watched way too many crime shows and documentaries, and I’ve never been as moved as I was as I watched Chloe’s uncles-all big, strong men-fight to control their tears as they describe their obvious love for beautiful Chloe and their fury over how her killer could be so cold & calculated and yet be found not guilty. Those men adored that precious little girl, and their pain & her mother’s anguish is palpable, even 14 years later. This was a travesty of justice, and Chloe deserved far better from the criminal justice system!
Omg same. I started to cry with the uncles and mother. Especially how the mother was torturing herself, thinking about if she cried out for her. If she was scared... and etc 😭
Beautifully written. I agree.
My heart goes out to Chloe's mother and her totsl devastation. Herself becoming house bound and living like a prisoner herself while he is free to roam the world with his mummy....
Praying healing to her deep wounds and troubled soul, and her family. 🕊💗🌟
Guilty but not responsible is as bad as sayin not guilty. If he's not responsible, then he's got demons.
If he were ny son, i wouldnt dream of covering his damned butt for his despicale crimes. Him living near a school is criminal offence, and certainly strange when he doesn't like children 😡
The uncle finding her was amazing. Also thank god he listened to what ever told him not to go near her lil body or touch it. He would have been put to jail if he had
Her other uncle seeing the CCTV footage of the vermin leaving with that bag. Knowing her little, broken body is in that bag.. I cried it's just awful
An absolute disgrace that he’s not serving life in prison.
Preferably underground
They don't really give people life in the UK either......which is annoying. They set the minimum such as 20-30 years. I've spent nearly 40 years battling my mental health so I know people who actually physically harmed someone else won't change easily in 20-30 years. Once you've done it before it's easier to do it again and again.
@@marleyhill34 I’m from the uk so I know but sexually assaulting and then murdering a child is absolutely abhorrent. I’d say we atleast give child killers decent sentences
@@Lemonsponges Sad thing Broadmoor only has 284 beds and there are way more dangerous crazy people out there than that. At least Ian Huntley got 40 years minimum but that's 20 years per child. The way he was on TV I wouldn't let him out in 20 years. He had life but then they changed it to 40 years minimum. Maxine Carr is out living a life of Larry. so frustrating! Literally spending millions protecting her and giving her a new identity. The UK is a small place she'd best leave...but I doubt she can based on parole.
@@marleyhill34 usually only half the sentence is served in the UK.
I feel like the mom of Timothy is doing her Best to make people feel like they can be comfortable with her son out but the bottom line is she needs to realize that she can’t control her son. And she needs to understand why people feel the way they do about her son
Crazy how police can turn such an innocent thing as having ur nieces picture in ur wallet into something menacing
To police everybody is suspicious... They have a sick and jaded attitude.
Its not sick and jaded that they think this way. More than 80% of murders are done by someone close and usually family. His position was very suspicious and they have follow that. Its sick and jaded that so many will take out their family for many reasons.
I can actually understand why he was the nr 1 suspect at the beginning . If a was an investigator I would be suspicious towards him at the begging too. Heartbreaking all around
@@wakeandbakewithmaryjane1767 Yep! You’re right.
They has tunnel vision and didn’t care to look for the actual killer. Dumb asses
And they released it and it now roams free?! Wtf...
Seems like a waste of all the police efforts..and he’s still free...
There should be a secondary set of legislation of law that keeps monsters like this locked in at least a institution of some kind.
A child has died ..he can do it again,some time in the future..it’s not fair on society to where ever he moves ,that unknowingly puts another’s child life at risk..simply cos they don’t know he lives nearby..perish the thought.
Horrible 😱 I. All countries. The worse the crime, the lighter the sentence. Little wonder people take matters into their own hands. Friggin. sickening.
@@MariaLopez-hc2nm , if they are unrepentant of their evil, yes, but otherwise, you all are ironically just as homicidal as those that you condemn in your lives.
@@paxhumana2015 very easy for you to say that. I wonder if you would feel the same if it was your child and the monster was repentant . Would you just forgive?
LOVE 💕 LOVE how you described “IT”
Great description !
It roams free now, Australians please fix what the justice system couldn't
Agreed
Fully agree with you.
agree
Communities should be allowed to deal with crimes their own way
*Agreed 💯%!!! Put it down for the sake of society!!*
Why is His Psychologist and Psychiatrist and Hospital NOT held accountable?????
The number of times the killer himself and his family tried to get him admitted for his mental problems is unforgivable. It can be difficult to have someone admitted against their will, but he was asking to be. Repeatedly. That is an absolute failure of the system and shameful.
Too true. My friend has struggled to get help for her adult child with similar problems.
Yes and then the irony is that it costs much more in the end in terms of human suffering as in Chloe's case and in keeping him in an institution for years after what he has done. Complete lack of care.....maybe they should be changed with that.
There is no way in Australia to have someone scheduled against their will if they aren't showing signs of suicidal ideations. Our laws don't permit families to institutionalise their family members, even children, adults or not.
It's insane, so many crimes could be prevented.
Finally, Someone speaking with their brain instead of JUST heart.... They sure did wait until the end to tell us that the killer HIMSELF ( and his family ) sought help MULTIPLE times But pretty much were denied by lazy INCOMPETENT so called professional losers. Chloe's parents should be suing them even just to expose them, to get them fired, and to fix the system. Blaming the killer's Mother is dumb.....it wasn't easy for her to get in front of the camera knowing what her son did....... Jenn Righter is 100 percent correct.
It is.
Makes me question how they're taking care of him now or taking care of two mothers and two fathers who are dealing with such a tragedy, even if in different ways.
I’m absolutely gobsmacked watching this. That little girl and her family were failed by everyone. That monster should be locked up. How chloes mum is still standing is beyond me. Sending my love to all of the family x
This is the most accurate use of the word "gobsmacked". Indeed gobsmacked. Tge fact in the end he couldn't even *act* remorseful. What rehabilitation will help such a fella?? He needs to be held in a mental institution for the rest of his life
@@Maya-Hayden very much so. No remorse
Me and my family still can't have our justice
Totally agree. I always have grave reservations, as some of these mental health assessors get it wrong. Besides how do they not know if he will start to hear voices again ? Plus blaming drugs, etc is a cop out too.
The Australian people should be totally outraged and demand changes, to their system. Do they have a on line "change" petition, to force changes from their law makers and others, etc. The family need someone to help them with this as they are too broken down with grief. Awful & devastating !!
@@michelemartin3642 i completely agree with you
I just cannot fathom how someone could do that to an innocent child or anyone for that matter! He may be schizophrenic but he’s also a psychopath and a necrophiliac.. See the huge pentagram tattoo? Obviously into Satanism.. probably part of some sick ritual..
He said he didn’t know what he was doing, but remembers everything he did, and sexually abusing a child is not something you can do because you hear voices. He clearly new he had done something wrong because he covered it up.
Sadly there are pedephiles in many powerful positions, including the justice system, the verdict makes you wonder?
And he asked the cops not to tell his parents!
I've also read somewhere that "hearing voices " is a cop out , an act , something you see on a movie , a person who is truly mentally ill will hear A voice not many at once
@@sarahlong5648 It's uncommon to have voice hallucinations at all, and for those who do, way more common with one voice than more. But there are also cases with multiple voices.
You don't cover up something you didn't know was wrong...
I have nothing but respect for every family member and friend who saw this monster and instinctively tried to get to him. I thankfully do not know, but I can only assume that I wouldn't react very similarly. I hope none of these loving family members walked away with any charges that day.
I feel like the judge and the Liverpool hospital has a lot to answer for.
@@lmnopxyz5796 who says user names for RUclips have to be factual or make sense, Lmnop XYZ?
Strange, did voices tell him to wait till 2 AM to get rid of the body?
Exactly! He was still very aware of his actions and that they were wrong. He tried to cover it up, he waited to do so, and he attempted to lie until he couldn’t! Then and only then did these “command voices” show up!
@@coffeecrimegal5968 I wish I could remember the case, but there was someone here in the US that tried to use the same defense, and was found guilty because he had the presence of mind to hide the crime. Should be the way it works. That command voices crock makes me sick inside.
No, just before 1 am
The police grilled the uncle more than the killer..
Because they knew they screwed up letting him out into the community unsupervised!! If I had my way, every diagnosed crazy would have two mandatory weekly checks with the police and a psychologist. People go to AA meetings every day to beat/control their addiction but people with mental health have nothing like that. I have BPD and I haven't seen a psychiatrist in months! No one knows If I'm flushing my meds down the toilet. They can run a quick blood test to see if they are in your system. The police the authorities they all know who is crazy, who is on drugs and who is the local crook. The thing is that they are underfunded and understaffed to do the actual safety checks to reduce the harm caused by dysfunctional people in society. So when the judge asks for evidence for keeping crazies locked up, they haven't compiled the evidence correctly or not at all. I mean I'm grateful for not being locked up in a sanitorium for the rest of my life but I need more support than I'm currently getting.
@@marleyhill34!
@@marleyhill34 Money issues. Costs money to do these things. Most homeless people have mental health issues.
@@pauljamessquibbs.3945 This dude wasn't homeless. I'm not currently homeless. In the UK and in Australia social security pays for most of it. In America yeah I get people don't have money for mental health. I live in low-income housing subsidised by the government but best believe that they ran a whole bunch of background checks on me before offering me the place.
@@marleyhill34 I meant for the 2 mandatory weekly checks with police and psychologists you mentioned. No money for that business.
Wtaf why was the actual murderer treated better than the uncle was thats disgusting like seriously wow.... and the fact that he's still walking the streets today.. how many other kids has he done this too?? Its sickening and scary
This is a prime example of how people get away with murder. My heart goes out to the family
This guy claimed to "black out", described everything that happened in detail, and took forensic countermeasures after the fact, if that doesn't prove mens rea I don't know what does. I also cannot believe that a judge sees someone who has continuously struggled with psychosis and who psychologist say could be making the whole thing up in regards to Chloe's case and decide to even consider allowing this person back on the street. His mother should stay true to her word and never let her son out of her sight, not just let him walk around until he does something else, she should be the one to make sure his life is at least a constant reminder of what he did. Someone should find this monster and "black out" too.
He even asked them to not tell his parents. In a calm .. not shaking .. not shocked .. not hardly grasping what he did .. he knew what he did .. he did it .. and he found a perfect lie to find him not guilty.
Mentally ill or not they should be sentenced to death. So we can be rid of all mentally ill killers .
The 2 psychs who assest that monster should be bared from practice and jailed as well
Or left in a room with him the next time he goes off his meds
*assessed and * barred
He should go live with them.
The thing that gets me is how he was declared NOT GUILTY!
So he confesses AND demonstrates numerous behaviours to COVER UP his dirty deed after the fact, so even though he was found psychotic at the time he murdered....he is still GUILTY of doing it 🤦♀️
Once he's considered rehabbed mentally, why would authorities label him as NO DANGER to the public??
Shouldn't he then be transferred to prison to serve out his sentence?
And why doesn't taking the life of a defenceless child, in an especially aggravated manner, equate to LIFE incarcerated? How does the fact he had mental illness trade off the taking of a life?!
Complete miscarriage of justice 😭
Just tell Chloe’s uncles and father where he is
Especially the Uncle that the police treated so shamefully.
That's justice.
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That poor uncle. That feeling, whatever you want call it: Intuition, a Sixth Sense, God...it was Chloe guiding him somehow. One of the most heartbreaking clips I've ever seen
I don't know why they wasted time on him. Chloé's brother would have known if it was his uncle.
The other uncle doesn't know that thermal imaging doesn't pick up lifeless bodies? The redheaded uncle seemed to be the only intuitive empath to arrive there. _Thank god he did._
I am absolutely sure Chloe led her beloved uncle to her.
Especially if he asked her they do answer us if we listen.
It's not something we hear out loud It's something we hear
in our head and feel in our heart. It is a sad fact that family
members are sometimes involved in these cases but it is also
very sad that it can taint an innocent loving bond.
He did the right thing representing himself as soon as a
lawyer is involved you look guilty. He had nothing to hide
and he proved it I have the greatest respect for him.
As do I 💔
Thank god for the video footage or the uncle would have been charged with the murder
Watching her uncle throwing up after finding her absolutely broke my heart Jesus I can only imagine the horror :(((
Absolutely
Absolutely agree. Though, the part about asking for a lawyer making you look guilty, while he did the right thing in the end because he had nothing to hide, it could have ended badly for him if the police anymore hyped up to close the case and make him their killer. That’s a reason why you would get a lawyer when you’re innocent. Thankfully these officers weren’t lazy and did the job they’re meant to do.
The sparkle in her eyes, the pain in her uncle’s eyes and voices, and the devastation to her mother who is a prisoner of her fears as a result of this horrific tragedy were all absolutely heart wrenching. Hopefully, the laws will change and the mental healthcare professionals will make it their mission to prevent another “Chloe”, as her best friend said in her interview…
The killer’s mother does appear to be intelligent, sincere and empathetic towards Chloe’s mother. However, my view is that even if the mental health system did not take him in when they asked them to, I believe he was living alone and unsupervised + possibly un-medicated (?) at the time. I would sleep at the foot of my child’s bed and have some sort of security protocol in place if I was concerned that he could harm himself or others.
I don’t envy her position, but I do have to wonder if she could have done anything more to prevent this from happening, like more vehemently insisting that the hospital at least put him through a thorough assessment, which he had previously declined. That should be mandatory!
♥️ to Chloe’s family and friends♥️💙
Chloe’s family are absolutely broken, I was so impressed with how brave and well spoken they all came across. Honest, genuine, salt of the earth people who are living in pain it is so clear to see. I hope to god they can find some peace in this life, I dont know if I could carry on tbh, I really do pray they can get through this together. I am sure chloe is with them all still, and to Karina her mum, you are never to blame, we all yell at our kids. Bless you all ❤️
Yeah. Every shot they have of her, I'm bawling my eyes out. My heart is breaking for her.
“The man with the yellow hair took her.” Says it all. He TOOK her. She didn’t go willingly. He had a clear plan.
And the fact it was because she knocked over his marajuana.
It’s a sad day whenever the, “Mentally Ill drug addicts” have more protection and right, than an innocent child! If he was my son, I would have to pull an, ( Of mice and Men) moment and take responsibility for my monster and put him out of his misery, and protect the innocent that may cross his path!
Agreed. Why didnt the parents have the police pick him up if he was endangering society? I can guarantee you my parents would lol. Society is not responsible for broken people. We dont have the resources. Sad, but true.
Whilst I agree that in this case he was just using a mental health defence because he just wanted to get away with his vile,heinous and barbaric acts, however, there are some, very few, defendants who are mentally ill and deserve understanding and help, not locking up in jail, yes they need to be kept away from general society in a mental health institution but not jail, but those cases are few and far between, and if at any time they show that they are not mentally ill they should be transferred to jail.
Do you have children? When faced with that decision you have to be a strong person of moral... parents naturally/instinctively will give up their life to save their child
@@mercedeswestbrook4356 Even the instinct to protect our children has it's limitations (and yes I do have children) it is also against our instincts to hurt children so child molesters/murderers are defective, they have no place in society as they will always pose a threat to the children of society.
Fine if you don't have any other children. But Chloe has siblings. Her mother had to be there for them.
I’m very close to my uncle, the idea of him finding me like that… it would haunt me because I know it would haunt him, I’m so sorry for him and for poor Chloe 💔
I lost my daughter and never got justice, I died the day I buried her and had to live with knowing the person responsible was never held to account for her actions.... people cant imagine how it breaks your soul....
I’m so sorry for the passing of your daughter. And I’m sorry that the person who took her life was not punished. Not fair and not right.
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💔so sorry.
I'm lost for words. I'm so sorry that you are going through this heartbreaking, soul renching thing in your life.
❤ much love & strength to you & all affected ❤
I’m so sorry for your loss 💔 truly. I can’t even imagine your heartbreak.
This man got away with the murder of a sweet innocent child! The judicial system failed this family! He is free to commit another crime of an innocent child!
And what sucks is that when he’s released and he kills again and then they want to apologize to the next family that he ruins - it’s maddening!
This is the kind of justice system that turn good people into evil people, the judge and justice system failed chloe, May God comfort the Family.
🕊️💖🌹🌈🌟 rest I'm peace 🦋
Amin