Western Australia's Gun Buy Back
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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Some thoughts and perspective to the current situation in Western Australia, soon to be in your area if things stay as they are.....
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Link to the Western Australian Firearms Community Alliance www.wafca.com.au/
Link to full paper tabled by WA police minister.
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To quote Clint Eastwood: "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think criminals have too many guns is like castrating yourself because you think your neighbor has too many kids."
Lol, yep, Cheers Man
We all know it is not about criminals 😢
It's not about criminals, its about possible criminals in years to come.
@@jasyamaha 🤣😂🤣😂
you can't be serious. criminals can still easily get guns. The fact is if they want them they can get them without too much hassle. The only people who can't get them are those who follow the law. Meanwhile, if you think guns are the only way to harm people, then you're a fool. Knives, vehicles and home made explosives are very readily available and thanks to those gun laws you have ignorantly defended, you have nothing with which to defend yourself. Look at the ridiculous amount of knife violence going on in England. It was never the guns that were the problem. If people want to kill each other, they will find a way. It's not like violence and murder was never a problem before the invention of the gun. And please don't tell me the police will protect you, because the fact is that they can't. The best they can do is to maybe find the person that killed, don't worry though, I'm sure we will all thank your family for "taking one for the team" by disarming yourself and allowing someone to violently murder you. But that's not even the stupidest part about thinking the police will protect you. The fact that you don't want anyone but the government to have the guns means you lack even a basic knowledge of history. Throughout all of history, governments have always been the ones to commit the greatest atrocities against their civilian population, not other civilians. Not to mention that throughout all of human history, many governments have disarmed their population by claiming it was for their own safety when in fact it was always, ALWAYS, to gain more power and control over them.
really, what i'm trying to say here is, next time, shut fuck up when the grown ups are talking!
I’ve never been interested in firearms but I do know the only criminals are the elected representatives who are encroaching more and more into our lives and it’s not been a positive experience, just look at the state of the country as a whole!
This is the problem when police hierarchy are politically appointed. I feel Australians are still treated like convicts.
Thanks Man
The Authorities don’t trust and have never trusted its own citizens.
no shit
And most Australians love it.
Papalia, McGowan, and Dawson.
Their whole lives, all they know is strict rules and regulations, so they act like a hammer seeing only nails, like good little commies.
You can't teach them the importance of rights and freedom.
Taking firearms off law abiding citizens, does not affect the criminals who are the problem.
Agreed
in our town the council are the criminals and the police watch them do it. literally broke in to my house and stole my working dogs
Problem is weftists cult.
Bugger all gun crime anyway. Less if people could defend themselves
The labor party thrives on the criminal vote. The criminal vote is VITAL to Labor electoral supremacy.
How many criminals handed back their Guns....????
Lol, Cheers
The largest criminal is the government
If a person has a firearm which they wish to turn it inyou will not be paid for it if you don’t have a license
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Zero
We've NEVER had a gun problem in Australia, it's a political problem !!!
Agreed
Totally agree!
The Uniparty is two cheeks on the same butt 🤣
Tell that to the victims of Port Arthur moron.
Port Arthur disagrees with you about that.
Turn an innocent law abiding citizen into a criminal
Yep
It stinks shooting my hole adult life gun / Bows pay taxes never been in trouble with the law and I’m a criminal because I like things that shoot
It’s like you say there removing our rights one brick at a time and people are to stupid to see this
The Americans perfected that, and Albo is now implementing it in Australia.
WE ARE NOT THE CRIMINALS
GOVERNMENT POLITITIANS POLICE
ARE THE CRIMINALS
THIS IS A RE RUN OF 1939 HITLERS GERMANY STALINIST RUSSIA CHAIRMAN MAO CHINA N.KOREA
THEY WANT A ONE WORLD RELIGION THAT L BE ISLAMIC
AND A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
THAT L BE THE U.N.
ARE WE GOING TO LET THIS HAPPEN
NO
START GEARING UP
They don't understand more legal guns means less crimes
For the most part firearms owners are the most law abiding segment of society, most comply with the law as they should
Thanks Paul
I have to agree with you
Just imagine if they used that $64m to do actual police work
Lol. Yep. Cheers
was that the actual budget? fuckin insane! that would be a significant help to the homeless problem if well thought out.
@@smashlee6181 yep $64m set aside to cover the "buyback"
Actual police work! That's alot of coffee and donuts
Putting the words police and work in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
As said before, the people dying at the hands of doctors exceeded the problem of fire arms a 1000 fold.
The gov would be better off dealing with the failings of the medical profession.
Yep. Cheers
💯 correct
Never a truer word spoken
Gun laws are already outrageous before this
Yes, I totally agree
I'm in SA and understand this effects all of us Nationally. If the WA Labour government push this through it will be taken Nationally. Get onto your local members and tell them if this goes through in WA you will not be voting them in in your next state and national election.
Great suggestion, but they couldn't care less......🤔it's all rigged anyway. Just ask the corrupt WEF Organisation. It's all done by design. It's already been set and planned long ago.
Agreed, thanks Man
I agree, i am in sa too and that is a worry.
But question is what the government is doing to control invassive animals, as a civil I can not go and hunt in a national park to get a goat or camel for my own consumption but the government take a choper to kill 200 to 600 animals per group and live all this to the fly a big waste of meat
Can U point too “ local government/ councils “ in our Commonwealth Constitution ??
Oh it’s NOT in there, now that can’t be right, surely !! They’re not listed in our LAW book, yet the people are forced to pay their wages + it’s OK for a foreign entity that holds / has absolutely no authority or jurisdiction to EXTORT yr hard earned money for FICTIONAL TAXES !! Wake up
@@Kelly-wf5ie Each states & territory established their own tertiary level of government, as they are allowed. They passed on some of their responsibilities and powers to local government. It's legal.
You can thank John Howard and the liberals for getting the ball rolling to what we have nowadays
As said, both majors are on the same side with this one...
@@markandsamafterwork Howard was behind Port Arthur in conjunction with Bush and the American Deep State
Only bob katter supports gun rights
100%
@@larry3867another one that doesn’t hold/ have any authority or jurisdiction to do 💩, especially when he ANNOUNCED to the world, on some radio station, that he has NEVER taken the OATH TO OFFICE, yet the taxpayers are forced to pay these IMPOSTORS
Unfortunately, there are many things I thought would never happen that are happening every day now. The totalitarians are gaining a lot of ground, and if history serves as a guide to what happens next, it is not good.
Thanks Duggy
W.A. GESTAPO THIS IS WHAT HITLER DONE TO THE GERMAN PEOPLE IN 1939
DISARMED THEM BEFORE HE STARTED MURDERING HIS OWN PEOPLE
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN HERE
You are on the spot mate 🤔
🤔God know, doesn’t look good.
Its called communism. Look at the fed Labor government at work now!
Yes, look at knife crime, our society bans one type of edged weapon after another but then ignores the behaviour, eventually you won’t be allowed a kitchen knife or an axe or tomahawk or wood splitter because we blame the implement rather than the behaviour.
Mass noncompliance. That’s the only thing we can do once these laws come into effect
Tough talk, rarely followed with action... what about action before the need for non compliance!
Aussies don’t know how, look at the vaccine compliance
@@brendendyson8470 Did neither of you watch the jack booted thugs beating people because they were outside without a mask? Are you really going to shoot the police? They will just pick you off one by one! And they don't care if you don't survive.
@@brendendyson8470Yes exactly, majority of Australians are pushovers and will literally accept anything drafted by an “authority figure” for their supposed own good.
@@markandsamafterworkto have fundamental beneficial action before non compliance was required, would require a non corrupt government and public servant sector which doesn't exist within current reality anywhere on earth. We have nothing more than a public sector of employees who conduct themselves and create power for themselves that are in no way shape or form the will or voice of the people but mere employees with ego creating things at will. They entire system is a scam. Voicing your opinion means nothing in the modern world, the employee public sector is superior to the tax paying employers who are the subordinates as is clearly shown everyday across the world with the action of governments. Democracy doesn't exist. Obeying and conforming and complying does absolutely nothing but continue to condone their actions and enables them to obtain more control and power. Its legitimately illogical to play their game as they created it for their benefit. If it truly worked as a system designed they way its supposed to be.... For the benefit of the people, the world and state of endless continuous struggle of the overwhelming majority of the human population for the past 3000+ years would have happened and wouldn't still be the theme at the forefront of "life"
You are right , our problem is we don't stand together and until we do we are screwed.
Agreed, thanks man
I've said for years, ever since duck hunting was banned in WA back in 1986, that WA firearm holders should form a united front to the WA Parliament and police.
WA hunters and shooters are very a very complacent lot, taking the almost traditional response of: "Bugger you, I'm alright Jack!" attitude in protecting their sport. They always think "the other guy" will do something about it and not them!! For DECADES, we've taken EVERY idiotic BS measure against us and our sport - as dictated by the police - sweetly and without murmur!!
Every minority at least has the balls to stand up when it counts to state their disapproval - and time and time again they get the politicians to sit up and make the changes THEY want!! But we, as a fraternity? We do nothing!! We're the most apathetic 90K people in this state - and the police know it.
When Pap-Smear announced his BS, I proposed on social media that we should hold a demonstration march to show our disapproval. IF 20K out of the 90K licensed firearm holders in this state marched on Parliament House demanding Pap-Smear to stick his proposals up his arse, I'm sure the Govt would then leave Pap-Smear in the cold, rather than risk losing the next election.
The fact remains that if we just keep talking, and take no action - as has been legally done by other minorities - then we DESERVE all the BS that Pap-Smear is trying to force through Parliament.
In other words,if you don't"voluntarily" comply,the"police"will take your guns at GUNPOINT! It looks like most Australians are ok with being told they don't"need"guns by people that have guns.😟
We have a high sheeple content for sure, its what comes with having things too good for too long...
Ive been saying this for years oz the lucky country comfy for too long we dont know hardship but its coming @@markandsamafterwork
I've sead It before and nothing will while you comply with a corrupted police force and government, They have no intention of stopping until there is no privately owned fire arms left at all .
That's what the Nazis did
Police don’t investigate Police in QLD. Deaths from shootings in previous year alone in QLD was more than entire country.. many were innocent people.. and truth is being covered up, tasers should have been first choice of use!
Hallelujah Brother! Two party politics is BS!!
Agreed
100% ratchet theory
Years ago Labor & Liberal colluded to ensure only one of them ever get the last musical chair in Federal elections. At election times (federal and state), "Joel Jammal" on youtube and "Turning Point Australia" investigates each candidate in detail and produces a simple summary chart showing what each candidate believes/wants - which makes it easy to select someone to vote for, instead us of drawing a line through the ballot because we have no idea if they are human or reptile.
They also produce voting suggestions for every electorate which deletes votes, preference votes, as well as SEATS and million$ in ELECTION FUNDING from both Labor & Liberal. As those two lose their seats, they also lose the ability to pass any new legislation. And the new people in those seats refuse to vote with them unless they change other laws first.
As time goes on word about this will spread (like I'm doing right now), tall poppy syndrome will kick in, and more people will vote this way, abandoning the big two AND any party/candidate who hands Labor/Liberal their preferences.
THIS is how we eventually get to change back the laws I mentioned in my first sentence. THEN we might get a government who GOVERNS instead of CONTROLS and ABUSES us.
Compared to what? Show me a proportional representative country that you think works and I'll show you 100% more that don't.
Gun owners and pro gun enthusiasts really need to get together to bush back against this BS
Yep
Yes bit for some unknown reason they don’t.
I feel your pain mate - I've seen the change in our rights in the owning and use of firearms over the last 50+ years. In NSW I can't even use a simple slingshot without being in jeopardy of being branded a criminal. We live in a a controlled state - our criminal colony heritage has never left us.
Thanks Howard. Cheers
My Dad use to make sling shots for us kids a forked stick couple strips of rubber from a tyre tube. Everyone had a sling shot good for fine motor skills and aim.
need to get rid of preference votes.....
Agreed
That will just make it easier for the major parties to hold power, what we need is proportional representation in the lower houses of state and federal parliaments, like they have in Tasmania, it ensures that minor parties can take the balance of power once they reach a threshold of support.
Hare-Clarke system, go and look into it originally it was planned to implement it nationwide, but was stopped, I wonder why?.
State governments are out dated corrupt unsuitable incompetent and overpaid. The day we abolish state government will be a victory for the people of Australia we will save billions one government one gun licence one car licence one drivers licence again we will save billions and billions of taxpayers money
Preferential voting is ok, but the electoral commission needs to put an end to the parties declaring where their votes go, that’s not how preferential voting works, they shouldn’t have a say where their votes go.
Example, how many times have we heard the wanker Greens party say they want their votes going to Labor! That should be stopped in its tracks.
@@axeman2638 It has drawbacks in Tassie. Frequent minority governments mean instability & little accomplished. A government formed (commonly) from 13 MPs means each MP has a tonne of portfolios & responsibilities.
Cross-party portfolios means secrets come out. I'm not supporting secretive reign, but governments do need a little privacy & discretion to function.
In WA, a majority of 25 would allow ministerial portfolios to be spread broadly, but how can you be assured of quality? The majors struggle to find competent candidates. Imagine all the dingbats appointed under the Hare-Clarke system from minor parties. They attract deadbeats & extremists.
Much of a minister's work is often done by his/her staff. Even worse than a dropkick from a minor running an important portfolio, they'd be informed and supported by even more incompetent dropkicks. I foresee that government as one of mediocrity, snail's pace of progress, blunders, and rent by personal squabbles.
Preferential voting still delivers the closest to what the majority wants.
Smart approach mate. Hope us Aussies can shout this across all forms of control. No to taking our rights. Digital ID is a good example of madness.
Agreed, thanks Man
UNALIENABLE RITES can never be dissolved, traded, sold, given away etc… NOTHING, bc they were given to us by our creator, way b4 “ States “ were even thought of, they are our BIRTHRIGHT !!
Most people are too comfy to push back against the eventual slavery to entrap their children. Truly regrettable
Frogs in the pot...
I'm glad that people are waking up to what's going on. This is all coming straight from the wicked and evil WEF Organisation !!
They treat us citizens with utter contempt
Yep
Still treated as convicts in Australia. By corrupt politicians
Cheers
Way too many red flags for me to ever sell even a knife to the government.
Thanks Man
You're absolutely correct, it's about our rights in many forums and neither major party gives a hoot! Don't vote majors, vote minor parties and independent, all you have to do is remove thier majority in the parliament and have a few good people in there to hold them to book!
Thanks Man
I’ve never done it before, but I’m voting One Nation this time. I can’t see a time when I would ever go back to one of the major parties, they’re all the fucking same, criminal enterprises.
From Tennessee, we appreciate you Mark and Sam. We can never give up.
Thanks Josh
I am a Kiwi, a few years ago I took on a contract in WA which lead to me travelling there once every 6 week for 2 weeks over a couple of years.
What surprised me is the rarity of firearms owners in the urban setting (Perth) I only came across one hunter /shooter in the hundreds of guys I worked with. Here in NZ its allot more common. Also very few Hunting specialist shops. My workmate who was curious of my interest in hunting took me too one in our travels. The firearms on display were much like here and I was able to show my mate examples of most of my own firearms the lady behind the counter wasn't busy so allowed me to handle them and show my buddy.
You are also correct I noticed that amongst the non-shooting ordinary blokes/tradies/etc who here would be curious or ambivalent they were distinctly anti and the ones who weren't were usually ex Kiwi's.
Another interesting thing is the guy who did shoot and hunt, we got on very well at work to the point he offered to take me hunting. I didn't want to? I later worked out I am not interested in just shooting animals and rather its about being part of the ecosystem that I at home live in and understand. I don't understand and don't have a vested interest in your ecosystem hard to explain to a non hunter I guess. Certainly I am pleased with my own Philosophy that I am not a trophy hunter only keen on ticking another species off the list.
I am not an Aussie so can't offer anything on your battles but as you know we have similar issues here. So I can commiserate only advice I have to ALL firearms owners where ever you are is be a good ambassador for your sport, if you come across an anti, then engage calmly and explain your sport, same for the many who are curious and just want to know engage and tell them what shooting and hunting really mean to you, dispel the myths with logic and calm reason.
Keep up the good fight Mark and Sam.
Thank you sir, Cheers
Remember the immortal words of Charlton Heston. "You can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold ,dead hands."
Cheers
Words to live by. If they want anything you have be concerned, what is their agenda to strip you of legally purchased items
And unfortunately that’s the worst thing you could say in Australia.
Be smart about it like what was said, get together with other communities that have had their rights restricted, like the 4x4 clubs, and bushwalkers clubs, and others, who have been severely restricted in what they can do, instead of the freedom they enjoyed.
That’s the smart way of beating this problem.
Being a hot head solves nothing.
Peaceful action does nothing, and it has done nothing for the last 30 years. When the government have a problem with someone do they just make posts online? Do they just voice their objection? Or do the send men with guns to enforce it? @cohort075
Living in Canada I’ve had the same type of experience as yourself. It’s ridiculous . The gun community are the most stand up law abiding citizens in the country
Yep Agreed. All the best to you and yours in Canada. Cheers
Vote Pierre Poilievre
@@larry3867
Absolutely
When toys are registrable firearms you know it’s a losing battle.
Yep. Cheers
Looks like a lot of firearms are about to disappear in boating accidents 🤷♂️
Not so easy in this state...
I'm sure the"police"(storm troopers) kicking down your door at 3am will buy that line!👍
The government is two wings of the same bird. Thank you for the update great video.
Yep, Cheers Man
And this particular bird is just a rat with wings!
Don’t go shooting
Don’t go fishing
Don’t go camping
Don’t go boating
Just go to work pay taxes
Yep
And do as you are told!
Buy firearms back from criminals, not law-abiding citizens.
Agreed
Bunnings reporting record sales of PVC pipe and shovels
Lol
Good idea 👍🏻
If they didn't sell them in the first place, buy back is a false narrative. But the seller gets to name their price if they want to sell. And any gun that the public can't own, the police can't either.
Using common sense in this world, best of luck with that..., Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork I'm trying, sometimes very trying. LOL
I think you'll find that if it's registered with the state, the state owns it.
That includes guns, cars and your children.
What is this b/s**t ? Nothing above makes Any sense...dude that posted this thread? Get yr facts right!
@@axeman2638 💯%
“For your safety” gets thrown around a lot nowadays.. shit always gets worse
Lol, yep
I agree completely the whole system has totally gone against We The People and if we don't come together and remind them exactly who they represent it will continue to get even worse than what we have been noticing in recent memory our forefathers warned us about all these negative impacts on We The People We must unite Now Nobody's coming to save us Thanks for sharing my friend Be well and God Bless you and Yours
Thanks Mike
The government doesn't care about homeless people dying on streets but gets mad at shotguns
If they treat you like this now, imagine how they will treat you when you are unarmed.
Cheers
Agree 100%
I’m sorry you’re in this position, it’s horrific public policy and will achieve nothing in the long run. The older I get the more I libertarian I become - I’d just like the government to f$%k off and let me live my life free from their interference, because let’s face it, everything they touch turns to complete crap in the end.
Thanks Man
Thanks Mark, I appreciate you and Sam being in the corner of logic and reason and willing to devote time and resources to that cause 👍🏻
Cheers Rick
Well said. From schools to guns, mandates and general wokeness, these politicians and bureaucrats are wrecking Australia.
Yep, Cheers
Thanks for the update Mark. You nailed it, it’s all about getting re-elected. I personally never have or never will vote for either of the major parties because of their lies and deception, particularly Labor.
Thanks Rob
Same problems in the UK, seems the civil servants are running the country and not the government 🤬
Yep
Liberal and Labor are different cheeks of the same arse. Maybe a few licensed dealers could show up at the buyback and offer similar money for a number of firearms, at least the collectable ones. Don’t have to buy many to give the government the middle finger.
Thanks Ben
Great words mate time to wake up all our fellow Australians that are having their rights taken away !
Agreed, Cheers Man
Well said Mark,Yes both parties are basically now formed into a mono party that differ only on some issues,but when in Govt. Adopt the former Govt policies anyway. I haven't voted for a major party in over 30 Years. I think Aussies are getting clued onto doing that now,We can only hope! Keep up the great work.
Agreed, Cheers
I’m giving this country a couple more years,then I’ll be looking at options abroad.
I’m trying to wake people up a bit to how shit our uniparty is here and their hangers on.
Thanks Man
Where will you go? The only place you can go if you want unfettered access to firearms is America.
Other than that, it’s a shite hole.
Keep up the great videos telling the truth about the WA government Mark and Sam 👍 as a life long Labour voter I’ll never vote for them again ever
I try to talk to as many people as I can here in WA about firearms. Most people think we are like America with the types of firearms and the laws….brainwashed by propaganda
Thanks Chris, Cheers
every gun owner needs to get together and stand up for our rights ..
Everyone that want a better government should be in that crowd!
Thats only about 800,000 across the entire country and since there are no entrenched rights here, you're just pissing into the wind
@@shaynegadsden so your giving up ?? great attitude...so you're a sheep just going with the flow . Regardless of laws people will still have firearms in some way or the other. you think people care about the law NO. I think they would have control with registration of firearms good people doing the right thing. banning all firearms will not end well . fight he good fight do your part like all of us will ..dont support labor or liberal ..vote for the people who believe in what we do ..
Thanks for the update. I live in Colorado, USA and I am witnessing the same here. What you say is pertinent here as well. A few politicians have the power and some of the most biased and unelected people are writing the legislation.
Thanks Wally. Cheers
I told people in the USA that it's only a matter of time till u guys start getting gun laws changed looks like it's starting to happen there as well my bro in-law now lives in Colorado somewhere called Palisades or something like that on a bit of a farm a needs to get a firearm to protect the kids and his animals from predators hope it's not gonna be to hard to get a license
Sad too see this crap happening in Australia, thin end of the wedge i afraid , all the best 🇬🇧
Thanks man. Cheers
They revoked my pistol and riffle licence in NSW due to a bad driving record.A few too many speeding fines.Australia is a complete police state now.
Thanks Ross
Cheers mate every day i walk past my long arms safes i wonder whats next with these evil criminals in charge,
FAR NORTH QUEENSLAND
Thanks Tony
The cook government has not only done this to law abiding citizens whom own firearms, but have drafts aimed at land usage in the Darling Scarp (4x4) and South West Beaches, which we have seen with Preston Beach over the Easter break. Not to mention the retrospective criminal charges for replacement of a driveway culvert in Toodyay, for which the land owner had all the Council approvals that were required. Basically if the government doesn’t like it then the will make sure it is hard for you to do or ban it altogether.
Yes happening all over. Thanks Belinda. Cheers
Isn’t it the crook government?
We are going to have to get smart and lie, cheat, and steal like our govmt.
But who would even go that low......?🤔
There needs to be curbs on 4WD use, they do a lot of damage in the bush. And you can either have huge 4WDs on beaches, or you can have a variety of recreational activities. Not both. Why 4WDs can take precedence, IDK.
Retrospective criminal charges? If the cops don't catch a bank robber for 5 months, are the charges they lay retrospective? We've been fed a lot of bullsh1t about that Toodyay land-owner. How are they retrospective?
@@Gough-jf9zf what sort of idiot are you, tony had all the approvals and that dept decided to charge him anyway. Blocking 4x4 access to track is just another way to take away right of access to public areas.
Sound like you the totalitarian movement of the far left and with a name like Gough it shouldn’t surprise anyone lefty.
Here’s some support from the anti-gun state of California. From our loony left coast to yours, you’ve got my support. Sadly, my own family in Sydney are pretty much in that “misinformed” camp you described. No level of my attempting to show them responsible gun ownership and handling can mean a very enjoyable hobby and past time to be safely done. It’s like they’re entranced by the media. Such a shame. Same thing with the cough cough
Thanks Man, Cheers
Good luck my friend.....these politicians care nothing for what's best for their constituents. We see this over and over here in the States
Agreed, thanks Steve
It's the same world wide, it's just taken longer to reach this level in the "western" world.
40 years ago [UK] we had politicians who had been through WW2 and understood what freedom meant and the sacrifices that had been made to ensure that those freedoms were upheld. Looking further back [I'm 63] I can see that "the best of times" were the 50s and 60's. Not particularly financially better, but the state had so much less interface and direct contact [control] with the citizens.
The biggest mistake ever made in Australia was not having our own 2nd amendment
Cheers
"Come and take it"
Much love from Colorado!
Cheers
To spend $64M on gun buyback while there are so many homeless in Perth now is ludicrous. That money could be used to build hundreds of new homes. Labour governments across Australia have done so much damage to peoples well being . It makes you wonder who keeps voting for them.
Agreed
The problem is our inability to have our constitution strong or acknowledged.
To me its about controlling Good, law abiding & moral prudent people cannot freely have a sport or Defend ourselves against illegal firearms owned by criminals.
Cheers Man
They do have a law that says if they think you’re a threat to yourself or anyone they can confiscate your guns. So if someone calls and says you’re a threat regardless if you are not your shit out of luck.
Yes as in most of the world, that is possible, Cheers
Mate I’m with you all the way , problem is that most politicians including independents are too career driven to properly represent the people who elect them.
Thanks Man
I'm a licensed gun owner in the Netherlands and your story (except for the buy back) has a lot of simularities to our situation. We are the most controlled group of people in the country, with random unannounced gun checks by police (no problem with thats, its the law) and a lot of other restictions on usage and storage, number of guns and quantity of ammo stocked. Even the route you take to the range can be a discussion point. Speeding or running a red light can mean you lose everything and still some of my friend feel it's rediculous I own guns. But if I ask them to join me and see that's it is not an agresive sport they refuse because it is "not done"
Thank you Hans
Similar in Ireland.
Spot on. The only missing pieces are the uniting force or motivation to bring all the 4WD, Fishing and outdoor groups together and the right person to sell the message. Big boobs usually works in my experience.
Yep, lol, Cheers
Vote One Nation, Pauline Hanson is switched on and is for the people. Gun owners are a responsible type and taking our guns is a definite loss of freedoms.
Firearms Ownership - One Nation supports responsible gun ownership and will preserve the current laws which allow law abiding citizens access to firearms, whether it be for work, farming or sports-related activities. We do not believe that further stringent measures or regulations are required regarding licensing. One Nation calls for stricter border security and tougher sentencing for gun crimes and traffickers.
Thanks Paul, Cheers
Same here,bureaucrats making rules that bypass the peoples ability to have a just system of law
Thanks Jerry
Thanks for the update, Mark. I received a letter this week from firearms licensing about digital licensing. Can you give a video on this. Cheers Glenn.
Real simple that one, don't go digital, but yes probably will, Cheers
The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe
For the axe was smart and convinced the tree that because it's handle was made of wood he was one of them.
Lol, Cheers
The "police" get to keep their guns, though.... even after retirement. See how they do that?
Not sure. Cheers
Democratic Socialist Republic of Australia has been my greatest fear now coming to life.
Thanks Will
You Aussies should try some of our 'Merican tricks on gun buy backs.
There was a guy that built literal wood and plastic toys that met the description of "weapons" that met requirements to get paid.
Make toys for $18 for gun buy back
Get paid $400 for toys
Deplete the allocated funds when done with friends:)
Registered only...Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork Drat:(
Buy back is a nice word for confiscation!
We need a constitution like Americas 🇺🇸
Cheers
Absolutely we need a bill of rights and a second amendment
When permission/privileges are granted by Governments, they will *ALWAYS* be subject to futher revision and ultimately revocation 🙄
Lol, Cheers
The Firearms lobby, needs to publicly now go after the Police Commissioner.
He’s not an elected representative, he is a public servant.
Just recently his son, who is a serving Police Officer in WA where his father is the Commissioner of that force, was arrested & convicted of a hooning offence - riding his motorbike more than 45kph over the legal speed limit.
It’s a fact that you cannot join the Police Academy to be trained as a police officer in WA if you have a hooning conviction on your record within the last 10 years. Your ineligible.
Yet the Commissioners son somehow retains his position as a serving Police Officer, when convicted of a hooning offence while serving?
This is double standards of the worst nepotism kind.
I’m not specifically personally against the Commissioner or his Son, however, when you take on the entire law abiding firearms owners of WA, then you leave yourself open to criticism when family matters spill over into the public arena and the performance of your jobs.
In this particular circumstance,the opportunity presents for the Fishers & Shooters party parliamentary member to introduce a private members bill / motion of “no confidence” in the Police Commissioner, The Commissioners Son & the Minister for Police, who has abrogated his responsibility in “failure to act” to uphold satisfactory standards in this matter.
The Police Minister chose to pick this battle with the law abiding Firearms Community - now that the opportunity presents itself, it’s time to take that fight direct to the Minister & his Commissioner in the Parliament for everyone to see.
It’s important that they all know that the Firearms lobby isn’t going to sit idly bye while this gets “swept under the rug” for as long as this draconian new Firearms Act remains on the agenda.
Thanks Ian. Cheers
Thanks for being there for us regardless, appreciate the time and effort.
Thanks Man
Western Australia , a police state , cant have fun with toy guns , cant have fun with paint ball guns cant have fun full STOP
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It’s ridiculous
They are Treating you like Criminals , I think the same thing is going to happen here in the UK. they have already taken our Handguns off us. Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Thanks Man
It is worth repeating….. But we in Western Australia have the largest state land mass with the strictest firearm laws ( the person and every legally held firearm) AND the most law abiding firearm owners….. Yet I truly believe Minister Papalia is the one with the problem.
Both he and those within the department who are pushing these law changes are only picking the low hanging fruit in their attempts to control our society and remove every and all freedoms that we currently enjoy. Surely their policies and amendment’s when examined carefully are very open to interpretation and very dangerous, which in the future will come back on us all INCLUDING them ( Labor Party when they are in opposition) when others will see how easy it is to get democratically elected and then once inside attempt to push their own ill informed, ill concieved and ideological agendas in whatever areas they wish with little concern on the damage that results, ie gender reassignment, Woke, education, freedom of speech, etc to name a few.
Thanks Phil, Cheers Man
Agree with everything you said Mark, the system has been broken for a long time now, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️
Cheers Yogi
Vote One Nation.
Yep, Cheers
Absolutely
Hahaha. No fucxing way.......!
As a retired person I have a pension concession card. It seems New South Wales police are targeting those cardholders. What eventually seem to work was writing to my local state member of Parliament in an election year. Finally got my license in five days after fighting them for two years. Go figure🤷♂️
Democracy is corrupt, and hard-line communists such as Albo are the only ones who are offering an alternative.
Lol, Cheers Man
I'll sell ya one, they start at $500,000 for a Ruger 10/22
Lol
They will give you $300
@@MrOlgrumpy NO deal
One Nation is going to get my vote next election. I will never vote for the uniparty again. Liberal/Labor same difference as Coles and Woolies.
Voting for any political party will change nothing. One nation is just another way of saying Liberal party. Simply check were the vote preferences go... One Nation = Liberal party. They are fooling you, and laughing about it.
Thanks Man
Just came across this channel.
We, as LAFO, are all going to go through the exact same thing that WA is going through, if we don't stand TOGETHER!
Since firearm reform in the 90s, nothing has changed. Criminals will be criminals and do not care about the law. Why? Because they are Criminals!
A drunk driver, driving home drunk, and kills a family, the government doesn't ban cars, right?
WE ALL MUST STAND TOGETHER.
No target rifle shooters, no pistol shooters, no shotgun shooters, no hunters. Just LAFO standing together.
God bless Australia, and let all get involved!
Thanks Man, Cheers
Very correct !!!, this government system are taking Right all round.
I think the Australian government have become too big for their boots and the whole system “police included “ needs a reset.
Agreed, Thanks
here in the US we have the problem where people don't vote due to the fact they don't believe their vote counts
Thanks Man
I've been watching abit of parliament lately. Sadly whatever One Nation puts on the table still gets laughed at and totally ignored. They will never take Pauline seriously
Yep, need to stop voting for the big 2
One Nation is just the LNP. She backs everything the LNP wants,We need to get rid of the LNP and Labor plus the others that preference them.
She has been accurate with all of her predictions so far..
The entire senate needs to be sacked and also their automatic replacement senate.
The politicians are not representing our will.
We all need to stop the bullying by all placing a vote of no confidence as no candidate represents our will.
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Thank you to our founding fathers for the second amendment. It's been keeping the political parties from incorporating restrictions and keeping the dictatorial government from oppressing us.
Yes, wise men who had just lived through bad times...Cheers
Nick Goiran (liberals) is trying hard to run a campaign against this bill
Ne seems like a decent chap.
Is he tho? Ive heard hes all talk
Awesome, Cheers
He tries very hard to keep the current government accountable, but there's only so much you can do while in "opposition". He's a decent guy
It’s a nanny state -,they want to control everything - & we are the minority as gun owners
100% agree Mark with all you said. You are sounding like a Libertarian in some of you're thinking. Good.
Cheers Kerry
Great information thanks Mark! I like your strategy of joining forces with other West Aussies who have also have their rights taken away. There are a lot of us. I have never seen this state run by such a totalitarian regime. It is sad that so few people seem to care about it. Come on WA, we need to stand up for our freedoms while we still have some!
Thanks Glen
The minister seems to forget about the separation of powers doctrine.
The last time that I saw a "buy back" promotion by police was a few years ago on a roadside VMB.
Yes, broken democracy...
Dont forget that you can be found as no longer a fit and proper person to own a gun if you disagree with the police minister on any matter. including politicaly.
Yep
Gun buybacks or a joke, taxpayers paying for their guns twice
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It's not about criminals it's about you being defenseless.
Thanks Andy
They do nothing about crime and they d everything they can to target innocent people
Yup
Mark, you speak so much sense, thank you. Also, I see that you reply to everyone who comments, highly impressive!
Thanks Man, cheers
You are spot on with your take regarding proposed new gun laws. Government on both side are taking your right away one law at a time .The politician are corrupt they are not for use .They are greedy for power. Like all Gaverment they victims the minority. Keep up the good work we will win this fight .
Thanks Gavin