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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Месяц назад +19

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
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    • @GeneralPadron
      @GeneralPadron Месяц назад

      Apparently, DCS doesn't know the capabilities of the YF-23 Widowmaker.

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 Месяц назад +1

      "It's not the plane, it's the ejection seat."
      - Martin-Baker

    • @Sajuuk
      @Sajuuk Месяц назад

      The YF23, the F22's bane.

    • @yuuzyerbrejn9603
      @yuuzyerbrejn9603 Месяц назад +2

      We once watched an F-16 Viper demo pilot do a 350 knot 9g circle WITHIN the forest boundaries of the runways of the local airport in Florida- Titusville in this case. I couldn't freakin believe it!

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Месяц назад +2

      Please create a Vid with The A-10C & F-15E while on the same team competing! In the sense that you'll not really looking out for each other, trying to get the most kills (+important kills), and of course survive! VS Couple Mi-24's, few Iglas, Strela, Tunguska, SA-5, and couple SU-25's! Plus provide ground support VS .50 Technical Trucks, BTR's, BMP's, T-72's, and couple T-90's!🙏👍

  • @jbc242424
    @jbc242424 Месяц назад +446

    I want to see YOU in that YF-23!

    • @EB-Ghost6
      @EB-Ghost6 Месяц назад +26

      bro probably just foretold the future

    • @_vortech_
      @_vortech_ Месяц назад +5

      YAS!!!!!!

    • @AdRxElite
      @AdRxElite Месяц назад +60

      Generally these modded aircraft tend not to have fleshed out interiors and are otherwise pretty barebones and GS has a history of staying away from that for the most part.

    • @_vortech_
      @_vortech_ Месяц назад +9

      @AdRxElite I did not know that. So, all we need is for someone to 3D build a cockpit and to have the avionics written up for each system.

    • @drewparcel1727
      @drewparcel1727 Месяц назад +10

      I have been hoping to see GS in the black widow every time I see a video dropped that features it. Now I just see it at a running joke. How many videos will GS drop of the f23 where he doesn’t even fly it. I’ve heard that many mods will use cockpits out of other jets and I would be willing to look past that.

  • @manzelli1981
    @manzelli1981 Месяц назад +229

    I love these head to heads against Toxic. Dude can fight.

    • @NoName-yl1js
      @NoName-yl1js Месяц назад +21

      who is toxic? im always curious about this guy bcs he seems like a worthy opponent for gs

    • @ghostrowbot3189
      @ghostrowbot3189 Месяц назад +15

      Came here to say the same dude can fly.

    • @FuzedBox
      @FuzedBox Месяц назад +21

      That Br3aker7 guy he fought against yesterday was really, really good and he seemed to know exactly how GS's mind works. He was a scary opponent that I'd like to see more of.

    • @otterconnor942
      @otterconnor942 Месяц назад +4

      It would be hilarious if toxic was using a Xbox controller to beat GS

  • @xeiroe_gaming
    @xeiroe_gaming Месяц назад +197

    take a drink every time GS says "circle"
    i lasted about 6 minutes. posting this from heaven

    • @mk6315
      @mk6315 Месяц назад +16

      I survived but my urine now has an octane rating

    • @Ayeshteni
      @Ayeshteni Месяц назад +4

      Iii'mm aa fiyne, I muy bee a liddl druunk............

    • @Missile_Guidance_System482
      @Missile_Guidance_System482 Месяц назад +4

      Heujeneejsisgeyyhehehshhehhhhhuuuuuuhhhhh......????
      I'm sober now. Never doing that again...

    • @happyduckling8401
      @happyduckling8401 Месяц назад

      Segutxvtexxsaz

  • @lewiemotorsports3616
    @lewiemotorsports3616 Месяц назад +189

    Yf23 is such a scary but beautiful looking bird.

    • @maximan4363
      @maximan4363 Месяц назад +7

      I love the YF-23!!! It should have won against the YF-22, both are utterly outstanding!!!! Yep the unloaded F-16 is an amazing dogfighter - it's what it was made for!! What NGAS can do will be fecking scary!!!

  • @benn454
    @benn454 Месяц назад +74

    At least you got revenge for the headshots by making Toxic eject straight into the ground in the last round.

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants Месяц назад +49

    Props to whoever was piloting the Black Widow... that wasn't just dogfighting, that was aerial ballet.

    • @devanarayans5131
      @devanarayans5131 Месяц назад +1

      Exactly it was simply beautiful.. The f22 could never

  • @Ifoughtpiranhas
    @Ifoughtpiranhas Месяц назад +41

    It's cool to see the cannon shells exploding on the ground as GS "walks" his stream of 20mm into the YF-23. Such great details the programmers accomplished in this sim.

  • @SM-qo9gr
    @SM-qo9gr Месяц назад +36

    GS be like "im chasing his tail" WHILE HAVING BANDIT ON HIS TAIL!😂

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 Месяц назад +15

    7:54, Civilian Potato Cam? I Like it!

  • @earlwoody777
    @earlwoody777 Месяц назад +27

    I love you when you get a cockpit shot your voice cuts out too, makes it all the more funny lmao. Love you GS

  • @WesterGuard
    @WesterGuard Месяц назад +27

    "5th generation pilot face targeting system." LOL!! 😆🤣😆

  • @luckyno888
    @luckyno888 Месяц назад +9

    YF-23 looks like the deadliest flying squirrel.

  • @nicomeier8098
    @nicomeier8098 Месяц назад +33

    If I recollect correctly, the YF23 had better IR stealth and radar stealth, as well as higher super cruise and more range then the YF22, but was more an interceptor then a dog fighter.

    • @Xenomorphine
      @Xenomorphine Месяц назад +8

      Also had at least one fatal flaw.
      Plus, the USAF was not happy about Northrop's dodgy behaviour, regarding B-2 funds.

    • @recoilrob324
      @recoilrob324 Месяц назад +20

      IIRC the YF-23 did not have a functioning weapons bay and could not launch missiles as the YF-22 had already done....and there was a lot of concern that the fuselage structure would be compromised when the weapons bay was cut out. The composite structure was still experimental where the YF-22 made of proven materials and techniques....the AF likes 'Evolutionary' rather than 'Revolutionary' aircraft designs that they can have high confidence they won't run into insurmountable issues during development.

    • @baremetalmafia
      @baremetalmafia Месяц назад +7

      Do not be surprised if you notice huge similarities with the YF-23 and the NGAD when we finally see it.

    • @Xenomorphine
      @Xenomorphine Месяц назад +4

      @@baremetalmafia Why would there be? It's obsolete technology. Northrop isn't known to have won the NGAD contract, either.
      Any similarities would be superficial and cosmetic, at absolute best.

  • @rocketpunchgo1
    @rocketpunchgo1 Месяц назад +5

    You know it's going to be a good fight when Toxic is at the stick.

  • @davidgeorge5531
    @davidgeorge5531 Месяц назад +9

    Just went to the Air Force museum in Dayton. They have a YF-23 it is so amazing

  • @DeeSnow97
    @DeeSnow97 Месяц назад +7

    the F-16 is such an amazing aircraft. looks like with no blunders in this match-up it should win every time, but the YF-23 is so unforgiving, it really demands the same respect as the F-22

  • @hanrockabrand95
    @hanrockabrand95 Месяц назад +18

    The recent update also makes grass wave in the jetwash behind the runway. It looks so cool

    • @raz4371
      @raz4371 Месяц назад +2

      Trees also flex when explosions go off near them

    • @hanrockabrand95
      @hanrockabrand95 Месяц назад +1

      @@raz4371 As do I when they go off near me 💪

  • @firebald2915
    @firebald2915 Месяц назад +12

    Thanks for the ground view video camera work on the Round 2 kill shot, GS. F16 has my heart.

  • @kugelblitzkrieg
    @kugelblitzkrieg Месяц назад +11

    Love that image you put up for the 1 circle, definitely would be useful for people who don’t know much about dogfighting. The camera shot was awesome too!

  • @confuse3671
    @confuse3671 Месяц назад +60

    Reality - the F23 RCS from all aspects was so low that your RADAR gun sight would have troubles keeping him locked. Think about about that for a while.

    • @MTEditz
      @MTEditz Месяц назад +8

      Thats the purpose of the dynamic gun funnel. If you don't have lock then you put the tips of each wing in the funnel and shoot. Same results, just takes a little more skill. Also not how rcs works. Once you're WVR the RCS is so close that any capable plane can get a lock. They'll just lose the lock frequently during the maneuvers.

    • @Someth1n_
      @Someth1n_ Месяц назад +5

      Not when ur eyes can see it lol stealth fighter not invisible fighter

    • @themanhimself6696
      @themanhimself6696 Месяц назад +3

      @@Someth1n_ He wasn't talking about the stealth, he was talking about ground interference.

  • @realitysux_0128
    @realitysux_0128 Месяц назад +7

    The YF-23 looks like a sugar glider in mid-flight from certain aspects

  • @MrErictank
    @MrErictank Месяц назад +6

    2:2 with a fifth-Gen, not too shabby at all.
    That third-round clip from aft of the -23 as he shot you down was GORGEOUS, though. Such a beautiful fighter.

  • @bradschumer173
    @bradschumer173 Месяц назад +5

    Yes!! more YF-23 content, please.

  • @_vortech_
    @_vortech_ Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for doing my request. I was not really expecting this would happen. It would be interesting to see how you would manage the fight if you were in the YF-23 though. Pretty sure you'll come out on top each round.

  • @harveycasey1900
    @harveycasey1900 Месяц назад +4

    That f23 looks like a flying squirrel

  • @viktorbihar5384
    @viktorbihar5384 Месяц назад +1

    I like how the 2 circle fight is visualized with the 2 best 2 circle fighters, the F-16 and the Mig 29, very cool.

  • @happysunk7142
    @happysunk7142 Месяц назад +1

    thank you for putting the 1-circle and 2-circle diagrams in the video, that's extremely helpful to see once in a while!

  • @Lew_in_Renton
    @Lew_in_Renton Месяц назад +1

    LOVE the red and blue descriptions of circle fighting! Thanks!

  • @EnvyEclipse
    @EnvyEclipse Месяц назад +2

    Small details like the camera filter makes GS vids so great haha great video brother

  • @GermanBlackSheep
    @GermanBlackSheep Месяц назад +6

    Love that replay camera overlay

  • @OutlawLotus
    @OutlawLotus Месяц назад +3

    I feel like your opponent has spent some time in the Black Widow II and mastering the unique quirks of its high lift body. The amount of ground effect such a flat belly can produce is absolutely uncanny, and there were a number of times you saw him take advantage of that. That's someone who really enjoys that plane and committed a lot of time to mastering it. That was a really entertaining fight between you two.

  • @richardstoffel6585
    @richardstoffel6585 Месяц назад +3

    I was at Edward’s when the real yf-23 was up flying with f-16’s as chase … good times.

  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi Месяц назад +12

    I like the Raptor, I really do. But it was a travesty that the 22 won that competition.

  • @jf9458
    @jf9458 Месяц назад +6

    “Flying squirrel”

  • @CarsonMiller-Raven-7
    @CarsonMiller-Raven-7 Месяц назад

    That camera effect was really cool, I would love to see that again! Also again amazing video GS.

  • @airbuzzer3306
    @airbuzzer3306 Месяц назад

    Big thank you for bringing back the dogfight. I enjoy it very much ☺️

  • @dl6519
    @dl6519 Месяц назад +3

    The YF-23 has the outlawed hourglass on the bottom! GREAT detail!!

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Месяц назад +5

      nice to see someone knows the story there and also noticed the detail.

    • @dl6519
      @dl6519 Месяц назад +1

      @@GrowlingSidewinder Nice to see someone who can turn 'n' burn with a YF-23 in an F-16 and win half the time!

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@dl6519 GS said it himself: the F-16 doesn't care what the opponent brings, it can almost always out rate them.

  • @mattbowe5618
    @mattbowe5618 Месяц назад +3

    The 1 and 2 circle graphics that you've added to the last couple of videos are helpful.

  • @iTzNexXuS
    @iTzNexXuS Месяц назад +2

    This makes me want to see a dogfight between the YF-23 and the Su-47

  • @acdfg3
    @acdfg3 Месяц назад +4

    It's always a good day when GS uploads

  • @alexhunt2322
    @alexhunt2322 Месяц назад

    The “from the ground” perspective is pretty cool! Would love to see more shots like that!

  • @Delzona
    @Delzona Месяц назад +1

    So cool to see aircraft when they are from bases that I was assigned to during my 26 years in the Air Force! Nice to see the Spangdahlem AB F-16 hold it's own against the YF-23.

  • @christopherjpfaff8460
    @christopherjpfaff8460 Месяц назад

    great match up and fight, good laughs, amazing video, thank you!

  • @libertylivesin1776
    @libertylivesin1776 Месяц назад +1

    That was some slick maneuvering before the first ending.

  • @The_Elder_Weeb
    @The_Elder_Weeb Месяц назад

    It amazes me every time how good of a pilot you are!

  • @magiscichoam
    @magiscichoam Месяц назад

    Outstanding ACM! The better Pilot prevailed (albeit barely). Bravo!

  • @TheGoddamnBacon
    @TheGoddamnBacon Месяц назад +1

    The Popcorn Cam in the second duel was a nice touch.

  • @gwenthor
    @gwenthor Месяц назад +1

    I'm really looking forward to seeing you in the cockpit of the YF-23.

  • @mbarnlund
    @mbarnlund Месяц назад

    It would be nice to have an explainer video on how to interpret ‘the funnel’ & related HUD indicators, when gunning a bandit.
    Great content as always!

  • @commandergeokam2868
    @commandergeokam2868 Месяц назад +2

    That camera effects on 8:00 + mins were golden if can use them again do it even in black and white with older aircraft

  • @Bumblebee7113
    @Bumblebee7113 Месяц назад +2

    Hey GS, if you have time in a video, could you talk about the different HUDs in different fighters? I find sometimes it's hard to follow which reticle is which when looking at the HUDs.

  • @jasonvick55
    @jasonvick55 Месяц назад +1

    Very impressive fight!

  • @zevermoon
    @zevermoon Месяц назад +2

    YF-22 is weird because it's a 2 circle vertical fighter similar to a F-15. You always want a height advantage. If you get in trouble you want to reverse into a high altitude climb followed by a roll over dive onto the bandit. It's a weird aircraft it doesn't have the thrust vector to one circle fight.

  • @Krommer1000
    @Krommer1000 Месяц назад +2

    Liked the new "Kill Cam".

  • @nielsbosmobile
    @nielsbosmobile Месяц назад

    Great video again. I always enjoy them! Btw, can you load tracer rounds in the F16? It would make it even more exciting, seeing how much rounds are off-target? Thanks!

  • @sana-cm7oc
    @sana-cm7oc Месяц назад

    Great video. Excellent fight. Great job Toxic - makes for better video having 2 good pilots. F-22 with 3 F-35 vs Su-37 and 3 Su-47.

  • @michagysin3082
    @michagysin3082 Месяц назад +1

    I love your videos so much!

  • @isaacwest
    @isaacwest Месяц назад +1

    that's the first time i've seen GS take the pylons off the wings for better performance. yf-23 had him shook. :D

  • @UpcycleShoesKai
    @UpcycleShoesKai Месяц назад

    Man, the Rate Fight does work.

  • @aytek98
    @aytek98 11 дней назад

    That reversal from YF-23 was so scary that I couldn’t help myself but scream. This thing is a sleeper.

  • @JoeKier7
    @JoeKier7 Месяц назад

    Very cool that the YF-23 has the hour glass on the bottom!

  • @ravstar52
    @ravstar52 Месяц назад

    The easiest way I have to remember the difference between one and two circle is the number of planes in the circle.
    In a two circle, there are two planes doing a circle/orbit.
    In a one circle, there's one plane per circular orbit.

  • @charlieoscar09
    @charlieoscar09 Месяц назад

    One of the closest contests so far....Both very good piloting

  • @311Bob
    @311Bob Месяц назад +2

    3 rounds switch planes each round to eliminate plane advantage and showcase pilot skill.pilots start with their favorite and end in their favorite

  • @matthewjohnson6938
    @matthewjohnson6938 Месяц назад +2

    Everyone say hi to the next best of deaths compilation vid

    • @firebald2915
      @firebald2915 Месяц назад +1

      Lately, all compliments to Martin-Baker ejection seats into the ground.

  • @sonofvirginia
    @sonofvirginia Месяц назад

    Loving the F16 videos.

  • @ScotsmanDougal
    @ScotsmanDougal Месяц назад +2

    "ejection, inverted, nto the ground ....." Isn't that your trick? haha

  • @joeldierker5982
    @joeldierker5982 Месяц назад +1

    GS's been killed so many times by the 23 that I'm surprised he isn't developing arachnophobia...

  • @Mav09
    @Mav09 Месяц назад

    F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
    Day 4

  • @SeaWasp
    @SeaWasp Месяц назад

    The YF-23 must have been equipped with the war crime targeting pod, what with the pilot snipes! Maybe that was the clincher when it came down to which aircraft was chosen. Great fights!

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Месяц назад

    Great fights!

  • @erikcourtney1834
    @erikcourtney1834 Месяц назад +1

    The black widow is literally a multi jet powered leaf.

  • @georgewashing10
    @georgewashing10 Месяц назад

    The merge on fight 3 looks like it put you in an offset 2-circle, rather than an overlapping one.

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike4150 Месяц назад

    Hey GS - Dat last fight... You got some holes in yer plane.

  • @MidnightAspec
    @MidnightAspec Месяц назад +1

    Let’s see a Checkmate vs Black Widow showdown! 😁

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Месяц назад

    Good work GS, I love the YF-23. Imagine if they used variable thrust in the trials, they had already nailed speed, stealth and range for a stealth fighter, they just didn't have the maneuverability in close combat. Considering the Government wasn't looking for a dog fighter it is such a shame that they moved the goal posts.

  • @burhanilyas
    @burhanilyas Месяц назад +1

    Fighter from 70's still ruling

  • @F23GreyGhost
    @F23GreyGhost Месяц назад

    Always love to see the YF-23. Would love to see it vs the other lifting body, the Su-57 in a dogfight

  •  Месяц назад +1

    How about the heaviest possible configuration for the F-16 versus the lightest possible configuration for the A-10 in a dogfight using just the machine gun?

  • @dominicfemminineo4223
    @dominicfemminineo4223 9 дней назад

    The commonly understood reason why GS cuts his audio after he gets KIA is that it's for theatrical effect. In my head, the real reason is that he starts shouting a continuous barrage of obsenities until juuuuuuust before he turns the audio back on for the next round....

  • @HoHum321
    @HoHum321 Месяц назад +1

    Nice little graphics for 1-circle and 2-circle. Got any showing what a split-S is?

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 Месяц назад

      Split-S is rolling inverted and sharply pulling up so that you're diving towards the ground.

  • @Kcco03_
    @Kcco03_ Месяц назад

    He did such a good job

  • @pyronuke4768
    @pyronuke4768 Месяц назад

    Now you gotta take it up against a the other 70's American dogfighter, the Hornet

  • @clothpillow7218
    @clothpillow7218 Месяц назад

    You should try Nuclear Option! It's like near-future DCS

  • @appledore
    @appledore Месяц назад

    Hi GS,
    For one of your future videos, can you fight against an F-16 with an aircraft of your choice (minus F-22 😅)?
    Would be cool and interesting to see how an F-16 can be defeated in a dogfight with only guns.
    Might be difficult, based on lots and lots of videos in which you are dominating with the F-16. But, you got this. 🤞

    • @appledore
      @appledore Месяц назад

      P.S.: Appreciate the explanation drawings. 👍

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 Месяц назад

    The silhouette of the YF-23 looks like a guy in a wing suit from far

  • @hermanlopez2945
    @hermanlopez2945 Месяц назад

    Great fights.

  • @thejetfighter
    @thejetfighter Месяц назад

    After those shots, now I know why the "Black Widow" name 😀

  • @pete79602
    @pete79602 Месяц назад

    if DCS has the f8 crusader that would be cool to see you fly it, the real last GUNFIGHTER

  • @donnieweston3249
    @donnieweston3249 Месяц назад +2

    I must say I do love the Viet Nam era camo

  • @DidWeMakeIt
    @DidWeMakeIt Месяц назад

    My two favorite planes!

  • @MiJi_29
    @MiJi_29 Месяц назад

    It's interesting that the Pentagon preferred F-22 instead of Both. 2 Different Fighter Jet Roles with it's several advantages

  • @usptact
    @usptact Месяц назад

    Toxic was sweating for sure in that black widow :D

  • @petersmith2112
    @petersmith2112 Месяц назад

    Looks fantastic although how accurate are the flight models with this type of plane (the yf-23) on DCS?
    Is it very clever people looking at the design of the plane and working out how they would actually fly?
    Whoever does it makes a fantastic job of it.

  • @radioactive9861
    @radioactive9861 Месяц назад

    I believe it was Kelly Johnson, or somebody else famous in the 'modern aircraft world'(ie, familiar with current aircraft tech) who said: "the YF23 is still flying today, in some shape or form"... That could mean a lot of things(if true), such as: the military took some of the YF23 tech and put it into the F35, or the B21, or maybe NGAD...mytwocents

  • @1slotmech
    @1slotmech Месяц назад +1

    If we're going against Toxic, I always stay for the whole video. It's gonna be a good fight. 😂

    • @vicroc4
      @vicroc4 Месяц назад

      He certainly gives GS a struggle.

  • @L1AM_20_10
    @L1AM_20_10 Месяц назад

    when you dogfight with a friend do you have to keep taking off from airbase after every round?

  • @Dancing_Duck-sp8hq
    @Dancing_Duck-sp8hq Месяц назад +2

    What’s the musical score in this dude’s vids?

  • @BladeKi11a
    @BladeKi11a Месяц назад

    Patiently waiting for to GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”