Roland's NEW KITS - TD-27, TD-27KV & VAD 506, 503 & 306 First Impressions! | The eDrum Workshop
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- Roland announced a module and 4 new kits just before NAMM started - the TD-27 module, TD-27KV kit, VAD 506, 503 and 306 - I'll give you an overview of all of these and my first impressions of Roland's new direction!
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Completely forgot to mention in the video - the TD-27 module also supports the VH-13 with a dedicated preset. Most modules below the flagships haven't offered this before now!
Hey man, love your channel. I'm curious to know your thoughts on comparing the 306 to the newer Alesis Strike Pro Special Edition. I'm looking at grabbing the Alesis, but since the 306 is the same price point, now I'm wondering what the better deal is. I hear Roland seem to be a bit more robust in the quality of their products, but for the same price point I'd be getting one less cymbal and tom, plus it has no snare stand. Any personal thoughts on this?
So take this with a pinch of salt - try your best to try these out if you can and definitely ask about for more opinions. But currently, I find it hard to recommend Alesis as I've had quality issues with their products. They've resolved a few of these on the newer versions so they might be ok, but the Roland pads at this price point should be very robust. You get many more features from the Alesis module vs the TD-17 module with the 306 so it will depend on what use you have in mind for the kit too. I've had a few issues with some Roland gear too (check out my flagship module horror stories video for more), but that was all with gear that was newer tech - the pads that come with the 306 should be reliable, from Roland's track record. So yeah, I tend towards Roland over Alesis myself.
That was all very stream-of-consciousness, hope it makes sense! Definitely try to test out what you can!
Oh, but, one thing to keep in mind - Alesis were very good with customer support when I had problems and they replaced a broken pad, no questions asked. So that's a plus in their favour. Roland will be a little more stringent, but you are less likely to need their support!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop - Hey, thanks for the quick reply and feedback! I really appreciate it. I'll try to hold off until I can sit down and have a go at the 306 before committing. Solid advice. Cheers! :)
@@Rustbukkit69 No worries! Good luck finding your kit! I'm sure you'll end up with something great!
I bought a TD27KV kit a few weeks ago. It is my first e-kit. I have been playing acoustic drums for 50 years. I own numerous acoustic drums and cymbals. I am happy with my TD27KV kit. The snare is the best part of the kit. The ride is also really good. I still consider e-kits to be toys but they have gotten to the level that I bought one. The price is high and I don't recommend that you buy a TD27 kit if you don't have the disposable capital.
Glad you're happy with your purchase! I know what you mean, many kits still can't get out of the "toy-like" space but I feel we're the closest to escaping it that we've ever been! And absolutely - I was hoping the 27 might come out at a slightly more affordable price to get more people on board but I guess I shouldn't have expected that. You still get a lot more for your money than many other options!
I've owned a TD-27KV for about a month and I really really like it. The snare drum is where its at.
Awesome, glad you like it! I hope to try one out properly some time. The digital snare really is a beast, isn't it?
Wow great and thorough Edrum news video!!! I agree with your assessment. Ideally I would love TD-27 module, the digital pads, thin crashes, the shallow 10” and 12” toms, the acoustic 14” floor tom and the KD 180L for the kick. I know it doesn’t match necessarily but it’s the most mobile and cleanest look at the lowest pro setup
Thanks Beau, glad you enjoyed it! That sounds like a pretty cool setup, to be fair! I like the idea of balancing the portability with the stage presence like that (I've tried to do similar with my own setup), hope you get the chance to make that a reality! The new shallow toms don't look too be priced too insanely (going off Roland's usual pricing, at least) so it could possibly be done by buying a VAD 503, those two pads and selling the 10" rack tom that comes with the kit as new in the box. Might not be that much more than the usual VAD 503!
Bought the VAD506 and love them. I could never get used to electronic rack kits ( TD11 / TD25 ) with small pads after playing acoustics. Expensive ..... absolutely, but they have the digital pads, so ATV or Pearl is not an option. Three issues. 1) They should have offered the VAD with a TD50 option. 2) There are three TRS connections in the cable snake that are not used when using the USB for the digital pads. So far I have been unable to use them for extra instuments. 3) Have not touched my Strat since I bough the drums ... lol.
Basically Roland is like the iPhone of eDrums xD
Pretty much! Locked off features, proprietary hardware, strange design choices and limitations, high prices!
@ Oh absolutely, I don't disagree with you. I would mostly recommend Roland gear for a lot of people and I've been accused of being a Roland fanboy before haha! Just aware of their shortcomings in certain areas that seem unnecessary. Most people could overlook the issues because of the benefits but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to improve those things, I think.
I just pre-ordered the 306. Upgraded the high hat stand to a Tama to match my ICob Double Base Pedal. I'm pretty excited about it. You are right though, they should have gone with a 16 or 18 inch ride. I tried to upgrade to the 18inch ride CY-18DR but they would't let me. I also wanted the td27module but it was way to pricey. Vs Alesis, I still think this kit is the way to go.
Nice choice! Yeah, including the new 16" ride pad would have been a great move. The CY-18DR doesn't work with the TD-17 module that comes with the 306 though - only the TD-27 or 50 support the digital pads. As you say, that would make it pretty pricey!
I love the new lines they came out with. Yes they are pricey but considering what you are getting for the price I think it’s pretty competitive. I would like to see an option to get the new acoustic shell pack without the module.
Yeah, I think it's great for consumer choice overall. As you say, it is priced around the same as much of the competition - which is less Roland-like than usual. I'd like to see that too, ATV do it with their kits. I'm not sure if Roland have much of a history of that kind of thing though, other than selling individual pads. This is probably the one time it would make sense to do so!
I like the kits. I am a DIY guy myself. The prices are so high. But the module is really something. I have played the 50 quite a few times. Those pads are simply the best the e-drum world has. I own a 17 with ATV set of cymbals. I would be interested in a snare, ride, 27 package and what they want for that.
I agree about the digital pads! I've managed to get a decent job with the Mimic, a 3 cone snare trigger and BT-1 for cross-stick but it's still not as good. I think a 27 digital pack will be great, just depends how they end up pricing it. drum-tec were offering one but it wasn't that far off the 50's digi pack price. Not sure if there's an official bundle price yet.
Still playn my yam dtx3 yes wit blk rub pads .ms50 wit 2 sat,speakers...bought them brand new bak wen came out .i wish roland wud make sum sat,speakers
I'm going 306 and buying the TD27 module for it. I don't really want the big giant cymbals of the others and won't miss the digital pads, but I have the option to move to future digital pads.
Sounds like a good combo!
Supposedly via Drum-Tec they have offered a video that shows the 50 module utilized for the unit. However I don’t know how the 27 module is as far as customizable options and I’m also not sure with the cable snake how you would go away from it without having to replace the cables with individual ones, my issue with E drums are the machine gun sounds on the toms, however I’m not sure what the mounting system would be for the 50 module to fit, some people say too the 30 module will work with it based on forum posts. The best part is the cymbals for this kit. Regardless, 3999 for the 3 piece kit, I’m sold, I can always swap the module and add to it or run a piggyback module
Yeah, I saw that drum-tec video! Was good to see that the VAD stuff appeared to work fine with the 50 without any new trigger presets! You're right about the cable snake, if you wanted to replace the 27 with another module like the 50, you would need new cables!
I think the 50 would fit fine on the rack with the usual Roland mount on it. The TD-30 will likely work with the new VAD pads like the floor tom and cymbals if the 50 does, but they probably won't be "optimised" - you also wouldn't be able to use the digital pads with the 30 as it doesn't support them at all. So it would either be running the 27 and 30 together to use the digital pads, or using the 30 with some VAD parts but a different snare and ride!
Finally!!! Roland has made acoustic sized drums! I will be purchasing the toms and cymbals!! I kinda figure that Roland was going to do something big! I emailed them several months ago about making a out sized drums and they were evasive about their answers (just stay tuned!). I am a HAPPY camper!!!!!
I emailer them about making acoustic sized drums
Ah yes, I think I've seen your posts before about hoping for acoustic sizes! I was beginning to think maybe they wouldn't do it but I'm personally glad they have too. I probably won't be buying any, but I'm glad the option is there for people!
Though I might possibly buy one of the cymbals down the line... 😅
I’ve been wanting to make my kit look like an acoustic sized kit. Many people were saying Roland wouldn’t do it and to look at purchasing ATV, Alesis, Jobeky or Drum-tec. I’m a pro-touring drummer and I have to have equipment that is quality, roadworthy, reliable and durable. That’s why I have stuck with Roland! Yes Roland is DAMN expensive, but it is quality equipment!!! That is one of the reasons why you see so many touring drummers using their products!!!
Yeah, all very understandable! Some other manufacturers do make really sturdy gear but, as you say, you see Roland products used on huge productions all over the place for a very good reason!
I LOVE these kits and I'm getting the VAD506 at the end of this month and I'm so stoked. I shouldn't need another kit cuz this appears to have all I need and more.
Hope you enjoy it!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I'm sure I will :D
The part I’d like to understand on the td27 is the 28 ch midi USB . I saw a vid somewhere on day 1 and they were going through the kits on the little screen and occasionally I’d see the word EZ drummer! So I took a leap and figured that I could chose a preset from SD3 or EZ or the module presets. Even better they have a foot switch! It was invaluable to me on my TD20. Everything else about new module is awesome! From DrumTec with Sound Edition it’s € 1300. $1441.00 . I have no prices yet for the USA module only. But maybe $1500...? The best kit , VAD506, I’ve seen for $4800. The price is right for the extraordinary Kit. I can imagine my SD3 presets coming out of that and a pair of good monitors. The Alesis 12” floor wedges as a pair are getting rave reviews and on sale at Sweetwater for $600 for a pair. What a great combination for $5400. This would be my ultimate kit. I’d convert my 16x14 floor tom for this kit. Perhaps wrap in chrome foil. It wouldn’t hurt the look. I’d only stop playing to eat sleep and pee !!
Yeah, I'm not too sure on the 28 channels on the USB or what application it specifically has. Will have a look over the manual at some point. I think you might be right on the US price but hopefully that info will be available soon.
The kit configuration you're thinking of sounds pretty sweet, you reckon you'll take the plunge?
Yes, I’ll have to take out a loan. I’d do it though. It is $4800 here. The delivery time from DrumTec is 20 weeks as of today. Wow. This may turn out to be the most popular kit Roland ever made. There will be extra floor Tom etc available soon. Saw that on Drumtec this morning
That's quite a wait time! Hopefully it ends up being a bit shorter!
Hey, can you tell me what hi hat stand you're using for the kits?
I have an old TD-nine.
Both my ride, and my crash are acting up. So I need to replace those.
I’m thinking of keeping my rack, toms, high hat.
I want to add the module, snare, ride, and crash. What do you think of that idea?
Depends if you are just annoyed about your pads acting up or if you want a proper refresh/upgrade. If you like the look of the module and the digital pads, it's certainly a decent option! The digital pads play very well! It will ultimately rest on the balance between what you want and need!
Would love to see how the TD27 stacks up against the TD50 now
It's not all that far off, in my opinion. I'll have to fully look into just how many sound-shaping options there are but I think this is a real contender for a lot of people. If you don't need all of a flagship's features, this will get you really close for much less money.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop im going to buy the new module just so i have separate nipple knobs for all volumes.
Roland better issue a update for the 50. Only 2 rides for the cy180r? Only 5 a bank snares? Then they come out with td27 which sounds like it has many different rides and snares ect.
@@bruceperkins2921 I wouldn't hold out much hope, myself - the TD-17 released with more variety in sounds than the 50 too and they didn't bother updating the 50 then. It's a shame but I would be very surprised if they did.
I’m looking into TD27 or VAD306...which would you prefer? I wish the VAD306 had the td27 module then it would be sold!!!
Personally, if the budget was there, I'd go with the 27. The feature set is much better than the TD-17 and the digital pads are next level! Cheers!
If you were hard pressed, what would you choose - the ATV aDrums (expanded set) or the Roland VAD-506? I’m trying to decide between the two for our Church, which is revamping all of its sound equipment, including the drums. I’d love your thoughts, please!
Ahh, it's a tough one! If you're thinking about getting them with the modules, personally the digital snare that comes with the Roland is the best snare pad I've ever used - the playability is something else. And although the Roland sounds aren't as nice, I didn't get on all that well with the aD5 module. It sounds great but there was something about it I couldn't put my finger on (I tried my best to explain it in my video about "Why Your eDrums Can Feel Weird"). However, I didn't have the chance to try the aD5 with all ATV gear, I believe it plays the best paired up with their own kit, as you would imagine, so take that as you will.
Definitely try your best to trial them before buying, but if you can't, listen to as many sound demos as possible to see what you'd be happiest with sonically. Neither option will be bad, both would be very worthy contenders!
The eDrum Workshop Thanjs for responding in a timely manner. Do both modules work as an interface? I’d like to eventually upload and use Superior Drummer 3.
No problem! The TD-27 definitely does act as an interface, but I don't think the aD5 does. From what I remember it only has midi over USB, but your best bet to confirm that is downloading a copy of the manual to check! It's been a while since I had one.
I wish there was a funtion, that when you start to play, first four hits on pads sets the tempo on metronome that will start to play after those 4 shots. Would be nice for me as my tempo is literall shite when i play drumless songs.
Ahh yeah, that would be a helpful feature! Wonder if that's ever been done before. Lots of things have a "tap tempo" option, I see no reason this couldn't be implemented on eDrum pads easily.
Better you learn how to control your tempo me thinks.
Should I buy the vad306 or td-27kv?
If you can, get the td27kv. The vad306 looks nice but you’re still with the td17 (which isn’t bad but quite thin in comparison to td27 sounds) which if you sticking with module sounds, go with the 27. If you plan to go VST, then stick with vad306, it looks nicer than the “practice pad kit” look of the 27kv. Plus with the 27, you get the digital snare and ride, which once you play, you will never go back to analog pads.
Hi I have had my Roland VAD506 for about 6 months now and one of my crash cymbals has stuck on one instrument and doesn't coke any more, I'm not a hard hitter, is there something I can do myself on the module or does it sound like it's a warranty issue,
Great reviews thanks Mark Brimecome 👍
Hey Mark. That definitely sounds like a warranty issue. I've heard of a fair few instances of these newer Roland cymbals having issues with their edge switch and this sounds similar.
Would it be possible to use the VAD506 pads and cymbals with the Pearl mimic instead of the TD-27 module?
Yeah, should work fine!
Do you hear any preference for DrumTec 20” bd over the Roland bd?
I don't know specifically for that size drum-tec one, but as far as mesh heads with padding vs the Roland KD-220/200/180 style goes, it'll come down to personal preference really. I've heard a lot of people having different opinions really. If you've ever tried Roland's KD-8 rubber pads or the KD-9, apparently those large Roland kick drums feel almost identical, but with a bit more give in them like an acoustic head would have. I personally use a drum-tec Pro (very thick single ply head) on my 16" DIY kick with a KD-120 replacement foam pad inside and an Evans fabric kick pad which feels really good for me. So definitely difficult to recommend without trying things out and seeing what works!
Can you use Bluetooth headsets, like Bose 700 series on this kit?
The Bluetooth available on the newer Roland modules is for streaming the audio into it to play along to. Unfortunately, you can't use Bluetooth headsets/headphones with any kit as there would be too much latency - Bluetooth just isn't fast enough yet to receive the audio from playing the kit without delays. You'd hit the drum and there would be a noticeable lag before you hear it.
I think the 306 is the best one, really good for the gigging drummer. Having a digital snare and no mic placement option seems really bad, in the GAK video the roland guys says its not an option, I personally think the VAD series is a bandwagon jump but its one that has to be done now cant leave it any longer, but the TD27 module looks like a capable piece of kit, the TD27 with pdx100s is good, its most of a TD50K with a nice low price and it will have better cymbals if the CY-T range is included, its only taken 18 years for roland to make a decent change to their cymbals, and even then its a marginal change, still half a cymbal with no 360 degree triggering, I think I might have expected to much but more digital pads out there can only be a good thing
Took me a moment then, thought you were saying the 306 is using the digital snare and I was about to check I hadn't accidentally told people that on the video! 😅 But I agree that the 306 actually looks like a much worthier contender than people are probably thinking. It's going to get overlooked for a while due to the buzz of the TD-27 module, but it's a nice little package. The TD-17's probably Roland's best starter module and with a nice shell pack, it's pretty attractive.
Oh but unfortunately the TD-27KV only comes with a CY-12 and CY-13, not the lovely new cymbals. Has the CY-18DR of course though.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop yeah I should have full stopped it haha you get a little bit of stage presence with the 306 which always let the usual range of td17 down, they always looked plastic and framey unless you go down the drumtec route, the 306 changes that, shells like that on a mid-tier kit.
@@MrMikeydrum Yeah, I agree there! Having a low-level module with a more interesting kit design is really good for the market, I think. Until this, basically every low-end kit looks unimpressive and samey.
306 seems best by far for bang for buck, and also the best pads. The 506 and on are not going to feel as much like real drums, they are way heavier I think because if the layers of mesh, and all the electronic components on top of the full size shells that normally j uh st hold a thin piece of plastic. The shallow shells look awfully realistic to play in feel, I will know in about 45 days.
Is Td-27 module better than Td-50?
Witch module do you prefer?
Thanks for the video!!
I wouldn't say it's outright better than the TD-50, but it could be better suited to certain needs. From what I've heard, although the sounds won't blow anyone away, they're a bit more useable out of the box than the TD-50's. A lot of people would get more value for their money from the 27 than they would get in benefits from the TD-50, the 50 is much more aimed at power users and people who want the full sound options.
Personally, I'd probably say I prefer the TD-50 overall as I have it and know what it can do but I'd have to use a 27 to know for sure!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks!!
I bought a Td-50 10 days ago. I think I'm going to return it and buy the new VAD506.
Do you think it's a good idea?
Hmm, it's difficult to say for sure! Are you dissatisfied with your TD-50? What do you aim to use the module for? Gigs, just for use at home, triggering VSTs? Would you prefer your kit to look more like an acoustic? Also, I'm not sure exactly when the VAD line launches, I know in the UK that shops have the TD-27KV in stock but not the VAD yet!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop I like the TD-50k, it is a premium kit. I bought it 2 weeks ago and I have 4 days to return it. I have been valuing different kits and when I have finally bought it, the new VAD506 set has come.
I like the acoustic structure of the VAD506. The PD-140DS is the same. The pads of the VAD506 are larger. I don't know if the quality of the KD-200 is better than KD-120BK.
CY-18DR is the same. I am more convinced by CY-14R-T and CY-16R-T than CY-12C and CY-13R. They are lighter and the CY-16R-T is larger.
Do you think VH-11 is better than VH-10? I have not tried the VH-10.
My main question is the module. TD-50 is more advanced than TD-27. It would be nice if VAD506 is available with the TD-50k module, but it will be very expensive.
I want to play at home and with friends. I like TD-50k but I think it's a good idea to consider these new drums. In Spain and in internet stores they can have the VAD506 in 5 months.
I am starting in the world of E-drums. I've played acoustics before.
@@gdb4424 Yeah, the digital pads are the same, but of course the module makes a difference too! The new cymbals are very enticing, I agree!
I've only very briefly tried the VH-10 but it is functionally almost identical to the VH-11 but lighter, so there's not any real benefit to the 11. It looks like Roland will phase the 11 out now, to be honest.
Yeah, using a TD-50 with the VAD drums will be very expensive! If you don't think you'll get the full use out of the TD-50, I think the VAD 506 looks like a very good option. If you can stomach waiting for the VAD, it will probably be very good if you are happy to have a more limited module. It does sound a bit more useable out of the box too, so that's nice. Depends how much you are into tweaking sounds!
I've been waiting for a LONG time for Roland to release something like this...but honestly now that everyone else has done this and there is so many options, I'm not too impressed. They definitely waited a little too long, I don't know why they thought edrummers don't want an acoustic ekit lol maybe not all but c'mon. But any competition is good. Price seems pretty good but need more interesting colors! There must be a big daddy "TD60" in the works. Putting together a A2E after getting bored with the TD50 Upgrade, might keep the digital stuff and see if they finally release a digital HH BUT I don't wanna get locked into Roland's ecosystem too much.
Yeah, I know what you mean with them taking their time about it. I've got some thoughts on that, will be putting it into another video once I've fully worked out exactly what I think haha! And I agree that the pricing isn't quite as OTT as it usually is for Roland. Although the sounds aren't as exciting as they could be, the digital pads being part of the mid-range is probably the biggest asset, and it'll be a very attractive kit to those who weren't yet convinced about eDrums and needed a company they've heard of to finally cater to the acoustic-alike kit market. And VST users will get a lot out of it.
I imagine there will be a new flagship down the line but I don't think it'll come quite as quickly as people are hoping, I feel like there'll be a few more years in the TD-50 yet. Could be wrong though, who knows what they're planning! I hope a digital hi-hat happens but it's seeming more like wishful thinking as time goes on.
All i wanna know could it do 808 with fx 🤔🤔
Definitely!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ok will buy the vad503 or 506 then
„These Names are very Awkward“
*laughing in Ibanez*
I think the 506 should have come with the vh13
It would definitely have added to the "acoustic" look and provided some great value!
The photos wiggling made me think i have a stroke lol.
Haha sorry about that! Been trying to make the pictures a bit more interesting if nothing is going on but if it makes people feel weird I'll find another way 😅
@@TheeDrumWorkshop oh no i dont mind it mate, it was just funny.
Oh good, glad it's not actually horrible haha
Hello everybody!
Thx for new video .and channel !
Did you hear a presets kit sound this module?
I worn ... and a little disappointed Something the sound seemed somehow freshish to me, there is not enough depth to the volumes, and the sound of its small attack dry sound in most of the sets as if the toms were well damped there are not enough overtones (it seems so called) there is no sound out of the box ...like td 15 .17. 30 I compared with sound 17 module . i've td 17 kvx ^-^ the sound is deeper, immediately from the first blow, the whole depth and a palette of sounds are heard , while both 27 and 17 are made on the basis of 50, but sound, sound is what we buy electronics for =)
Td 27 - function YES
Sound - NO !!!
Yeah, I've heard the presets. I think they're ok compared against the current crop of Roland modules, but I know what you mean. Most of them definitely sound like they are pretty dry - hopefully that's just the presets and there's enough wiggle room to increase the overtones if you want to. It's definitely a kit that offers a lot more function than the usual mid-tier Roland modules - it's probably going to be the best playing experience with a VST for the price!
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Yeah ,hope it ...module settings correct sound.
But...td 27 copy sounds of td 50,and we all know about users Not Good reviews about 50 sounds ,dont want td 27 copy this "dark" history)
I know the TD-50 has reputation for bad sounds and I agree that out of the box, it doesn't sound very nice. You CAN make very good sounds for it though (one of my inspirations for this channel!) so hopefully that translates to the 27 - there aren't as many options to tweak, but the source samples do sound a bit better than the 50's source samples, so fingers crossed. I'm interested to try one out to see what I can do with it.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Wow)
Great, it would be very interesting if you can configure it and hear what 27 settings module is capable of!
Fingers crossed I'll get hold of one at some point!
ATV are the new market leaders. They've set the standard for edrums and Roland has just now caught up, borrowing many of the same ideas. Given how many people from Roland, including the original founder, work for ATV now, it's not crazy to see they are taking over. Clearly, the people at ATV have recognized Roland's weaknesses (price and realism) and targeted them, while also adopting Roland's standard of quality and triggering tech. ATV kits are more affordable, have acoustic sizes, and put emphasis on acoustic sounds in place of gimmicky features. There's a reason so many people use VSTs. ATV understands that the main concern with most drummers, regarding edrums, is to replicate an acoustic set. It isn't worth wasting money and resources on extra gimmicks. It's more worthwhile to devote everything to replicating acoustic sound and design.
I think ATV have made a huge impression on the industry, but I'd struggle to call anyone other than Roland the "leader" due to sales and brand recognition alone. I know what you mean though - ATV have seemingly lead the way on a lot of innovations. Will be interesting to see if they can keep that up - I really hope so, but it looks like things may not be too great behind the scenes for them at the moment and they appear to be struggling to bring things to market. Fingers crossed that they manage to work around it and keep on bringing great products out as, like you say, it feels like they've got a good handle on what they want to deliver and a lot of people like their approach.
Nice to hear a Yorkshire accent for a change!!!
Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm from Lancashire! 😅
Interesting, but these are all meh for me. Happy for drummers out there that like to use fullish size drums, but that ain't me. I am hoping, however, more beginners out there will give up and put these up for sale used so I can get barely used digital snare and ride for frickin cheap!
Ah yes, I believe I've seen you expressing your love for smaller pads on Facebook! Understandable, they're not going to be for everyone! I've got a video about A2E conversions and their popularity coming up soon and I go into why some people don't like them, there's a chance I've used your viewpoints as inspiration haha! I'd like to see more digital pads around on the second hand market for good prices too, don't snap them all up!
You don't have to look any further than FB Market Place or other sources for used E-Drums to see the landscape is littered with cheap rubber pad kits that people buy and then become disillusioned with lack of performance both from the pads and the modules. It is very painful to plop down 3g or more for electronic drums, but you get what you pay for. If your claiming your income from gigs on your taxes, this is just a write off, or take an accelerated depreciation. Roland kits hold their value better than 90% of most other companies out there. I am going to go with the VAD306. Someone let me know if they ever go on sale or when they would go on sale. Roland does need to shrink their product line or offer mix and match. Let Alesis and Simmons duke it out in the mud pit.
Looks like I need a small loan of a million dollars
Haha pretty much! They always manage to out-price your budget, no matter what it is!
.... But roland sounds embarrassing to me you arnt hearing drums :/ i know the ad5 is more limited, BUT what you have is very nice.
When scrolling through for sounds you say oh.... Thats a nice snare.
Rather than.... Oh.... That sounds like a snare.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was torn with the aD5 as I really liked the sounds on listening to them but there was only one snare I actually enjoyed playing. I usually have to approach Roland's sounds from knowing how they play with their trigger engine - they don't sound amazing but there's something about the relationship with their own triggers that helps it feel good to play, and in a mix they tend to sound good enough for the job. But I agree overall, the aD5 sounds way better comparitively! In short, eDrums are weird 😅
@@TheeDrumWorkshop i hear you i had an old td3 which was ok but funnily enough the new vad dosnt sound any different from the td3, plus still no 360 triggering and the kick is just a glorified rubber tower
Don't know why this comment got flagged as possible spam, really weird! I suppose Roland's tech doesn't really progress as much as we'd all like, but I'd personally say that the new 27 module on these kits does sound nicer than the TD-3. I remember that module well and it definitely didn't play dynamically at all! The digital pads are a huge improvement too. I know what you mean with the kick, it's basically a kick tower supplanted into a head. I've only tried one very briefly but it does feel pretty satisfying to hit!
I just don't understand why ppl would pay 5k for a electric kit when you could spend about 2000 on an acoustic kit and get so much more out of it. Like you are paying 3k more to have a gimped setup.
With that being said I do own a Roland td07 kit. Which is great for practice and that's all I really can see these electric kits are good for, practice.
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