Another banger! Love the addition of the scale, and the rocker/ camber profiles too. If I may, one more detail I think would be useful to include is a comment on the mount point. Let it snow!
For my vote, I do actually care a good bit about color. On the whole wall here, if probably rule out half of these for color, which is, a bummer for me, but also makes deciding easier haha
I 100% shop visuals when buying skis. The skis on my short list are the Bent Chetler 100, Fischer Ranger 102 (Pink) and QST 106. I've also really been considering the Raccoon Grizzly. Skis and bindings need more colour!
Thanks guys! Based on the comments, you guys may want to consider adding a brief disclaimer to future comparison videos mentioning why you have a limited selection here. Seems like every other comment is asking why you didn't include the Barracuda Excalibur RAD 102XY Surfing Edition etc. Regardless, keep it up! And please do a bargain basement video if you have the time and motivation.
Hey guys, super appreciative of all of the roundups you've put out. Really well thought out and a great introduction to nearly every ski on the market. I picked up a pair of Ripstick 106 blacks last season on a stellar deal from you guys. Seriously came in clutch as I had just massacred my old sticks and was in desperate need of a solid replacement. Couldn't be happier with the skis I ended up with.
Have bought a pair of 106 Black Ripsticks in 188 and can't stop loughing and shouting when using them!!! By far the best offpiste ski I've ever had!!! I'm a quite tall and heavy guy with a quite aggressive skiing style which brought me to this ski based on your review! Have mounted an Atomic Shift 13 on it and have already done an 1.800hm Powder backcountry tour with it here in Austria - just PERFECT!!!!? Many thanks for your really cool videos!!!!!
Greetings from the UK. Thanks for these videos! Always so informative and I know winter is coming when these videos pop up on RUclips! Why no review of the Line Sakana in this group? Also, are Scott still making skis? Can't see them in this group or the 90mm ski group.
Yup, they make some good ones too. We just have never included the brand in these comparisons and I can't even really give you a good reason why. We carry the brand, but we don't have as much from them as the brands in these comparisons.
Kastle FX106/ZX108 - I have spent extensive time on both and am keen to try the new Ti version. My sense on the previous HP was it was/is a superb ski with enough stability for all but the hardest chargers while being a wicked balance of lively and smooth and the best 105 ish carver I have ever been on. If the Ti has more top end and simular balance its going to be a winner for a lot of folks but likely less versitile for those who want a touring or combi binding setup which is where my 2020 FX106 is likely headed. The ZX108 is shockingly good for the $ and its now my go to in part due to sizing as I run it the 191 vs 184 in the FX106 (I'm 6'1" 190lbs). Its got a touch more top end and float and more edge hold than I would ever expect for a ski with no carbon or metal. While the ZX is supposedly a more new school ski it's really just a bit looser and needs to be driven a touch less than other Kastles. I also mounted mine 1" ahead of the Gen Z line as the mount point was way further back than the FX106 or even my MX99....Imagine Kastle has updated the ZX mount points for 2022 but something to consider.
Thanks for chiming in with your experience, Chris! Love skiing the ZX skis, and also, yes, I agree, the new FX is going to be a winner for a lot of skiers. Curious, have you skied the ZX 100 yet? Super fun, similar to the 108, just that much quicker edge to edge.
@@SkiEssentials No time on ZX100 yet but the Rep here in BC loves it as his daily driver. He prefers a more playful ski and something he can ski with his kids not just his guy friends an ZX100 is all smiles for him.
Just want to start by saying you guys are doing a great job with these reviews keep them coming! In the market for a new pair of skis. I am 31 6’0” 180lbs. I ski primarily east coast (Stratton , Mt Snow, VT etc). However I do take at least one trip out West a year. I would say advanced intermediate mainly directional(ski every trail, bowls trees etc.) I am not a park skier but I do like to take some jumps every now and then and want to learn switch. Love tree skiing. I currently ski a narrower all mountain ski. Looking for something a little more fun but still able to handle east coast groomers as well as some moderate pow. I was interested in the Volkl Revolt 104’s or K2 reckoners but worry that they may be to park orientated for my style. I was also looking at the Enforcer 104 or the Fischer ranger 102 which seem better for stability and directional skiing. But I worry they will not be as playful or fun. Any recommendations much appreciated.
Hey Sean! I'm a big fan of all 4 of the skis you listed, each for slightly different reasons, but two of them stand out to me as being good options for you. The Reckoner 102 and Ranger 102 both have very well-rounded performance for the terrain and conditions you're going to be skiing. Before we get into those, I can explain my thoughts about the other two. The Revolt 104 has very long rocker, which makes it less responsive. Super fun in the park and in soft snow, but I wonder if it would satisfy you on firmer snow days here on the east. The Enforcer 104, on the other hand, is kind of heavy for your current level. Not the easiest for learning to ski switch and stuff like that, mostly just due to its weight. Now, back to the other two. The Ranger 102 might be the best option if you're looking for a relatively even mix of performance characteristics. Playful and fun, but strong and with good edge grip too. The Reckoner 102 is a much softer-flexing ski, but still holds an edge well thanks to the Carbon Spectral Braid construction. It's actually a really cool feeling as the ski will bend a lot in a turn without washing out. Reckoner 102 would almost definitely promote quicker progression, especially things like skiing switch, but the Ranger 102 would be more supportive of high speed skiing, which it sounds like is something you enjoy too. Hope that helps. Sometimes after I answer these questions I wonder if I've just given you more to think about...
@@seancarton230 Should work great! Going with the 177 cm will keep them a little more agile and playful, while still benefitting from the increased stability of that ski compared to some of the others.
Love the vids y’all!! Will we get a touring specific review?? Like the rest of the world, I’m looking to get into touring and am interested in what’s best for a 50/50 resort/touring setup Thanks!
+1. Would be great if they mentioned which bindings would go well with a 50/50 (or perhaps 75/25) resort/touring setup. For those of us who aren't able to keep multiple pairs of skis in storage, suggestions for a complete one-ski resort & touring quiver would be super helpful. Thanks for all the hard work Skiessentials!
It's on the list! It's somewhat far down the list in terms of priority, but it is something I'm hoping we can get to. Realistically we only have 3-4 more weeks of comparisons, then we'll be busy skiing, testing, and doing all that fun on-snow stuff.
Common question. We've considered including Faction multiple times and just haven't pulled the trigger. I'd say it's the most likely addition to future videos, but no guarantee.
I just discovered you guys, and, WOW! Great reviews. I am updating my equipment this decade. I currently ski 2009 Armada ANTs in 191. 62 year old, 6'-1" 230#, advanced lifetime skier looking for something lighter (what isn't) and more playful, but still able to go fast/charge. Also, need some float for the days we get some deeper stuff here in Vail/BC and Aspen. My ANTs are tough in the trees and bumps but have made them work for years. Considering the K2 MB 108ti and the Nordica Enforcer Free 110. Which of these, or another would you recommend? Thanks!
As a longtime Aspen skier I would say check out the Blizzard Cochise or the Dynastar M-free 108. Both come in a 192. The Cochise is going to be more directional and more stable down high speed groomers like Ruthies but the M-free is going to be the ski you want in the Dumps or in anything off of Bell. Both are exceptional skis though.
Just replied to you in 2 other spots as well. For anyone interested in what my reply was, here you go: They're definitely in the same category. Both are strong freeride skis. To me the biggest difference is in the tail shape. The Enforcer uses a lot more tail rocker, which allows for a more smeary/surfy feel. The tail of the Mindbender is flatter, so requires a little more unweighting to get it to come around, particularly in technical and tight terrain. On the other hand, I think it's fair to say you get more feedback and a little more snap out of the Mindbender tail. So, kind of prefers whether you want a ski that's going to feel looser and more drifty (Enforcer) or more precise with more responsiveness out of the tail (Mindbender). *You mentioned float here specifically, and I thought I'd ass that the Enforcer 110 does feel like it floats better. A lot of that has to do with the longer rocker profile. Sethvicious brought up some cool skis too. I don't expect the Cochise is what you're looking for, but the M-Free 108 is a good one to consider. It basically feels like the Enforcer 110, but if you took the metal out of its construction. Lighter, softer flexing, etc.
I thought I commented on this already. I noticed how you were talking about the TI and the the QST. Bob mention Breck Peak 8 and blasting through the crud. Breck is what I skied and it is what I broke my arm on with the QST 106 x 188. Those skis went through anything but it took so much of my energy to turn them. I also mentioned that I broke my arm going from the top of Peak 6 to the bottom of Peak 8. I was skiing through some trees and moguls to get me to home. I popped out of the binding on the top of a mogul. I think even if I would have gone with the 181 it would have been too much of a ski for me. Perhaps the powder days where I can make really long radius turns. The skis I bought are DPS Wailer F100 RP x 184 with the 15m Radius. I am hoping that I can make lots of turns with those skis going down the Bowls on Peak 8 through the crud. When Bob was talking about blasting through the crud was he saying short radius turns or long radius turns? I have seen your videos on the DPS skis and what I heard you say is the swing weight is light. I want something that I could even jump turn if it gets too cruddy.
I think you'll like the DPS. I'm a huge fan of that 100 with the RP shaping for pretty much any and all conditions and terrain. Would be a great Breck ski for sure. Have fun! SE
@@SkiEssentials I think also what I am learning is how well the tails release. Even if the turning radius is larger as long as I can get on and off my edges or perhaps pivoting. Especially tight areas, trees, or when there are a lot of people.
Hi there! Which of these skis would you consider to be the most approachable / best suited for an advanced intermediate skier (confidently ski all blues, most blacks, can carve but my technique probably needs honing)? Thanks and keep up the great work!
Rustler 10, Ripstick 106, Kore 105, Origin 106, Sender, QST 106, Blaze 106... all approachable skis for someone in your position and all with a high performance ceiling, in other words, skis you can grow into without them being too demanding at the start.
Love your videos fellas - it’s really helpful to hear you dissect each ski in a discussion format like this. I am having a hard time deciding between Ripstick 96 Blacks and Enforcer 100… I’m an aggressive skiier 5’ 8”, 140lbs so my one concern with the Enforcers is the weight, but don’t want to sacrifice stability at speed. 80/20 East, West coast skiing… any thoughts? How should I think about deciding between these 2?
Hey Ryan! Both of those skis are great, as I'm sure you already know. I do, however, think you'll get more versatility out of the Ripstick 96 Black and I don't expect it will lack any stability at your size. I'm only 10-15 lbs heavier than you, but I never had an issue with stability in the 96 Black. Some of our heavier testers (~220 lbs) found some limitations at higher speeds, but for us smaller guys, it's a non-issue. I do love skiing the Enforcers, but they're on the heavier side, and since weight is a concern of yours, I think it makes sense to stick with the Elan. Hope that helps!
Skiessentials.com Thanks for the reply - very helpful and found myself leaning in this direction as well. One more Q around sizing if you don’t mind… thoughts on 172 or 180 length given my size and abilities? I know Elan’s can run a little short… 172s are right around forehead height, 180s a touch overhead I think.
@@ryanburg6139 either would likely be fine, since you want the ski to ride aggressively i'd for the 180, might be like an inch taller than you. Whats the longest ski you've had or ridden before?
I've owned the previous two versions of the Line Sick Day 104, and I have loved it for about five years. Based on your review, I am looking at the Blizzard Rustler, DPS Pagoda, Nordica Enforcer or the Ripstick Black as my target options (or that beautiful Kastle, but $). I am closer to Bob's size. Am I on the right track for a Sick Day replacement?
Definitely, especially if you want to improve stability at speed a little bit. The Sick Days aren't quite as strong as the Enforcer or Ripstick Black in particular.
I'm a lighter guy 5-5, 145 and absolutely love the Free 104. I demoed it in a 179 and it was a blast even though I would get it in the 172, I live in the midwest. It carves exceptionally well for a wide ski, is not difficult to flick around if that is how you ski and is damp but not a dead ski. I will be getting that ski when my NRGY 100s used up.
I ski on the QST 106 as my backcountry touring ski. Then on a trip last year I got to try a DPS Wailer 112, the playful and forgiveness of the 15m radius was something I definitely enjoyed on some variable backcountry conditions. I plan to throw some Switch bindings on the QST's and then get a new pair of skis to use in the backcountry. I'm looking for something a little lighter and a bit easier to maneuver at slower speeds. The Blaze 106 was suggested? Are there others I should be considering? These reviews are awesome!
Blaze 106 and I'd add the Ripstick 106 into the equation too. Backland 107 is certainly worth considering too. Blaze and Ripstick both feel like great options, however. Hard to go wrong with either of those skis.
Nice round up! But am I missing something or is there another category coming? Conspicuous by their absence - Salomon QST 98, Liberty Origin 101, Dynastar M-Free 99
We will probably do a mid-90 and also a 100 actually. So, no, you're not missing anything, we just like to bounce around a little bit in the order in which we release these. Bob and I talk about it quite a bit and we feel like going from 90 to mid 90 to 100 all in a row would be a little boring because there's a lot of crossover between those widths. This season, we're going 90, mid-100, mid-80, then probably will circle back to mid-90 or 100 next week!
I don't see a lot of difference in legnth, width, and side cut? Though my Equipment is so very old, with pointed tip 207cm GS Racing skis. Much narrower then these modern days, but a great ride at around 50mph, super stable.
It might not seem like it at first glance, but there's big range in ski performance o this wall. Differences are more subtle these days, but you can change a ski a ton just by moving around the widest point, rocker profile, flex pattern, etc.
Guys, thanks for perfect overview. What skis do you consider most similar to Corvus Freebird? I'm looking for something really stable - the one line a day kind of skiing.
I think the Kastle FX 106 Ti has a lot of similarities. Both have flatter tails and are designed to be supportive and trustworthy in tricky situations.
Great info!! Im looking to replace my soul 7 HD, i use them mainly as my powder skis and some touring with shift bindings. considering this info what would you recommend between the QST 106, blaze 106, Backland 107 or RIpstick106 . Basically im looking for similar float and agility since i really enjoy them but if they are more stable its a bonus. Thank you for your help!
Hi Diego! We've recommended the Ripstick 106 as a Soul 7 replacement to a number of skiers and everyone has been really happy. Similar float, similar agility, but more stable and a little smoother. The Blaze 106 would be my other recommendation among that group, but it does feel a little different. Longer radius, longer rocker. The Ripstick is closer to the Soul, IMO. Hope that helps and my apologies for the delayed reply!
I am 48y, 6'5, ~230lbs, have a Salomon XDR 88 TI and look for a forward ski for the resort - no tour. Before I had Race Slaloms... Speedwise I do on the groomers around 45mph with good control. I guess Sender TI in max length might be best?
Where were the bindings mounted when you tested the Reckoner? What mount point would you recommend for someone who does mostly all mountain but wants to learn to ride switch and maybe do a bit of rail action? Would the the mid sole mount hinder riding switch or buttering on the tip or tail? Definitely don’t want to lose the playfulness of the ski
Hey CB! I replied to your other comment too. I think for you the mid sole is probably the best for now. It's still relatively centered, but will give you better directional performance. From your other comment it sounded like directional performance was still really important, so that's why I'm thinking mid-sole. It will still allow you to play around in the park and learn to ski switch and stuff like that.
I want to get the Rustler 9 I'm 5'7 130 in between expert and intermediate and ski the east but I'm a little nervous the rustler might be two heavy. Am I right
Hello! Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I certainly don't think a Rustler 9 would be too heavy. It's not light on the scale, but because the metal is focused close to your feet, it reduced swing weight. I would go 172 for length if I were you. Hope that helps!
You guys are very nonweldable, it is actually impressive. Great work. Quick question (if possible) - how come the line vision 108s didn't make it to your wall?
Hi Lucas! Likely inventory. We review what we sell, and we probably didn't have the 108 in stock at the time of production. It certainly made our initial cut of skis to include, and fits quite well in that zone--right there with Dynastar M-Free 108, Kastle ZX 108, Volkl Blaze 106, and Armada Tracer 108 in terms of light weight, energy, and soft-snow versatility. SE
Hey Andrew! We had some shipping delays from Line this fall and just didn't have them in the building for this comparison. We did work some Sick Days into later videos.
Great video once again. You reviewed the dps koala 103 on its own but it didn’t make it into this comparison. Is there something behind that? How would this ski stack up?
Hi Derek! I do not think we had it available at the time of filming. If we did, it would at least be on our cursory list. It's got some weight to it, so feels quite stable for having neither metal nor carbon in it. It's amazing what they get from wood and fiberglass in the Foundation build, and the shape of the 103 is on the fun side like the Ranger 102. SE
Have you guys reviewed or personally skied the Faction Prodigy? The 3.0 is a 106 and has some decent reviews. Curious your thoughts. Great content overall and big fan out here from NorCal.
We don't get on the Factions as much as we'd like--normally only on industry days versus the more vendor-specific ones we do here in VT. We've liked the Candide's and the Dictators over the past few seasons, but haven't gotten on the Prodigy yet. We have a few more quiver videos lined up, likely mid-winter--it's actually a lot of work to get someone on all of their skis and get good footage!
Hey guys, tahoe skier 190lbs, not super aggressive but prefer off piste and trees with the ability to still carve. Picked up a pair of Ripstick 96s recently based on recommendations but im starting to worry they'll be too narrow for most off piste days when theirs fresh snow. What are the performance differences between the 96 and 106? Would the 106 be a better daily or stick with 96 and get a wider companion ski for big dumps? Rode Rustlers 10s daily last season and really loved the playfulness and forgiveness but wanted more carve. Rode 11s on a few fresh powder days, really liked them and would consider them again as a pow ski but also wondering if the 106 or something similarly would cover enough ground for both.
Hi Allen! I personally would stick with the 96 then get a wider ski for big powder days. Rustler 11, Ripstick 116, something in that mid-110 underfoot range. The Ripstick 106 would be a good choice if you only wanted to have one pair of skis, but if you can manage, you'll get a bigger range of performance out of owning two pairs. More appropriate for the fringe conditions, so to speak. You'll have the correct tools for low snow days and deep days, rather than something that works, but isn't the ideal tool.
Tough to pick a real winner as they're all a ton of fun. The lighter skis and/or the skis with the most rocker are going to feel the most playful for the majority of skiers, but there's a lot of variety from skiing style and stuff like that.
I always am looking for natural jumps, always searching for powder (in resort), and want something playful but still strong enough to stomp big landings and charge through spicier terrain. Ive been on revolt 104s nordica enforcer 104 bc 120s and mantra m5s. I would grt the BC 110s if I didnt have to wait until after summer. But i need something now. BC 100, revolt 104 etc but worry that they might not provide the technical terrain performance or stability i might end up needing .. not sure what to get and where to go... sorry for the long paragraph i appreciate your time.
@Homayoun Infantes they were pretty good. Not a ton of camber which decreased hardpack/icy performance a bit but overall pretty good. I think the bent chetlers would probably have better icy/harpack performance due to more camber. But the revolts would hold up fine.
I’m looking for one of those “bridges” between all-mountain and freeride skis. I’m 5’11 165lbs. I’m torn between the enforcer 104, rustler 10, Fischer 102 FR. Love to play in the trees, back bowls, and want something that can also handle the powder. Would say I spend my time 10 percent in the park too. Any thoughts on which direction I should go?
All 3 of those skis are great. Enforcer 104 is the strongest, so if you're an aggressive skier or someone who likes to ski fast, that might be the best choice. Rustler 10 is the easiest to ski, but isn't as stable. The tips and tails are very soft, so it can get bounced around a little more, but less aggressive skiers or those who prefer moderate speeds tend to prefer it over the Enforcer. Ranger is kind of in between in its overall feel. It's more responsive than both, but overall stability, forgiveness, etc is basically right in between. I'm around your size and own a pair of Enforcer 104, which I love because I can point them anywhere and they go right through anything, but they are more fatiguing than a Ranger or Rustler. Hope that helps!
Hi Andrew! We have done some testing on J Skis, just never released any reviews. We're friends with Jason Levinthal, and we do get a lot of requests for reviews, so you may see some down the road.
So im an East Coast skier as well. How would you say the M-Pro compares to the O.G Armada Invictus 108's (187) or the Dynastar XXL Pro's from the mid 00's. I use the XXL Pros for 1-2 days after big storm to help drive and blow through the crud instead of ski around it. Plus I'm a bigger guy (weight wise) as Bob.
Heavier, stiffer. The M-Pro really is a ridiculous ski, at least in my opinion. Even more ridiculous than the XXL Pro. I personally wouldn't want to ski it on the east coast. It just wants to make such a big turn shape it limits what terrain it feels good in. Maybe ripping giant turns on east coast groomers, but that feels kind of one dimensional. I think there are better skis in that category (Cochise 106, Katana 108) that are plenty powerful, but slightly less ridiculous than the Pro Rider.
They aren't overkill if you are a larger person and a good skier, or regular sized and great at skiing. I feel like if you are even thinking about them, you probably can ski them. Just know their limits before going into it. They are a must own if you have a quiver and ski at mountains like Snowbird, Palisades Tahoe, Jackson Hole. I could almost go as far to say they are a must own if you live on the west coast USA/Canada in general. Just stay out of moguls and tight trees. They are heavy, the turn radius feels even longer than it's stated on paper.
@@aev4918 I just got a pair. I'm 6ft 220 and ski 100 days at Snowbird. I'm looking forward to them. But I probably won't be sporting them until Jan. I think they might be too unwieldy early season when one's skill level is lower than normal. I can't imagine why there is a single pair of them east of the Mississippi.
As much as I want one of these freeride/powder oriented skis I feel that I've got to get a more front side oriented ski like the Brahma first. These seem like they're a bit too similar to Bent Chetler 100 in terms of general application and that's my only ski worth it's salt right now.
I agree. If you already have a Bent Chetler 100, a narrower ski would be a better complement. There's a lot of cross over in this category with the BC 100.
I'd love to own a ski in this category but as a New England skier it just seems unrealistic. It goes against your advice of get the ski for the conditions you ski not the conditions you want to ski. So... I guess i'm going to buy ice skates. Kidding aside, I will end up getting my east coast powder skis at some point even if I only get to use them a few times per year.
Having a ski in this width range is perfectly reasonable for a New England skier! You might not ski it every day, but if you have the means and can afford multiple pairs of skis, it's awesome having a wider ski for softer days.
We have found there to be up to about 100 gram difference possibilities between both scales and skis. Differences in wood grain, amount of glue and epoxy used can all make up about 100 grams either way.
I currently have the rossi experience 88…looking to add another ski for my all mountain/soft snow use around 100-106mm width. Intermediate/advanced skier 5”9 160lbs. Looking for something playful, turns easy, smeary better for powder & trees. Any suggestions? Thx for the videos!!
Ripstick 106, Blaze 106, Reckoner 102, Rustler 10, QST 106... those would all be really good options. Work well for lighter skiers, all have plenty of float, and all have a relatively easy, approachable feel. Hope that helps!
To many choices ;). Ok im a powerrider. Like long turns, low position. Going touring as well. Which one should i go for. As far as i have now looked into different models it looks like i should choose between faction action 3.0, fischer ranger 102, head kore, armada tracer 108. Like that the faction is so light but is it enough stabile? Ranger is a bit heavy for touring, Head kore is mega stiff, armada not so stabile or? Help me ;)
Hey! My first instinct is Ranger 102. If you love high edge angles and big high speed turns I think you'd love it. Kore feels too light and stiff for your description, Faction too light too, and Tracer might not have the stability you're looking for. What about Ripstick 106 Black? Lighter than Ranger, but just as strong and loves to make big arcing turns. At least another to consider, although I don't expect you'd be disappointed with a Ranger.
Hello! I am thinking of buying a touring and powder/playful complement ski for my Enforcers 93 that I've owned for a few years. I love my enforcers and plan to keep them for the firmest iciest days but I need touring and powder ski. I have been looking at the ripstick 106 a lot because of the float, agility, and edge grip(for the weight and size.) I am a pretty light skier at 70 kg 154 lbs so I think that they will provide enough stability and dampness for medium-high speeds. My previous experiences with lighter skis are my uncle's pair of Armada Tracer 98 with Shift. They are at 188 cm which is 1 length too long for me, I could still throw them around in a tight forest though. They didn't give me that edge grip and dampness as my enforcers do though(unsurprisingly.) Do you think that the 180 cm Ripsticks 106 with a Shift would be a good choice for me? I have also been looking at the black edition but since the normal one is cheaper and I already have the enforcers I think that getting a more contrasting ski compared to my enforcers would be beneficial. Adam
HI Adam! I think you'll find enough ski in the blue 106, especially since you're likely using it in softer snow with the Shift. It's a smooth floater with good rebound--a whole lot of fun. Even at higher speeds, I think you'll do just fine on the Blue 106, and it's a great complement to that Enforcer. SE
100% we would, and I really like that ski. Unfortunately there's a bit of delay in Liberty's shipping right now and we didn't have one on hand to show. We've actually talked about doing a separate Liberty comparison if their skis are delayed much more. It has some similarities to skis like the Ranger 102, QST 106, and Enforcer 104... Good mix of stability and maneuverability, especially with the new VMT 1.0 construction. Probably would be best described as closest to the Ranger 102, just a little wider.
How would you guys compare the Fischer Ranger 102 to the Dynastar M-Free 108 (in about the 177-182cm range)? Obviously you’re gonna get some more float out of the Dynastar, but I’m curious about how they are in trees and tight terrain? Looking for a real “ninja stick” that’s better to throw around and pop in variable conditions, fresh snow, trees, and moguls than the Cadillac of the old enforcer 100 which I ski on everything right now. The enforcer can be a bit tiring in tight terrain. Does the Ranger 102 overlap too much with the enforcer to make sense buying? Which ski did you guys have more fun on?
We were actually really impressed with the 108's combination of flotation, agility, and energy. The Ranger is not quite as playful, but is a darn good floater and has really good on-trail performance. It falls short of the smoothness and power of the Enforcer, but that's not really its target audience. I think it's a different enough ski to warrant the two, but the Dynastar is likely a better complement.
Do you think the Fischer Ranger 102 FR is a good first ski to be used only for off-piste? I already have an on-piste ski. I have good skill level on-piste but never tried off-piste and gonna start this season. My only concern is that I am a heavy guy(100kg) and I wonder if 102 would be too narrow to float someone my weight. Most of my ski will be done in Europe(Austria, Italy, France and Switzerland). What do you think ?
I actually think that's a great choice for your size and your current ability level. It will be easier for you to manipulate and control than heavier skis, but should still be supportive for your weight. I think it'll be a nice ski for you to start exploring more technical terrain and softer snow conditions.
Dude, I have the same parameters to start and I went for quite firm Scott Scrapper 115 / 189, it has -13 stock mount point with a huge rocker. FR102 is even firmer and that may be a show-stopper. Not much of a rocker in FR with 102 may make you drown. Will be no butters 4 granted. I recommend you smth wider or at least with some fine rocker. Aint forcing 110+ as for uncomfy shin & knee feel due the day @ slope. FR102 is for a trained killer with some speed attitude. Responsibly recommend some uni-chiller like rip106. Have fun!
@@Al-sk4nz Stiffer, yes, but the Ranger 102 FR has such light swing weight that I think it's a perfectly reasonable choice. I do, however, agree that the Ripstick 106 would also be an excellent choice.
@@Al-sk4nz I guess being firm should not be a problem because I'm a powerful skier, besides my 100kg, I hit the gym quite often and have very strong legs. My Elan Amphibio 18ti2 is quite stiff and I have no problem bending it, so in this case I guess the Ranger 102 should not be a problem :) I never saw the Ranger in person, but although it's the rocker doesn't look like the biggest one ever, seems quite good to me. Did you ski on that one too ?
The Corvus is quite a bit heavier and sturdier. If big lines and fast speeds are your thing, then I'd go Corvus, but for more of a plotted course, I like the light weight and snappy nature of the Backland.
I'd put it in with the K2 Reckoner 102 in terms of playfulness and snappiness, Revolt 104 is another good choice. Very fun, playful, and round turns with some drifty stuff in parts.
Either of you ever tried a pair of ON3P's? Curious what your thoughts are since they went from a non existent company to now a semi common ski at my resort.
I've been on a handful of ON3Ps. They make some cool skis, some interesting shapes too. We haven't done much actual testing on them, but it would be fun to add them to the mix sometime... We'll see what we can do.
Hey, guys. Wondering about your thoughts on the 106 black ripstick vs the 96. I'm 6' 210 skiing the northwest and mountain west, mostly trees, off piste & bumps. I order a pair of the 96 but after watching your reviews I'm thinking I should probably cancel and go w/ the 106's.
Hey Jeff! I don't know that you need to cancel and go with the 106... Could you? Sure, but you don't necessarily need to. The 96 is still really good in soft snow and off-piste terrain like bumps and trees. In fact, sometimes, it's better, like when you haven't had any significant snowfall in a few days. So, think about that. If you're in deep snow often, maybe the 106 would be better. Otherwise, I'd just enjoy the 96!
Ripsticks have a softer flex pattern than the Evolv skis, even the Black Editions. That combined with the rocker and taper shape gives the Ripsticks a more maneuverable feel, especially in soft snow and/or more technical terrain. The Evolv 100 is a little more powerful overall, particularly in its vibration damping and how well it tracks through choppy snow. It's more fatiguing and not as easy to ski in technical terrain, however.
Length suggestion for Rustler 10 or QST 106? Advanced skier, Utah based, 6’2” 180lbs. 188 too much? Rarely chasing lines in the trees - more seeking open spaces, mandatory bumps (no choice, ha), etc
Hey Loren! No, not at all, I don't think 188 cm is too much, especially if you're not in the trees much. Both those skis have a nice amount of tip and tail rocker, so even in the longer lengths, they remain relatively forgiving and not overly fatiguing.
HI Dave! Didn't have it in stock to show, but certainly right up there with the 106's like the Elan Ripstick or the Dynastar M-Free 108. The Origin has a nice round shape, and that translates well to how it turns and behaves--it's very playful and smeary, but still has that metal strut running the length of the ski to give it some power.
Hey! In PNW looking for a ski between my enforcer 94 and k2 obsethed 117... looking for conditions up to 1ft powder and heavy wet crud. Fischer 102, rustler 10, enforcer free 104? Thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Hi! I think I answered on another thread, but you'll get most of the same experience on the 104 as the 94, just more playfulness and flotation. Rustler and Ranger are a bit lighter and with lower swing weights, so they float a bit better, but they don't quite have the high-end on the groomers or for when the snow gets rugged.
Hi guys. I have Enforcers 104 186cm and love them. I tried Mindbenders 108ti 186cm and they felt too long, just like you said. I am 5'10", 190lb. I bought MB 108 in 179cm length and here's my question: where should I mount the bindings, so they would feel similar to my Enforcers mounted at the recommended line? Thank you!
Just haven't worked them into the mix just yet. We've done some testing on Faction and are always considering new brands to add. I often say they're a likely addition to our mix someday...
We currently don't do enough testing on Faction skis to include them in these comparisons. We may someday, but now that Candide is leaving the brand, we may not... Very curious to see what Candide does next, and Faction does make great skis, so we'll have to see.
I typically ski on the east (holiday, 7 springs, pknpk) but every other year I head out west to Vail area. I stay in bounds majority of the time, ride basic tree paths in the woods and like to hit small jumps, ride switch, and basic rails/boxes. I go in the back bowls when in vail for a day or so. I’m torn on what type of ski I should get. I’m leaning towards the ARV 106, but the revolt and sir Francis are also skis I want to consider. Am I missing anything? What do you think?
ARV 106 and Revolt 104 both feel like great choices for how you ski and what you like to do. Both are fun in the park, both are relatively versatile around the whole mountain, and both can handle softer snow conditions when you go out west. Sir Francis Bacon is really soft and IMO not as well rounded. It's a great powder ski, but has some limitations on firmer snow. I personally would consider the Ranger 102 and Reckoner 102 as well. A little narrower, but still very versatile and very fun for all the terrain you like to ski.
Good one! The thing that sticks out to be about the Liberty is the smoothness and roundness of the shape, and how that affects the turn. What you see is what you get. It's a fun and playful ski that makes some of the roundest turns and plays in soft snow with an incredibly smooth personality. The QST is a bit blockier--it is a great floater for its width due to the extended tail rocker, and with the additional weight, it's great at busting through crud and being a powerful ski. For more of a freestyle/slashy/smeary ski, the Origin is fantastic, but for more aggressive skiing through the deep and crud, I'd go QST.
Our Line order was actually delayed unfortunately. We initially wanted to include the Sick Day 104, but unfortunately had to leave them out. You should see Line in some future comparisons as I do believe at this point they've shown up.
The 106 is very floaty and fun, but lacks the top-end power of the Enforcer 110, which is just a very strong ski for crud and chop at speed. The 106 doesn't quite have the same speed limit, but when it comes to soft snow flotation and all-mountain versatility, the 106 is the best on the list. I'd say it's closer to the Rustler 11, but still not there.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks for this, how's edge hold on ice for the QST 106 vs something like a 110 enforcer & the 100, also how does it handle groomers? I'm also debating the Unleaded 108, but not sure about the rocker lines. Going to the Dolomites/ Chamonix for 2 weeks in Dec / jan and my GF and I are only taking 1 ski so I'm looking for a 1 ski solution. She has the enforcer 93's and 104 frees and is debating between the 2.
@@bryand6094 Enforcers, with metal, are generally going to grip better, with the 100 being the best of the bunch. Unleashed is definitely more of a twin-tip influence more than freeride in terms of rocker, but I do think that adds to the grippy nature of the ski. I'd say for a two-week stretch in Europe, the 104 Free is the way to go. Have a great time!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks that makes the choice clear for my GF what she will use. Im in between sizes on the enforcers with the 104 rocker profile in 179 being to short for my liking but 179 in the 100 is excellent. With the QST 106 would you say the older 2022 design had more on piste grip / camber than the newer 2023 model? Or is the crud busting of the newer 2023 better?
Nope, we're not an Icelantic dealer and don't really test their skis very often. Last time I skied a pair, unfortunately, I was very underwhelmed. I know a lot of people like the Nomad, and I'll give it another try sometime this season.
For the comic value alone, I think putting the monster Dynastar M-Pro under the Christmas tree for myself would send my entire family into an uncontrolled inability to breathe laughing fit at lunatic dad trying to kill himself.
Lots of skiers on the east have skis in this width range! I (Jeff) have the Enforcer 104 in my quiver, Bob's widest ski is the old Pinnacle 105 from K2.
4FRNT is almost exclusively direct-to-consumer, so in other words, we can't really sell their skis. We do have some good friends that work for the brand, however, so maybe we'll try to do some testing on them this season.
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Another banger!
Love the addition of the scale, and the rocker/ camber profiles too. If I may, one more detail I think would be useful to include is a comment on the mount point.
Let it snow!
Thanks Bob! We'll try to work in mount point discussions whenever applicable.
Thanks guys! For the Powder skis review please include Salomon QST Blank 112. Looking forward to watch your review
The Blank will certainly be in a comparison. We have a full review of it too from this past season if you haven't seen that already.
Ooooh baby! Love this time of season! 🤞hoping for a powder ski wall this year
We started this series earlier this year, which should give us more time to get to different categories, like giant powder skis.
Awesome comparison video, as usual! You guys rock. Thanks!
Thanks Alan!
I wish all reviews were like this.
For my vote, I do actually care a good bit about color. On the whole wall here, if probably rule out half of these for color, which is, a bummer for me, but also makes deciding easier haha
I 100% shop visuals when buying skis. The skis on my short list are the Bent Chetler 100, Fischer Ranger 102 (Pink) and QST 106. I've also really been considering the Raccoon Grizzly. Skis and bindings need more colour!
Thanks guys! Based on the comments, you guys may want to consider adding a brief disclaimer to future comparison videos mentioning why you have a limited selection here. Seems like every other comment is asking why you didn't include the Barracuda Excalibur RAD 102XY Surfing Edition etc. Regardless, keep it up! And please do a bargain basement video if you have the time and motivation.
Hey guys, super appreciative of all of the roundups you've put out. Really well thought out and a great introduction to nearly every ski on the market. I picked up a pair of Ripstick 106 blacks last season on a stellar deal from you guys. Seriously came in clutch as I had just massacred my old sticks and was in desperate need of a solid replacement. Couldn't be happier with the skis I ended up with.
Thanks Cullen! Very happy you're enjoying your Ripsticks! Such a great ski... See you out there!
Have bought a pair of 106 Black Ripsticks in 188 and can't stop loughing and shouting when using them!!!
By far the best offpiste ski I've ever had!!!
I'm a quite tall and heavy guy with a quite aggressive skiing style which brought me to this ski based on your review!
Have mounted an Atomic Shift 13 on it and have already done an 1.800hm Powder backcountry tour with it here in Austria - just PERFECT!!!!?
Many thanks for your really cool videos!!!!!
Awesome to hear! Have a great winter.
Dedicated to the craft. Really useful stuff guys, we appreciate it.
Thanks Matt!
Nice work, might be the year of the Ripstick for me. Always a tough decision, every year! But you guys make it easier to decide.
I got the Ripstick 106 last year. By far, the funnest ski I've ever been on 🤙
Greetings from the UK. Thanks for these videos! Always so informative and I know winter is coming when these videos pop up on RUclips! Why no review of the Line Sakana in this group? Also, are Scott still making skis? Can't see them in this group or the 90mm ski group.
Yup, they make some good ones too. We just have never included the brand in these comparisons and I can't even really give you a good reason why. We carry the brand, but we don't have as much from them as the brands in these comparisons.
Had the vantage 107 for a few years and was also really surprised by how much it ripped in thinner snow, was my daily driver for quite awhile
The Backland 107 has a lot of those qualities, just in a lighter weight. Head Kore 105 is another one that comes to mind as a suitable comparison.
Kastle FX106/ZX108 - I have spent extensive time on both and am keen to try the new Ti version. My sense on the previous HP was it was/is a superb ski with enough stability for all but the hardest chargers while being a wicked balance of lively and smooth and the best 105 ish carver I have ever been on. If the Ti has more top end and simular balance its going to be a winner for a lot of folks but likely less versitile for those who want a touring or combi binding setup which is where my 2020 FX106 is likely headed. The ZX108 is shockingly good for the $ and its now my go to in part due to sizing as I run it the 191 vs 184 in the FX106 (I'm 6'1" 190lbs). Its got a touch more top end and float and more edge hold than I would ever expect for a ski with no carbon or metal. While the ZX is supposedly a more new school ski it's really just a bit looser and needs to be driven a touch less than other Kastles. I also mounted mine 1" ahead of the Gen Z line as the mount point was way further back than the FX106 or even my MX99....Imagine Kastle has updated the ZX mount points for 2022 but something to consider.
Thanks for chiming in with your experience, Chris! Love skiing the ZX skis, and also, yes, I agree, the new FX is going to be a winner for a lot of skiers. Curious, have you skied the ZX 100 yet? Super fun, similar to the 108, just that much quicker edge to edge.
@@SkiEssentials No time on ZX100 yet but the Rep here in BC loves it as his daily driver. He prefers a more playful ski and something he can ski with his kids not just his guy friends an ZX100 is all smiles for him.
Just want to start by saying you guys are doing a great job with these reviews keep them coming! In the market for a new pair of skis. I am 31 6’0” 180lbs. I ski primarily east coast (Stratton , Mt Snow, VT etc). However I do take at least one trip out West a year. I would say advanced intermediate mainly directional(ski every trail, bowls trees etc.) I am not a park skier but I do like to take some jumps every now and then and want to learn switch. Love tree skiing. I currently ski a narrower all mountain ski. Looking for something a little more fun but still able to handle east coast groomers as well as some moderate pow. I was interested in the Volkl Revolt 104’s or K2 reckoners but worry that they may be to park orientated for my style. I was also looking at the Enforcer 104 or the Fischer ranger 102 which seem better for stability and directional skiing. But I worry they will not be as playful or fun. Any recommendations much appreciated.
Hey Sean! I'm a big fan of all 4 of the skis you listed, each for slightly different reasons, but two of them stand out to me as being good options for you. The Reckoner 102 and Ranger 102 both have very well-rounded performance for the terrain and conditions you're going to be skiing. Before we get into those, I can explain my thoughts about the other two. The Revolt 104 has very long rocker, which makes it less responsive. Super fun in the park and in soft snow, but I wonder if it would satisfy you on firmer snow days here on the east. The Enforcer 104, on the other hand, is kind of heavy for your current level. Not the easiest for learning to ski switch and stuff like that, mostly just due to its weight. Now, back to the other two. The Ranger 102 might be the best option if you're looking for a relatively even mix of performance characteristics. Playful and fun, but strong and with good edge grip too. The Reckoner 102 is a much softer-flexing ski, but still holds an edge well thanks to the Carbon Spectral Braid construction. It's actually a really cool feeling as the ski will bend a lot in a turn without washing out. Reckoner 102 would almost definitely promote quicker progression, especially things like skiing switch, but the Ranger 102 would be more supportive of high speed skiing, which it sounds like is something you enjoy too.
Hope that helps. Sometimes after I answer these questions I wonder if I've just given you more to think about...
Thanks a lot ! I went with the Ranger 102’s and ordered from you guys. I went with the 177’s, hopefully they don’t feel to short for me.
@@seancarton230 Should work great! Going with the 177 cm will keep them a little more agile and playful, while still benefitting from the increased stability of that ski compared to some of the others.
Yes, love it!
Love the vids y’all!! Will we get a touring specific review?? Like the rest of the world, I’m looking to get into touring and am interested in what’s best for a 50/50 resort/touring setup
Thanks!
We do plan on having a touring comparison this year, yes!
+1. Would be great if they mentioned which bindings would go well with a 50/50 (or perhaps 75/25) resort/touring setup. For those of us who aren't able to keep multiple pairs of skis in storage, suggestions for a complete one-ski resort & touring quiver would be super helpful. Thanks for all the hard work Skiessentials!
You guys should do a freestyle/twin tip 2022 comparison
It's on the list! It's somewhat far down the list in terms of priority, but it is something I'm hoping we can get to. Realistically we only have 3-4 more weeks of comparisons, then we'll be busy skiing, testing, and doing all that fun on-snow stuff.
Hi guys, love the vid! how come you guys never talk about Faction ski?
Common question. We've considered including Faction multiple times and just haven't pulled the trigger. I'd say it's the most likely addition to future videos, but no guarantee.
Out of all these skis mentioned, all great skis, I’m looking forward to the 2022 faction line up the most!!!
I just discovered you guys, and, WOW! Great reviews. I am updating my equipment this decade. I currently ski 2009 Armada ANTs in 191. 62 year old, 6'-1" 230#, advanced lifetime skier looking for something lighter (what isn't) and more playful, but still able to go fast/charge. Also, need some float for the days we get some deeper stuff here in Vail/BC and Aspen. My ANTs are tough in the trees and bumps but have made them work for years. Considering the K2 MB 108ti and the Nordica Enforcer Free 110. Which of these, or another would you recommend? Thanks!
As a longtime Aspen skier I would say check out the Blizzard Cochise or the Dynastar M-free 108. Both come in a 192. The Cochise is going to be more directional and more stable down high speed groomers like Ruthies but the M-free is going to be the ski you want in the Dumps or in anything off of Bell. Both are exceptional skis though.
Just replied to you in 2 other spots as well. For anyone interested in what my reply was, here you go:
They're definitely in the same category. Both are strong freeride skis. To me the biggest difference is in the tail shape. The Enforcer uses a lot more tail rocker, which allows for a more smeary/surfy feel. The tail of the Mindbender is flatter, so requires a little more unweighting to get it to come around, particularly in technical and tight terrain. On the other hand, I think it's fair to say you get more feedback and a little more snap out of the Mindbender tail. So, kind of prefers whether you want a ski that's going to feel looser and more drifty (Enforcer) or more precise with more responsiveness out of the tail (Mindbender).
*You mentioned float here specifically, and I thought I'd ass that the Enforcer 110 does feel like it floats better. A lot of that has to do with the longer rocker profile.
Sethvicious brought up some cool skis too. I don't expect the Cochise is what you're looking for, but the M-Free 108 is a good one to consider. It basically feels like the Enforcer 110, but if you took the metal out of its construction. Lighter, softer flexing, etc.
I thought I commented on this already. I noticed how you were talking about the TI and the the QST. Bob mention Breck Peak 8 and blasting through the crud. Breck is what I skied and it is what I broke my arm on with the QST 106 x 188. Those skis went through anything but it took so much of my energy to turn them. I also mentioned that I broke my arm going from the top of Peak 6 to the bottom of Peak 8. I was skiing through some trees and moguls to get me to home. I popped out of the binding on the top of a mogul. I think even if I would have gone with the 181 it would have been too much of a ski for me. Perhaps the powder days where I can make really long radius turns.
The skis I bought are DPS Wailer F100 RP x 184 with the 15m Radius. I am hoping that I can make lots of turns with those skis going down the Bowls on Peak 8 through the crud. When Bob was talking about blasting through the crud was he saying short radius turns or long radius turns? I have seen your videos on the DPS skis and what I heard you say is the swing weight is light. I want something that I could even jump turn if it gets too cruddy.
I think you'll like the DPS. I'm a huge fan of that 100 with the RP shaping for pretty much any and all conditions and terrain. Would be a great Breck ski for sure. Have fun!
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@@SkiEssentials I think also what I am learning is how well the tails release. Even if the turning radius is larger as long as I can get on and off my edges or perhaps pivoting. Especially tight areas, trees, or when there are a lot of people.
Very very interesting review fr skis
Hi there! Which of these skis would you consider to be the most approachable / best suited for an advanced intermediate skier (confidently ski all blues, most blacks, can carve but my technique probably needs honing)?
Thanks and keep up the great work!
Rustler 10, Ripstick 106, Kore 105, Origin 106, Sender, QST 106, Blaze 106... all approachable skis for someone in your position and all with a high performance ceiling, in other words, skis you can grow into without them being too demanding at the start.
Love your videos fellas - it’s really helpful to hear you dissect each ski in a discussion format like this. I am having a hard time deciding between Ripstick 96 Blacks and Enforcer 100… I’m an aggressive skiier 5’ 8”, 140lbs so my one concern with the Enforcers is the weight, but don’t want to sacrifice stability at speed. 80/20 East, West coast skiing… any thoughts? How should I think about deciding between these 2?
Hey Ryan! Both of those skis are great, as I'm sure you already know. I do, however, think you'll get more versatility out of the Ripstick 96 Black and I don't expect it will lack any stability at your size. I'm only 10-15 lbs heavier than you, but I never had an issue with stability in the 96 Black. Some of our heavier testers (~220 lbs) found some limitations at higher speeds, but for us smaller guys, it's a non-issue. I do love skiing the Enforcers, but they're on the heavier side, and since weight is a concern of yours, I think it makes sense to stick with the Elan. Hope that helps!
Skiessentials.com Thanks for the reply - very helpful and found myself leaning in this direction as well. One more Q around sizing if you don’t mind… thoughts on 172 or 180 length given my size and abilities? I know Elan’s can run a little short… 172s are right around forehead height, 180s a touch overhead I think.
@@ryanburg6139 either would likely be fine, since you want the ski to ride aggressively i'd for the 180, might be like an inch taller than you. Whats the longest ski you've had or ridden before?
not sure if its possible to get hands on one yet, but curious how the Season nexus compares to this sweet lineup
Mine just came in! Hitting the mountain at the end of the month with those bad boys. They look amazing.
I've owned the previous two versions of the Line Sick Day 104, and I have loved it for about five years. Based on your review, I am looking at the Blizzard Rustler, DPS Pagoda, Nordica Enforcer or the Ripstick Black as my target options (or that beautiful Kastle, but $). I am closer to Bob's size. Am I on the right track for a Sick Day replacement?
Definitely, especially if you want to improve stability at speed a little bit. The Sick Days aren't quite as strong as the Enforcer or Ripstick Black in particular.
I'm a lighter guy 5-5, 145 and absolutely love the Free 104. I demoed it in a 179 and it was a blast even though I would get it in the 172, I live in the midwest. It carves exceptionally well for a wide ski, is not difficult to flick around if that is how you ski and is damp but not a dead ski. I will be getting that ski when my NRGY 100s used up.
I ski on the QST 106 as my backcountry touring ski. Then on a trip last year I got to try a DPS Wailer 112, the playful and forgiveness of the 15m radius was something I definitely enjoyed on some variable backcountry conditions. I plan to throw some Switch bindings on the QST's and then get a new pair of skis to use in the backcountry. I'm looking for something a little lighter and a bit easier to maneuver at slower speeds. The Blaze 106 was suggested? Are there others I should be considering? These reviews are awesome!
Blaze 106 and I'd add the Ripstick 106 into the equation too. Backland 107 is certainly worth considering too. Blaze and Ripstick both feel like great options, however. Hard to go wrong with either of those skis.
Nice round up! But am I missing something or is there another category coming? Conspicuous by their absence - Salomon QST 98, Liberty Origin 101, Dynastar M-Free 99
Mid-90s is their most popular/competitive category comparison. That should be coming up.
We will probably do a mid-90 and also a 100 actually. So, no, you're not missing anything, we just like to bounce around a little bit in the order in which we release these. Bob and I talk about it quite a bit and we feel like going from 90 to mid 90 to 100 all in a row would be a little boring because there's a lot of crossover between those widths. This season, we're going 90, mid-100, mid-80, then probably will circle back to mid-90 or 100 next week!
8:50 more of these, please! ❤
Okay!
I don't see a lot of difference in legnth, width, and side cut? Though my Equipment is so very old, with pointed tip 207cm GS Racing skis. Much narrower then these modern days, but a great ride at around 50mph, super stable.
It might not seem like it at first glance, but there's big range in ski performance o this wall. Differences are more subtle these days, but you can change a ski a ton just by moving around the widest point, rocker profile, flex pattern, etc.
Guys, thanks for perfect overview. What skis do you consider most similar to Corvus Freebird?
I'm looking for something really stable - the one line a day kind of skiing.
I think the Kastle FX 106 Ti has a lot of similarities. Both have flatter tails and are designed to be supportive and trustworthy in tricky situations.
just get the corvus freebirds....
Are you guys ever going to have moment skis? They would be great for this category!
We've been talking about trying to work in some brands like Moment. Nothing set in stone yet, but it could certainly happen.
Great info!! Im looking to replace my soul 7 HD, i use them mainly as my powder skis and some touring with shift bindings. considering this info what would you recommend between the QST 106, blaze 106, Backland 107 or RIpstick106 .
Basically im looking for similar float and agility since i really enjoy them but if they are more stable its a bonus.
Thank you for your help!
Hi Diego! We've recommended the Ripstick 106 as a Soul 7 replacement to a number of skiers and everyone has been really happy. Similar float, similar agility, but more stable and a little smoother. The Blaze 106 would be my other recommendation among that group, but it does feel a little different. Longer radius, longer rocker. The Ripstick is closer to the Soul, IMO. Hope that helps and my apologies for the delayed reply!
@@SkiEssentials Thank you!!
I am 48y, 6'5, ~230lbs, have a Salomon XDR 88 TI and look for a forward ski for the resort - no tour. Before I had Race Slaloms... Speedwise I do on the groomers around 45mph with good control. I guess Sender TI in max length might be best?
Yeah, I'd go longest length at your size. That ski will be a ton of fun for you!
Where were the bindings mounted when you tested the Reckoner? What mount point would you recommend for someone who does mostly all mountain but wants to learn to ride switch and maybe do a bit of rail action?
Would the the mid sole mount hinder riding switch or buttering on the tip or tail? Definitely don’t want to lose the playfulness of the ski
Hey CB! I replied to your other comment too. I think for you the mid sole is probably the best for now. It's still relatively centered, but will give you better directional performance. From your other comment it sounded like directional performance was still really important, so that's why I'm thinking mid-sole. It will still allow you to play around in the park and learn to ski switch and stuff like that.
27:48 Jeff, did you just say, "in the gram scheme of things"? Ha!
...maybe.
I want to get the Rustler 9 I'm 5'7 130 in between expert and intermediate and ski the east but I'm a little nervous the rustler might be two heavy. Am I right
Hello! Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I certainly don't think a Rustler 9 would be too heavy. It's not light on the scale, but because the metal is focused close to your feet, it reduced swing weight. I would go 172 for length if I were you. Hope that helps!
You guys are very nonweldable, it is actually impressive. Great work.
Quick question (if possible) - how come the line vision 108s didn't make it to your wall?
Hi Lucas!
Likely inventory. We review what we sell, and we probably didn't have the 108 in stock at the time of production. It certainly made our initial cut of skis to include, and fits quite well in that zone--right there with Dynastar M-Free 108, Kastle ZX 108, Volkl Blaze 106, and Armada Tracer 108 in terms of light weight, energy, and soft-snow versatility.
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Great job! no Line Sick Day 104?
Hey Andrew! We had some shipping delays from Line this fall and just didn't have them in the building for this comparison. We did work some Sick Days into later videos.
Nice recap guys! is the length of the Fischer 102 FR a 184 at 2000 gm?
Yup, that's a 184, although the weight came out closer to 1940 g, the scale was acting up a little at that point.
Great video once again. You reviewed the dps koala 103 on its own but it didn’t make it into this comparison. Is there something behind that? How would this ski stack up?
Hi Derek!
I do not think we had it available at the time of filming. If we did, it would at least be on our cursory list. It's got some weight to it, so feels quite stable for having neither metal nor carbon in it. It's amazing what they get from wood and fiberglass in the Foundation build, and the shape of the 103 is on the fun side like the Ranger 102.
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Have you guys reviewed or personally skied the Faction Prodigy? The 3.0 is a 106 and has some decent reviews. Curious your thoughts. Great content overall and big fan out here from NorCal.
Another request. I'm a big fan of the What's in My Quiver vids. Keep those coming or bring in some guest cameos..
We don't get on the Factions as much as we'd like--normally only on industry days versus the more vendor-specific ones we do here in VT. We've liked the Candide's and the Dictators over the past few seasons, but haven't gotten on the Prodigy yet. We have a few more quiver videos lined up, likely mid-winter--it's actually a lot of work to get someone on all of their skis and get good footage!
Hey guys, tahoe skier 190lbs, not super aggressive but prefer off piste and trees with the ability to still carve. Picked up a pair of Ripstick 96s recently based on recommendations but im starting to worry they'll be too narrow for most off piste days when theirs fresh snow. What are the performance differences between the 96 and 106? Would the 106 be a better daily or stick with 96 and get a wider companion ski for big dumps? Rode Rustlers 10s daily last season and really loved the playfulness and forgiveness but wanted more carve. Rode 11s on a few fresh powder days, really liked them and would consider them again as a pow ski but also wondering if the 106 or something similarly would cover enough ground for both.
Hi Allen! I personally would stick with the 96 then get a wider ski for big powder days. Rustler 11, Ripstick 116, something in that mid-110 underfoot range. The Ripstick 106 would be a good choice if you only wanted to have one pair of skis, but if you can manage, you'll get a bigger range of performance out of owning two pairs. More appropriate for the fringe conditions, so to speak. You'll have the correct tools for low snow days and deep days, rather than something that works, but isn't the ideal tool.
Which do you think are the most fun and playful?
Tough to pick a real winner as they're all a ton of fun. The lighter skis and/or the skis with the most rocker are going to feel the most playful for the majority of skiers, but there's a lot of variety from skiing style and stuff like that.
I always am looking for natural jumps, always searching for powder (in resort), and want something playful but still strong enough to stomp big landings and charge through spicier terrain. Ive been on revolt 104s nordica enforcer 104 bc 120s and mantra m5s. I would grt the BC 110s if I didnt have to wait until after summer. But i need something now. BC 100, revolt 104 etc but worry that they might not provide the technical terrain performance or stability i might end up needing .. not sure what to get and where to go... sorry for the long paragraph i appreciate your time.
@Homayoun Infantes they were pretty good. Not a ton of camber which decreased hardpack/icy performance a bit but overall pretty good. I think the bent chetlers would probably have better icy/harpack performance due to more camber. But the revolts would hold up fine.
How bout a tree skiing wall ?
I’m looking for one of those “bridges” between all-mountain and freeride skis. I’m 5’11 165lbs. I’m torn between the enforcer 104, rustler 10, Fischer 102 FR. Love to play in the trees, back bowls, and want something that can also handle the powder. Would say I spend my time 10 percent in the park too. Any thoughts on which direction I should go?
All 3 of those skis are great. Enforcer 104 is the strongest, so if you're an aggressive skier or someone who likes to ski fast, that might be the best choice. Rustler 10 is the easiest to ski, but isn't as stable. The tips and tails are very soft, so it can get bounced around a little more, but less aggressive skiers or those who prefer moderate speeds tend to prefer it over the Enforcer. Ranger is kind of in between in its overall feel. It's more responsive than both, but overall stability, forgiveness, etc is basically right in between. I'm around your size and own a pair of Enforcer 104, which I love because I can point them anywhere and they go right through anything, but they are more fatiguing than a Ranger or Rustler. Hope that helps!
Do you guys ever review or get to test the J Ski's out of Burlington, VT?
Hi Andrew! We have done some testing on J Skis, just never released any reviews. We're friends with Jason Levinthal, and we do get a lot of requests for reviews, so you may see some down the road.
Will you be doing an episode on 110+ fat powder planks?
Sure will! We're actually working on that this week.
So im an East Coast skier as well. How would you say the M-Pro compares to the O.G Armada Invictus 108's (187) or the Dynastar XXL Pro's from the mid 00's. I use the XXL Pros for 1-2 days after big storm to help drive and blow through the crud instead of ski around it. Plus I'm a bigger guy (weight wise) as Bob.
Heavier, stiffer. The M-Pro really is a ridiculous ski, at least in my opinion. Even more ridiculous than the XXL Pro. I personally wouldn't want to ski it on the east coast. It just wants to make such a big turn shape it limits what terrain it feels good in. Maybe ripping giant turns on east coast groomers, but that feels kind of one dimensional. I think there are better skis in that category (Cochise 106, Katana 108) that are plenty powerful, but slightly less ridiculous than the Pro Rider.
Looks like I need to buy a Pro Rider. I am the best skier on the mountain after all
They aren't overkill if you are a larger person and a good skier, or regular sized and great at skiing. I feel like if you are even thinking about them, you probably can ski them. Just know their limits before going into it. They are a must own if you have a quiver and ski at mountains like Snowbird, Palisades Tahoe, Jackson Hole. I could almost go as far to say they are a must own if you live on the west coast USA/Canada in general. Just stay out of moguls and tight trees. They are heavy, the turn radius feels even longer than it's stated on paper.
@@aev4918 I just got a pair. I'm 6ft 220 and ski 100 days at Snowbird. I'm looking forward to them. But I probably won't be sporting them until Jan. I think they might be too unwieldy early season when one's skill level is lower than normal. I can't imagine why there is a single pair of them east of the Mississippi.
Where is the mindbender 108s in this video?
We considered it, but decided to include the Reckoner 102 instead. We'll have the Mindbender 108 in another video almost definitely.
As much as I want one of these freeride/powder oriented skis I feel that I've got to get a more front side oriented ski like the Brahma first. These seem like they're a bit too similar to Bent Chetler 100 in terms of general application and that's my only ski worth it's salt right now.
I agree. If you already have a Bent Chetler 100, a narrower ski would be a better complement. There's a lot of cross over in this category with the BC 100.
I'd love to own a ski in this category but as a New England skier it just seems unrealistic. It goes against your advice of get the ski for the conditions you ski not the conditions you want to ski. So... I guess i'm going to buy ice skates. Kidding aside, I will end up getting my east coast powder skis at some point even if I only get to use them a few times per year.
Having a ski in this width range is perfectly reasonable for a New England skier! You might not ski it every day, but if you have the means and can afford multiple pairs of skis, it's awesome having a wider ski for softer days.
How does Blister measure the 184cm Fischer 102FRs at 2100 grams and y'all got them at 1950?
We have found there to be up to about 100 gram difference possibilities between both scales and skis. Differences in wood grain, amount of glue and epoxy used can all make up about 100 grams either way.
I currently have the rossi experience 88…looking to add another ski for my all mountain/soft snow use around 100-106mm width. Intermediate/advanced skier 5”9 160lbs. Looking for something playful, turns easy, smeary better for powder & trees. Any suggestions? Thx for the videos!!
Ripstick 106, Blaze 106, Reckoner 102, Rustler 10, QST 106... those would all be really good options. Work well for lighter skiers, all have plenty of float, and all have a relatively easy, approachable feel. Hope that helps!
To many choices ;). Ok im a powerrider. Like long turns, low position. Going touring as well. Which one should i go for. As far as i have now looked into different models it looks like i should choose between faction action 3.0, fischer ranger 102, head kore, armada tracer 108. Like that the faction is so light but is it enough stabile? Ranger is a bit heavy for touring, Head kore is mega stiff, armada not so stabile or? Help me ;)
Hey! My first instinct is Ranger 102. If you love high edge angles and big high speed turns I think you'd love it. Kore feels too light and stiff for your description, Faction too light too, and Tracer might not have the stability you're looking for. What about Ripstick 106 Black? Lighter than Ranger, but just as strong and loves to make big arcing turns. At least another to consider, although I don't expect you'd be disappointed with a Ranger.
Hello!
I am thinking of buying a touring and powder/playful complement ski for my Enforcers 93 that I've owned for a few years.
I love my enforcers and plan to keep them for the firmest iciest days but I need touring and powder ski.
I have been looking at the ripstick 106 a lot because of the float, agility, and edge grip(for the weight and size.)
I am a pretty light skier at 70 kg 154 lbs so I think that they will provide enough stability and dampness for medium-high speeds.
My previous experiences with lighter skis are my uncle's pair of Armada Tracer 98 with Shift.
They are at 188 cm which is 1 length too long for me, I could still throw them around in a tight forest though. They didn't give me that edge grip and dampness as my enforcers do though(unsurprisingly.)
Do you think that the 180 cm Ripsticks 106 with a Shift would be a good choice for me? I have also been looking at the black edition but since the normal one is cheaper and I already have the enforcers I think that getting a more contrasting ski compared to my enforcers would be beneficial.
Adam
HI Adam!
I think you'll find enough ski in the blue 106, especially since you're likely using it in softer snow with the Shift. It's a smooth floater with good rebound--a whole lot of fun. Even at higher speeds, I think you'll do just fine on the Blue 106, and it's a great complement to that Enforcer.
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Would you throw the Liberty Origin 106 into this mix? Curious why that ski didn't make the cut for this collection.
100% we would, and I really like that ski. Unfortunately there's a bit of delay in Liberty's shipping right now and we didn't have one on hand to show. We've actually talked about doing a separate Liberty comparison if their skis are delayed much more.
It has some similarities to skis like the Ranger 102, QST 106, and Enforcer 104... Good mix of stability and maneuverability, especially with the new VMT 1.0 construction. Probably would be best described as closest to the Ranger 102, just a little wider.
How would you guys compare the Fischer Ranger 102 to the Dynastar M-Free 108 (in about the 177-182cm range)? Obviously you’re gonna get some more float out of the Dynastar, but I’m curious about how they are in trees and tight terrain? Looking for a real “ninja stick” that’s better to throw around and pop in variable conditions, fresh snow, trees, and moguls than the Cadillac of the old enforcer 100 which I ski on everything right now. The enforcer can be a bit tiring in tight terrain. Does the Ranger 102 overlap too much with the enforcer to make sense buying? Which ski did you guys have more fun on?
We were actually really impressed with the 108's combination of flotation, agility, and energy. The Ranger is not quite as playful, but is a darn good floater and has really good on-trail performance. It falls short of the smoothness and power of the Enforcer, but that's not really its target audience. I think it's a different enough ski to warrant the two, but the Dynastar is likely a better complement.
Do you think the Fischer Ranger 102 FR is a good first ski to be used only for off-piste? I already have an on-piste ski.
I have good skill level on-piste but never tried off-piste and gonna start this season. My only concern is that I am a heavy guy(100kg) and I wonder if 102 would be too narrow to float someone my weight. Most of my ski will be done in Europe(Austria, Italy, France and Switzerland).
What do you think ?
I actually think that's a great choice for your size and your current ability level. It will be easier for you to manipulate and control than heavier skis, but should still be supportive for your weight. I think it'll be a nice ski for you to start exploring more technical terrain and softer snow conditions.
Dude, I have the same parameters to start and I went for quite firm Scott Scrapper 115 / 189, it has -13 stock mount point with a huge rocker. FR102 is even firmer and that may be a show-stopper. Not much of a rocker in FR with 102 may make you drown. Will be no butters 4 granted. I recommend you smth wider or at least with some fine rocker. Aint forcing 110+ as for uncomfy shin & knee feel due the day @ slope. FR102 is for a trained killer with some speed attitude. Responsibly recommend some uni-chiller like rip106. Have fun!
@@Al-sk4nz Stiffer, yes, but the Ranger 102 FR has such light swing weight that I think it's a perfectly reasonable choice. I do, however, agree that the Ripstick 106 would also be an excellent choice.
@@Al-sk4nz I guess being firm should not be a problem because I'm a powerful skier, besides my 100kg, I hit the gym quite often and have very strong legs. My Elan Amphibio 18ti2 is quite stiff and I have no problem bending it, so in this case I guess the Ranger 102 should not be a problem :)
I never saw the Ranger in person, but although it's the rocker doesn't look like the biggest one ever, seems quite good to me. Did you ski on that one too ?
Backland 107 vs Corvus Freebird downhill performance ?
The Corvus is quite a bit heavier and sturdier. If big lines and fast speeds are your thing, then I'd go Corvus, but for more of a plotted course, I like the light weight and snappy nature of the Backland.
I wish the Origin 106 had come in so you could review that. Where would that one fit into this lineup?
I'd put it in with the K2 Reckoner 102 in terms of playfulness and snappiness, Revolt 104 is another good choice. Very fun, playful, and round turns with some drifty stuff in parts.
Either of you ever tried a pair of ON3P's? Curious what your thoughts are since they went from a non existent company to now a semi common ski at my resort.
I've been on a handful of ON3Ps. They make some cool skis, some interesting shapes too. We haven't done much actual testing on them, but it would be fun to add them to the mix sometime... We'll see what we can do.
Guys, Grizzly Gulch had been around and used for ages! Vail pass????
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Definitely a more popular backcountry jump spot in the year 2021!
Hey, guys. Wondering about your thoughts on the 106 black ripstick vs the 96. I'm 6' 210 skiing the northwest and mountain west, mostly trees, off piste & bumps. I order a pair of the 96 but after watching your reviews I'm thinking I should probably cancel and go w/ the 106's.
Hey Jeff! I don't know that you need to cancel and go with the 106... Could you? Sure, but you don't necessarily need to. The 96 is still really good in soft snow and off-piste terrain like bumps and trees. In fact, sometimes, it's better, like when you haven't had any significant snowfall in a few days. So, think about that. If you're in deep snow often, maybe the 106 would be better. Otherwise, I'd just enjoy the 96!
Elan Ripstick vs Elan Ripstick Black. Which one floats better?
All things being equal, the lighter ski floats better, so Green!
Hey guys! How do y'all fell the elan rip stick 106 black compare to the liberty Evolv 100?
Ripsticks have a softer flex pattern than the Evolv skis, even the Black Editions. That combined with the rocker and taper shape gives the Ripsticks a more maneuverable feel, especially in soft snow and/or more technical terrain. The Evolv 100 is a little more powerful overall, particularly in its vibration damping and how well it tracks through choppy snow. It's more fatiguing and not as easy to ski in technical terrain, however.
Length suggestion for Rustler 10 or QST 106? Advanced skier, Utah based, 6’2” 180lbs. 188 too much? Rarely chasing lines in the trees - more seeking open spaces, mandatory bumps (no choice, ha), etc
Hey Loren! No, not at all, I don't think 188 cm is too much, especially if you're not in the trees much. Both those skis have a nice amount of tip and tail rocker, so even in the longer lengths, they remain relatively forgiving and not overly fatiguing.
no mention of the Liberty Origin 106....any thoughts on that ski?
HI Dave!
Didn't have it in stock to show, but certainly right up there with the 106's like the Elan Ripstick or the Dynastar M-Free 108. The Origin has a nice round shape, and that translates well to how it turns and behaves--it's very playful and smeary, but still has that metal strut running the length of the ski to give it some power.
Hey! In PNW looking for a ski between my enforcer 94 and k2 obsethed 117... looking for conditions up to 1ft powder and heavy wet crud. Fischer 102, rustler 10, enforcer free 104? Thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Hi! I think I answered on another thread, but you'll get most of the same experience on the 104 as the 94, just more playfulness and flotation. Rustler and Ranger are a bit lighter and with lower swing weights, so they float a bit better, but they don't quite have the high-end on the groomers or for when the snow gets rugged.
Hi guys. I have Enforcers 104 186cm and love them. I tried Mindbenders 108ti 186cm and they felt too long, just like you said. I am 5'10", 190lb. I bought MB 108 in 179cm length and here's my question: where should I mount the bindings, so they would feel similar to my Enforcers mounted at the recommended line? Thank you!
Don't overthink it! We'd go on the line with that ski as well. Have fun!
Why no Factions?
Just haven't worked them into the mix just yet. We've done some testing on Faction and are always considering new brands to add. I often say they're a likely addition to our mix someday...
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why no candide 2.0?
We currently don't do enough testing on Faction skis to include them in these comparisons. We may someday, but now that Candide is leaving the brand, we may not... Very curious to see what Candide does next, and Faction does make great skis, so we'll have to see.
I guess Lib Tech doesn't make the cut?
As of now, we don't have enough experience testing the brand to include them.
When is the power ski video coming?
Within a few weeks for sure.
I typically ski on the east (holiday, 7 springs, pknpk) but every other year I head out west to Vail area. I stay in bounds majority of the time, ride basic tree paths in the woods and like to hit small jumps, ride switch, and basic rails/boxes. I go in the back bowls when in vail for a day or so. I’m torn on what type of ski I should get. I’m leaning towards the ARV 106, but the revolt and sir Francis are also skis I want to consider. Am I missing anything? What do you think?
ARV 106 and Revolt 104 both feel like great choices for how you ski and what you like to do. Both are fun in the park, both are relatively versatile around the whole mountain, and both can handle softer snow conditions when you go out west. Sir Francis Bacon is really soft and IMO not as well rounded. It's a great powder ski, but has some limitations on firmer snow. I personally would consider the Ranger 102 and Reckoner 102 as well. A little narrower, but still very versatile and very fun for all the terrain you like to ski.
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Hi!
How would you compare the Liberty Origin 106 to the QST 106? Thanks!
Good one! The thing that sticks out to be about the Liberty is the smoothness and roundness of the shape, and how that affects the turn. What you see is what you get. It's a fun and playful ski that makes some of the roundest turns and plays in soft snow with an incredibly smooth personality. The QST is a bit blockier--it is a great floater for its width due to the extended tail rocker, and with the additional weight, it's great at busting through crud and being a powerful ski. For more of a freestyle/slashy/smeary ski, the Origin is fantastic, but for more aggressive skiing through the deep and crud, I'd go QST.
What about the line sakana??
Our Line order was actually delayed unfortunately. We initially wanted to include the Sick Day 104, but unfortunately had to leave them out. You should see Line in some future comparisons as I do believe at this point they've shown up.
How do the 4frnt ravens compare?
Qst 106
Rustler 10
Blaze 106
Voile HyperCharger? Missed a USA Made ski?
who gives a fuck about Voile? lmao
We just haven't done enough testing on Voile to be able to confidently include them in a comparison like this.
How's the QST 106 compare vs the enforcer 110 and rustler 11 in heavy chop?
Looking to bridge the gap between my 100 enforcer and my ruslter 11's
The 106 is very floaty and fun, but lacks the top-end power of the Enforcer 110, which is just a very strong ski for crud and chop at speed. The 106 doesn't quite have the same speed limit, but when it comes to soft snow flotation and all-mountain versatility, the 106 is the best on the list. I'd say it's closer to the Rustler 11, but still not there.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks for this, how's edge hold on ice for the QST 106 vs something like a 110 enforcer & the 100, also how does it handle groomers? I'm also debating the Unleaded 108, but not sure about the rocker lines.
Going to the Dolomites/ Chamonix for 2 weeks in Dec / jan and my GF and I are only taking 1 ski so I'm looking for a 1 ski solution. She has the enforcer 93's and 104 frees and is debating between the 2.
@@bryand6094 Enforcers, with metal, are generally going to grip better, with the 100 being the best of the bunch. Unleashed is definitely more of a twin-tip influence more than freeride in terms of rocker, but I do think that adds to the grippy nature of the ski. I'd say for a two-week stretch in Europe, the 104 Free is the way to go. Have a great time!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks that makes the choice clear for my GF what she will use. Im in between sizes on the enforcers with the 104 rocker profile in 179 being to short for my liking but 179 in the 100 is excellent. With the QST 106 would you say the older 2022 design had more on piste grip / camber than the newer 2023 model? Or is the crud busting of the newer 2023 better?
what's got better edge hold and crud busting, the rustler 11 or the qst 106?
Where are the icelandic nomad skis? Do you guys not review icelandic?
Nope, we're not an Icelantic dealer and don't really test their skis very often. Last time I skied a pair, unfortunately, I was very underwhelmed. I know a lot of people like the Nomad, and I'll give it another try sometime this season.
Another 1.5 hr long vid ... WOW, great... one more step to front side skis xD
Next video will be narrower. Maybe not all the way to frontside narrow, but yes, we're getting there!
Nope no more jumps in vail pass☹️
Some fun spots in there! At least I'll always have the memories.
For the comic value alone, I think putting the monster Dynastar M-Pro under the Christmas tree for myself would send my entire family into an uncontrolled inability to breathe laughing fit at lunatic dad trying to kill himself.
Paul, if I could send you one just for the reaction I would. Merry Christmas, and happy skiing!
I must be getting old, most of these skis look like water skis! Powder, etc!
It's amazing what they're getting these mid-100's to do on the groomers--not that they're meant to do that, but as a happy by-product!
I live in the East why am I here
Lots of skiers on the east have skis in this width range! I (Jeff) have the Enforcer 104 in my quiver, Bob's widest ski is the old Pinnacle 105 from K2.
Sleeping on 4frnt
4FRNT is almost exclusively direct-to-consumer, so in other words, we can't really sell their skis. We do have some good friends that work for the brand, however, so maybe we'll try to do some testing on them this season.
Can one even really do a proper ski comparison in shorts? LOL
Haha! I played golf before work that day and didn't think much of it. It looked weird to me too when I was editing.