this was super cool to see i’m building my 87 s10 in my garage which is my first real build so it’s really helpful and cool to see other who have done it
Thanks so much Adam for sharing with we fans more of what's behind the scenes of the Gap Train. We very much appreciate your mentioning the 'ol Man Bill Hoskinson's tip for saving weight while achieving the traction you need.As with the Mountain Dew, you guys coming up with that incredible front shock extension and the turbo outside the truck was a boon for the sport and we're now seeing those innovations all over the racing scene. Good on ya for thinking outside the box and sharing those ideas with the racing community!
Man I love this truck it's a beast an then you add its story just since you guys built it on the show...its killer I always look forward to seeing new videos of what you guy's are doing with it
Yall are definitely one of my favorite Street/No time camps! I've never had any problems with my vs gates I want to say I've had vs gates on all my turbo builds, my Huron Speed single kit on my 99 Z28 came with xs power 44's but they where shit I went to vs 44's haven't had a problem in that department for a while
Great 👍job brother. Goes to show you, you don't have to have a ton of money. Just the Wil and the thrill to race. Love it. Keep up the great 👍work guys and we'll be seeing yall soon. Come on Spring!!!!!.
Very kewl I'm building a 94 s10. It's amazing what you can do with the stock suspension and make it work quite well. Thanks for more suspension information.
I didn’t realize you guys had my old turbo on there. Lol. It trapped 134 at 3400lbs in my car. But yeah, i beat it up. Ate a lot of bugs and rocks on a couple race weeks. 😬
Love your videos and love the truck. I have a suggestion to fix the cooling issues you have. Take the radiator and flip it so the fans are on the bottom blowing upward cause your drawing air in from the bottom and the trans cooler also. Its like 2 air flows working against each other the way it is plus you might gain a half a pound of down force with the air blowing upward probably not but mabye. Look forward to seeing it run somewhere this summer and ill be watching the videos thanks
I'd like to see you through both those plates of metal that are on the tailgate if that thing ever flips those zip ties will break and those will go flying who knows where but it wouldn't be hard to drill them and put a through bolt through there and you can still take them on and off probably easier than reseptide in it just like riding a motorcycle I say dress for the crash not the ride it's the same thing with the race car prepare for the crash not the race be safe brother keep up the good work
Another way to flair the fenders is to cut the lip, then put a rim on, then use a baseball bat & put it up in between & roll it around from front to back. You can work your way down the bat closer to the fat end until you reach desired flair ;)
Watched you guys at rmrw🤘. You and your buddies are pretty crafty,, add a supplemental/ removable radiator for street drives and bring it to sick week PLEASE!!!
Definitely. My son gets his license this year and we have a nice Colorado truck we are building. Once we start on it we will definitely make some videos showing the build.
Yes sir sure do! Here is the link midamericakustoms.com/collections/suspension-components/products/mak-gap-brackets-leaf-spring-brackets-for-caltrac-bars
This Trucks bad ass I love it. I’ve got two questions. What size AN line did you run for the radiator? And did you cut the hole in your frame to run the lines threw? Thanks
It's 16an line which is really marginal for a street car. 20 an would be better. I didn't have to cut any holes in the frame but it was tight and tricky getting it through
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 Exactly. I was worried 16an was going to be to small but I’ve seen a lot of people using it so I’m going to give it a try. Thanks again for the reply. If your bored check out my Ls swapped S10 on My Channel.
@@sheltonbogarage9580 you should be in good shape. We only had issues on extend drives in hot temps and honestly haven't looked in to the real cause. So I don't want to blame line size completely for our issues
New sub here. Looking at your build (sweet btw) I’m collecting parts and knowledge for my 2008 turbo colorado that I want to build for the track. I LQ4/80e swapped my foxbody, that’s just a driver. I want something FASTER! Keep it up. 👍
Great video and thanks for being transparent! What size are the wheels front and back along with tire size? Love the look and I'm considering running the same wheels
I remember on the show everyone was laughing where you guys were putting the turbo. I thought you put it up there as a joke but when you left it there I was wondering why when there was enough room under the hood
I would love to see a build sheet on an s10 like yours! Too be honest I'm trying to replicate it to an extent. I just want my turbo In the engine bay though!
It has been a stock bottom end a few times this year. We had a sbe in it during Rocky mountain raceweek and it took 33 to 35 lbs like a champ. They have a life expectancy and the tune up has to be really good to keep them alive at those power levels
We haven't done a ton with egt tuning yet but from what I have read it seems to work better to see a dead cylinder more than fine tuning of each cylinder
It's now just a cheap summit rod and piston aluminum 5.3 The heads are stock 799s with btr high rpm springs. It has a Baker engineering cam from TJ Grimes
Great question and it is surprising really easy. Just make sure you get the big wire kit from holley with the coils. That will make sure the wiring side for the coils can handle the extra amp draw. Then just need a few 60 to 80 amp relays. One for each bank. The big wire kit will get power from those relays. We are going to do a video in the near future to show how it hooks up.
I have a vs 85/96 and vs 44wastegate in normal weather it’s about 2.6 more boost than dome. But cool weather 50 or less have boost creep issues which make tuning a pia. So what I was wondering did you switch to single 44tial and if so do you have any creep issues thanks.
We typically use a single 60mm on all s400 chassis builds. Depending on how much boost you are making and turbo placement, priority, etc it can sometimes be hard to keep things on target. Are you on cO2
Hey I've heard you guys say "the show" and I've gathered it was/is on MAVTV but whats it called. I've been back into the files watching mtn dew vs the world and still haven't seen much about this show..also what's a pecker even do? Off topic but What does a horse shoe do? Is there any horse socks? Do longer comments help the algorithm or just any comment..
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 you mean like a -16? I'm asking Inside diameter just making sure I follow. My main reason is because I know people have issues with heating sometimes an I feel my input might help if necessary. I have a ford ranger with a 347 stroker (totally different then what you have I know) an I use it for offroad/mudding. I ran my radiator in the bed (its a stock 5.0l mountaineer radiator) an im still running a regular belt driven water pump with 1 1/2 inch hose an I never have a heating issue. Just figured I'd throw my 2 cents in.
Is this the same truck and setup that just won a $250K dollar no prep race a couple months ago ? If so throw the little truck some love and get the truck a engine upgrade and get something like a Proline engine or Big block Chevy or 2Jz Basically something you can go race no prep kings championship races
For the back track stuff my camaro is really to heavy. To make it work well I would have to cut the car up and I really don't want to. I have had it 20 years and love that it is still a full street car.
Thank you for sharing your s10 build and your knowledge I love your truck😎
Dude that truck was flying at Crossville!! I literally love this shit outta y'all! Great job Adam and the boy's!!
Thanks Jack! That was a damn good night. Appreciate ya watching
Nice man thanks for the video I like how you guys don't hide nothing 💪
Thanks for watching
this was super cool to see i’m building my 87 s10 in my garage which is my first real build so it’s really helpful and cool to see other who have done it
Thanks so much Adam for sharing with we fans more of what's behind the scenes of the Gap Train. We very much appreciate your mentioning the 'ol Man Bill Hoskinson's tip for saving weight while achieving the traction you need.As with the Mountain Dew, you guys coming up with that incredible front shock extension and the turbo outside the truck was a boon for the sport and we're now seeing those innovations all over the racing scene. Good on ya for thinking outside the box and sharing those ideas with the racing community!
Thanks John we love this stuff and are really lucky we get to live our dream
Man I love this truck it's a beast an then you add its story just since you guys built it on the show...its killer
I always look forward to seeing new videos of what you guy's are doing with it
Thanks Dustin, many more to come
Dig what you guys are doing. Seen you guys at Crossville, the train was rollin. Your whole team was on point.
Seen them there too! Great group of guys all very nice.
Thanks guys we love racing and doing it with our friends
cool video, i have always wanted to see all around it in person, someday
I love this truck and I've watched you guys run it several times this year and that truck is definitely a top contender and is very fast
Thanks buddy
One of my favorite people. Keep having fun brother.
Thanks!!
Yall are definitely one of my favorite Street/No time camps! I've never had any problems with my vs gates I want to say I've had vs gates on all my turbo builds, my Huron Speed single kit on my 99 Z28 came with xs power 44's but they where shit I went to vs 44's haven't had a problem in that department for a while
Thanks dude. Yeah it definitely seems like it can be hit or miss on the vs stuff
Great 👍job brother. Goes to show you, you don't have to have a ton of money. Just the Wil and the thrill to race. Love it. Keep up the great 👍work guys and we'll be seeing yall soon. Come on Spring!!!!!.
Amen. Thanks and see ya in the warm weather
Very good video Adam, count down to 10k subscribers!
Hells ya!!
Very kewl I'm building a 94 s10. It's amazing what you can do with the stock suspension and make it work quite well. Thanks for more suspension information.
You're welcome. Good luck with your build and Leaf Springs TTF 😉
Great video nice to see what’s changed since the show, and what is done to make the thing work. Thanks for all the info
Thanks for watching bud
Another example of how simple is fast....love it 👍😎
Exactly ;)
Bro I love this. Just a working mans build!!
Thanks brotha
it's a nice truck and it works the best think I like is how you made the intercooler to look like the grille of the truck lol! That's badass
Thanks. The toughest part in the switch to methanol for me is gonna be getting rid of the intercooler. I loved the look of it
Love this channel
Thanks!
nice setup that works guys!!
thank you for sharing...
I didn’t realize you guys had my old turbo on there. Lol. It trapped 134 at 3400lbs in my car. But yeah, i beat it up. Ate a lot of bugs and rocks on a couple race weeks. 😬
Lol yeah we finished it off nicely for ya ;)
Love your videos and love the truck. I have a suggestion to fix the cooling issues you have. Take the radiator and flip it so the fans are on the bottom blowing upward cause your drawing air in from the bottom and the trans cooler also. Its like 2 air flows working against each other the way it is plus you might gain a half a pound of down force with the air blowing upward probably not but mabye. Look forward to seeing it run somewhere this summer and ill be watching the videos thanks
If you have pulling fans and not pushing fans then my suggestion can get flushed. Typed before I thought
Not a bad idea I will take a look at that. Thanks
Love me some MAKTV baby. Hello from Kendallville In. Hope to get to the shop what it gets warm. I have an 04 gto I want to play with.
Hell ya. Thanks Mark and definitely stop by
You could try a NACA duct on each side of the bed with 3 or 4 inch hose flowing air directly on you radiator.
You keep “saying on the show” what show was the truck on I would like to watch it
Horsepower Wars
I'd like to see you through both those plates of metal that are on the tailgate if that thing ever flips those zip ties will break and those will go flying who knows where but it wouldn't be hard to drill them and put a through bolt through there and you can still take them on and off probably easier than reseptide in it just like riding a motorcycle I say dress for the crash not the ride it's the same thing with the race car prepare for the crash not the race be safe brother keep up the good work
100% right. I plan on doing that when I put it back together
Cool, I'm building a Ranger w/ 545ci powerglide. Thanks for sharing.
Cool, best of luck with your build
Awesome!
Take some aluminum flat bar and weld them into the end tanks of the radiator to create a triple pass. It will help cool the thing down.
It's beautiful
Thanks John. Hope to see ya out racing with us again this season
Another way to flair the fenders is to cut the lip, then put a rim on, then use a baseball bat & put it up in between & roll it around from front to back. You can work your way down the bat closer to the fat end until you reach desired flair ;)
Thanks Adam for showing us! . is those pumps keeping up with the Meth ?
New fuel pump in the next Gap Train video.
My name is Moo Moo and I commented first just so everyone knows
Watched you guys at rmrw🤘. You and your buddies are pretty crafty,, add a supplemental/ removable radiator for street drives and bring it to sick week PLEASE!!!
I really did want to bring it to sick week but all the classes are 1/4 mile. We will be there in Uncle Sam though to still put on a shit show lol
Other than being the coolest shit ever, is there any performance benefits to remote mount turbo as opposed to t4 flange at manifold
Not really. For us it was about getting the weight out back - Adam
Man you have many things you can do to upgrade to get more power first is those factory manifolds. A nice set of turbo headers would wake that b up
Who is that girl? You know Daddy Dave's daughter ran his s10 truck the end of last year. 😎
That's my daughter and definitely a future racer ;)
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 seems like the garage is full of cars but yall should build a car together and teach the ways of a jedi 💪🧠
Definitely. My son gets his license this year and we have a nice Colorado truck we are building. Once we start on it we will definitely make some videos showing the build.
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 sweet can't wait for the build series
It's gonna be a good one for sure. Thanks for watching
You guys sell. Those gap brackets don’t you? And where?? Thanks
Yes sir sure do! Here is the link midamericakustoms.com/collections/suspension-components/products/mak-gap-brackets-leaf-spring-brackets-for-caltrac-bars
Appreciate the reply.. are they sold in a set or individually??
@@johngrabowski2957 as a set.
Thanks
This Trucks bad ass I love it. I’ve got two questions. What size AN line did you run for the radiator? And did you cut the hole in your frame to run the lines threw? Thanks
It's 16an line which is really marginal for a street car. 20 an would be better. I didn't have to cut any holes in the frame but it was tight and tricky getting it through
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 Thanks for the reply. I went with 16 as well , the price of -20 was a arm and a leg high .
You're welcome and that's no joke. Easy to have 1k wrapped up in hose and fittings with 20 an
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 Exactly. I was worried 16an was going to be to small but I’ve seen a lot of people using it so I’m going to give it a try.
Thanks again for the reply. If your bored check out my Ls swapped S10 on My Channel.
@@sheltonbogarage9580 you should be in good shape. We only had issues on extend drives in hot temps and honestly haven't looked in to the real cause. So I don't want to blame line size completely for our issues
Thanks for this video!
Thanks for watching
New sub here. Looking at your build (sweet btw) I’m collecting parts and knowledge for my 2008 turbo colorado that I want to build for the track. I LQ4/80e swapped my foxbody, that’s just a driver. I want something FASTER! Keep it up. 👍
Great video and thanks for being transparent! What size are the wheels front and back along with tire size? Love the look and I'm considering running the same wheels
Thank you thank you thank you!!!. Trick yet not so trick . I love it. Curious if you have the PN for the QA1 shocks you used.
Yep sure do. Do you need the front or rear part number
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 Fronts if you don,t mind!!! Thanks!!
They are M911CR and M911CL
I remember on the show everyone was laughing where you guys were putting the turbo. I thought you put it up there as a joke but when you left it there I was wondering why when there was enough room under the hood
It is definitely really tight under there
I would love to see a build sheet on an s10 like yours! Too be honest I'm trying to replicate it to an extent. I just want my turbo In the engine bay though!
Any exact parts of the build you are looking for bud.
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837wondering what internals you in the engine or are you making a complete stock bottom end hold 35 pounds of boost!
It has been a stock bottom end a few times this year. We had a sbe in it during Rocky mountain raceweek and it took 33 to 35 lbs like a champ. They have a life expectancy and the tune up has to be really good to keep them alive at those power levels
Where did you get that weight that goes across the bed near the tailgate?
Looks great, i have been wondering details on gap train to apply to my s10. What does it weigh with all that extra weight?
Thanks for watching. It weight 3k with me and no ballast. In back track form it weights 3600 lbs
Bend two license plates like you have it together one on each side it’ll make it stronger.
Great videos guys. What are your thoughts on the 8 egt kit, to perhaps see if one cylinder was lean and perhaps save a motor?
We haven't done a ton with egt tuning yet but from what I have read it seems to work better to see a dead cylinder more than fine tuning of each cylinder
Would a set of long tube headers fit? I'm curious as to whether they'd provide much more power.
They might but it would be pretty tight. I will say from all our experience so far, headers wouldn't make any difference at this power level
What rear gear are you running? Can you or do you leave in 2nd with you th400 at back of the track race's
Whats the backspacing on rear wheels on the gap train
why did you put a larger pulley on the alternator? where you having problems spinning it too fast.
Yep sure was. We turn the engine 7800 to 8k.
What about the motor setup?
It's now just a cheap summit rod and piston aluminum 5.3 The heads are stock 799s with btr high rpm springs. It has a Baker engineering cam from TJ Grimes
What show are you referring to in this video? I’m curious where I can find it because I’d like to watch
You can find it on RUclips under Horsepower Wars season 3
Sweet!
What is needed to put the smart coils on a holley efi, terminator, hp, and Dominator? Thanks.
Great question and it is surprising really easy. Just make sure you get the big wire kit from holley with the coils. That will make sure the wiring side for the coils can handle the extra amp draw. Then just need a few 60 to 80 amp relays. One for each bank. The big wire kit will get power from those relays. We are going to do a video in the near future to show how it hooks up.
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 Thanks. That will be nice.
What show was you on
Horsepower Wars season 3. You can see it on RUclips if you search that. Thanks for watching
Thank you
Where are you fellas from
Fort wayne, Indiana. It's in the northeast corner of the state
I'm from Indy currently in Lafayette, Indiana I thought you guy's was Indiana
What drop is your split mono leafs
Are there any complications with having the turbo so far away?
So what is the total weight you add on a no prep
400lbs extra?
Whats truck weigh without all the added weight?
It is right at 3k with me and no ballast. We add 600 lbs to get in back track mode.
I have a vs 85/96 and vs 44wastegate in normal weather it’s about 2.6 more boost than dome. But cool weather 50 or less have boost creep issues which make tuning a pia. So what I was wondering did you switch to single 44tial and if so do you have any creep issues thanks.
We typically use a single 60mm on all s400 chassis builds. Depending on how much boost you are making and turbo placement, priority, etc it can sometimes be hard to keep things on target. Are you on cO2
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 yes I’m on co2.
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 thanks for the info.
You're welcome. Good co2 is a must for control
Is that a qa1 mod shock up front?
Yep sure are. Pn m911cl and m911cr
Hey I've heard you guys say "the show" and I've gathered it was/is on MAVTV but whats it called. I've been back into the files watching mtn dew vs the world and still haven't seen much about this show..also what's a pecker even do? Off topic but What does a horse shoe do? Is there any horse socks? Do longer comments help the algorithm or just any comment..
They built and won the truck on Horsepower Wars season 3.
Croc mafia
Lmao hells ya!!
What size engine are you running?
What size are your ex. pipes? 2.25 into 2.5"? Was thinking about running manifolds on my 454 2.5" into 3". Think that's too big?
You guys doing race week again next year ?
We won't be at Rmrw 1 but maybe 2
How much total timing you running with 30lbs?
Between 16 and 20 depending on fuel and where it is at rpm wise
Hey what size rear rim and backspace is on the truck
It is a 15x10 with 5" bs
I have a question if you don't mind me asking. What size hose are you running to that radiator?
It is 16 an but 20 would of been better
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 you mean like a -16? I'm asking Inside diameter just making sure I follow. My main reason is because I know people have issues with heating sometimes an I feel my input might help if necessary. I have a ford ranger with a 347 stroker (totally different then what you have I know) an I use it for offroad/mudding. I ran my radiator in the bed (its a stock 5.0l mountaineer radiator) an im still running a regular belt driven water pump with 1 1/2 inch hose an I never have a heating issue. Just figured I'd throw my 2 cents in.
Yeah it's a -16. It needs to be a -20 or bigger like you said.
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 yes for sure
Is this the same truck and setup that just won
a $250K dollar no prep race a couple months ago ?
If so throw the little truck some love and get the truck a engine upgrade and get something like a Proline engine or Big block Chevy or 2Jz
Basically something you can go race no prep kings championship races
Nice work adam. Glad you are getting on camera more. Can only take so much sexy ginger. 😂
Lmao thanks brotha, love you too
Do you run schaeffers 15 40 in it
Typically the Schaeffers 20w50
What kind of fuel pump are you running for e85?
It has a pair of holley 12-1800 billet twin pumps
Why do you race the truck instead of the Camaro?
For the back track stuff my camaro is really to heavy. To make it work well I would have to cut the car up and I really don't want to. I have had it 20 years and love that it is still a full street car.
🏎🤘
Cant wait to uncle sam and gap train laying down gapps.
Fax!
When we gonna see gap train run out in front mustang from the show (white boy rick)
Anytime we race it ;)
@@maktvmidamericakustoms8837 two bad ass mofos would be a damn good race now lol
You the man!
From the Canadian Eh!
Thanks Tony!
I wish there was a long travel suspension available for the Colorado’s….. just sayin
MAK-TV! 🤘🇺🇸
it's good to have a corporate parts car.. lol
Lol hopefully I can get it back to 1 piece soon
If it ain't broke don't fix it
👍🏽🇺🇸👍🏽
What percentage did bias change by moving radiator to rear?
I believe it gained us about 1%
I’ve got gapped by the gap train
1st
What show are you speaking of sir?
How much does the truck weigh with its ballast in the rear?