Love this book! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
I just ran into the same problem while welding up a beach cart last night. Then I used a torch to preheat the aluminum and the job went so much smoother after that. I was welding thin to thick but in the end it look pretty good. Great video as always thanks for sharing.
Great idea! The reason you were having trouble welding the aluminum flat bar is s because it's 6061T-6, which is much more abrasive resistant and contains much more silicon than 5000 series aluminum plate. Even though it looks clean, it needs to be buffed with a stainless steel brush to remove the oxidation layer that is on top of the metal.
@@MakeEverything Clean your metal with an abrasive cloth including the TIG rod, then wipe everything with acetone. With TIG welding you can never be too clean. The oxidation layer of aluminum needs a much higher temp to melt than the underlying aluminum.
Dude! Fantastic man! And you’re so right when you say you’re amazed Milwaukee hasn’t already done this. Seriously though I am never surprised what a man will think of then design then build and this was pretty freaking cool! You get a double thumbs up on this project 👍👍🤩
Hey! Nice job! I have a makita vac I've been wanting to do something like this with to accommodate makpac cases. There would be a lot more fabbing to do for me because makita doesn't sell a mounting plate like Milwaukee. But, who doesn't love a challenge?! Thanks for sharing this. And for all of your content.
I would like Milwaukee to jam a vacuum into the packout base unit with wheels and handle. The cart could act as a extension cord for other tools and chargers aswell. Maybe even use a compact toolbox and make a cyclone extractor to mount on top of the stack
Great Build CHRIS! Thank you for showing your “oops”. We’ve all done it, it makes us human. With aluminum, as you know; it’s clean clean clean, and get rid of that hard oxide layer before you weld. In instances like this, where you occasionally weld thicker aluminum; always nice to have a bottle of helium on hand. Its price has increased crazily lately, but it really adds that extra punch on thicker aluminum. It will last a very long time, if you aren’t doing thicker aluminum on a daily basis. Just a thought. Love your builds, craftsmanship and sharing of what you accomplish. Thank you!
It took them a while but Milwaukee has listened! The new Packout Dust Extractor is launching soon in 2024. Part number is 0888-20. It is powered by either dual M18 batteries or via a plug. Includes remote operation as well, with promises that new tools will have remotes built in to turn the dust extractor on and off.
Fesstool has just that, your able to stack there storage boxes on top.its a company out of Germany. Only downside is there really expensive, check it out tho
Wrong. Nilfisk (the company that make this vacuum) makes a mount for the top for some of the other pack-out style L-Boxx accessories. Just not Milwaukee.
From an old man slowly moving from Milwaukee to Festool, your 🎉”Histool” has me rethinking the whole idea :-) seriously great job that looks like it will get the job done.
In reverse the process would have been easier. cut tabs, insert into plastic add super glue drop to top of tab push onto the bar. that would have positioned the tabs for welding on your weld table. Once the tabs are in position and fitted onto the vac, then drill and tap in situ. So basically your process in reverse and a whole lot easier with 100% accuracy of hole location. Love your concept idea.
I was thinking somehow if you could have designed and made a top that is removable so that it is not a permanent fixture. You can have the aluminium welding as far as I'm concerned I'm not going to do any aluminium welding. I haven't even done tig yet. Although I have a tig welder and wire fed welder. I have been thinking about getting packout. At the moment I have festool, dewalt tool boxes and some makita tool boxes which is the systainer. After my festool vacuum ran away from home. I don't know why my festool left me we not once exchanged angry words.I bought a starmix type matabo vacuum as it was a little less expensive than the festool. Although it doesn't have carrying capabilities than the festool. In saying this the festool did break some plastic on the top. So your design really is more robust. Well done.
It’s been great so far, it’s just pretty heavy to move around. I wind up using my cordless m18 ones a lot more and this one only comes out to long term projects
The actual genius of this is to make the base "pack out" box useful as is, where is. Otherwise you have to unpack the whole stack to get into that box. Especially good w/2nd box = drawers.
Many of these large companies don't have their own design office / people, but farm it out to design companies who may have experience in many directions - but NO firm and focused experience with the actual product. As a result, those products will always benefit from further design and development in addition to the initial costs to get it into production in the first place. Usually rushed through in order to satisfy shareholders or non-technical management. Believe me, I KNOW what I'm talking about.
Aluminum needs to be super clean. The sharpie marks or what ever you used to mark the location should have been cleaned off with Acetone along with both aluminum parts. Also, use a heat sink to disperse some of the heat from the aluminum.
All the tool companies are in it to make money. That's why you don't get everything at once. Everything is sold separately for more profits. Trust they will come out with it soon enough. It will also be unreasonably expensive and be it's own kit.
Charles Lanier . You are correct. Tools don't come out all at once. Newer designs are sitting waiting till the right time also batteries are inflated prices. I believe batteries have a cycle life built into them. So many batteries I have owned are dropping cells. At the moment my festool batteries hold up really well. Also my panasonic batteries. the panasonic are the older 3.3 amp hour 14 volt. I spoke to an electrician who used panasonic and he stated the older batteries were better than the newer 3.5 amp hour. So whatever has been done at the factory or manufacture is clandestine. We are no dummy.we know the batteries drop out a lot earlier than they should.
The reason Milwaukee has put pack out grid on top of it is on purpose. They didn’t design the vacuum. And the people who designed the vacuum didn’t design it to be load bearing. Milwaukee knows if they put pack out grid on top of it, some guy is going to stack 200+lbs of tool boxes on top of it. This will end up breaking off the vacuum wheels, and causing unsafe tipping hazards that they’ll eventually get sued for when some guy yanks his vacuum hose and tips 200lbs of tools onto some union worker’s steel toe boots and puts him out of work for a month.
Love this book! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxpCNxqmAkyjN6NPx1fyB7QiEFWyO5mUWL it is simply one-of-a-kind! I really love it, because karah explained all tools required to have the job done, not mentioning the fabulous diy pallets ideas. I'm pretty sure this will be a fresh start in my new endeavour. Amazon was great, they delivered on time. Thank you!
I just ran into the same problem while welding up a beach cart last night. Then I used a torch to preheat the aluminum and the job went so much smoother after that. I was welding thin to thick but in the end it look pretty good. Great video as always thanks for sharing.
I agree, why hasn't Milwaukee come out with a more integrated design? That is so clever. Great mod, Chris!
It doesn't even need to be integrated! All they had to make was the little accessories I welded up and this would be a bolt on addition!
@@MakeEverything milwaukee is so gonna steal this idea :-)
Great idea! The reason you were having trouble welding the aluminum flat bar is s because it's 6061T-6, which is much more abrasive resistant and contains much more silicon than 5000 series aluminum plate. Even though it looks clean, it needs to be buffed with a stainless steel brush to remove the oxidation layer that is on top of the metal.
Thank for the tip!!
@@MakeEverything Clean your metal with an abrasive cloth including the TIG rod, then wipe everything with acetone. With TIG welding you can never be too clean. The oxidation layer of aluminum needs a much higher temp to melt than the underlying aluminum.
Aluminum also conducts heat 15 x more effectively than steel, so yeah, it needs to get a lot more energy into it to remain hot.
also preheating the work before welding helps a lot
1000% agree; I was just thinking about this the other day too. Milwaukee needs to come out with a dust extractor that fits in the packout system.
Dude! Fantastic man! And you’re so right when you say you’re amazed Milwaukee hasn’t already done this. Seriously though I am never surprised what a man will think of then design then build and this was pretty freaking cool! You get a double thumbs up on this project 👍👍🤩
Wow! Great idea man!!
Very awesome! I think we all were thinking it. Thank you for bringing it to reality.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@MakeEverything 100% Got some great ideas and appreciate all that you put out sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Great job! I've been planning something similar for my M18 wet/dry shop vac. Loved the melted plastic save!
Hey! Nice job! I have a makita vac I've been wanting to do something like this with to accommodate makpac cases. There would be a lot more fabbing to do for me because makita doesn't sell a mounting plate like Milwaukee. But, who doesn't love a challenge?!
Thanks for sharing this. And for all of your content.
I will be copying this thanks for sharing. Small shop space utilization for the win.
Brilliant idea.
I would like Milwaukee to jam a vacuum into the packout base unit with wheels and handle. The cart could act as a extension cord for other tools and chargers aswell. Maybe even use a compact toolbox and make a cyclone extractor to mount on top of the stack
Great Build CHRIS! Thank you for showing your “oops”. We’ve all done it, it makes us human. With aluminum, as you know; it’s clean clean clean, and get rid of that hard oxide layer before you weld. In instances like this, where you occasionally weld thicker aluminum; always nice to have a bottle of helium on hand. Its price has increased crazily lately, but it really adds that extra punch on thicker aluminum. It will last a very long time, if you aren’t doing thicker aluminum on a daily basis. Just a thought. Love your builds, craftsmanship and sharing of what you accomplish. Thank you!
Clever! Mahalo for sharing! 🙂🙏
It took them a while but Milwaukee has listened! The new Packout Dust Extractor is launching soon in 2024. Part number is 0888-20. It is powered by either dual M18 batteries or via a plug. Includes remote operation as well, with promises that new tools will have remotes built in to turn the dust extractor on and off.
They just unveiled your inspired product at WOC’24! Cordless too
If only there was another tool company that has stacking tool boxes that locked onto their Vacuum cleaner. :)
Fesstool has just that, your able to stack there storage boxes on top.its a company out of Germany. Only downside is there really expensive, check it out tho
The reason Milwaukee hasn't come out with something like this is that it has the potential to be very top heavy!
Wrong. Nilfisk (the company that make this vacuum) makes a mount for the top for some of the other pack-out style L-Boxx accessories. Just not Milwaukee.
Bad ass! imma have to do this mod, thanks for doing this vid!
I would have made it level with a place for accessories under the mounting plate
Buddy. Looks like they listened you and soon 🔜 it will be for sale. Really waiting for new one.
Great build !!! Lihe a festool system, gerat video !!
Thanks for watching its gonna be great for job sites!
3-1/4 in. x 2-1/2 in. Galvanized Heavy Angle will do.
great build, I bet they will come out with something as soon as one of the big wigs see this.
😉😉😉 they’ll pretend it was their idea
From an old man slowly moving from Milwaukee to Festool, your 🎉”Histool” has me rethinking the whole idea :-) seriously great job that looks like it will get the job done.
In reverse the process would have been easier. cut tabs, insert into plastic add super glue drop to top of tab push onto the bar. that would have positioned the tabs for welding on your weld table. Once the tabs are in position and fitted onto the vac, then drill and tap in situ. So basically your process in reverse and a whole lot easier with 100% accuracy of hole location. Love your concept idea.
Sweet!
Very Good!
I was thinking somehow if you could have designed and made a top that is removable so that it is not a permanent fixture. You can have the aluminium welding as far as I'm concerned I'm not going to do any aluminium welding. I haven't even done tig yet. Although I have a tig welder and wire fed welder. I have been thinking about getting packout. At the moment I have festool, dewalt tool boxes and some makita tool boxes which is the systainer. After my festool vacuum ran away from home. I don't know why my festool left me we not once exchanged angry words.I bought a starmix type matabo vacuum as it was a little less expensive than the festool. Although it doesn't have carrying capabilities than the festool. In saying this the festool did break some plastic on the top. So your design really is more robust. Well done.
Curious how you like this extractor generally? Havent seen too many reviews online...
It’s been great so far, it’s just pretty heavy to move around. I wind up using my cordless m18 ones a lot more and this one only comes out to long term projects
The actual genius of this is to make the base "pack out" box useful as is, where is. Otherwise you have to unpack the whole stack to get into that box. Especially good w/2nd box = drawers.
What remote is that on the end of the hose?
Milwaukee didn't do it because this is a nilkfisk dust extractor rebranded as milwaukee also do them as mirka some other german brand etc
They still could have made the adapter!
What is a cube shape?
Very nice! Could have this same solution be made by 3D printing?
Many of these large companies don't have their own design office / people, but farm it out to design companies who may have experience in many directions - but NO firm and focused experience with the actual product.
As a result, those products will always benefit from further design and development in addition to the initial costs to get it into production in the first place. Usually rushed through in order to satisfy shareholders or non-technical management.
Believe me, I KNOW what I'm talking about.
My personal opinion, I wouldn’t want a vac that big to be attached to my pack out. Seems like it’d be a task to take it anywhere.
But the plastic wheels won't handle reliably the extra weight... I think you need to custom fit some tires too
Aluminum needs to be super clean. The sharpie marks or what ever you used to mark the location should have been cleaned off with Acetone along with both aluminum parts. Also, use a heat sink to disperse some of the heat from the aluminum.
All the tool companies are in it to make money. That's why you don't get everything at once. Everything is sold separately for more profits. Trust they will come out with it soon enough. It will also be unreasonably expensive and be it's own kit.
Charles Lanier . You are correct. Tools don't come out all at once. Newer designs are sitting waiting till the right time also batteries are inflated prices. I believe batteries have a cycle life built into them. So many batteries I have owned are dropping cells. At the moment my festool batteries hold up really well. Also my panasonic batteries. the panasonic are the older 3.3 amp hour 14 volt. I spoke to an electrician who used panasonic and he stated the older batteries were better than the newer 3.5 amp hour. So whatever has been done at the factory or manufacture is clandestine. We are no dummy.we know the batteries drop out a lot earlier than they should.
You should charge Milwakee for the idea! ;)
When they see what you did they'll steal your idea and make a mint!
Inventing is a bit much, but it is a good copy/mod modelled after the Festool/systainer/makpac design.
If the aluminum wasn't against the iron table it would have heated easier
The reason Milwaukee has put pack out grid on top of it is on purpose.
They didn’t design the vacuum. And the people who designed the vacuum didn’t design it to be load bearing.
Milwaukee knows if they put pack out grid on top of it, some guy is going to stack 200+lbs of tool boxes on top of it.
This will end up breaking off the vacuum wheels, and causing unsafe tipping hazards that they’ll eventually get sued for when some guy yanks his vacuum hose and tips 200lbs of tools onto some union worker’s steel toe boots and puts him out of work for a month.
Thats not a milwaukee. Thats a Nilfisk attix
Because Makita has it and that's the best brand....made in Japan rules worldwide these days.
There is a reason why people buy Festool….
Or Bosch professional 😉
Nice work, subbd