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Honestly legal action is one of my favorite weapons for trials. Stability enhancements with target acquisition and rampage makes this weapon one of the best. As others have mentioned this scope feels like a scout rifle that can easily deal with any hand cannon/sniper user at range
I feel like you'll definitely find great use with it's scope especially on this week's map, but outside of that, I feel like it's zoom may hinder any engagements you find yourself in that aren't super long range based
6:40 Quick little note that under pressure can basically count as opening shot. It increases your accuracy with a lower mag which basically means that you spawn with an accuracy boost for both of your shots whilst letting you have snapshot as well. Its basically the equivalent of snapshot opening shot if you get under pressure snapshot.
Big thing about legal action is that it’s zoom makes it easily outrange any pulse in the game so if you can get a roll that just gives stability perks your kill range won’t suffer for it and it feels amazing however it’s hard to recommend it over messenger that has either kill clip which makes getting two taps a joke/melts supers or desperado which just annihilates anything in your sight
Kindled orchid with kill clip+rampage was HJONKing awesome. Also, “sleeper” means something that is good but not popular hence people “sleeping” on something… ie: “a pretty sleeper perk selection” means you actually think the perks are good.
Yeah. As far as I know the slang originated from car culture, where the sleeper car model isn’t known for being powerful or is styled to look unkept, but the engine is a modified powerhouse. So I’d say it’s even more about appearances vs performance than popularity. But the gaming culture treats the term a bit differently.
@@iESCAP1SM there’s a difference between a sleeper and something being slept on sleeper is something that seems like it will suck but is actually real good and being slept on is something that’s good but no one uses because they may not know about it
The main reason why I use Scathelocke for PVP is for its default zoom. The higher zoom helps to push out its range and "stickiness" (on a controller pleb). Arrowhead brake makes it near vertical for little deviation on the recoil, and it has the same recoil direction of The Forward Path. As Path cannot roll barrels (rolls scopes instead), I feel it pulls out ahead of it. The Last Breath is definitely better for PVE though, hands down. If you're on controller, definitely try out a Scathelocke before you dismantle it, it's not for everyone but you might like it. 😁
Honestly the thing that make Legal Action so good is the zoom which puts it in scout/ sniper range. It is pretty situational but when it works it shreds and a two burst from far will make you wonder why scouts aren’t buffed yet.
I think demonjoe missed the Zoom on this weapon. It's not just nostalgia, and it's not beat out in every category, the zoom alone makes me prefer this over other Kinetic 600s because of its comfortable range. Forward path has similar stats and options on scopes, but that muzzle flash is horrendous. Scathelock is clean. And a lot of players are sleeping on Osmosis, the perk is on the rise given the recent elemental interactions - new and upcoming elemental well mods, Precious scars, Verity's etc. He also missed the same stat on Legal Action. Legal action has higher base zoom putting its effective range higher than its peers in the kinetic slot. That's good reason to run it in PVP and GMs.
I used scathelocke in yr1 and its return to me is awesome but i have to say the gun is even more amazing and the perk pool is really good in pve and pvp... i agree that the zoom is so good for clearing ads or killing guardians overall a solid weapon and my joint favourite auto.
If you go to the season of the spicer section of the umbral recaster, you can focus for worldy engrams for no legendary shards. Very nice for when you have all of your inventory and postmaster full of umbrals.
good vid joe. not sure if you knew this but as far as snipers/special weapons with frenzy, it's actually not terrible if you're rocking a primary weapon also with frenzy. you can proc with the primary weapon, and then swap to as special weapon with frenzy to continue the buff.
i got a legal action with feeding frenzy + frenzy and it is ridiculous how good it is in pve. it is also great for unstoppable mod this season. for pvp, 2 seasons ago i got the messenger god roll (rapid hit + desperado) from jumping off the map so i am covered on both sides of the game with a high impact pulse rifle 👍🏼
Legal Action technically outranges Messenger. I know it doesn’t appear that way, but zoom affects falloff range also, and when you consider that it has slightly higher falloff and significantly higher zoom, along with an incredibly clean sight, It’s actually pretty damn good for ranged fights.
Blast furnace feeding frenzy(pre nerf) /rampage was my pve go to for pulse rifles for the instant I got it it was one of those weapons that just felt right and of course kindled orchid with kill clip rampage rocked that with militias birthright and anarchy never got mountain top was one of my favorite load outs when I wasn’t HJONKing around.
some of the Froge weapons that really Hjonked my horn we're the curated Hammerhead (Feeding Frenzy + Rampage), curated Ringing Nail (Dragonfly + Rampage), and my Blast Furnace with Feeding Frenzy + Rampage. I ended up grinding for all the curated Forge drops just to have them for my personal collection but the damn blast furnace never dropped for me. Luckily I still had my FF+Ram roll with well over 18k PvE Kills before the Great Sunset.
I dont like non-burst sidearms as well but then I got a gravebuckler punching out (graverobber with swashbuckler) so now I have to use it in all melee builds xD. Hjonk. At least it's full auto...
Poop on Scathelocke if you must, but at 20 zoom (the only one mind you) it has 25% more range than any other 600 AR, and that has proven to be incredibly valuable to me to get those long range PvE kills. (My roll is Arrowhead, tac mag, subsistence, multi-killclip, range MW and it rocks) I even put my god roll Chroma Rush away for this gun after 10k kills.
I've had and have been using a HJONK Legal Action II for a while now, even after the loot-fest of last week's Trials (I'm a solo) as no Measenger dropped for me. I have a god-roll, too, and it's nice enough when I'm not using No Time to Explain. I'm crossing my fingers for a Messenger this weekend.
same, played trials this and last week, got to mythic 1 rank, got like 8 after-7-wins trials engrams rewards for winning, got an adept reed's with tripe tap firing line and I turned all the engrams into the cryptarch, yet still no messenger.
My third rank-up engram last week was a Triple Tap/Firing Line Reed's Regret :D Also got a Vorpal Eye of Sol and a meh Shayura's Wrath, which is still my best elemental SMG. Mostly armor, otherwise, which is completely fine with me, I'm trying to build out a solid PvP armor set. I've yet to go Flawless, though. I'm too terribad and filthy casual to ever expect Adept loot. I think I got 2? post-7-wins drops. Maybe? After my 25th straight loss, I stopped. We'll see how tonight and tomorrow go for me....
I have a Subsistence + Rampage roll on my Scathelocke, almost an identical copy to my Gnawing Hunger in terms of perks, but the zoom on the scope makes me hip fire this weapon most of the time if the target is less than 10m away from me
You should have mentioned Scathelock is one of the two autos in the kinetic slot with Osmosis, with all of the elemental well builds, it's a nice addition. But kind of hard to farm for compared to the Prophecy auto.
I think Legal Action is easier to Obtain and just farm generally.. plus it doesn’t require any random RNG like The Messenger and a ton of Trails Engrams All you need are Umbrals which are easy to get and just focud them until you get a good Legal Action.. honestly I like my Feeding Frezy/Frenzy roll on my Legal Action
there is 4 high impact pulses in game atm, ya forgot stars in Shadow. legal action has more range because of its zoom stat than any of the others in game (sometimes not a good thing tho) and with a recoil direction of 70 with a +15 from counter balance its pretty much perfectly vertical recoil.
Very informative for someone that has recently just got back to Destiny 2 and has absolutely no idea what are the best perks for weapons that I should keep my eye for. Is there some resource online where this is all documented and listed? I know at the end of the day it's personal preference for some of the perks but just having an overall idea would be great. Appreciate it.
Funny thing, is that even though I have a messenger, I main Legal Action. I just love the look and sound of the Gun to still pass messenger overall. Not to say that messenger is bad, it’s that I’m more willing to use legal since it just looks meaner design wise. Messenger is good, like I said, and I agree, with no access to trials for some people, Legal is the closest thing to a messenger for free to play players. Perks that make the stats of a gun better is a higher priority for me over just damage perks. If the stats are good, I can run for a damage perk. Legal can do damage but needs help with stats, so I recommend surplus as a mainstay perk.
Not mentioning No Distractions as one of the best dueling perks on Contingency Plan is criminal. Combined with Kill Clip, that weapon helped carry me to flawless last weekend.
I have a godroll legal action ll with frenzy and feeding frenzy. I kinda just use it to give it to my lower light characters and infuse with higher power la2's
There's 2 more high impact pulses. And Premonition outshines all of them in my opinion. Maybe you were just talking about kinetics? Zen moment/head seeker is great. 2 bursting in crucible without needing a kill before, and giving you void for the shields in pve.
You only mentioned the kinectic high impact PRs. Premonition and stars in shadow are in the energy slot. Legall action also out ranges every other primary that isnt a scout or bow. Only third axiom and Jian 7 can duel at the same range as legal action, if not farther.
is this due to zoom? if so, then that means u need a secondary for close-range fights, and since there are not many long sightlines where this could be useful, I think messenger still definitely edges it out for me.
Legal Action is a solid choice for free-to-play players looking for a high-impact kinetic pulse if they don't really jive with Cold Denial. Since Trials is now paid content, The Messenger is no longer available to F2P guardians.
You never mentioned the range of skathlocke almost every roll can break 30 meters of range. My role which is heating up rampage gets to 34 metres that's hand cannon range all thanks to the 20 zoom. which wasn't show in the comparison because you used the old vanilla skathlocke for it.
Firing line is not bugged ehroar did a video on the subject but to summarize the damage bonus is only effective on the headshot damage so if your weapon deals 10 000 bodyshot damage and 20 000(so 10 000 headshot damage and 10 000 bodyshot) headshot damage the buff will change the heashot damage with this formula:(20 000 -10 000)×1.2= 12 000 instead of 10 000 So instead of doing 20 000 damage you do 22 000 damage
The real reason to use legal action is that we haven’t got hakke weapons in ages. Also ringing nail, blast,orchid and hammer are all amazing froge weapons
You seemed to completely ignore the zoom stat and both the scathelocke and the legal action. Scathelocke is easily the farthest reaching ar and legal action the same. Even in the stat comparison you used the old version of scathelocke that had 16 zoom not 20.
@@dracomeister7684 I have 6 rolls of both. I was just mentioning the forward path as being a viable option as well in the kinetic slot for 600s. Easy bro.
@@dracomeister7684 no they don't, steady hand gives +10 to both handling and stability and 5 aim assistance, while the best option in barrels is fluted barrel, giving 15 handling and 5 stability, losing the +5 aim assistance.
10:30 It's the ZOOM! HJONK! Zoom is the entire reason people like this thing. It really is one of the most important stats in the game, and this thing has 20 of it. So don't discount it entirely.
I mean legal action actually has a better damage drop off than messenger And while id never swap to it over my outlaw desperado baby, its still a good gun for any pvp content
I ground the rest of my soul to nothing for months getting both the curated and a rangefinder explosive payload just to have them to be victims of the sunset months later. That gun got me hooked on hand cannons but non of the others come close. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HJONK!!!!
Hey Joe, I'm pretty new to destiny 2, started playing about 2 weeks ago. I'm now around power level 1320, but I would really like to know the best way to get exotics...and tysm for the content.
Legendary/master Lost sectors on rotation, xur, all the quests for exotics., Season pass, vendor reset (zavalla Lord shax gambit, trials) And the rest is just playing the game :)
I like Spoiler alert cos it looks like a Glock 17 lol. But Scathelocke redeeming factor is that you cannot get Forward Path anymore. These are the 2 600 RPM kinetics that easily touch on 360 RPM ranges. It even easily outranges 450 like 7th Seraph Carbine.
I'm one of those people who like sidearms a lot, and I think spoiler alert has good potential, but I'd rather use Farewell, the keening, or traveler's chosen, if I'm looking for a semi-auto sidearm
11:02 I know the adaptive sidearms aren't the best, but you might wanna try Traveler's Chosen with the catalyst as it's definitely an outlier, if not the best sidearm.
*Is intensely figuring out how to fit HJONK into a sentence* 12:25 is poggers moment btw Also, I have to tell you reader of this comment about this video TDT made on the contingency plan, check it out, you will learn why this is so good for pvp.
I like sidearms decently enough and I can confirm, nothing fun about spoiler alert. Most other sidearms are more fun and easier to use. Also my fav Black Froge weapon is probably Hammerhead. That thing HJONKs.
I completely disagree with u on PVE scathelock, it’s perk pool and feel is definitely better then the trials of the nine auto rifle, but to each there own.
I... don't understand the bit about fusion rifles, if its abt particle deconstruction, its here to stay for just the season, cuz otherwise, snipers do less damage than fusions or slug shotguns cuz they re designed as a safer option compared to the other 2.
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legal action has much higher range over messenger, so thats better (and its by like.. a solid 8ish meters)
Honestly legal action is one of my favorite weapons for trials. Stability enhancements with target acquisition and rampage makes this weapon one of the best. As others have mentioned this scope feels like a scout rifle that can easily deal with any hand cannon/sniper user at range
I feel like you'll definitely find great use with it's scope especially on this week's map, but outside of that, I feel like it's zoom may hinder any engagements you find yourself in that aren't super long range based
I just don't like the way it sounds.
It sounds like a paintball gun. Rofl
I read it as legal action is a powerful weapon. Was quite confused
It has really high zoom
Plus the range that they can get is simply superior to the messenger. Don't be overlooking that so easily.
6:40
Quick little note that under pressure can basically count as opening shot.
It increases your accuracy with a lower mag which basically means that you spawn with an accuracy boost for both of your shots whilst letting you have snapshot as well. Its basically the equivalent of snapshot opening shot if you get under pressure snapshot.
Big thing about legal action is that it’s zoom makes it easily outrange any pulse in the game so if you can get a roll that just gives stability perks your kill range won’t suffer for it and it feels amazing however it’s hard to recommend it over messenger that has either kill clip which makes getting two taps a joke/melts supers or desperado which just annihilates anything in your sight
yea, desperado is so fun when u get it to proc, and start on a rampage.
pun not intended
Kindled orchid with kill clip+rampage was HJONKing awesome. Also, “sleeper” means something that is good but not popular hence people “sleeping” on something… ie: “a pretty sleeper perk selection” means you actually think the perks are good.
Yeah. As far as I know the slang originated from car culture, where the sleeper car model isn’t known for being powerful or is styled to look unkept, but the engine is a modified powerhouse. So I’d say it’s even more about appearances vs performance than popularity. But the gaming culture treats the term a bit differently.
@@iESCAP1SM there’s a difference between a sleeper and something being slept on sleeper is something that seems like it will suck but is actually real good and being slept on is something that’s good but no one uses because they may not know about it
@@-thebatman- yeah, that’s a good clarification right there. Well put
The main reason why I use Scathelocke for PVP is for its default zoom. The higher zoom helps to push out its range and "stickiness" (on a controller pleb).
Arrowhead brake makes it near vertical for little deviation on the recoil, and it has the same recoil direction of The Forward Path. As Path cannot roll barrels (rolls scopes instead), I feel it pulls out ahead of it. The Last Breath is definitely better for PVE though, hands down.
If you're on controller, definitely try out a Scathelocke before you dismantle it, it's not for everyone but you might like it. 😁
Legal Action II with Surplus/Rampage is quickly becoming my favorite kinetic pulse. Feels way better than the Messenger
Honestly the thing that make Legal Action so good is the zoom which puts it in scout/ sniper range. It is pretty situational but when it works it shreds and a two burst from far will make you wonder why scouts aren’t buffed yet.
Scathelocke has higher zoom scope which equals more range. Because of the higher zoom some people may not like it but it wrecks in pvp
I think demonjoe missed the Zoom on this weapon. It's not just nostalgia, and it's not beat out in every category, the zoom alone makes me prefer this over other Kinetic 600s because of its comfortable range. Forward path has similar stats and options on scopes, but that muzzle flash is horrendous. Scathelock is clean. And a lot of players are sleeping on Osmosis, the perk is on the rise given the recent elemental interactions - new and upcoming elemental well mods, Precious scars, Verity's etc.
He also missed the same stat on Legal Action. Legal action has higher base zoom putting its effective range higher than its peers in the kinetic slot. That's good reason to run it in PVP and GMs.
I used scathelocke in yr1 and its return to me is awesome but i have to say the gun is even more amazing and the perk pool is really good in pve and pvp... i agree that the zoom is so good for clearing ads or killing guardians overall a solid weapon and my joint favourite auto.
I believe that Firmly planted with Frenzy on Contingency plan is nasty, especially in GMs for controller users
why firmly planted? does it buff reload? if it doesn't;t I would recommend surplus instead, scouts have enough aim assist as it is imo.
@@Valorant_Simplified Because it make the weapon more accurate and stable when crouching, and this is super useful in end-game for controller users
Blast furnace with feeding frenzy and kill clip was absolutely bae.
If you go to the season of the spicer section of the umbral recaster, you can focus for worldy engrams for no legendary shards. Very nice for when you have all of your inventory and postmaster full of umbrals.
yea, but shards are in such a surplus that it doesn't matter much either way.
good vid joe. not sure if you knew this but as far as snipers/special weapons with frenzy, it's actually not terrible if you're rocking a primary weapon also with frenzy. you can proc with the primary weapon, and then swap to as special weapon with frenzy to continue the buff.
i got a legal action with feeding frenzy + frenzy and it is ridiculous how good it is in pve. it is also great for unstoppable mod this season.
for pvp, 2 seasons ago i got the messenger god roll (rapid hit + desperado) from jumping off the map so i am covered on both sides of the game with a high impact pulse rifle 👍🏼
lmao i thought i was having a stroke reading feeding frenzy + frenzy. Anyways, that reload speed must be through the roof.
Legal Action technically outranges Messenger. I know it doesn’t appear that way, but zoom affects falloff range also, and when you consider that it has slightly higher falloff and significantly higher zoom, along with an incredibly clean sight,
It’s actually pretty damn good for ranged fights.
I only like legal action because it has THE best scope in the entire game. It’s not even up for debate
I won't argue with you there, I actually very much enjoy the scope!
If that thing had slightly better perks / more variety, I'd be so much in love
For me the best scope is the darkest before..
*angry omniscient eye noises*
Messengers scope is def better.
My favorite forge weapon was Blast Furnace. I miss that gun. I hope they bring it back.
My annual skate with outlaw and dragonfly is my go to for solar and Stasis strikes paired with Agers sceptor. Spicy
I just got a Legal Action pulse with feeding frenzy and rampage yesterday and it’s quickly becoming my favorite pulse. It just deletes things
Blast furnace feeding frenzy(pre nerf) /rampage was my pve go to for pulse rifles for the instant I got it it was one of those weapons that just felt right and of course kindled orchid with kill clip rampage rocked that with militias birthright and anarchy never got mountain top was one of my favorite load outs when I wasn’t HJONKing around.
some of the Froge weapons that really Hjonked my horn we're the curated Hammerhead (Feeding Frenzy + Rampage), curated Ringing Nail (Dragonfly + Rampage), and my Blast Furnace with Feeding Frenzy + Rampage. I ended up grinding for all the curated Forge drops just to have them for my personal collection but the damn blast furnace never dropped for me. Luckily I still had my FF+Ram roll with well over 18k PvE Kills before the Great Sunset.
Check the zoom stats on Scathelocke and Legal Action, it's what separates those guns from the pack.
I dont like non-burst sidearms as well but then I got a gravebuckler punching out (graverobber with swashbuckler) so now I have to use it in all melee builds xD. Hjonk. At least it's full auto...
Got a taste contingency plan and it got me through trails
Poop on Scathelocke if you must, but at 20 zoom (the only one mind you) it has 25% more range than any other 600 AR, and that has proven to be incredibly valuable to me to get those long range PvE kills. (My roll is Arrowhead, tac mag, subsistence, multi-killclip, range MW and it rocks) I even put my god roll Chroma Rush away for this gun after 10k kills.
EXACTLY, though I must say, what are you doing without eye of the storm, it very gud trust me
Nice breakdown of the weapons!
I've had and have been using a HJONK Legal Action II for a while now, even after the loot-fest of last week's Trials (I'm a solo) as no Measenger dropped for me. I have a god-roll, too, and it's nice enough when I'm not using No Time to Explain. I'm crossing my fingers for a Messenger this weekend.
same, played trials this and last week, got to mythic 1 rank, got like 8 after-7-wins trials engrams rewards for winning, got an adept reed's with tripe tap firing line and I turned all the engrams into the cryptarch, yet still no messenger.
My third rank-up engram last week was a Triple Tap/Firing Line Reed's Regret :D Also got a Vorpal Eye of Sol and a meh Shayura's Wrath, which is still my best elemental SMG. Mostly armor, otherwise, which is completely fine with me, I'm trying to build out a solid PvP armor set. I've yet to go Flawless, though. I'm too terribad and filthy casual to ever expect Adept loot. I think I got 2? post-7-wins drops. Maybe? After my 25th straight loss, I stopped. We'll see how tonight and tomorrow go for me....
I got a scathelock with heating up and rampage
Arrowhead, steady, and range masterwork. It's become my favorite kinetic this season
Honestly I loved all of the Black Armory Weapons.
But I personally love Auto Rifles so...
The Ringing Nail, and Gallard 42 Hjonk
I have a Subsistence + Rampage roll on my Scathelocke, almost an identical copy to my Gnawing Hunger in terms of perks, but the zoom on the scope makes me hip fire this weapon most of the time if the target is less than 10m away from me
Yea, but the zoom is what makes it unique
Dragonfly on my annual skate is awesome it's like a mini sunshot
Got an outlaw/Dragonfly annual skate, man I'm happy 🤩
Finally bungie understand people like payload on HC. We have 3 'new' HC this season that have payload (annual skate,vulpucela,judgment)
You should have mentioned Scathelock is one of the two autos in the kinetic slot with Osmosis, with all of the elemental well builds, it's a nice addition. But kind of hard to farm for compared to the Prophecy auto.
I think Legal Action is easier to Obtain and just farm generally.. plus it doesn’t require any random RNG like The Messenger and a ton of Trails Engrams
All you need are Umbrals which are easy to get and just focud them until you get a good Legal Action.. honestly I like my Feeding Frezy/Frenzy roll on my Legal Action
there is 4 high impact pulses in game atm, ya forgot stars in Shadow. legal action has more range because of its zoom stat than any of the others in game (sometimes not a good thing tho) and with a recoil direction of 70 with a +15 from counter balance its pretty much perfectly vertical recoil.
Clemson fan.. nice! Waiting for my Noles to get back to prominence!
Kindled orchid and blast furnace, also liked the AR’s curated roll too Hjonk
hammerhead has some words for you
The Uzume Live joke just made me laugh. Holy shit it's such a dumb joke, but WOW I'm literally crying lmfaooooooo
Very informative for someone that has recently just got back to Destiny 2 and has absolutely no idea what are the best perks for weapons that I should keep my eye for.
Is there some resource online where this is all documented and listed?
I know at the end of the day it's personal preference for some of the perks but just having an overall idea would be great.
Appreciate it.
I have a threat detector rampage scathelock and it’s one of my favorite auto rifles (along with my outlaw firefly chrysura melo)
legal action is not the best pulse rifle , but is decent for someone who don´t have the dlc to play trials and get the messenger
It's got some of the best rolls possible for pulses, with the exception of desperado.
Funny thing, is that even though I have a messenger, I main Legal Action. I just love the look and sound of the Gun to still pass messenger overall. Not to say that messenger is bad, it’s that I’m more willing to use legal since it just looks meaner design wise.
Messenger is good, like I said, and I agree, with no access to trials for some people, Legal is the closest thing to a messenger for free to play players. Perks that make the stats of a gun better is a higher priority for me over just damage perks. If the stats are good, I can run for a damage perk. Legal can do damage but needs help with stats, so I recommend surplus as a mainstay perk.
yeah, but for new players i tend to direct them to auto rifles, smg's and higher rate of fire pulses. It's an easier learning curve overall
@@bennygerow yeah , and you can have 100 recoil
@@TheDarkkilla12 yes , i try to use legal action in pvp but i don´t know , i think its just not for me , but in pve i like it
Not mentioning No Distractions as one of the best dueling perks on Contingency Plan is criminal. Combined with Kill Clip, that weapon helped carry me to flawless last weekend.
Oh dear God my favorite black armory weapon was the galliard 42! That thing was Hjonkers!
HJONK HJONK!!! My favorite black armory weapons are kindled orchid and tatara gaze. With the power of kill clip, both weapons are BJONKERS!!!
My fav black armoury weapons were Hammerhead and Blast Furnace! They were an absolute HJONK in both pve and pvp.
same but the hammerhead is power capped now :2
Play some osiris on annual skate w/first shot+outlaw. Feels fine if u have almost 5k hours in damn cs
I have a godroll legal action ll with frenzy and feeding frenzy. I kinda just use it to give it to my lower light characters and infuse with higher power la2's
There's 2 more high impact pulses.
And Premonition outshines all of them in my opinion. Maybe you were just talking about kinetics?
Zen moment/head seeker is great.
2 bursting in crucible without needing a kill before, and giving you void for the shields in pve.
Welcome back, hope you had fun. Hjonk!
Clemson fan?! Go Tigers! Love the vids!
Hjonk! I miss the hammerhead LMG that needs to return with current/new perk pool
hammerhead's and all of the back armory weapon scopes and sights were soo dope, the entire aesthetic needs to return.
I’m gonna use my Scathelock and you can’t stop me
You only mentioned the kinectic high impact PRs. Premonition and stars in shadow are in the energy slot.
Legall action also out ranges every other primary that isnt a scout or bow.
Only third axiom and Jian 7 can duel at the same range as legal action, if not farther.
is this due to zoom? if so, then that means u need a secondary for close-range fights, and since there are not many long sightlines where this could be useful, I think messenger still definitely edges it out for me.
love your videos!
Legal Action is a solid choice for free-to-play players looking for a high-impact kinetic pulse if they don't really jive with Cold Denial. Since Trials is now paid content, The Messenger is no longer available to F2P guardians.
I miss traveller's judgement... mine had rapid hit tap the trigger and was a laser in pvp.
You never mentioned the range of skathlocke almost every roll can break 30 meters of range. My role which is heating up rampage gets to 34 metres that's hand cannon range all thanks to the 20 zoom. which wasn't show in the comparison because you used the old vanilla skathlocke for it.
Firing line is not bugged ehroar did a video on the subject but to summarize the damage bonus is only effective on the headshot damage so if your weapon deals 10 000 bodyshot damage and 20 000(so 10 000 headshot damage and 10 000 bodyshot) headshot damage the buff will change the heashot damage with this formula:(20 000 -10 000)×1.2= 12 000 instead of 10 000
So instead of doing 20 000 damage you do 22 000 damage
I remember using so many of these year 1, I wonder if Devarim is pumping out refurbished models or still stuck with the ragged surplus crap?
The real reason to use legal action is that we haven’t got hakke weapons in ages.
Also ringing nail, blast,orchid and hammer are all amazing froge weapons
You seemed to completely ignore the zoom stat and both the scathelocke and the legal action. Scathelocke is easily the farthest reaching ar and legal action the same. Even in the stat comparison you used the old version of scathelocke that had 16 zoom not 20.
I've been using The Forward Path with comes with scope options. I use the rifle scope which gives it crazy range even with steady rounds.
Barrels give better stats than scopes
Combined with scathelock having a cracked af scope already it’s not worth comparing
@@dracomeister7684 I have 6 rolls of both. I was just mentioning the forward path as being a viable option as well in the kinetic slot for 600s. Easy bro.
@@dracomeister7684 no they don't, steady hand gives +10 to both handling and stability and 5 aim assistance, while the best option in barrels is fluted barrel, giving 15 handling and 5 stability, losing the +5 aim assistance.
with the scathelocke yes, but with legal action, it alr has such high range that it doesn't really matter.
HJONK le Monarque is my favorite black armory weapon HJONK
I had a god roll blast furnace, gutted it got sunsetted.
does true prophecy drop out of the world loot pool focused engrams??
hey, quick note about scathelocke, I think your numbers are old. It has a zoom of 20 which makes it really useful compared to other 600s at 16 zoom
Hjonk, Blast Furnace and Hammerhead with Kindled Orichid but with the same perk pool as it was at that time ffs
10:30 It's the ZOOM! HJONK! Zoom is the entire reason people like this thing. It really is one of the most important stats in the game, and this thing has 20 of it. So don't discount it entirely.
Legal action has more range than a full range messenger
At base, it’s insane
Is “leaving the house” like a new dlc cause I’ve never heard of it
Thanks for the insight fam. Hjonk
is dire promise still in the loot pool?
I mean legal action actually has a better damage drop off than messenger
And while id never swap to it over my outlaw desperado baby, its still a good gun for any pvp content
I ground the rest of my soul to nothing for months getting both the curated and a rangefinder explosive payload just to have them to be victims of the sunset months later. That gun got me hooked on hand cannons but non of the others come close. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HJONK!!!!
which hand cannon is this lol
unrelated question , but does anyone know the titan gauntlets he has on the annual skate part?
Hey Joe, I'm pretty new to destiny 2, started playing about 2 weeks ago. I'm now around power level 1320, but I would really like to know the best way to get exotics...and tysm for the content.
Legendary/master Lost sectors on rotation, xur, all the quests for exotics., Season pass, vendor reset (zavalla Lord shax gambit, trials)
And the rest is just playing the game :)
@@Tagger948 Thank you so much😊
Hjonk your horns for Blast Furnace getting un-sunset! :)
Gotta love a good ol ginger nut with my morning tea.
Thanks for this. Helps me decide which versions to trash
I like Spoiler alert cos it looks like a Glock 17 lol.
But Scathelocke redeeming factor is that you cannot get Forward Path anymore.
These are the 2 600 RPM kinetics that easily touch on 360 RPM ranges.
It even easily outranges 450 like 7th Seraph Carbine.
HJONKK, I miss and need my blast furnace back!
comment to support video.
JOEY!!!! Good shit on that vacation.
I'm one of those people who like sidearms a lot, and I think spoiler alert has good potential, but I'd rather use Farewell, the keening, or traveler's chosen, if I'm looking for a semi-auto sidearm
I'd rather use posterity if I wanted a semi-auto sidearm. Wait...
Try sidearm from Europa and the one that drops from prophecy dungeon former trials weapon.
@@paultrapp300 I've tried those two. Good sidearms
11:02 I know the adaptive sidearms aren't the best, but you might wanna try Traveler's Chosen with the catalyst as it's definitely an outlier, if not the best sidearm.
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Love your work but you are wrong about scathelocke. The range beats all other 600rpms. Subsitence rampage with that range "mwa chefs kiss"
Favourite black armory weapon is ~Hammerhead~ Corrective measure, but what do I know I didn’t even play during black armory, I’m a new hjonk
>:(
*Is intensely figuring out how to fit HJONK into a sentence*
12:25 is poggers moment btw
Also, I have to tell you reader of this comment about this video TDT made on the contingency plan, check it out, you will learn why this is so good for pvp.
Ugh legal action is weird she has mad zoom. Like the gun is a sniper and the feeding frenzy can go out of control but you have to WORK FOR IT lmao
she? ok then lol
@@Valorant_Simplified tell me that legsl action doesnt look like a lady lmao its like cars or boats
What happened to your legendary shards?
Probs used at the cryptark lol
Yup, Cryptarch ate them all! LOL
@@demonjoe dam should have hit up the loot cave
Probs got thanos snapped by the cryptarch
I mean despacito on the messenger is just a perk you can't really compete with.
wait despacito is on the messenger?
its just a perk which blasts music into a person's ear when u kill them
I like sidearms decently enough and I can confirm, nothing fun about spoiler alert. Most other sidearms are more fun and easier to use. Also my fav Black Froge weapon is probably Hammerhead. That thing HJONKs.
I completely disagree with u on PVE scathelock, it’s perk pool and feel is definitely better then the trials of the nine auto rifle, but to each there own.
They really need to puff snipers in pve, they are so underpowered at the moment, and are definitely getting no usage because of fusion rifles
I... don't understand the bit about fusion rifles, if its abt particle deconstruction, its here to stay for just the season, cuz otherwise, snipers do less damage than fusions or slug shotguns cuz they re designed as a safer option compared to the other 2.
Yes
I didn't know Annual Skate had Warmind Cell potential.....
anything solar with explosions has warmind cell potential, but warmind cells arent that good now
A reminder that I accidentally deleted a god roll Annual Skate
Blast furnace and hammerhead hjonk
Don’t even mess with scathelocke
Good luck
such a bague comment, I find myself wondering what to reply with
@@Valorant_Simplified vague you mean