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British Officers' Kit
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
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exactly 0% of the viewers skipped the initial section
In time, I will be able to study the 'audience retention' curve and find out.
I have food sitting in front of me waiting to be eaten, and I still sat through the opening explanation. I'd argue we're pretty dedicated.
Good sir, your content is too interesting to skip. It honestly makes my day when I get notified of your next video and I believe the rest of the subscribers feel the same.
Some content creators are happy to waste their viewers' time.
With Lindybeige I'm reasonably confident in my expectation that any material he provides will be worth watching.
@@lindybeige I would like to apologize in advance for skipping over every single one of your sponsor mentions.
In my defense, TGC+ and Audible already have my money.
*Rare motion picture of Colonel Lindy B. Beige (The Battle Dentist) of the newly formed Royal Army Dental Corps gesticulating with his newly refurbished kit, 1921 colourised*
Also...
*"If you need a filling, call me."* Colonel Beige upon conversing with a group of ladies at an officer's ball, 1921.
I couldn't help but read that quote in lord flashhearts voice.
Reminds me of Capt. Ben L. Salomon... US Army Dentist... received medal of honor for fighting a rear-guard action against the Japanese, where he killed around 98.
Capt. Ben L. Salomon was a really rubbish dentist
@@renardgrise that was for real man an iron didn't need suit
He was drafted and one day they told him he is a dentist. Not really his fault that he was a bad dentist.
I would very much like a LindyBeige Fire Extinguisher
me too
Presumably for all those pesky fire arrows setting everything alight...
Would they have to be the foam type I wonder.
Instructions for use of the LindyBeige Fire Extinguisher:
1. Pull out the pin
2. Aim the LindyBeige Fire Extinguisher towards the center of the fire.
3. Yell out "LindyBeige" in a proper and articulate manner.
4. Extinguish the fire.
Lindybeige fire extinguishers for all of our fire arrows.
Jacob O'Dell the arrow is extremely dangerous and it have 100% chance of lighting things on fire
@@bluemooneatlions you do know fire arrows are extremely useless right
JTxXPHANTOMXx i believe it was as the kids call, “a joke”
@@starboy3735 yes i am aware of what jokes are it's just that most aren't that good
JTxXPHANTOMXx oh sure, Mr. clever
I expect you to wear that uniform in all of your future videos and shall be most disappointed if you don't.
Seconded
Prepare for disappointment.
Oversama: We may have to settle with an edited replacement of the lindybeige legoman/woman/transgender figure.
I wouldn't mind the odd jumper, but as long as there's always one beige shirt underneath it should be alright.
Butcha gotta get a beige shirt and tie, turnshoe boy.
The time is right for some Lindybeige branded cloaks
Yes! Beige of course. And perhaps with room for a backscabbard
An excellent proposition fellow sir or madam!
and daggers . . .
I would buy one
Tunics 100% wool please.
Lindybeige 2018 - "Military people like revolvers because they go 'bang'"
Technically not wrong
@@Dueilangoisseus - This is true; most of the cool stuff to do in the US Army involves making stuff go Ka-Boom! And shoot all kinds of guns. But that's the Ka-Boom! bit again.
Is this up to date or a WW2 british officer costume?
Yes. Why mention that? Non-military people like fireworks for that reason. Just as obvious. It gets funny when people confuse revolvers and fireworks. Hold at point blank by a man with a firecracker. Laugh my revolver out.
@@ralexcraft990 pre world war 2 generally, more like world war 1. I believe it was used mostly in conflicts the Boer Wars and other foreign affairs. So turn of the 20th century I guess.
I was told that the Pith Helmet was particularly effective in keeping the soldier cool in desert regions. You soaked it in water and it retained the moisture for quite some time. It didnt drip.
Wearing a damp hat in tropical climate. Bad idea. Basically you steam cook your head!
@@dukehazard2121 Deserts are non-tropical.
@@markjones9366 Well yes'. I concede you are correct.
I eagerly await lindybeige fire extinguishers with great anticipation.
They need to be colored red so they're visible though.
They did exist a few years ago beige was foam. Current regs say red with beige panel.
Perhaps they come with matching matches?
Matching, Cory! Matching! :-D
"Granted, I moisturize."
- Lindy Beige
" 'Granted, I moisturize'
-LIndy Beige"
-ALAPINO
Touché!
" ' "Granted, I moisturize"
-LIndy Beige'
-ALAPINO"
- Hideyoshi
"Granted, I moisturise"
-Lindybeige *
素晴らしいですね!
To the leather being creaky, that's actually the result of it being unworn. As it wears , say due to daily use, it will lose that stiffness. Equestrian equipment , bridles, stirrups, saddles ..etc.. make similar sounds when new.
If oiling and saddle soap doesn't sort it, try talc between the layers of leather.
Yeah i was gonna say that too. New leather always needs to be broken in. Most leather products are basically "unfinished" until you wear them for a while. After that they soften and conform to shapes well. Thats why leather shoes still cant be beat by other materials, after some wear they become like a second skin, and last an incredibly long time with proper care.
omg, you forgot the most important and memorable piece of British Officers Kit.... the stick.
@Marry Christmas The pace stick is carried by Warrant Officers. The cane (or swagger stick) can be carried by Officers. The blackthorn is carried if you are from a decent Regiment.
"Wouldn't want to face an enemy machine-gun without this!" -George, Blackadder goes forth.
Yes the walking stick
Used to point out locations on a map or the ground so the uniform would stay clean and tidy I think
"don't forget your stick Lieutenant"
"quite right Sir, Wouldn't want to face a German machine gun without this"
Blackadder Goes Forth "Goodbyee"
Operator Hoot wouldn't wonna go against machine guns without my stick
170 years of battlefield dentistry. The pistol is in case one of your procedures goes horribly wrong.
TommyMKY what video did this dentist meme come from? Im not up to snuff of my lindy lore
+Tanya Degurechaff
Wait for it .....
Stephan Brun yup
is the idea to use the revolver on the patient or himself?
CAP198462 why not both?
I clicked this link to learn about British Officers' Kit. I leave with the knowledge of how to tell if a lego figure is a man or a lady.
This is a stupid bit of recent Americanism. The word "pistol" has been around longer than either semiautos or revolvers. Is it a firearm meant to be fired with one hand? Then it's a goddam pistol. Get over it, autistic tardboys.
@@roentgen571 Dude!! Don't call 'em that, call 'em "Excessively Pedantic Blatherskites!!" it's fair and very painfully to the point... like it would be if it were aimed at me! XD
@@roentgen571 As an American, most people I know use the word pistol, unless they're trying to be specific, then they'll call it a revolver or a semiautomatic pistol
@Baongoc Le well atleast you learned sometyhing i'm still in the WTF phase after watching this. being American i can't tell when a Brit is serious or being a twit. in Mr. Lindy's case I am liening towards abit of both.
Hahahaha
“Do I look 170 years old to you? Granted, i moisturise...” lmao
13:05 "The truth is, the game was rigged from the start."
you love to see a fellow scholar
I'm impressed Google didn't retroactively censor this comment.
I did not know I needed a Lindybeige Fire Extinguisher until now.
If he was smart at marketing he'd also sell lindybeige matches and lighters.
Gallen Dugall My first reaction to this too
24:50 If you'd edited in a swap over to another camera location and back, at that point I would've lol'ed
I want one myself
Front of shirt: This is my lindybeige shirt
Back of shirt: more on that later
Yes.
"I've made another shirt where I'm explaining that in-depth." ;)
@@3.k and on the back side it’s basically a 3 meter long tapestry as a cape.
I live in the USA and I’ve always known a pistol to be either an automatic or a revolver... Fantastic video as well!
Seconded, I don't know where Lindybeige gets this notion that we don't refer to automatic pistols as pistols. Seems mis-informed.
Same. Pistol is synonymous with both revolvers and semi-automatics.
@@evanhaley7363 Not to me. I've always differentiated pistols and revolvers. (USA) Just depends on where you are, maybe.
@@robt7785 really? Everyone I know considers pistols to be the general category of one handed firearms, and revolver being a subcategory of pistol.
pistol: one handed firearm
revolver: a firearm with a revolving mechanism, often a pistol.
The US dept of justice defines a pistol as a one handed weapon with the chamber permanently aligned with the bore. So a pistol may be a semiautomatic, single shot or even a derringer. A revolver is of the pistol type with a revolving (not fixed) chamber. Now you know the rest of the story 😁
Why this guy doesn't have a PBS show is beyond me. He's great. Long Live Lindybeige!
Blimey I've only just noticed the cannabis leaves on the wall
I think the reason he doesn't have a PBS channel is that he is in Britain
Thank god he is on youtube and not some american pay-to-watch service
Those look more like some maple cultivar leaves (closer to Japanese maple), but they're most definitely not cannabis leaves.@@fairweathertrains3029
I want a Lindybeige flamethrower. The kids love that one.
Spaceballs!
I was just literally going to propose flamethrower when saw this
Musk did it, why not Lindybeige too xD
Do you think it would ship with the lindybeige fire extinguisher or would you have to buy one of those separately?
I can just imagine Lloyd deploying it with the same gusto as Hank Scorpio. It's a very fitting image.
That is one good looking kit!
ps: I want a Lindybeige fire extinguisher now, look at what you have done.
ps: Interesting to note that as you yourself said the drawing function of the Browne belt concept is very similar to that of a Roman Cingulum, that is one of its functions. The Roman belts bind everything together and it keeps the scabbard down.
Metatron
Metatron! How is that poor Norman spy doing after that taxing video of yours? lol
Fun fact: the hanging lether straps on the Roman belt are supposed to represent strips of pasta.
Right, we need those fire extinguishers to put out all those unnecessary torches and flaming arrows.
I want the Lindybeige inflatable pool. A man can dream, a man can dream.
As a former service member, those lower precedence medal ribbons we often called "Good Cookie" medals, AKA "you weren't a complete screw up, so here's a medal." In more modern terms, you could call them "participation awards." I had one for finishing basic training, for having been in for 4 years, having been at the same station for 3 years, for being a good shot, and for serving during wartime. My higher precedence ones were things like my unit getting a meritorious service award (3 times). Nothing close to my dad's naval commendation with a bronze star for bravery, but I was pretty happy with the few I had.
In the US Air Force, different medals have different point values towards promotion. You'd think, then, that someone who earned, say, the Medal of Honor, something that can get you a parade wherever you go, makes you a shoe in for promotion. However, it's only worth a few points, and your medals can earn you a maximum of 15 total. Meanwhile, you could earn up to 200 points for your promotion test when I was in, just to give you a gauge on how relatively unimportant they are for the sake of promotion. I don't know how it is now, but I'm sure it's pretty similar, having only been a few years at this point.
That being said, a single medal can mean the difference between promoting in rank and not. The closest I got to promoting to an NCO before I was medically retired was 3.1 points. However, that would've required me to have gotten something close to the Medal of Honor in value, as it's worth a whopping 5 points. At 3.1 points shy, I was number 111 of non-selectees for my job that year, so the competition was rather fierce. I won't get into all the details of *why* I should've been promoted that year but didn't, mostly due to an accidental oversight from my supervisor, but it was still pretty impressive for me to have gotten so close in my first year eligible to promote.
"Living proof that necks are superfluous" damn Lindy
Also, while reliability was a small factor, cost was the main reason for the Webley's tenure. Pistols have hardly made a impact in any war, so spending a bunch of money for a slightly better pistol is usually foolish
… the thing is that there wasn’t a better gun …
Arguably pistols are great for morale and morale has an outsized effect on combat effectiveness so good pistols are important
@@usesrnaiyme By WW2 pretty much any automatic pistol was better than a Webley
How about two medieval archers on a t-shirt. One shouting "Fire" and the other guy saying "What?" and looking confused
I like that one!
Or 'those fire arrows don't work, though...'😉
Other guy using fire extinguisher to douse the fire saying it's wrong.
I'd buy it.
"Where?!"
Just wait until Lindus of the Beige has his gothic plate.
everyone is waiting for this armor
and his magic sword wich will glow beige when frenchmen are approaching!
Once that happens I'll start a petition to get him knighted, then we can officially refer to him as Sir Lindus of the Beige.
12:45 - 13:09 imagine being a member of staff in a schizophrenic ward, turning a corner, and seeing this
17:34 - 17:42 would be equally disturbing
I haven't laughed this hard in a while 😭
I wish we were allowed internet on the schizo ward, but alas, it causes mad schizo shit so I didn't know what was happening in the world for a while
“Sarah, code blue! He’s at it again...”
“Lindybeige themed t-shirts, and mugs, and badges and fire extinguishers” I found that way funnier than I probably should have
Pistol is used in the US just like handgun; it can mean either a revolver or a semi-automatic. For those who use pistol to mean only one, it is the semi-auto pistol, not a revolver.
Also, while it is understood that you're in a safe situation and have good gun hygiene, you are, in fact, on display for all sorts of impressionable people. I believe that demonstrating that it was not an actual firearm served the same purpose, but good trigger discipline on camera mainly serves the purpose of influencing others to practice good trigger discipline when they are handling guns in other situations, where it may actually be relevant and important to do so.
merp ius very true. It’s always the Europeans who find trigger discipline annoying, maybe they should take advice from the people who own and operate firearms on a regular basis
merp ius Well said sir!
It’s hard to express how enjoyable your videos are. You’re like nothing else I watch on RUclips, and you have to be the best content creator I watch.
Lindy is sort of like "that one teacher substitute that was really funny but also made you learn a ton" only that he's permanent. :)
The creaky leather thing is because you need to oil the leather, this will make it softer, more bendable, last longer and, most of all, not creak
Yes use saddle soap.
I was half expecting Lindy to do the outro in place of the lego man
That would have been good but only if he did it in the stiff arm stopmotion way that the lego man does
You’re forgetting about the panic button that they have that all officers use when they have no idea what they are doing.... NCO’s to the rescue
oh shit it's mat please do more vids reviewing planes and more cringe war thunder oh and make more listen to more 90's music
Hey love your army toys videos.
Traitor! jk love you bro
So true! Damn Lieutenants. (Former Sgt.) 😉
Some exceptions, especially if they made it to E5 before they went to OCS. Unless we are actually at war and need more bullet traps, I do not think they should send anyone to OCS without at least two years of enlisted service After graduation from AIT.
"If you need a filling, just call." - Lindybeige 2018
Oooh matron!
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I'm an American and former soldier and I love learning about other nations' military history and traditions so I found this to be a fun vid to watch. Now about that trigger discipline.....
Yea he does it a lot and it irks me every time
@@olliefowler7287 Yea I know it still bothers me. I have been taught my whole life to keep my finger off the trigger unless I am going to fire, even with bb guns growing up. I am not saying he is wrong I am just saying it bothers me.
Same page
AYAYA
it wasn’t invented until the 70s so he’s being historically accurate
@@olliefowler7287 its not really about whether the gun is real or loaded, its about being in the habit of keeping your finger off the trigger so that when you are actually holding a real firearm you dont put your finger on the trigger without even thinking about it. its just a good habit to have
"It's a man's life in the British Dental Association"
Lindy of the BDA
Father and an uncle were in Canadian Army Dental Corps(RCADC); by end of WW2 they'd seen -- especially through Italy -- more blood than a PBI.
Rotate that color scheme 90 degrees clockwise and you will become, as the kids say, "based".
It's the most fearsome 180 year old battle dentist, who did nothing distinguishing.
I recently found myself practicing trigger discipline with a pistol-gripped garden hose. I guess the training worked.
Richard DeLotto once you gets it you never forgets it
LOL .I have caught myself doing the same !
Don't even shoot guns but I've seen so many people crying about it online that whenever I grab anything with a pistol grip I always do it now lmao, was at a shooting arcade game a couple months ago and kept my finger away from the trigger of the shotgun, as well as constantly keeping the barrel away from all people lol,
Americans get excited about trigger discipline because we regularly use real firearms and the consequences for unsafe conduct can be quite tragic. Lindy's handling makes me nervous, however this is because I have been handling weapons, civilian and military since I was five years old.
Yep. He may have been alone in that room, but if that had been a real firearm, and he accidentally discharged it, the bullet could have gone through a wall or ceiling and of to who knows where? Doesn’t matter if it’s “only” an air pistol; a gun is always loaded, even when it’s not.
Ah, I used the be an adventurer like you, until I took a turban ruffian gun crewman to the knee.
Ya' beat me to it.
*to the shoulder
Gstrangeman96
Actually to the knee and shoulder
I object to your wording on account that: "Turban ruffian gunman" rhymes and sounds much funnier.
Head and shoulders
The medals are more evidence lindy beige is an ancient vampire
A vampire would need to be their own dentist...
"I'm not pointing a gun at you!"
*Awkwardly moves phone screen in a different direction away from face in American*
I moved my head to the side very quickly when he did that.
Yes
Safety knows no bounds, even from across the pond xD
Did you not know that this is RUclips?
@@davidgormunt9031 I couldn’t tell the graphics are so realistic 🥸
Why not just sell pith helmets for merch?
Possibly not good for publicity, as he was saying with its colonial image
@@harrywade7664.Even more of a reason to sell them. Give em something better to be related to.
@@harrywade7664 Or perhaps because the user might be confused with a US Postal Service worker delivering the mail during warm/hot weather. USPS has been using pith helmets for decades.
are you taking the pith ?
@@steveh1792 Unlikely to be mistaken for a USPS worker in the UK
Can confirm: I'm American (and former military) and was definitely frothing at the lack of trigger discipline. But, hey, points for recognizing it and explaining why it's acceptable in the context!
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He is using trigger discipline, just not modern trigger discipline.
So you were, in fact, triggered? 😃
ha! good one!
magic1wizard thx
the feeling you get when you answer one of lindybeige's questions correctly is fantastic. the feeling you get when you get the answer wrong due to popular historical rumour or sheer ignorance on the topic is heart breaking
I was a policeman for 25 years in Calif, and I found the creaking of the leather rather comforting. It shows that the material is alive. But the creaking decreases with wear. We called our belts Sam Brownes too, but the female officer wore a 'Sally Browne" belt, that is curved while the male belt is straight. We didn't wear the baldric, which we called a 'suicide strap' because if a bad guy got a hold of it in a fight he basically owned you.
Baldrics are a recipe for disaster.
@@The_ZeroLine Especially their cunning plans
As an American combat veteran, I immediately did frothy frothy about the trigger discipline, but then had to laugh about being called out before commenting. 10 points, sir. I should say, though, that the issue with finger on the trigger isn’t for my imagined safety, it’s more for the sake of your ceiling (I know it’s a replica, don’t @ me). The idea is that you never put your finger on the trigger until you’ve already aimed at what you want to shoot. I am not *offended* though. Very good stuff, and good for you getting merch; I’ll probably pick some up.
Right there with you... *wipes froth from mouth*. The concept was always sold to me on the "muscle memory" aspect... even if it's not a real gun, you treat it like one, so that when you do have a firearm in your hands you naturally have the proper trigger discipline.
@@renardgrise Exactly my thought. Though, he is British and sadly they don't have the freedom to worry bout those things. Still love em, but screw their silly law.
Zack Tyler me and my platoon mates have realized that even when you don't have anything in your hand but articulate as if you did, you still have excellent trigger discipline 😂 this even several years after military service. Muscle memory indeed...
"Though, he is British and sadly they don't have the freedom to worry bout those things."
Yep, instead we have the freedom from having to worry about them ;)
When I was in my teens I got so ridiculed for trigger discipline while playing airsoft that when the time came for actual firearms it was just a reflex. I mean it takes a conscious effort to put curl my trigger finger even if there's no physical gun in my hand.
I almost want to see someone trying to accuse you of stolen valor. They'd have to make the assumption that you have no clue what the ribbons were actually for. Battle dentist is completely overpowered as a unit type.
I honestly don’t see it as possible for anyone with military experience to be under the belief, even at a moments glance that he was stealing valour. Even under the assumption they didn’t know or couldn’t see the dentists badge and the ridiculous array of medals to go with it, they would at least notice that he was dressed like he was in the African expeditionary force from Victorian times and not in a modern military uniform or one that you could convincingly claim you were alive to have worn.
You are both assuming that bullshitters research their subject before telling the lie. Trump proves that to be a fallacy.
For him to be accused of stolen valor, wouldn't the British still have to use pith helmets?
+uncreativename my point exactly
I wouldn't put it past a soldier that's had a few pints of beer to be so focused on the fact that a person is not armed forces that they fail to realize how silly the attire really was. It may seem idiot proof, but in my experiences the world always creates a bigger idiot.
Really interesting, as always! However, a few inaccuracies: I was in the Royal Greenjackets, (1LT 1981 - 1983,) and we wore our service pistols (Browning H-Power, 9mm) on the right side of the body, as on ceremonial uniforms we had our swords too. WO's and senior NCOs, however, wore them on the left side, handle facing out, same as your uniform. On the battle dress, those issued sidearms would wear depending on if they were left- or right-handed, and with the lanyard attached behind the holster, on the belt.
I'm not the type to actually comment about trigger discipline, but since you brought it up: the idea isn't to have good discipline only when you're around others with a live and loaded weapon. The point is to practice good trigger discipline with anything firearm related so as to develop good habits.
Think of it as practice like you play.
Carry on.
With the cork variants of pith helmets, one can soak them in water, which the cork stores. Then, one has a rudimentary air-conditioner.
They were also much lighter than most other helmets, serving another advantage in the hot conditions.
I wonder how much more weight that added though.
You dirty cork soaker
If cork soaked up water it wouldn't be used for stoppers
@@2adamast actually that's why it's a good stopper.
Wet cork swells to fill the neck of the bottle. That's why bubbly wine, like champagne, needs to be stored upside down, to keep the cork inflated.
Each his own view, I see it as a spongy closed cell structure.
_A mature cork cell is non-living and has cell walls that are composed of a waxy substance that is highly impermeable to gases and water_
In the Royal Engineers we were always told that "UBIQUE" had two meanings; (A) For the Royal Engineers it meant "Everywhere" because we served everywhere. (B)For the Royal Artillery it meant "All over the bloody place" just like their shots. :-p
Ahchi Cappleman
My grandfather was a Forwards Observation Officer during WW2 and he’d agree with you. He explained that occasional stay shells just happen. Most would be on target, a few would be outside, and the odd one or two would be all over the place. He explained that it’s just what happens occasionally due to errors in charge manufacturing etc.....
I had a chap from the HAC explain the ranging process for artillery once. He didn't mention stray shots although I expect they're a simple fact of life.
@lindybeige The government issued books of officers’ dress regulations at various times. They specified in detail the regulation patterns of uniforms at the time of issue. I found them extremely useful in researching officers’ uniforms and equipment from the 19th and early 20th centuries. Love your videos!
13:04 EVERYONE GET DOWN, HES GONE STARK RAVING MAD !!!
I wonder what sort of an artifact he would have made.
Oh dear, I'm outranked by a dentist. Can we at least agree that you stick to the khaki and I to the red kit..... sir?
Well... dentists can be killers too... Ben L. Salomon... US Army Dentist, awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions during the Battle of Saipan in 1944. He supposedly killed up to 98 Japanese before they got him.
Wait, you're talking about Lindy? He's a dentist?!
Of course the Britisher is subscribed to Lindy. Why wouldn't he be?
+Zack Tyler
> Well... dentists can be killers too
Of course they are!
After all, some of them have a tendency to hit you right where it hurts the most: a sore tooth.
I love your videos :)
A British Officer doesn't "hide in the bush", he walks confidently up to Fritz and graciously accepts his surrender.
he calmly runs away crying when a brown man with a spear charges him.
@@Pugiron
still better that forgetting the blue and red in your flag
actually he hides on his island behind his navy
Only if the dastardly swine has a sharp wedge of cantaloupe.
MarcAFK nice blackadder refrence
"I don't have regulation length arms", priceless.
Hey Lindy, love the channel. I found it a couple days ago and absolutely can't stop watching. Just wanna throw in my 2 cents. I'm an American and we call both revolvers and (semi)autos pistols. Loved the video keep it up! :)
We Americans make a distinction between revolvers and semi-auto pistols usually; both can be called pistols, we just tend to be more specific for revolvers because calling a semi-auto pistol an "automatic" gets confusing since you can actually own automatic weapons here (in most states & with a tax stamp). When you say "automatic pistol" most Americans would be inclined to think "Oh, a Stetchkin or something."
The laws here make it even more confusing since anything firing pistol cartridges is technically a pistol under law, unless it has a stock attached to it. In which case it becomes a short barreled rifle... that doesn't fire rifle rounds.
Yep, but those fall under curio and relic since they're more than 50 years old (not the stetchkin). If it were made today, bam, it's magically an SBR and super deadly! Or something.
You say that, but I have been corrected by Americans for calling a revolver a 'pistol' numerous times. Despite it being good enough for ol' Sam Colt himself and short for 'revolver pistol'. But I'm preaching to the choir here :)
Well, if they live up north they're not really Americans as I know 'em :^)
It's a generational thing, video games are largely to blame I'd say. "Pistol" in a video game means an M1911 type and if the game even has a revolver it's typically just called "Revolver". For someone who doesn't know anything about guns this is all they have to work with when speaking to others about them.
Flamezombie And not to mention it’s very difficult to accurately generalise when talking about American terms, as there is such a myriad of dialects around the U.S.
Most of which most Americans don’t even know about.
I remember a discussion about trigger discipline when someone posted a photograph of a bunch of American ww2 soldiers on some forum. All the keyboard warriors came in criticising the soldiers for their lack of trigger discipline untill an actual firerarms instructor came on the board and pointed out that trigger discipline is a relatively modern invention. It wasn't until the 70s (If I recall correctly) that armies started teaching "trigger discipline". So you're simply being historically accurate!
I was taught it when i joined the army in 1 962
You probably had a good CO because the concept has been around for ages but in the military it didn't become common/law until the 70s at the earliest. And the whole keeping your finger straight and above the trigger guard is a 90s or 00 invention.
Trigger discipline is important for lowering anxiety of the civilian population while in friendly areas. Surely in a potential combat zone even with mostly friendly people around you wouldn't be messing with trigger disipline if theres a possibility of insurgents popping up.
"Trigger discipline is important for lowering anxiety of the civilian population while in friendly areas."
That's arguable, and also trigger discipline is not related to the civilian population at all it is simply firearms safety. You don't want to go into a combat zone and then get shot in the back because private Snafu can't keep his finger off the trigger.
@@terrybarrett2368 likewise
Americans definitely use pistol to me all pistols and revolvers to mean revolvers. IDK where you thought we called revolver pistol.
I have seen and heard many Americans call a revolver a pistol and a pistol an automatic
Yet automatic means
Constant fire with the pull of a trigger
Or as is a law in texas
Firing more than 1 round with a single pull (and hold) of said weapons trigger
I learnt this from demolition ranch
@@Domintor-op7lz I'm American and I've never heard anyone call a semi-auto pistol an "automatic." I'd assume they were talking about a full auto weapon unless I had additional context.
@@KelnelK that's odd cause I've heard Americans calk the
.45 acp colt browning
The browning automatic
To me (american), "pistol" and "handgun" are almost interchangeable. Revolvers are pistols, semi-automatics (magazine fed) are pistols
@@Domintor-op7lz so that is because it was originally termed the colt automatic and that’s where 45 acp comes from, automatic colt pistol.
One of my Great Uncles was with the Canadian Army Dental Corp. in the Boar War and died in South Africa. I remember going to Ottawa to the Peace Tower and view the Book of Remembrance with my Mother and Grandmother to see her Brothers Name. So wear your Dental Corp. Insignia proudly. Also becarefull wearing the signal corp. one as it was also used by the C.W.A.C.
*Lindybeige's Extinguishers*
_Note: It extinguishes flames, not frenchmen_
What?
For extinguishing flaming arrows
@@Noromdiputs A Stoke Mandeville joke, its an old video of his own play
>If people wanted to fast forward.
Who are these heretics who would want such a thing?
I say we ask the pope for a holy crusade!
Burn the heretics!
Hmmmn - those energetic americans who are so loud about trigger discipline?
Thomas Raahauge you are a pathetic little man. Did the big, bad Americans frighten you?
Faul language, you barbarian
First year dental student here - we recently got a talk from a dental nurse who was a captain in the RADC who discussed various things - but she showed the insignias for the different medical/veterinary branches of the british armed forces. I'm genuinely considering signing up just for the dragon.
They also have a fantastic student sponsorship/bursary deal, but i would have to agree to join the army for 5 years - and even though the pay is outrageously good and it would be a fantastic experience. I think I would be too afraid of getting shot, and it involves a lot of moving around. Something to consider though
Maybe you could make a video on these medical branches of the army through history? Even if not the med/vet branches, I think a lot of people would find it interesting!
That diagonal strap looks as though it has a cunning plan.
When I served with the RCMP back, way back, in the day we were issued the service revolver. Our ammunition pouch held our reload in what we called speed loaders. I'm not at all sure how historical they were. The pistol itself was a S&W 38 cal revolver with a special made 4 1/2 inch barrel and that revolver had been issued since the very early days. Not the original revolver but Bagan being issued soon after the formation of the force.
My dad called it a Sam Browne belt...served in 50 60 70....lol Lindy said it as I typed this
"If you ever need a filling and you're under heavy fire I'm your man."
pistol is a dual purpose term here in the states, but most are a bit stuck to clear cut pistols and revolvers. pistols in the military, on front line people, its used to escape to a rifle. some are issued pistols that are their sole weapon available when it comes to truck drivers, cooks, and other rear action groups. there were a large number of smith and wesson model 10 revolvers in .38/200. that round was not very effective when compared to a .38 in 158 or 148 grain bullets. i have one that made it back, and i had to learn to load my own ammo for that revolver. im glad that people are saying something about trigger discipline even on the videos, since many accidents happen when thats not observed. its probably as much to remind themselves as it is to remind others. the P-35 pistol was used by all sides in the european theater in ww2. im not sure of russia, but a few americans preferred them to the 1911, since ammo supplies could be looted from the enemy. canada was licensed to produced them, lots of British Soldiers liked it also. Germany took over production after taking over the FN plant, and liked the pistol as well. i have a P35 of Canadian origin, one German production, and 3 that came along in the 1960's, those two are from Israel. I love the feel of the Hi Power, but then i do love military surplus weapons.
"I'm here on my own, so I can't scare anyone." To me that just sums Lindy up XD
I want that fire extinguisher, It would come in very handy.
To an American (me) a pistol is any handgun.
North-eastern American here, and I agree. The first example that comes to mind is "machine pistol" which would never be taken to mean an automated revolver. In my mine, pistol and handgun are synonymous.
As another American and US Army vet I have to agree.
this
Sean C: "Pistol" is derived from czech "pistal" which means "tube" or "pillar", referring to the barrel of the firearm. Since the relative length of a small firearm compared to the width somewhat resembles that of stone pillar, the term now applies to hand guns. Most languages have adopted the term, though with some variations.
Yup. A pistol is a handgun. Although a "handgun" is most often connoted with being a semi-automatic. To differentiate, we often call pistols that have cylindrical chambers "revolvers", and those that are clip loaded, "handguns."
Pistol also sounds more "old-timey", like the wild west, so we associate "pistol" with "revolver", more than "handgun." But basically, if someone says, "He had a pistol.", it's vague. If someone says, "He had a handgun.", we assume it's a semi. If he says, "He had a revolver.", we know exactly what he's talking about.
4:45 His arms wave in the air.
Lindybeige is if all geek in the worlds become one person
General: 2nd Battalion is trapped on Hill 563, and they have a lot of cavities. Will no one step up to save them?!
Lindybeige: I WILL *draws revolver and charges the enemy*
You are the very model of a modern major general! (sorry, I couldn't resist XD)
He can tell at sight between a Mauser rifle and a javelin
Do not throw away your shot.
The venerated Englishman veteran who's men are all lining up to buy his merch
@@welshdragon99 but not a mg 34 from an mg 42 :D
@@Phexyn Do you mean the Spandau?
One particular reason for having a lanyard on your pistol is that officers were usually on horseback so they could move quickly up and down the line and see a bit further and people on foot and you can lose your grip on a pistol or a sword and if you have a sword you would have a sword not that you would slip around your wrist and snug it up so that you don’t lose it especially when you need to give someone the chop.
Hey buddy, super late comment here. Not sure if you have already been told, but the lanyard is worn with the noose pinned under the right shoulder epaulette tabs. So the long bit should hang under your right armpit. Then it simply sits across there to the revolver stock. That's why it was regulation length. Unless you have chimp arms it will always be a good length. Besides you can adjust the reach because it's not around your neck, but around your right shoulder, ergo, a least 40cm closer to your hand, making a full stretch easy-peasey. We still wear them in the army here in Australia for ceremonial stuff. But the end is tucked under the breast pocket, underneath the gongs.
Change the spring out. It's not hard to do.
Also, I was under the impression there were thousands of decommissioned Webleys floating around Europe. Heck, I've even seen some here in North America. Drilled, pinned, and welded of course, but fantastic in the hand, nonetheless.
The creeky leather can be and was solved with neatfoot oil and waxes. Dual purpose to protect and seal the leather and to make presentable on parade. Wearing leathers on parade was a fantastic experience normally for ceremony or whilst conducting guard/party commander duties.
In the UK the gun laws are different.
LEather will get softer and less creeky with use and maintenance.
Last I checked, deactivated firearms are still legal and a plenty in the UK.
However, after watching this video I did a quick check and Mark VIs deactived revolvers as sold by UK dealers are £600 to £1000+. Whereas Lindy's air CO2 pistol is £200, assuming it's the Webley & Scott version.
It wasn't too long ago when you could find .455 Webley's with decent barrels and cones for not much money in the US and Canada. I know plenty of collectors in the EU who have them as well. The only ones you see these days are old police contract guns which are usually in .38S&W or odd ball calibres, as most of the commercial Webleys were.
To Americans that is a revolver, a pistol is any handgun. Just the same as in England.
Unapologetic Elitist You can’t generalise about American dialects like that.
Personally I’d agree with you, pistol mean any hand gun, either automatic or a revolver. But I do know many people from down south who do use the terms like how Lindy described, Especially older people and WWII veterans.
Perhaps some American dialect or other uses it that way, but it's far from the norm.
Yeah, I was thinking, maybe Americans in or from the deep south but not here in Colorado. Any handgun is a pistol, but we do say semi-auto for things that Brits call autos.
Revolvers are revolvers, pistols are semi-autos, handguns are both. Isn’t it like that everywhere?
Ive always heard pistols specifically used to refer to automatics. Revolvers are simply revolvers.
At 06:54 in this video: I had to GO BACK to that image to see that he actually does NOT have a left arm.
_"That's going to leave a mark....'_ -- SPACEBALLS [1987]
I hesitate to carp in any way over what is yet another excellent video, and I accept that the outfit is just a costume, and not intended to hold the wearer out as a member of HM Forces. However, to be correct, unit badges are worn only up to, and including, the rank of Lt.Col, after which the wearer shows red collar tabs instead. The only exceptions to this are, as far as I am aware, where the wearer is Field Officer in Brigade Waiting (a Foot Guards officer commanding the Queen's Birthday Parade) or, more usually, either Colonel of the Regiment (usually a senior general) or the Colonel-in-Chief (usually a member of the Royal Family)
Keep up the good work, please!
Enjoyed this one, I have worn a "Sam Browne" belt for over 20 years as a police officer. It has been the best gun belt for over 100 years. Over time some changes have occurred, Lost the baldrick and moved the belt lower on the torso. The original would be more comfortable, but wouldn't suit modern police work. The creaky sound of the leather never disappears, it just by becomes part of the background noise of life. The with of the belt helps distribute weight of equipment, and we carry a lot of it. Plus we used to carry the night stick on the weak side just like old Sam's sword
*cracks open webley*
"highest quality anti zulu pew pew pellets."
As always, an interesting and high quality video from Lindy - I've been a subscriber for a while now, but I am again reminded why I subscribed in the first place! Thank you for a wholesome video, Lindy!
Brilliant brilliant!! Yes! Another video triumph! That was great. Quickly though, three things I’d like to mention. First, for the “creaky” leather, I suggest a good leather conditioner. Here in the US I use a brand called Lexol, available at any quality Cobbler shop. Second, I’ve never seen the pistol lanyard around the neck. I know you research this stuff carefully, but my impression was that they were worn looped around the shoulder under the buttoned down epilate to stay up. This arrangement I also understood was the origin of the “Full Dress” uniform’s, fancy, sometimes, braided cord decoration in the same location. The only difference being it wasn’t really attach to a side arm anymore. And finally, Loyd, my friend, surely no one would object if you customised your pistol lanyard to be a comfortable length to use your pistol. I mean if you can punch a few more holes in your baldric to fit you better, then surely you could adjust the lanyard. Or maybe if it were worn on your shoulder it’s length would be just fine. Thank you for reading this. Until next time, cheers!
Lindybeige, a lanyard can also work as a pistol brace. If you slip your arm either around the lanyard in a spiral motion or through the loop in it, you can increase the points of contact if it is sized correctly to you. It would be as if you were using your other hand to hold the revolver as well. It really depends on how the lanyard is sized, but it should be taught when your arm is fully extended into position.
Look at how the M1 leather Rile sling works for an idea of what I am talking about.
This would be especially useful in an age of one handed shooting. The older weaver stance and the newer isosceles stance are very modern in comparison to what was once done. All you have to do is Google 1900 handgun shooting to find many images of a variety of soldiers and officers using different one handed techniques.
American former military here. We'd call those pistols as well, with the sub-classification of revolver. The other pistol you were holding in the picture would be referred to as an automatic or semi-automatic pistol if we had to specify.
American former military & current gun salesman. The American Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (BATFE; quite a fun purview, that) categorizes all guns sold into precisely four categories: pistols, revolvers, long guns and muzzleloaders. There's actually various other minor sub-categories, but this is the world as the BATFE chooses to see it.
This makes sense given that the primary point-of-bitching (that's a precise term, mind you) in the US government vis-a-vis firearms has always been HANDGUNS, which refers to both automatics and revolvers. "Tool of muggers and gang thugs, hide it in your sock before you shoot the President", etc. etc. They've not spent a lot of worry over rifles and/or shotguns, anyway. The recent emergence of semi-automatic rifles (and pistol-sized rifles) has really thrown the fools at the BATFE for a loop, as they're not sure what the hell to call them. They even presently have a Mossberg shotgun (the Shockwave) which is allowed to be much shorter than usual, by virtue of the fact it's administratively titled under the exceedingly generic term "weapon" (no kidding), rather than a "long gun", so it gets a special set of grandfathered nebulous criteria. Heaven help us.
@@orangejoe204 Good to know. Now to go buy me a shockwave. Thanks!
@@orangejoe204 - BATFE should be a 24-7 Drive-In Super-Mart, not a Government Bureaucracy!
VegetaLF7
Do they make true automatic handguns?
I’m not extremely well versed in firearm terminology but I’m somewhat.
I know for rifles automatic is: pull trigger, bullets keep firing.
Semi auto: 1 bullet per trigger pull
Bolt action fires 1 bullet per trigger pull and you have to chamber each round.
@@Jessie_Helms they do, but almost no one can buy them and they are somewhat rubbish.
who would win?
3.175mm
or
one eighthy boi
Why is there no comment about the Battle Dentist?
Guess no one watched it till then (excluding me)
now i want a picture in that uniform but insted i want it to be a duck who says british officers dont duck
I want a row of various geese, owls, loons, swans, pheasants etc. in officer gear, all saying that. =)
Oooh, this one is awesome!!!
I am incredibly busy, but nobody ignores a beige alert. Drop what you are doing, things are urgent
What a time it was, with all the world against us
Lego is getting a bit old,you think theyd be happy for the free exposure.
A BEIGE ALERT?!
Tell my wife "Hello"!
*BuwEEEP BuwEEEEEP* Alarm! Alarm! Aliens are invading. Drop whatever you are doing and go to your undesignated battlepost.
*BaDaBuwEEEP BaDaBuwEEEEP* Lloyd has published a new video! Drop whatever you are doing, return to your computer and make space for the aliens beside you! Its important to share screens.
This is not a drill! This is not a drill! Intercontinental ballistic missiles armed with nuclear warheads are incoming! This is not a drill! I repeat: this is not a drill! All hands to battle stations! Brace for impact! God Save the Queen!
[lindybeige theme roles over the screen] Be with you in a moment, Sir! I just have to watch this first.
When I was in the Air Force we had to participate in a parade. The British Air Force was in charge of our two sections (British Air Force and US Air Force units) in the march. Out came a British Sergeant Major in charge. This guy was right out of the movies. Handlebar mustache, swizzle stick, uniform, loud deep voice commands, the whole 9 yards. He gave the marching commands; not a single one of us Americans understood a single word he said (no exaggeration). As the Brits were in front of us, we decided to execute the same maneuvers that they did since we couldn't translate his commands.
Was it the accent, the speed of the commands being given or both that cause the problem?
This channel is underrated
'the plan is to start selling what they call *MERCH* '
you thoroughly have my attention
None regulation arm length! That’s disgraceful.
New Lindybeige motto to be emblazoned across all fire extinguishers @34:25 :
"Wherever there's trouble... if you need a filling, just call!"
Or maybe shorten it to: "If you need a filling, just call!"
Yep. That's better.
I absolutely loathe listening to sponsors sales pitches. But despite yours being drastically the longest I've ever seen, I quite enjoyed it and was entertained. Far beyond any other. I commend you good sir.
Why isn’t loyd playing a British officer in a tv series yet
Feck off and be triggered somewhere else, Rob.
Baldrick? Sounds familiar.
A very cunning belt.
A belt so cunning you could send it to Cunningham University and have it pass with honours.
Is that your belt, Baldrick, or did you just fail at hanging yourself again?
Its a Sam Brown, sire.
No need to flatter yourself, I know what you are. A very Brown Sam indeed.
"I dont have regulation lenght *bodypart*"
Perfect. I am going to need to remember this
Froths in American about trigger discipline