Indy Cars at Pocono: A "Tricky" History
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- For years, the Pocono IndyCar race was behind only the Indy 500 in terms of significance. Once again, it's off the schedule. How does an event evolve in importance? This is a look at the long and wild history of Indy Cars at Pocono.
For decades, controversy surrounded the Pocono 500. Weird stories, bad decisions, and tough weather have marred the race. Racing in a hurricane... fans crossing the track... rough track conditions. But can the problems today be traced to something that happened 40 years ago? It's an event rich in history for both good and bad reasons.
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The point with few practice hours is very relevant. The track is called "Tricky Triangle" for a reason. 2 hours for practice is a joke, and I believe it contributed to bad crashes during last two years a lot.
and a lack of respect for the Tunnel Turn.
My mother lived through Agnes, and she told me that Pocono Raceway was used as a staging area for rescue and recovery efforts post storm (similar to how Daytona is used whenever a hurricane hits in Florida) so for USAC to think that they were gonna be able to run on the originally scheduled date is honestly the dumbest idea in their history, and this is a history that includes running an actual indycar race at Daytona and thought running indycars at Talladega was a good idea... No wonder why USAC is irrelevant outside of sprint car racing
What?! Indycars cars at Dega is an awesome idea.
My Mother jokes was overused so stop
Pennsylvania got it worse from Agnes than any other state, but it was pretty bad here in New York too. I was in fifth grade, and have never seen it rain so hard since. Everything was flooded here, but not as bad as Pennsylvania, and just being kids, we treated it like a holiday, since we got a couple of days off from school. We'd go down to the flooded areas and jump in and swim around and have a good time, not thinking about the people whose houses were flooded. But that's the way you are when you're a kid. Today, just imagine kids swimming around in all that dirty water and nobody thinking about stopping it. Hurricane Sandy was worse a few years ago, because it actually destroyed houses and wrecked neighborhoods, but Agnes it was just flooded. Nobody got killed and nobody lost their house.
Usac is the premier sanctioning body for midgets, sprints, and silver crown cars...So, pretty much every form of open wheel racing that isn't Indy cars. Lesser known fact: They are also the USA's largest sanctioning body for stage rally.
i went every year from 2015-2019 and the crowd was just getting bigger and bigger every year. honestly seemed like there were more people there for that than the july nascar race this year. really hope its back sometime soon
No event equity anymore, they don't give them the opportunity to grow.
IndyCar races seem to be better at tracks that are meh for NASCAR.
I can only hope Indycar adds Pocono back to the schedule soon. I know some people will complain about how unsafe it is, but if the cars have a halo, then another Justin Wilson accident shouldn't happen and Wickens accident was just a freak accident. Though what probably doesn't help is most indycar drivers (except for the vets) lack the experience in oval racing to maneuver through traffic at 225 or 230 mph without crashing.
They need to start the race with the cars spaced further apart and find a way to reduce the drafting effect. Also the walls have to be built higher to keep cars out of the fences.
@@Nitron2097 if the drafting effect is any further reduced then where it was in 2018, it would become outright impossible to overtake at Pocono. If anything, the addition of the wicker bill in 2019 helped massively and showed that for Superspeedways more Drag and Drafting, not less, is the ideal solution.
Wilson's accident could still happen theoretically. The nose cone landed right on top of his head. The halo/aeroscreen would be something like a basketball hoop and that piece was a "swish" shot. IndyCar has tethered the nosecone now but either way Wilson was just the most unlucky guy ever with that.
And I don't think oval inexperience has anything to do with the crashes. These guys have plenty of experience on high speed ovals. Wickens was a rookie and made a rookie mistake... A mistake he made earlier in the year at Texas too. He got away with that one unscathed tho.
No excuse for Sato this year. Dude has years of big oval experience. Has won an Indy 500. Was 3rd at Indy this year. Hell, he even won on an oval a week later at Gateway. But Sato does Sato things, be it an oval or road course. He has his "no attack, no chance" motto which sometimes leads to spectacular passes but often just leads to destroyed race cars.
Wickens' accident wasn't a freak accident. That was Wickens being a moron. Michael Andretti was entirely right in what he said after the accident. Yes, it was tragic his career was ended right then and there and I wish him well in his recovery, but it was indeed his fault.
@@mistertheking yup. People don't want to hear it but Wickens made a bad mistake and it cost him. He made the same terrible move on Ed Carpenter at Texas earlier in the year and crashed as well.
"...and maybe I'll start my own sanctioning organization."
..........EPIC FORESHADOWING!
With blackjack! And hookers!
RIP Justin Wilson
Are we gonna say anything about the Schaefer "The One Beer to have when you're having more than one" slogan? Thought that was hilarious.
Hope Pocono can come back one day.
Schaefer Beer needed that slogan. Multiples were the only way to enjoy it because after one you can’t taste anything. A garbage beer and the only good thing about the company was a picturesque brewery along I-78 in Fogelsville
I agree Nascar will had no longer in Pocono Race track because is Dangerous and Nascar add Lime Rock Park and Rockingham in Summer 2021
You would NEVER see an ad like that today? Now it's whiny" Drink responsibly........"
@@williamford9564 I work for a beer distributor. Now it’s “Celebrate Responsibly” 😬
Schaefer were sponsors of Mets baseball on TV in the 70's, switching over from Rheingold. They changed their slogan from the "One beer to have" to "I wanna beer like no other beer-I'm Schaefer people" around that time, and I remember a commercial where they had Ralph Kiner singing the jingle. (Not by himself, though.) I don't know why I remember a commercial from over 40 years ago, but who could forget Ralph Kiner singing? I worked as a messenger for a law firm in New York at that time, and they were legal representatives of the F&M Schaefer Brewing Company, so I made many a trip to their corporate headquarters at 3 Park Avenue, which was on Park & 33rd Street. The law office was in the Pan Am Building, at Park & 42nd, and they used to give me tokens to take the subway to the Schaefer offices, but I'd pocket the tokens and walk the 9 blocks, which was always nice if you were on a tight budget, which I was as a 17 year old minimum wage worker.
9:23 Roger Penske: I'm gonna start my own sanctioning body, with Blackjack and hookers. Actually forget the sanctioning body.
The fact that 75,000 attendees was disappointing back in the day, but now most racetrack owners would *kill* for those sorts of numbers, really shows the state of North American motorsports.
But yet dirt racing is doing just fine!!!! (No not 70k fine).....Why?? They didn't sell out too big money....
@@tysonfrank2105 Because Dirt Racing runs on smaller profit margins to begin with and are significantly more local in focused, while NASCAR and Indycar need a national focus to stay strong.
"Rain would be a recurring problem for the mountain top track." Understatement of the century.
The Tricky Triangle has a very Tricky Relationship with AOWR
Personally, I love the racing at this place and hope it will be back in the future
But, but Nazareth is a NASCAR track! Oh wait, wrong video. lol
Nazareth doesn't exist any more.
Nazereth was a fantastic for Indy and NASCAR. Not a bad seat in the place and you could see everywhere. Pocono was just to damn big and the low angle grandstands don't give a great view of the track.
@@XA351GT Nazareth was more like a left-turn-only road course than an oval. Loved being there in the late '80's while on the CART circuit.
The Indy cars never played nice at Pocono, plus, most of the racers and teams really did not like the whole area - the usual thoughts on the place was "when the world needs and enema, this is where the tube will be inserted".
What
Love your videos!!!!
The whole situation is a bummer, and it's really just a combination of rules packages and bad wrecks caused by driver error thanks to wild aero quirks that were its undoing.
Pocono is the one track I've been to more than any others, from '96 to 2014, and the folks there treated us like gold. Aside from being in the middle of nowhere, the facility is absolutely incredible, and I truly hope that they can at least stay afloat long enough to have IndyCar come back someday.
Pocono Raceway is on the middle of a genuine wilderness. I haven't been there in a while, but we used to go every year for the NASCAR races. We wouldn't park in the track facilities, but on one of the side roads leading into the track, and it would be about a mile, mile & a half walk just to get to the track, (and another mile or so walking halfway around the track from the back stretch to the grandstand), and you'd see bears moseying around in the woods. But they were cool and didn't even pay attention to you. Parking away from the track was one way to beat the traffic out after the race, if you didn't mind the walk. At least it was scenic.
@@RRaquello "Pocono Raceway - come for the auto racing, stay for the pretty chill bears." haha
There was a time when we'd be redirected to park where the Solar Farm is now, and that was way quicker than parking outside of Turn 3 as we did the first few years... but of course, the Solar Farm went up, and we were relegated to parking next to Turn 3 again, and you know, it wasn't half bad! We were never in our car in the parking lot for more than 45 minutes! That's really not bad, IMO.
Pocono was built for open-wheel cars. I was and still am a Robert Wickens fan, but his push for IndyCar to leave that date was a bad move. Both his and Tukuma Sato's crash recently were from driver error. Look at the fatalities at Indy. Why not shut it down?
Look at fatalities at Spa. Why not shut it down?
Because fuck safety when there's loads of money to be made. That's the message that's ultimately being sent. I refuse to entertain the safety argument until the proposal of banning very dangerous but highly profitable tracks are brought into the discussion.
@@j_obaymaac2886 No one complains about Spa because it's a classic F1 track with a FIA Grade 1 liscene. Naturally, the mad string of extreme accidents in the F1 development ladder recently has shown just how pointless FIA Grade 1 license actually is when it comes to safety.
If F1 and its' feeder series continue to run Spa and Monza, then there is no reason why Indycar shouldn't continue at Pocono.
He did try to pass in turn 2 which is a big no no, and on like lap 10 mind you 🤦♂️
Iron Panther call me cold, but I’m not the least bit concerned about track safety. What’s being complained over are non-issues because they’re driver error. It seems like drivers have no expectation of having to concern themselves with their own safety. Forty and fifty years ago, Jackie Stewart was screaming at F1 brass for their total lack of concern for drivers. Today it’s the total opposite.
i miss indycar at pocono. it was awesome to be able to watch indycar at my home track.
Daytona: World center of Speed
Pocono: I’ll see your world of Speed & subtract a corner & decrease banking, Whilst still being able to haul ass.
As a South Central PA resident, it was easy for me to make the trip to the race. I went the last 4 years. I did my best to bring new fans, and old to the events. It makes me sad that it has ended like this. It was an awesome event and the northeast needs this event. I guess ill be dragging people the extra hour south to go to Richmond..
I feel like that IndyCar NEEDS the three 500 mile races even if they are the only ovals on the schedule. Pocono to me seems very suitable to IndyCar racing, i've never understood WHY exactly they keep having problems, the guys who own the place need to just conform the track to satisfy IndyCar's standards, period. Raise the walls & reinforce the fencing, surely they have the money & then a long with that, the series needs to go back to Michigan as well, IndyCar should have a million dollar 500 mile Triple Crown...
Would be great, but in the past the millions came from Marlboro or Winston in another series. They could probably hold back a Mill from Indy? The gate a Pocono seems weak at best... Not trolling or arguing, just wonder who might pony up. Seems like carvana bought enough Jimmie ads it may well be over a million?
14:39 Fan by track bottom right of screen. I'm thinking this guy was drinking Schaefer beer, he definitely had more than one!
Thanks for sharing - this is an exceptionally well-made video in which you not only discuss Pocono's history in great detail, but also share the story of its troubled relationship with IndyCar through the years. I've been to six NASCAR Cup Series races (it would've been seven races if the 2016 Pennsylvania 400 hadn't been postponed from Sunday to Monday) at Pocono, but the lone IndyCar race I attended there in 2018 was certainly an enjoyable experience. Although I'm honestly more of a NASCAR fan, I would love to see IndyCar back on the schedule at Pocono - if not next year, then in 2022 for sure. I also believe that once fans are allowed at the track in full capacity, NASCAR and IndyCar should team up at the "Tricky Triangle," with IndyCar and the Truck Series on Saturday, followed by the Xfinity and Cup Series on Sunday. I would gladly buy tickets and make the trip west from New Jersey for both days of racing. Anyway, once again, this is an excellent video - thanks for sharing!
Great video. This is my eighth time watching this video. I've been to the IndyCar race at Pocono all seven years. It was fun seeing IndyCar race near me and also getting autographs, pictures with the drivers. Plus sometimes just talking to the mechanics while they not busy. Another thing was is meeting new friends you see year after year. It was a cool experience. I remember the last time IndyCar race at Pocono in 1989. I was only 11 years old. Now I'm 41 years old and I hope Penske get IndyCar back at Pocono. Kind of weird that a race has grown from 2015 to 2019 when they moved the date from July to August. Now not coming back, that sucks. I hope I can see an IndyCar race next year. Richmond is out of the question because it's the same weekend as the Six Hours at Watkins Glen. I'll be at Watkins Glen that weekend. Will see in the future.
You know it's a bad flood when your great grandfather is floating by your window in a pimped up canoe.
Pocono 2015: Justin Wilson dies to injury sustained in a late crash that Formula 1's halo construct would've prevented
Pocono 2018: Robert Wickens suffers serious injury early when sent into the catchfence
Damn, those 70s Indycars look absolutely amazing
The 1960's & 1970's were a magical time & the "Golden Era" of IndyCar racing. With as many different style cars as there were owners and teams there was a lot of "competition" with makes and styles as well as the blistering on track speed. The spec cars of today while presenting closer racing, really loses something from the 40 year or so period from 1950-1990 when so many different ideas were engineered with each model trying different ideas to build the recipe for getting around in the fastest way. Kinda lost the "romance" that open wheel racing once had.
Sorry Mattioli, but those races on road courses and "parking lots" were exciting. Great video!
It’s a miracle no one was injured from shrapnel like debris from the boiler plate protection.
Pocono is arguably as stranger than Talladega. Been saying this for years.
WTF does “as stranger” mean?
rip English
??????? this is like Buckwheat's greatest hits from early SNL.
Very well written, very well produced...
You guys do such a fantastic job with these videos; great historical content; presenting the facts from all sides (without taking sides), and putting it all in such a nice package.
Videos like this are why I prefer RUclips to TV anymore.
The way Indy car talks of and now them leaving, you would have never known that it was a crown jewel at one time
I remember watching cup races growing up that you could always count on rain towards the end or at some point.
Great video!!
jbob3 Pennsylvania in late summer. Can’t avoid it
@@redram5150 Oh yeah but you-I were always wondering..
Whens it going to start lol
Have a great week Kris!
I think Pocono is an event on the Indycsr schedule that got a bad rap in recent years for supposed “safety”.
Wilson’s death in 2015 was not at all the fault of pocono, rather it was misfortunate debris.
And then as for 2018 and 2019? Track safety does play part of a role in this (the infield needs to be expanded once again), however that’s not a good justification when Indy is just as unsafe if not more unsafe.
Treat it similar to Indy in the sense that drivers get as much practice with the track as possible. Not like an entire month of course but at least 12 hours.
Pocono and Indycar's relationship was really weird this time around. They kinda seemed like they were in it and at times it felt like they weren't but i think that comes down to how attendance was going back and forth. I really only think they were super for Indycar this time year when it was announced that they were only getting one Nascar weekend a year and for them that's a huge money loss to have 1 major race a year and that being that. It also doesn't help that the crashes really hampered shit hard this around, while it's the cost of racing 220 mph cars even Indycar fans get burned out on the shocking accidents, a big wreck once per year guarantee isn't really a comfortable thing to think about with these cars and with how far behind it feels Pocono is with safety upgrades you can see why they bailed.
I think this video in a way kinda sheds light on how stingy Pocono is financially and how behind the times the track has kinda always been. the damage that the CART-USAC spat did to them and how the track seems to be way behind on upgrades is a thing fans are only beginning to think about just now. Boiler plate walls by the 90s were kinda ridiculous and not having catch fences around the perimeter of the track till 2011 is pretty shocking, add on to the fact they had two Indycar races in a row where the fence repair looked like someone just grabbed something from Home Depot kinda hits home how this track might be the most low budget major auto racing track in the country right now. Its the price of not being aligned with ISC or SMI and running stuff on your own sadly. (I totally get why though.)
I think when the dust settles they'll have more of a shot of going back to Fontana then Pocono with how badly everyone felt this around.
I'm super happy to see you and Brock doing Indycar content as i feel that side of youtube has been massively untouched in the area of racing analytic review content. Y'all have been killing it on the Nascar side and its cool to see you guys branch out.
Yeah... about Fontana...
@@PYLrulz1984
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Looking at that crash with Greg Sacks & Lake Speed, I wonder if the boilerplate wall didn't save them by giving way. Imagine if it was concrete. I think Sacks did suffer some injuries in that deal, but it could have been worse with a concrete barrier.
@@RRaquello so true, if the wall gives and bends it is absorbing energy and taking it away from the car... if it was concrete I think Sacks would have been very seriously injured or worse...
@@jimmbrink8759
That was a particularly nasty accident, and it looks like Sacks went just about head on into the wall, also being pushed by Lake Speed's car. Similar to Earnhardt's fatal accident, only 15 or so years before without even the advanced safety features which couldn't save Earnhardt. That crash had the look of a very possibly fatal accident if it had been a concrete barrier.
I'm not a NASCAR guy anymore, but I love open wheel racing and old school NASCAR, when everything wasn't engineered down to the molecule. These are great history videos!
I attended the ‘84 and ‘85 Indy car race at Pocono. Some all-time drivers in the field. Great memories.
This was absolutely FASCINATING! You put the work in for this. And I appreciate it!
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19:10 - my feelings exactly.
I am a massive Robert Wickens fan and to see that chash when it happened. So seeing it again brinings backs horrible memories. I thought he fucking died when I saw it.
Pocono: *exsists*
Indycar: Should we race here
This was probably the funniest thing ive ever read you should comment this on every video. Im sure everyone loves it
This is the best racing history content on RUclips my man. Hitting me right in the geek juice xoxo
Your documentaries are always first rate.
Great Piece ….love your IndyCar documentaries.
Did not expect to see my hometown when I watched this
Bad and stupid move. Pocono WAS MADE for INDY cars PERIOD. It is the perfect track. Completely wide open. What stupid class holes messed this up? I'm with you MARIO!
And now we have like only 2 high speed ovals left. Absolutely awful.
Blame CART
@@DavidRSAT We should at least return to the medium ovals like Richmond, Phoenix, Loudon, Iowa or ovals like Chicagoland... There's no reason to classify them as dangerous while keeping tracks like Texas on the schedule.
If you have not done a piece on USAC stock car please do
FWIW a few years ago, I blogged about the 1973 Acme Super Saver 500 USAC stock car race at Pocono here: bench-racing.blogspot.com/2013/07/july-29-1973-petty-poaches-pocono.html
Robert Wickens is the Man! really look up to that guy.
Nice to see Bruce Jacobi in the newspaper photo. He is missed. Once again Nascarman and Senor Barba (Mr Beard) have done an excellent job with another great historical piece.
I went to the race from 1973 to 1978, then again from 1980 to 1987. The crowds were huge back in the 1970s. They need to go back there.
Somewhat incredible that the famous Pocono track had been though some tough times for its future. I had not looked up any info on when Roger Penske's first Indy victory was at Pocono with the famous Mark Donahue. I like the track design. Seems bigger ( though it isn't) bigger than the Indy track in Indianapolis.
Thanks for the history.
Can you do a episode on the 1996 Indy 500 and US 500 run on both the same day
5:43 I did not attend the first race but when I did a few years later for both NASCAR and the Indy Cars, the traffic was STILL a problem and if it rained the day of or before the race the parking areas were quagmire. Traffic definitely a deterrent and more casual fans would leave way before the finish to beat the traffic. It took years for the track management and the local authorities to realize they had to make all of the major arteries one way coming in to the track and one way going out to get the traffic problem solved.
Penske: And maybe I’ll start my own sanctioning organization...
48 years later...
And possibly a contract with Ferrari and other F1 teams starting with McLaren for Indy.
The Madman did it
I was at the race where Robert Wickens had that accident and it was probably one of the scariest moments i have ever been apart of
I went to this race every year but their taking it off the schedule, so that kinda really sucks.
I really like this track,it was so unique for the championship,but it needs changes to return and be safe
I’m sad Ontario isn’t around anymore.
brand new viewer and i love ur work man. keep it up man
Fantastic video as always
56 lead changes at Pocono for NASCAR?!?!
I really had no idea that the first years of Pocono was treated like a Month of May at Indy with the practice time, carb day practice etc.. Not sure if it had the traditional 4-lap Qualifying sessions but its very interesting to know how IndyCar really treated it as a very important race in the early days.
I’m a younger fan, I’m only 16, and I’ve been a Nascar fan for six years, so the IndyCar oval races were really the only thing that captivated me into the sport. Trust me, I have so much respect for the IndyCar guys and the skill involved, but truthfully I just don’t find some of the road courses to be that exciting, I was actually planning on going to the 2020 race before it was axed from the schedule (and the pandemic ofc) because I had always wanted to after that insane 2017 race. Its such a shame that Nascar with their shitty 550 hp package is the only race left at my home track, and im really guilty and upset that I never got to make it out there for indycar besides free practice in 2013.
Pocono was built for Indy cars.
Very good documentary about Pocono. I was there once in the late 70's for a Nascar race. I can remember it took hours to finally get out of the parking lot and onto the road after the race ended.
And the situation hasn't changed. About ten years ago the local government finally approved widening the road in front of the track...in the wrong direction. The widening never took place as everyone who heard about it pointed out how stupid it was to pave another lane 11 miles south to US-209 instead of 4 miles north to I-80.
In 1979 Michigan had the 3rd most lead changes. Man it’s falling just as hard as Pocono
It bugs me that they blame the race track at Pocon for the bad accidents that have happened there recently. The Justin Wilson incident was a fluke that could have happened anywhere. I don't know where Henry Surtees was killed in a similar incident, but I bet they didn't close down the track. The Wickens crash was terrible, but I suggest that the culprit wasn't anything inherent in Pocono as a race track but in the design of the cars. I've been watching Indy Car racing since the early 70's, and there have always been bad incidents, but it was a rare thing for most of those years when a car got airborne. This has become very common in recent years, and I'm no expert or aerodynamicist, but it seems to me the best way to prevent Wickens or Kenny Bräck type incidents is to keep the cars from flying through the air. I'm not saying it never happened back in the first 30 years or so I watched Indy Car or CART (for instance, Jeff Krosnoff), but now it seems to happen at least once a race when the race is at an oval. Some have even suggested eliminating oval tracks, but in that case, they should just cancel the series because it won't be Indy Cars. I don't know if it's the high speed or the design of the cars or a combination, but airborne cars being common place is something that has happened in the last 20 years, and it's not the fault of Pocono Raceway.
You should do more Indycar videos! This was very interesting
Me dad grew up maybe 30 minutes away from the flood of 72 as they call it. They lived on a hill but at the bottom the whole town was flooded
I love these videos recently found your channel
9:36 foreshadowing
Pocono needs to up their wall height and add a small spotter tower in turn 2. NASCAR can run the infield road course day 1 then the oval day 2 assuming they continue to do the double-header
19:05 they sound so tired of the wall breaking lol
To give you an idea of just how bad Agnes was to the state: the town my dad and I grew up with was an iron ore mining town, Agnes completely destroyed it. The mines never reopened, instead built a golf course right on top of it.
Pocono was built for open wheel racing, not NASCAR.
So disappointed that Pocono is once again off the schedule.
Having no IndyCar races in the Northeast is disgraceful.
The old triple crown of Indy, Michigan (after Ontario) and Pocono was something very special.
Pocono had some bad luck recently but the track is not too dangerous, that's a silly argument.
Glad we were able to make the last IndyCar race in August, we had a great time even with the rain.
It was on the schedule until days before it was released.
I think you may see it back if Pocono improves the fencing. How can you have 2 years in a row where you repair a fence with chicken wire? That's unacceptable for a track the size of Pocono. You think you'd see Indy or Daytona do that shit?
My guess is that it will be back in a year or 2. Especially if the aeroscreens are a success.
Personally I'd rather see them back at New Hampshire. Their return in 2011 was marred by rain all week and now since New Hampshire only has 1 cup date, they'll be wanting to fill gaps.
@@Posirep indy used the exact same repair technique pocono used when dixon tore up the fence in 2017. It's not chicken wire, they're pre built pieces designed for repairing fence.
In the small period I watched INDYCAR from 2015-2018, I was unfortunate enough to witness Justin Wilson’s Fatal Crash in 2015 And Robert Wickens’ Horrific wreck last year live both times
Windscreen cars would have saved them
@@mvd4436 would have saved Justin for sure. sadly I don't think any peace of modern safety gear could have helped Wickens.
Like? Like?!?! I fucking love Pocono.
Wow, never knew there was a double header stock car/Indycar weekend. I am still nearly speechless about Wickens and Wilson to this day. I love the idea behind the track but.
The speed is wicked in both good and bad. Dave Marcis pretty much snapped his window net in a wreck but that could've happened at any venue?
I think Pocono comes back in 2021, since I believe it's only off the 2020 schedule because of the Olympics
interesting hypothesis!
i've thought about that. Pretty much ever racing series is getting screwed over by the olympics next year. Even nascar has a big gap in their schedule
Your serious????
As much as that would be awesome...probably not
Are you serious Pocono Race Tracks is Dangerous Track and No Nascar will not come back of Pocono Raceway and Nascar will add Rockingham in June and Lime Rock Park in August in 2021
Wonderful video! It's nice to see the days when all the cars didn't look exactly the same, save for paint jobs.
Great work again! What software are you using to make your maps?
Always wondered what the racing would have been like in 2019 if they had mandated the use of the road course aero pack instead of the ultra low drag indy/oval aero.
Neat VinWiki reference with the thumbnail
15:15 weird to hear Brock talk about field fillers without getting excited
*presses thumbs up on the video and i haven’t even watched it yet*
You know it's going to be good when it's NascarMan
1,100-12 is a pretty good ratio lol
Yep! I always thumbs up videos from people I like first, then take it back only if the video isn’t good. That rarely happens.
And yes, I know your comment is a year old, but nascarman is still doing great videos. So, just in case the algorithm stopped recommending his stuff, this is a reminder. ;-)
@@alangriffin8146 his videos are great 😊
16:15. An awesome crash. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video!!!!
back here again in 2024
Best part about the whole thing is the same one way roads were there when I went as a kid in 2000
I loved this video!
LOL I couldn't help but notice what's up with this command and conquer theme music on every video now in days
6:15 Wait, Paul Newman was at the first Pocono 500??? Was that just after he did the movie "Winning!" (Aka the film that got him into auto racing.)
Yes, about two years after he did "Winning".
WTF!!! The spectator at 14:39
So sad that this race is gone
I loved going to Pocono. I went the last 4 years in a row and it was such a fun event. Although I understand why they took it off I hope they bring it back cause it was a very entertaining race
3:00 Was this an early sign that the track was haunted? Langhorne reincarnated.
Tbh I never knew Indy car went to Pocono but that truck is my opinion is hard af
As someone who goes to Pocono at least once a year for coaching new drivers, I find Pocono needs a lot of work to be able to host racing. Everything from catch fencing to the bathrooms needs to be addressed. NJMP over in southern NJ is in better condition than Pocono and they don’t have any major series
Is that Paul page yelling “WHAT AN AWESOME CRASH!” Not the correct choice of words there my friend.
The exact correct use of words. With the correct usage of awesome. The meaning of that word has been morphed over the years. It no longer means what it ment when he said it.
Only thing that’s missing is track vs track.
*literal apocalypse occurs*
Nope gotta vroom
I still don’t get why Indycar went with the aero package that they had in 2018. It absolutely hammered the racing.
The problem isn't just the track but the additional problem that indycar doesn't make a good oval car