Prince started this all..he would say "own your Masters or your "Masters" own you". He changed his name to a symbol and people made fun of him for being kooky... but he was getting out of his contract brilliantly. Warner Bros owned "Prince",, so he created a new name and because he's brilliant, he also created a story and a myth around it, so he was free to make music as "
I worked in music publshing '05-'11. The industry vibe was basically "ah this digital stuff will pass". It was embarassing and now the record labels are playing constant catch-up.
The movie industry did take a hit, and it's all but ruined filmmaking. They adapted by changing their product to solely franchise blockbusters and adaptations. They rarely do anything that doens't have a built-in audience to guarantee a return.
Truth, there's almost no good movies anymore. Once they realized they could just steal comic book stories it was over. I'm so tired of comic book movies.
imaratspal he doesnt mean actually steal, he means they dont come up with original projects they say heres some money give me the movie rights and ill make your book a movie
eh it's in chaos right now but it will even out, you get RUclips documentaries with really high quality I think it just means things will be independently funded
Since the physical movie stores have gone so have the quality movies. It all feels low budget now... Like where is the whoa factor anymore? In China cuz truth CGI be built there. Enjoy your next remake... Man, anyone whos seen generations of movies knows these are all remakes...
Steve Jobs had a really hard time licensing music for iTunes because record companies didn't want to sell individual tracks for .99cents. Record companies wanted people to buy albums. They hated the idea you could buy the hit singles and leave the rest of the tracks you didn't like.
used to always make me angry when I'd buy an album at the record store and it was 16.99 and only had three good songs, tho. always felt screwed. anyone else?
When the Music Industry collectively sued Napster, they had an opportunity to establish their own music streaming platform based on Napster but they were too stupid to understand digital evolution. Napster represented the Asteroid that fell to Earth, the Internet was the Yucatan Peninsula, and the Record Executives were the Dinosaurs,
They weren't stupid. Many of the major players involved in the music industry could not get involved because of who they were. Some people will know what I'm referring to.
@@CircularSight No, they were stupid. Digital streaming was taking over with or without them. And Napster inspired several clones, and it wasn't until Apple decided to clone Napster, and the first version of iTunes was a copy-and-paste rip-off of Napster, that got these music companies on board.
Interesting, glad to hear someone actually explain how things works for the artist. For the past 3-4 years I have used RUclips to listen or try out new music. If I like it then I will go buy the album. I may be really old school, but I still like physical media. So when I buy the album I like having the artwork. Although I don't carry the CD around anymore. I will make myself a digital copy to carry around.
The death of "the album" killed the music industry. I remember buying cds in the late 90s to early 2000s with my own money and getting pissed that there were only 2 to 4 good songs out of 12 to 15 and having to pay 20 dollars. I started buying older albums halfway through high school because if I sent the same 20 dollars I knew every track was good.
Same.. I bought many cds for 1-3 good songs.. Rest were filler.. Thats why i went to free downloading.. But I would buy the cd or record of good.. Now I just Spotify everything.
Some guys at work and I went in together and got Google Unlimited. I haven't bought any music since. I used to feel bad for the artists until I saw a show with Kurt Loder explaining that the artist aren't the ones who get the money from the album sales.
I remember Everlast appeared on a 90's British music show called the word. With Terry Christian. They sent him to the cannabis museum in Amsterdam. They let him smoke a bit. Try some competition winners. Then they tried to interview him live via satellite link. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 He couldn't even open his eyes. Legendary interview.
Someone is making more money on streaming than CDs or records. No store taking a cut, no production costs, reaching way more customers. Artists aren’t touring like they used to. Much easier to come out with a hit, upload it to Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music etc. stealing music isn’t new, burning CDs, sharing etc. Some of the musicians used to put out a CD with literally 1 good song and charge $15-20 back in the 1990s and they had no problem with that. I see both sides
Man, Everlast is cool. He knows how it goes on. I love Joe, and I can’t blame him for “selling out” to Spotify. Who could turn down an offer like that?(~$100M). I just wish he was still on RUclips. I’m not switching to Spotify. Even with Spotify Premium, there are ads. Idk. This world is crazy with aggressive marketing tactics everywhere you fucking look. Getting sick of it.
He is wrong on one thing. The music industry got the brunt of early downloading because the file sizes were reasonable to share. Full movies files were just too big for people to transfer, too difficult to playback on a home tv and dvd burners were expensive until much later.
Was thinking the same thing. File size was a very restrictive factor on a 56k connection especially since most companies had usage caps and overages when Napster was blowing up.
I’m glad he interrupted Rogan like three times before he could derail him with pointless question before he could come full circle on his point.... because he was spitting major facts major truth. Joe be so high he don’t let people come full circle with wtf they talking about
Brandon Bird he likes interrupting people for his own personal curiosity which no one else gives a fuck, he doesn’t understand and even see when someone is dropping gems on people.
Brandon Bird they’ll always be mid point and he goes on with something else instead of letting people finish what he originally asked, and that shit happens constantly through out the podcast
60s, 70s and 80s for me musically. Not much after that. An individual artist here and there but that's it after the 80s as far as popular music for me. Maybe I'm just getting too old for it. Then there's jazz and other musical forms to follow.
wendel.f16 - Jack White creates his own sphere of influence. He lives here in Nashville and has a studio or two (or three) and built a vinyl printing press just for the shit of it. We think he just enjoys watching the huge mechanical press spitting out actual records. I have no idea who is buying them, and I doubt it matters.
Dude owning your masters is having all the rights and 100% ownership of your recordings. That's what 'masters' are... Recordings of music. This goes way way back long before streaming was even created.
I worked in the music industry my whole career and I left because I didn't like the direction it was going in. All they do now is allocate marketing and A&R budget to shitty pop music genres that are already popular (making it even more popular unfortunately) and artists that already have big Instagram accounts full of simps. Labels no longer take risks or push groundbreaking music. The last 10 years of music has been the WORST in popular culture history. Something needs to change.
The taste test method is actually giving more artists an opportunity. Seeing the record as a business card is the new way to do it. Promoting the live show.
Everlast seems like such a cool dude. I always bought the album if it was one of my favorite bands but other ones I did the "taste test" thing like he was saying.
Gotta love the part where Everlast said record companies should have go after kids who download music back in the day. Joe gets him with "have you ever downloaded". Everlast responds with "well I see it as a taste test". Hypocrite much?
I don't know how these people can claim no one was buying albums during the era of napster. Britney's debut album went 14x platinum and was released maybe 6 months before napster.
I remember when all that napster shit started. Lars spoke out and got crucified in the popular culture for doing so. Now most of those people have suddenly realised way too late that he wasn't uncool, he was right.
I wonder what the real percentage of if I like it, I buy it crowd is. Less than 1 in a million? I wonder how many of them are also vinyl/cd collectors. 🤷♂️
@@wes1hoskins The video game industry is in the middle of that. While they did find ways to protect their shit like DRM which everyone hates, it's still quite easy to get games without paying.
@11:00 “Hopsin” is the artist that they confused with “Chance”. There is a great interview from Hot97 with Hopsin where he talks about the ups and downs of being the rapper/manager/promoter
Thays exactly the way i feel about it. I check out an album on downloads, but if i like the album i go to my "local" record store and buy a physical copy. I sill like to see the cover art amd notes. I love checking out the writing and production credits.
That was the old respect, I and people I knew did the same. Always paid for music we enjoyed whether we originally downloaded it for free or not. We had our eyes on the future.
They do! I see the guys selling right outside the shows. You even have to own your trademarks in foreign countries to make sure your stuff isn't getting bootlegged. The music business is tuff
Movie files are way bigger. There were harder to download back in those days and quality definitely wasn’t that great. This is why music was easier to pirate.
This whole conversation makes me think about prince, who was writing the word slave on his face, people said he was.crazy, but he kept saying if u dont own your masters, your masters own u. It.was mid 90s and I dont think he ever figured out how to make streaming work for him, but he was the 1st to realized the ground shifted and u needed to take control of ure stuff.
Whether you call it "owning your master tapes" or "having publishing rights" it amounts to the same snowjob. Artists sometime sign their rights away and 20 years later they have nothing to show for their body of work.
As a musician I've always felt the album is the commercial you can consume for free. My live performance where i still work on tour is my source of income. The tradeoff for doing what I love is making the album in my own time on my own dime so I can get you to buy a ticket and come see me perform.
"Music is the only commodity that has been consumed before it's been purchased" Some fella called Hawk told me that once. He said he wrote ain't no body for Chaka Kahn.
A lot of artists also aren't writing their own music totally on their own now. Bands used to write their own music without any outside help or influence. Artists now have a team of song writers creating the song a lot of the time. There are more hands in the cookie jar. If I was in a band and we wrote all of the music without anyone else's help with the creative side, you're damn right I wouldn't want someone else owning the masters.
All those people are friends and relatives from the record companies. This is why we have 12 producers on one fu*king song so they can make more money.
What's funny about the music industry is, some teen was facing 10 years in prison for illegally downloading a shit ton of Michael Jackson songs, but the doctor who was responsible for actually killing Michael Jackson, got 2 years in prison.
I was a freshman in college when Facebook RUclips and MySpace first came out. I was making beats on fruityloops trying to get in the game. Me and my guys got to do a tour based on our MySpace streams we did shows with whiz kahlifa because he had a few thousand more streams than we did. We eventually got a deal from rocafella records for only 5k that went nowhere lol I eventually lost the love for the music biz but I get upset with myself from time to time because we didn’t know the power of RUclips at the time the whole social media thing was new and we would have been there from the start.
+Tommy Arnold Most bands do. It is only the mainstream pop and rap crap that have all sold out. Go look into any alternative or underground scene and you will find real bands that put love, heart and feeling into their music. Stay away from anything top 40 or playing on commercial radio or tv.
Yeah it was disgusting. Metallica was already dead in my mind by then though. Still stung that one of my favourite bands growing up had that sort of greedy misguided mindset.
Yeah I found it very hypocritical that Lars was so passionate about it even though that went against a lot of what Metallica's music meant. They were anti control and antiestablishmentarians. I guess Money corrupts is a pretty true statement.
It’s nice to actually hear this guy talk from Everlast. I’ve just been hearing that stupid song what it’s like played so much into the dirt that I avoid anything to do with that band. Pretty cool insight on how that industry works.
Some things are simply a hoodie. Nothing more nothing less, just a hoodie. I understand all of the symbolism but really some things are just a f****** hoodie.
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Prince started this all..he would say "own your Masters or your "Masters" own you". He changed his name to a symbol and people made fun of him for being kooky... but he was getting out of his contract brilliantly. Warner Bros owned "Prince",, so he created a new name and because he's brilliant, he also created a story and a myth around it, so he was free to make music as "
He's not the first artist to own his masters..
Michael Jackson did one better...he bought the BEATLES catalog for cheap in the 80s...
Ray Charles was doing this 20/30 years before Prince
@@MouseInYourEye You're right. It's documented in the Excellent Film, "Ray"
Frank Zappa owned all his own stuff, studio at the house, there's a couple years he released 6 albums
The title of this video should have been:
"The music industry, and what it's like"
Nice plug
Very clever
Interesting hearing Joes opinion on telling Spotify NO until they just offered him $100M today hahaha
This is AWESOME! I found it by accident and hes talking about Spotify!
He got more than that.
Would you turn down 100M?
@@dominiclacroix7877 They all would.
SHATTTT UP
Everlast oughtta do voice work because that timber cuts straight to the point
I just picked the new record up...
I am a fan
I worked in music publshing '05-'11. The industry vibe was basically "ah this digital stuff will pass". It was embarassing and now the record labels are playing constant catch-up.
Haha I can confirm this is true.
That's the same as blockbuster saying Netflix was insignificant.
Dinosaurs
Thanks Tim,
Hubris! That makes perfect sense.
The movie industry did take a hit, and it's all but ruined filmmaking. They adapted by changing their product to solely franchise blockbusters and adaptations. They rarely do anything that doens't have a built-in audience to guarantee a return.
Truth, there's almost no good movies anymore. Once they realized they could just steal comic book stories it was over. I'm so tired of comic book movies.
"steal comic book stories"
You mean compensate the creator to do an on-screen adaptation of their work?
imaratspal he doesnt mean actually steal, he means they dont come up with original projects they say heres some money give me the movie rights and ill make your book a movie
eh it's in chaos right now but it will even out, you get RUclips documentaries with really high quality I think it just means things will be independently funded
Since the physical movie stores have gone so have the quality movies. It all feels low budget now... Like where is the whoa factor anymore? In China cuz truth CGI be built there. Enjoy your next remake... Man, anyone whos seen generations of movies knows these are all remakes...
Steve Jobs had a really hard time licensing music for iTunes because record companies didn't want to sell individual tracks for .99cents. Record companies wanted people to buy albums. They hated the idea you could buy the hit singles and leave the rest of the tracks you didn't like.
used to always make me angry when I'd buy an album at the record store and it was 16.99 and only had three good songs, tho. always felt screwed. anyone else?
When the Music Industry collectively sued Napster, they had an opportunity to establish their own music streaming platform based on Napster but they were too stupid to understand digital evolution. Napster represented the Asteroid that fell to Earth, the Internet was the Yucatan Peninsula, and the Record Executives were the Dinosaurs,
Nice little analogy 👍🤣
@@413. 🦖
Sammy Sosa say you hitted big jon rón neega.
Goo Jah, Goo Jah mang.
They weren't stupid. Many of the major players involved in the music industry could not get involved because of who they were. Some people will know what I'm referring to.
@@CircularSight No, they were stupid. Digital streaming was taking over with or without them. And Napster inspired several clones, and it wasn't until Apple decided to clone Napster, and the first version of iTunes was a copy-and-paste rip-off of Napster, that got these music companies on board.
massive talent- really really underrated-- LOVED HIM THEN: .LOVE HIM NOW. voice of ages .
Sober october made Rogan age 4 years in 4 days
how so?
heʻs acting a little bit nornal
He looks miserable as fuck on every podcast since October 1st hahaha
😂😂
Its the stress. With all the drugs and Alcohol he dosent have to take the full force of it...lol
I mean he dosent look that back. Lol
Interesting, glad to hear someone actually explain how things works for the artist.
For the past 3-4 years I have used RUclips to listen or try out new music.
If I like it then I will go buy the album. I may be really old school, but I still like physical media. So when I buy the album I like having the artwork. Although I don't carry the CD around anymore. I will make myself a digital copy to carry around.
The death of "the album" killed the music industry. I remember buying cds in the late 90s to early 2000s with my own money and getting pissed that there were only 2 to 4 good songs out of 12 to 15 and having to pay 20 dollars.
I started buying older albums halfway through high school because if I sent the same 20 dollars I knew every track was good.
Same.. I bought many cds for 1-3 good songs.. Rest were filler.. Thats why i went to free downloading..
But I would buy the cd or record of good.. Now I just Spotify everything.
Some guys at work and I went in together and got Google Unlimited. I haven't bought any music since.
I used to feel bad for the artists until I saw a show with Kurt Loder explaining that the artist aren't the ones who get the money from the album sales.
if a cd had 3 singles I liked id buy it, and would love getting it opening it looking at artwork and enjoying it like a movie
All this was my life too. Loved it. Loved the artwork, always anxious to see what the actual CD looked like, if the lyrics were printed....
Golden era
I remember Everlast appeared on a 90's British music show called the word.
With Terry Christian.
They sent him to the cannabis museum in Amsterdam.
They let him smoke a bit.
Try some competition winners.
Then they tried to interview him live via satellite link.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He couldn't even open his eyes.
Legendary interview.
Damn Eminem and everlast got the same fashion sense 😂
I think everlasting wins the wierd beard contest
cHAZE weird. They dress hip-hop heads/emcees.. just like Sway
Whigger Boomer gear
cHAZE em became everlast
And they had beef
Now in 2022 he’s explicitly on Spotify 👍
Everyone has a price.
Someone is making more money on streaming than CDs or records. No store taking a cut, no production costs, reaching way more customers. Artists aren’t touring like they used to. Much easier to come out with a hit, upload it to Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music etc. stealing music isn’t new, burning CDs, sharing etc. Some of the musicians used to put out a CD with literally 1 good song and charge $15-20 back in the 1990s and they had no problem with that. I see both sides
Tom A lol no one is making a living streaming, 8k per million streams is a joke
Prince spoke truth and was way a head of the times about this issue...
But later prince back peddled and gave away music for free
@@lochofmceo yeah true.. giving away free music he then owned 👍
true
Man, Everlast is cool. He knows how it goes on. I love Joe, and I can’t blame him for “selling out” to Spotify. Who could turn down an offer like that?(~$100M). I just wish he was still on RUclips. I’m not switching to Spotify. Even with Spotify Premium, there are ads. Idk. This world is crazy with aggressive marketing tactics everywhere you fucking look. Getting sick of it.
Everlast is my favorite reoccurring guest I can listen to these 2 talk for hours
Damn. Everlast knows his shit 😂 he literally knows about digital marketing than most of these idiot digital ad agencies around today
He is wrong on one thing. The music industry got the brunt of early downloading because the file sizes were reasonable to share. Full movies files were just too big for people to transfer, too difficult to playback on a home tv and dvd burners were expensive until much later.
Was thinking the same thing. File size was a very restrictive factor on a 56k connection especially since most companies had usage caps and overages when Napster was blowing up.
Yea it would take me like a week to download a movie back then
I never had that issue...I live in the northeast and remember having cable internet by the time Napster came about
Fuck them! They never paid artist shit any way. Stop capping for those blood suckers
Yeah me too, these people probably live in the woods.
Whitie Ford sings the blues is one of the greatest albums ever
cameron angel - yep. a nice blend of rock, folk, hip hop etc. his next album, "eat at whitey's" was great as well.
Definitely a great album very underrated in my opinion
Start to finish it’s all quality music. Wee put, my man.
I’m glad he interrupted Rogan like three times before he could derail him with pointless question before he could come full circle on his point.... because he was spitting major facts major truth. Joe be so high he don’t let people come full circle with wtf they talking about
Brandon Bird he likes interrupting people for his own personal curiosity which no one else gives a fuck, he doesn’t understand and even see when someone is dropping gems on people.
Brandon Bird they’ll always be mid point and he goes on with something else instead of letting people finish what he originally asked, and that shit happens constantly through out the podcast
@@marley1995 I think Joe is just trying to keep it going like most interviewers and over does it subconsciously.
it’s sober october
Anthony A haha you right
Great explanation of the music industry. Easy to understand, seems like a chill guy
Joe "I had a record deal in 1999" Rogan
Theres a lack of comedy albums lately because modern music IS the joke 😂😂😂
Good one
Real shit.
60s, 70s and 80s for me musically. Not much after that. An individual artist here and there but that's it after the 80s as far as popular music for me. Maybe I'm just getting too old for it. Then there's jazz and other musical forms to follow.
There once was a man who liked to jump around
Jump around
Jump up, jump up and get down!
But he got too old 2 jump up and doooownnn
So he put the mic down and picked the guitar up
left his boyz in the house of pain...(house of pain)
Everlast should have a podcast....
Jack White own all of his masters. Every song he ever made is his.Its like the dude knew about the stream industry beforehand.
wendel.f16 - Jack White creates his own sphere of influence. He lives here in Nashville and has a studio or two (or three) and built a vinyl printing press just for the shit of it. We think he just enjoys watching the huge mechanical press spitting out actual records. I have no idea who is buying them, and I doubt it matters.
Or he saw what happened to John Fogerty, The Beatles, The Eagles & about a hundred other bands. The music industry hasn't changed that much.
wendel.f16 no- he couldnt get a deal.
Dude owning your masters is having all the rights and 100% ownership of your recordings. That's what 'masters' are... Recordings of music. This goes way way back long before streaming was even created.
3:07 This didn’t age well
Joe Rogan: No Spotify
Spotify: Here, have a few million $$ up front
Joe: Here, take my soul!
Grt voice for a radio morning show
I worked in the music industry my whole career and I left because I didn't like the direction it was going in. All they do now is allocate marketing and A&R budget to shitty pop music genres that are already popular (making it even more popular unfortunately) and artists that already have big Instagram accounts full of simps. Labels no longer take risks or push groundbreaking music. The last 10 years of music has been the WORST in popular culture history. Something needs to change.
Truth Crushed to Earth is my favourite hip hop album hands down!
Hologramix 1 all three HOP albums were great
Soo underrated
The taste test method is actually giving more artists an opportunity. Seeing the record as a business card is the new way to do it. Promoting the live show.
So valuable for musicians trying to break through in this day and age. Great job, loved it!
Best thing to do is have your own record label and work hard 😊 keep everything in the band or as much as you can! It can be done
Phish, the cure, rem, XTC, Romeo void............grateful dead
Chance The Rapper is Spike Lee’s godson. He’s always had some kind of help.
Ohhhhhhhhh!
His dad also worked as part of the Obama administration
Which is how he got so close to Kanye
Everlast seems like such a cool dude. I always bought the album if it was one of my favorite bands but other ones I did the "taste test" thing like he was saying.
Gotta love the part where Everlast said record companies should have go after kids who download music back in the day. Joe gets him with "have you ever downloaded". Everlast responds with "well I see it as a taste test". Hypocrite much?
Usually the liberal ones like him are hypocrites to the core
I don't know how these people can claim no one was buying albums during the era of napster. Britney's debut album went 14x platinum and was released maybe 6 months before napster.
I remember when all that napster shit started. Lars spoke out and got crucified in the popular culture for doing so. Now most of those people have suddenly realised way too late that he wasn't uncool, he was right.
you forgot the part of if he likes it he would buy it.
I wonder what the real percentage of if I like it, I buy it crowd is. Less than 1 in a million?
I wonder how many of them are also vinyl/cd collectors. 🤷♂️
He's delusional if he thinks piracy could have been stopped with lawsuits.
@Boss_Man_T Even monetizing downloads can't help.
J-O, the point he was making is that the fact that they pulled off the lawsuits lead to what it became.
What about the video game industry? They were able to protect their property
@@wes1hoskins The video game industry is in the middle of that. While they did find ways to protect their shit like DRM which everyone hates, it's still quite easy to get games without paying.
He has such a great voice for voiceover. Great video.
7:21
They did make a documentary about all this, it's called Artifact.
Really interesting look behind the curtain of the music industry.
@11:00 “Hopsin” is the artist that they confused with “Chance”. There is a great interview from Hot97 with Hopsin where he talks about the ups and downs of being the rapper/manager/promoter
No wonder I dug this guy's work so much. He is super smart.
Everlast interrupted Joe 10,000 times: I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Thays exactly the way i feel about it. I check out an album on downloads, but if i like the album i go to my "local" record store and buy a physical copy. I sill like to see the cover art amd notes. I love checking out the writing and production credits.
Jamie coming in hot with the “sures”...
Everlast is awesome. About time for new music.
Legend!!! Dropping serious science about the music industry...
That was the old respect, I and people I knew did the same. Always paid for music we enjoyed whether we originally downloaded it for free or not. We had our eyes on the future.
I'm pretty sure T shirts get bootlegged too.
They do! I see the guys selling right outside the shows. You even have to own your trademarks in foreign countries to make sure your stuff isn't getting bootlegged. The music business is tuff
fr , only thing you can't bootleg is a live show
"Ends"
Holly shit, didn't know Everlast released a new album. I just went and bought it on itunes!
Album is fantastic
Well worth a torrent..lol
How good is it.
Whitey Ford Sings The Blues love that album
Love how now hes going to spotify
this dude is dope, great voice
Movie files are way bigger. There were harder to download back in those days and quality definitely wasn’t that great. This is why music was easier to pirate.
one of my favorite JRE guests
Big fan of everlast since forever!
"Pack it up, pack it in..."
"Let me begin "
Pick it, pack it, fire it up. Come along and do hits from the bong.
I’m late to the party but I gotta say this is one of the best podcast out
P71 Blanco How’s the P71?
P71 Blanco Word
Yo, we need to beat you in before you can just jump up in here and talk for yourself bro.
@@RawDogTV he means the podcast not the episode
@@JonnyUnderrated lmfao this nigga 😂
This whole conversation makes me think about prince, who was writing the word slave on his face, people said he was.crazy, but he kept saying if u dont own your masters, your masters own u. It.was mid 90s and I dont think he ever figured out how to make streaming work for him, but he was the 1st to realized the ground shifted and u needed to take control of ure stuff.
I'm here because of Joe selling the fuck out to spotify and abandoning the youtube community. interesting how he said "nope" here
100M $ bro
@@lcazaoui he probably would have made that if he kept to youtube. and he'd keep is predictability
no doubt his plays are going down
Whether you call it "owning your master tapes" or "having publishing rights" it amounts to the same snowjob. Artists sometime sign their rights away and 20 years later they have nothing to show for their body of work.
Dude looks chill af. I think to myself: what was going on inside his head when he decided to start a beef with Em
$elling record$
Wheres the whole podcast? I want to watch this
Yo thanks for posting this.
Everlast straight up gave him business advice. Get that cream, Joe!
GOD DAMNN. THIS EPISODE IS THE ONE THAT CHANGED JOE ROGANS MONEY. CRAZY. aged like fine wine..
Hey Joe, way to dodge the sponsoring questions and the random face at 4:26 🤣
As a musician I've always felt the album is the commercial you can consume for free. My live performance where i still work on tour is my source of income. The tradeoff for doing what I love is making the album in my own time on my own dime so I can get you to buy a ticket and come see me perform.
If you write the song, you should own it.. Period..that's a very naive way of 🧬 oking at things
House of pain is in effect y’all
hopefully indie music and indie art in general can start to grow
Fuck my mouth
"Music is the only commodity that has been consumed before it's been purchased"
Some fella called Hawk told me that once.
He said he wrote ain't no body for Chaka Kahn.
thumbnail makes it look like joe has a massive soul patch goatee. great interview, everlast is a true artist.
The stuff he put out a few months ago was sick. Best rap I've heard in a decade.
l u heard I get by? that song was fire
Damn this was deep
I'm a musician. Never made money on my own but I've worked the merch table for bands that do hahaha.
Lots of wisdom in this video!
A lot of artists also aren't writing their own music totally on their own now. Bands used to write their own music without any outside help or influence. Artists now have a team of song writers creating the song a lot of the time. There are more hands in the cookie jar. If I was in a band and we wrote all of the music without anyone else's help with the creative side, you're damn right I wouldn't want someone else owning the masters.
All those people are friends and relatives from the record companies. This is why we have 12 producers on one fu*king song so they can make more money.
Yeah, if i bootlegged a bands album and liked it, i bought the album.
Good man. 👊😎
What's funny about the music industry is, some teen was facing 10 years in prison for illegally downloading a shit ton of Michael Jackson songs, but the doctor who was responsible for actually killing Michael Jackson, got 2 years in prison.
When comedy albums were big, people had TVs. This was the 70s and 80s. What they didn't have was a VCR... But everyone had a record player.
I was a freshman in college when Facebook RUclips and MySpace first came out. I was making beats on fruityloops trying to get in the game. Me and my guys got to do a tour based on our MySpace streams we did shows with whiz kahlifa because he had a few thousand more streams than we did. We eventually got a deal from rocafella records for only 5k that went nowhere lol I eventually lost the love for the music biz but I get upset with myself from time to time because we didn’t know the power of RUclips at the time the whole social media thing was new and we would have been there from the start.
Imagine if people just went back to doing music for the love of music...
Go look at any blues artist. Davey Knowles, Simon McBride, Bryce Janey
+Tommy Arnold
Most bands do. It is only the mainstream pop and rap crap that have all sold out. Go look into any alternative or underground scene and you will find real bands that put love, heart and feeling into their music. Stay away from anything top 40 or playing on commercial radio or tv.
love vs money
It'll be a revolution!
Record industry crash would be the best thing ever to happen to music. Would weed out all the moronic billboard garbage that people listen to.
Lars Ulrich went to bat against Napster! He battled for the longest time I remember all that it was crazy!
What's your aol instant messenger ?
Yeah it was disgusting. Metallica was already dead in my mind by then though. Still stung that one of my favourite bands growing up had that sort of greedy misguided mindset.
@@VestigialHead you would think KISS would be the suing type.
Yeah I found it very hypocritical that Lars was so passionate about it even though that went against a lot of what Metallica's music meant. They were anti control and antiestablishmentarians. I guess Money corrupts is a pretty true statement.
Lars fuckin sucks
It’s nice to actually hear this guy talk from Everlast. I’ve just been hearing that stupid song what it’s like played so much into the dirt that I avoid anything to do with that band. Pretty cool insight on how that industry works.
That was basically everyone's philosophy for downloading songs in the beginning. I ended up owning the CDs for most of the stuff I dl.
My man just dropped “trollism”
Groundbreaking terminology
'Battle me that's a sin'
Remember in the Big Lobaowski, when the pom king, put his whole catalog on the line.
In like 91.
Why aren't Everlast's full episodes on youtube anymore?!?!?
Jamie, master of hip hop and mumble rap knowledge, and that's about it.
Master of physics too, don't forget
@@aceman4929 lmfao
Dilated Peoples had some good albums.
Expansion Team is still dope to this day
I wish he had mentioned the beef with em
Everlast is one of the best country singers ever.
You make the documentary!
Don't wait for someone else.
Make it and SELL IT, baby! 👍
Everlast’s Illuminati hoodie got triangles, one eye and beast symbology.
FINALLY someone who is awake!!!
Stay awake brother.
Yep. Freemasonic imagery, right in plain view. They like to mock us using that tactic.
Some things are simply a hoodie. Nothing more nothing less, just a hoodie. I understand all of the symbolism but really some things are just a f****** hoodie.
Echo The Cat there are triangles and one eye symbols on the dollar but that don’t mean nothin too right. 😴😴😴😈
I am also a "Lemme taste it first, and I will buy if I like it" kind of guy.
He was famous before starting streaming . Can not be compare to new artist getting his name out in streaming platform.