HMS Vanguard run aground on way to breakers 1960
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025
- Short video clip of HMS Vanguard, the Royal Navy's last battleship, run aground at Portsmouth on way to breakers in 1960.
I like to think she was heading to the Still & West for a pint of Gales.
Without doubt the scrapping of the last British Battleship must rate as one of the greatest tragedies in the history of our heritage.
Why?
+swagmaster
That's the sad thing. You can't. Out of the 96 battleships of the Royal Navy (53 pre-Dreadnought and 43 post-Dreadnought), none were preserved. On the other hand, 8 out the US Navy's 57 battleships (25 pre-Dreadnought and 32 post-Dreadnought) are preserved as museums.
My thoughts also,should of put her next to Belfast,but she never saw battle.
@@RedXlV exactly
Add HMS Ark Royal to that list.
After all the wonderful battleships the Royal Navy constructed I still cannot believe they didn't save one.....
they tried to save HMS Warspite, but the funding simply wasn't there.
Yeah it’s shocking isn’t it. Most battleships ever in the world we had. The only thing I can sympathise with is that there simply wasn’t the funding there to museum any. The country was broke after 2 World wars, no coincidence the Empire started to crumble at the same time, 50’s - 70’s.
But you think they could of left one in light care & pres still in the navy list until funding was available. They would of made so much money in the long run through tourism. United States have saved lots of theirs. We have the Belfast a cruiser and a couple of destroyers and corvettes dotted around GB, not including wooden ships.
Thorny_Boy718 Could have been sold to a third party like Texas was. The country shouldn’t be the one and only expected person to pay for the preservation.
I’d rather see the submarine museums scrapped than see Warspite and Vanguard go. I’d rather they be sunk as targets or reefs than be scrapped.
Biggest fuck up they did was the lack of preserving Warspite’s artefacts. Her nameplate was in a pub in Cornwall for a while but was sold anonymously at an auction and now it’s gone....
Thorny_Boy718 I’m Surprise Caroline survives as long as she did.
Honestly I say built a full-scale replica of Warspite to be used as a museum ship.
They didn't save any after WW1 when we had more battleships to save. So why do you think they would save one after WW2? There's always a shopping list. Why didn't they save Vanguard or Warspite or KGV or Rodney etc etc. They didn't save them because it would have cost a fortune and the nation was bankrupt. They were obsolete and worth ready cash as scrap. Simple economics.
Warspite ran aground on the way to the breakers yard too.
I'm sure one of Vanguards 15 inch guns came from Warspite so perhaps she (Vanguard) also inherited a little of Warspite's defiance!
The first scrapping operation carried out when the Vanguard arrived in Scotland was the removal of the mighty guns up forward. I remember the operation as the dockyard matey cut/burnt through them and they crashed to the fo'csle deck.
No it's because british sailors can't do shit properly
@@DrLoverLover We literally did rule the waves,see you learn something new when you know nothing ;)
She did. Her guns were from various ships, one was Warspite, others from Glorious, Valiant, Resolution, and others. The fact that Glorious’ was among them meant they had huge historical significance, Glorious’ should’ve at least been saved as a memorial to her sinking.
@@Aelvir114
Damn, such a tragedy 😔
My Father was on her on the way to the scrapyard. She was a beautiful ship.
I was the communications op on the fo'csle passing information from the pilot on the bridge to the fo'csle party as this occurred. We were actually aground at the 'Still & West' pub not far from the Gosport ferry point. One of the tugs was 'Bustler'. During the passage up to the Clyde we needed some form of upper deck lighting to warn other shipping. As a recently trained EM fresh from HMS 'Collingwood' I was asked to remove the triple array of 'spotlights' from the top mast structure and rig them up to illuminate the bridge & upper structure during night time towing at sea. The traditional 'last tot of rum' which featured in the film was actually cold tea as there was no rum on board.
It's all your fault then!!! :-) I was only 14 and stood outside the Still& West and watched you do it.....
No wonder the quartermaster tried to take a pub as a prize.
Even the theat of Cold tea can do that to a man...
My dad was navy by HMS Vanguard in 1950 s. Wish keep ship in future. Sad don't like scrapping. Beautiful ship. Best British.
Poor Vanguard! A unique and beautiful ship, but destined to become little than a very expensive royal yacht. She never fought a battle, but apparently her 15 inch guns had been fired in action during the First World War.
...and for that reason alone she should have been preserved as a tribute to thousands of men and BOYS who went to their graves aboard HMS Hood, HMS Royal Oak, HMS Barham, Prince of Wales, Repulse, and dozens of cruisers and destroyers and merchantmen. The Royal Navy's tradition of having apprentice seamen, or 'boys" [I believe as young as 14] aboard ships even during active hostilities ceased shortly after Royal Oak was torpedoed at Scapa Flow. I think about 150 'boys" [along with perhaps hundreds more young men aged 17 to 19] died when she went down.
British battleships had a very rough time of it in WW2, with a number going down in action with huge loss of life. However, it pales by comparison with what happened to the Japanese capital fleet , of which many, like Royal Oak and Barham, were destroyed by submarines.
Her guns are from the battlecruisers Courageous and Glorious. Neither ship would survive the 2nd world war.
@@russellbrown7028 , yes...but they conserved the Mikasa, their pre-dreadnought.
Compared to HMS Hood, which was 21 years old when she was sunk in action, this ship was a relative baby. Scrapped after barely a decade in service. They couldn't even have put her in reserve? Four US battleships were in commission almost half a century after they were launched; Vanguard couldn't have had some weapons modernization?
Thanks to the USA handing us a massive bill after WW2 Britain was utterly bankrupt.
Even maintaining a battleship in reserve condition requires significant annual expenditure. Keeping it in commission was simply out of the question when the Royal Navy was struggling to fund much more useful ships, such as aircraft carriers and submarines.
Using _Vanguard_ as a missile carrier would have been much more expensive than building a new ship for the purpose. The USN considered finishing two incomplete battleships as missile carriers, but concluded that it was not cost-effective.
HMS Hood dying in battle was a more honorable way to end her carrier, then this horrow show
The last Battleship ever built and it was scrapped. What were they fecking thinking. If they had actually thought about it properly as from a future prospective, they may have realised that she would be a priceless museum piece and a proud reminder of the days when Britain ruled the waves.
The last battle ship of the Royal Navy is a real pity its demolition
It's too sad seeing any ship going to the scrappers. Especially Battleships! For me, anyway. I should have been born 50-100 years earlier than I was.
Not to save a single battleship is tragic.
Vanguard, along with the last two George V class ships Anson and Howe, could possibly have been rebuilt as a carrier either during late WW2 or shortly after but it would have been a very expensive project. Even in that case, large carriers are yet more exorbitant to operate than battleships and post-WW2 Britain could barely afford to run itself, let alone a fleet of capital ships roaming the world's oceans.
Economic duress and political self-doubt put paid to this (almost new) ship; doubtless, the RN were starry-eyed over missiles, yet the USN had the foresight to hold 4 BBs in the Reserve Fleet, destined to become cruise missile platforms and symbols of power-projection. Imagine: if an Iowa Class rocked-up, off your coast, you knew you'd pissed them off; Vanguard could've achieved similar and served into the early 1990s too.
Imagine your coast line and nearby cities erupt in flames without seeing a ship on the horizon, the US Navy can make that happen without a battleship.
I was staying on the TS Foudroyant ( I was a NTC cadet) and saw the Vanguard come into the dockyard. Impressive sight . Such a waste. Should have been preserved in Pompey or London.
Oh dear , the greatest ships never want to go they run aground .
R.I.P. H.M.S Vanguard
Scandalous!, the RN allowed that the last of her own battleships went directly to the break yard, not conserving a single one, the last one... SHAME! The Germans did exactly the same crime when they refused to accept from the Turks the battlecruiser Goeben, a stupendous ship built for the Imperial Navy.
HMS Vanguard's mechanical soul heard the warming of HMS Warspite, it did not want to go, machines are more beautiful and alive than us at times,
HMS Hood & Prince of Wales, dying in battle was the honorable way for a warship to end, better to live on in song and tale than scrapped, now those such as HMS King George the 5th, Duke of York, Repulse, Queen Elizabeth, Warspite, Illustrious, RM Richelius, Jean Bart & KMS Prinz Eugen only live on in images & stories,
Totally agree
I think it would have been better to send troops to Korea during the Korean War to provide artillery support than to throw away the HMS Vangard.
Where are the battleships?
She tried to them poor girl but they didnt listen damn penny pinchers .. such history such legacy lost
What a waste! The Royal Navy should have kept at least one,......a real slap to the face,....to honor the past,honors the future,...not to be forgotten. Well at least they still have her wooden ships......and a sub I think? Captured?
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Evil. Wrong. Stupid beyond belief... in that order.
HMS Vanguard ran aground in 1960 not 10 years ago.
It should have been Warspite that was saved but after that glaring screw up, Vanguard would have done just fine. Just stupid not to have saved her, but Labor hated the military in the 50s and 60s and this was not a surprise.
Criminal 😐
Pretty ship. But obsolete when she was launched. Would cost an absolute fortune to preserve
It seems the Brtish didn't know how to preserved the right heritage.......I believe they didn't preserve any of their dreadnought era ships (the USN did with USS Texas), they didn't preserve any of their modern era battleships (plenty of example from the USN), not a single aircraft carrier.Even the defeated Japanese Navy preserved one of their pre-dreadnought battleships. With the help of the USN.
vanguard would have made more money as a museum.just shows what a bunch of muppets our goverment is.i hope i can get the money together to visit the usa and get an experience of a battleship,as thats the only chance i'll have,or my children,due to the stupid decisions of those that ran our country
HMS Belfast is preserved
www.iwm.org.uk/visits/hms-belfast
1960, I doubt you were born with ideas like yours! Britain was more debt ridden then and still paying back US War loans. Saving a ship that had never fired a shot in anger was the least of our worries.
Belfast is a cruiser......I'm talking about the big guns...
But Belfast had seen action Vanguard had not
WHAT A DISGRACE.
such a waste
Hahahaha superior seamanship Ahahahahaahaha
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