Stephan Sterns JAIL EMAILS with Parents, They Want Jenn Soto ARRESTED! (Madeline Soto)
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- The District Attorney's office has released NEW Information in Madeline Soto's case, including jail emails from Stephan Sterns to his parents. Let's discuss the latest details.
Case Background: Madeline Soto was last seen on February 26th, 2024. Her body was found five days later in a wooded area less than an hour from home and her mother's boyfriend was arrested. Stephan Sterns's phone revealed disgusting evidence of what he has been doing to Madeline since she was at least 8 years old. He has been charged with her murder and over 60 CSAM-related charges and faces the death penalty, if convicted.
If you have any information/tips to help find Madeline, please contact the Orange County Sheriff's Office at 407-254-7000, or call 1-800-423-TIPS (8477) or call 911.
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:50 Over-coddling and enabling
00:03:05 His parents want him to blame Jenn more?
00:08:11 His trial is delayed
00:09:45 His and Jenn's vehicle traveled to where Madeline's body was found
00:19:00 Stephan went to the dumpster FIVE TIMES?
00:26:49 "Not exactly the Ritz" - Stephan's email to his dad
00:28:50 His needs to craft and use his hands satisfied?
00:36:20 Stephan receiving lots of books from his wishlist from his parents
00:40:09 Stephan complains about his jail cell
00:40:46 His dad says "sorry to hear about the hassle"
00:44:49 Stephan thinks he could go home?
00:53:49 Stephan described his fitness and look to his parents
00:56:33 He has hope and wants more candy
01:02:00 He asks for more commissary money
01:03:40 He brags about enjoying the books and what a "voracious" reader he is
01:06:35 His coffee "will be delivered"
01:19:42 Debrief and Outro
FULL CASE PLAYLIST FOR YOU: • Madeline Soto
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:50 Over-coddling and enabling
00:03:05 His parents want him to blame Jenn more?
00:08:11 His trial is delayed
00:09:45 His and Jenn's vehicle traveled to where Madeline's body was found
00:19:00 Stephan went to the dumpster FIVE TIMES?
00:26:49 "Not exactly the Ritz" - Stephan's email to his dad
00:28:50 His needs to craft and use his hands satisfied?
00:36:20 Stephan receiving lots of books from his wishlist from his parents
00:40:09 Stephan complains about his jail cell
00:40:46 His dad says "sorry to hear about the hassle"
00:44:49 Stephan thinks he could go home?
00:53:49 Stephan described his fitness and look to his parents
00:56:33 He has hope and wants more candy
01:02:00 He asks for more commissary money
01:03:40 He brags about enjoying the books and what a "voracious" reader he is
01:06:35 His coffee "will be delivered"
01:19:42 Debrief and Outro
FULL CASE PLAYLIST FOR YOU: ruclips.net/p/PL0cYrgj38mhp8jbDI-QRMLrcFMxL-BTLJ
Replay crew. Thank you Gisela. He sounds like an only child, have you told us if he has any siblings? I know it doesn't really matter and won't bring Madeline back. He's so sick, and clearly a master manipulator. Also, parents are docking pup's tails? They might be sick too.
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HEY! I already heard the news about this from another channel, BUT . .. . I just KNEW you were really going to give this one an AWESOME rant, which I can't WAIT to hear! lol - Susan Burns
ACTUALLY, the idea someone in the chat came up with about buying out the Commissary at the jail all the candies, crackers, etc. is a FANTASTIC idea! If we were ALL to get together, how could we purchase these items to give to OTHER inmates at the jail, whom I'm SURE would be IMMENSELY appreciated by them. Could we ask them to just distribute them to other inmates or would we actually have to have the names, etc. I wonder how that would work. Anyone agree? Let's DO THIS . .. .. - Susan Burns
@@henmaidstaleno siblings
Of course his parents blame her. Has their precious son ever been responsible for anything he did in his life?
This is all coming from a man that never SHOWERED?! 🤢
I reckon whoever he’s with, he frames himself as a victim, and talks shit about how terrible everyone in his life who aren’t here are.
I know someone with a similar victim mentality, unfortunately :(
Of course not! Their baby boy is perfect 😒
They probably want him to throw her under the bus to do a plea deal. Save their little boy from the death sentence.
I didn't hear anything that they said that meant he's NOT responsible- just that, in their opinion, Jenn is responsible TOO. Did I miss something?
You lose the presumption of innocence when you record your crimes on video
I totally agree am watching from australia no death penalty here but totally agree when there is so much proof there is no doubt at all of innocence
Oh, I know that’s what cracks me up. It’s like they’re all just completely ignoring an entire truth that no matter what he will go to jail for so…. 😂
Very true
@@mirgrantYes, that's some elephant in the room 😢
Great point!
Theyre acting like he's a kid off at college sending him care packages. Disgusting.
When my son was in the penitentiary family was not allowed to send anything other than letters and pictures
Yes! I thought the same exact thing!
They are all sickos!😤
Agree. I thought they were sending him off to camp the way they interacted with him. They all act like he's ten.
So well said.
@joanbaczek2575 they shouldn't be with the horrible charges he's facing even though he's not convicted yet! The parents are in denial that they raised a Monster!!
Can’t wait till the parents see 5 years worth of photos - sick p!g
His parents probably won’t see those photos. Only the jury and lawyers … I guess it depends on the witnesses. But yea his shitty mom should have to see what a golden boy she raised. Arrest all of them, they’re all guilty of NOT protecting that baby girl.
They know, they don't care. It's acceptable to them
Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Maybe his parents already know.
They will not be in court when they show those pixs
That animal doesn’t even show to court 🤦🏻♂️😳
Parents are probably pedos too
I hate that he is in isolation. I want him to be scared every minute that someone is going to harm him (or worse). He doesn’t deserve protection
This.
But also, I want to see him face his charges. After he has been convicted and hopefully talked about Jens involvement, that's when I don't care if he gets some inmate justice.
We have an 8th amendment, he's a scumbag. Do you want that happening to an innocent person?
All of the worst child offenders are PROTECTED.
Dispel the “prison justice” myth immediately.
They are living comfortably in prison and that’s why these dudes categorically GAIN weight & reoffend= pure comfort.
If he gets the DP, he will still be in isolation away from the Gen Pop. But someone will get to him, you can pretty much count on it.
I think they have to do it for now so he’s available for trial
Can you imagine how the prison staff despises him
Hopefully they’ll ’accidentally’ let him into gen pop to find himself a spork.
Jail staff don't give a darn, one way or another. They're there to do a job, nothing more. Believe me, I know from personal experience.
Remember how nice the Sherriff was that did his transport? Ridiculous
@@bonniekellyromeo9073 The sheriff was nice to him only to try to get him to talk.
@@vegskater1741 he was driving him to the jail, not interrogating him. He talked to him about music and bs like that.
Remember when SS told the cops that he cares for his “elderly” parents?
That sounds like a lie too, based on how ABLE they are in taking care of their oversized toddler while he’s in jail.
FaceTime that’s what I was thinking the way that he described them in the interview was he was helping them to do things to wrap up at the end of their life. These people are obviously very capable of driving around using technology taking care of multiple animals so was he planning on killing them? Were they next?
@@Thepublicaccount wow. good insight. This is a real danger with these deviant, predatory adult sons who have no plan for their own life. They are so entitled but they know that they have no resources and their only path to financial security is to murder their parents/mother.
He asks about the dog everytime but never asks how his parents are.
And, & told the cops how much he hates the poodles, too. Smh at all his comments to mom about those precious pups...
So there was another 13-year-old girl killed in Orange County, Fl. by a Haitian immigrant. She was S/A'd and stabbed to death on July 4th in an apartment complex. She died en route to the hospital. Her name was Rose Dieujuste and the assailant had previous incidents with the law. I am so disgusted with men doing this to young children. there seems to be no fear of their consequences. It's a shame things can't be taken into our own hands. It is sad and disgusting for young female teens in this world who can't even walk around in their own apartment complex and be young.
Immigrant or illegal- there’s a difference
@@joanbaczek2575you sound bright 😂 …what’s the difference? Their skin tone?? 😏
@@FabiolaMacabrewe have legal immigrants
It is MEN
actually your respond sounds even more dumb, but on a different level
The fact that he had a hook up with his co worker and kept talking about Maddie, says it all. Pos
I don't think he'll find anyone to swap Pokémon cards in prison
Lmao 😅 😂
Or anyone else who has as much candy allowance at the commissary 😂 deviant spoiled brat baby ! 🤢
Oh yeah? He'll find out if he drops the soap
He could always become a pen pal with Duh-tell Brooks 😒
His father is worried more about the comfort and commissary, than he is about his son being a murderer.
His parents don’t blame him for killing Madeline. It’s JennSoto’s fault! Remember!
I’m sure he’s very very worried about this. As he stated in the email it’s a matter of life and death.
@@lisajeter9511 That kind of attitude is exactly why their so turned out to be a disgusting child rapist Monster! Uggh!!
@@sweetsongstress7398😂😅😂😅
I love how he talks as if he will have a chance at ever getting out..... In a pine box, maybe....😂
Parents seem like Brian Laundries parents..your child can do know wrong even when the facts are slapping you in the face.
This psycopath talks of the tomigotchis with such importance probably because it is all he will have left to remember Maddie. Too bad death penalty is coming
Exactly like the laundries
He's disgusting
Reminds me like Chris Watts family
I think the mother was somewhat part of the outcome but, he was the abuser. The mother was an enabler
I don't believe that the public knows how involved Jen was, time will tell. 💔
Right and stupid to trust him or any other any other man around her poor child😢😢
@@stellaallbright4750true but we will see. That still doesn't excuse the hell he made of this child's
Life...since she was only 8 years old!!!
My soon to be ex mother in law is just like this. Her son ran off on me and our child, for drugs and another woman… his mom said “I left him no choice” because I wouldn’t put up with any of it. He was studying to be a pastor when I met him…… lied about his drug use, and realize he’s a con artist, sociopath.
ALL their mothers are like this. Disgusting.
Yes, Mt ex bf's parents blamed me for not putting up with him getting wasted and almost burning our house down when he'd nod out with a cigarette. I "nagged too much."
I have 3 boys.... 2 teenage and one pre teen..... They all know if they do something illegal, Im gonna be the first person to call the cops!! Coddling does nothing but makes them think they can do anything and expect to get away with it!! No way!! Hold your children accountable!!
Stern's is the type that tells bad stories to all the different people he knows about the other people like he's always the victim.
It’s hard to believe the parents can even remotely think that his actions could be blamed on someone else. He’s a grown man who committed SA for years on a little girl, then murdered her, yet the parents are still coddling him as their son who can do no wrong.
I wonder what he has told his parents? Definitely not the truth. He is manipulating them. He makes me sick, and his parents aren't too far from that either. He makes me sick. Why did he take Jenn's car in the middle of the night and go back to the dumping ground? Was he already trying to set her up?
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When Sterns was younger, his roommate found child p0rn on his computer as he was cleaning it out for him. Stern's mother paid off the guy to keep quiet about this. Did she forget that she technically committed a crime by doing so? Poor Maddie would be alive if that family, especially his mother, had any sense of decency.
I wonder how the roommate feels now.
@@AllisonChains He did an interview and tried to justify his actions by saying he was young and broke.
The roommate is vile for not reporting him to police.
I wonder if SS was abused as a child, and the mom knew about it and thays why she protects him still.
@alabaster193 No excuse. He's short on integrity.
Replay watcher here! His parents are in complete denial! It is a shame that it has come down to this! Thank you for all of your hard work, G! Justice for Madeline!
Yes Justice for Maddie Soto!!!❤❤
So they’re not disgusted and sickened by what he did to a child, good God😡
Comfort matters to psychopaths and their disturbing families, who is the victim here? Not Maddie, just ask the Sterns and their monster.
This is disgusting, people/parents need to disown their children if they’re any sort of sexual offender predator, how disgusting for these parents .
Agree! But I also would want to wait before severing ties. For me I would want answers. Maybe still having some contact would make them feel safe to divulge information?
@@kimdracula8229 that’s true . Definitely . Wow 🤯
They probably demons too
I have told my children, there are limits to my support. If they choose to harm anyone for any reason other than self defense, I will not have their backs.
@@jennyjenjen9180 My thought, as well. Mom is an enabler (think along the lines of Roberta Laundrie, Brian Laundrie's mother, who let him get away with his narcissistic behavior). I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Sterns' father is also a sexual predator. It has a tendency to run in the family.
My blood is boiling!! 😡😡 Over these emails!
What are his parents talking about
"All he different partners"
Did the 🤮pics go back 8 years she's only turned 13yo and how would they know about Jens previous relationships?
Unless Stern's told them garbage about her so they feel sorry for him.
I think you're right, I BET Stephan has been spinning crap about Jen and everyone else in his life to make himself a victim.
Not saying Jen is innocent, there's some shady stuff with her which I can't wait to find out, but I definitely think Stephan is full of 🐂💩
Probably..he spouts crap constantly 💩🚽.
Right!! She shouldn’t judge others partners when her son was SA’ing an 8 yr old…insanity!!
Jen doesn't look like a hustler, like she's reeling in all the big fish. That's part of why men like this gravitate towards women like Jen to access their children. We don't know yet just how involved Jen was in the abuse and exploitation of Maddie.
Now you know why Stephan turned out the way he did, mommas boy, the golden child who can do nothing wrong....always someone else's fault.
Brian Laundrie vibes
He was just another poodle
Exactly!!!
@Terry-lh8cn yep!
@@johnmorgun9961uh huh...
I can not be more disgusted by this family, except by Chris Watts family and Brian Laundries family. Protecting their psyco sons is disturbing.
So common someone needs to write a book about that particular psychopathy!!!
@@Juke582seriously how many women are going to die bc of this disturbing family dynamic
They never allowed this monster to grow up.
That's a really accurate assessment of the situation
They share the blame.
The fact that some ppl ACTUALLY believe he is covering for Jenn and that his mom’s words are fact😅… did ppl forget how much this guy lies and manipulates? He’s such a selfish monster (literally took an innocent girls life and body 🤮) so ppl actually think he’d cover for anyone??? He only cares about his needs and himself. If she was responsible or involved directly in any way he would 100% already thrown her under the bus. He is manipulating his parents… Get real ppl! 😅.
P.s. I LOVE the snark in this video 😂
I do not understand parents who support their sons, when overwhelming evidence supports their guilt. If one of my sons did this, all contact would be cut off and they would be disowned. Perhaps parents like these are WHY their sons are monsters....
Parents don't want to believe their child did something bad, despite evidence. I would turn a family member in if I thought they harmed someone especially a child!
Thanks you Gisela, replay crew. Peace
Put him in jails main pop and tell them what he is accused of. Then his day will not go well.
Oh, that day is coming! He'll be lucky to live four years.
I’m sure the other inmates already know what he’s there for! There just waiting to catch him out on the yard one day!
That's not right on any level.
Oh believe me, the entire prison knows he is there and probably what cell he is in!
It’s sad to say that his kind are almost always in PC (protective custody) they usually keep their kind together. It’s unfortunate.
His parents are delusional. SS is the most selfish person alive. Except for JS. He would've ratted her out immediately if he could get something from it. That's not to say I think JS is innocent either. She also enabled SS so that she could remain in the relationship
Perfect point!
IF, IF, i got a email from my parents.
It would be to tell me they will not be accepting charges for phone calls and that i was dead to them.
Yep. I can't fathom acting this way as a parent.
For real… my mom (rip) don’t do anything to embarrass family and family name, if you fall in the hands of cops, I can’t help you! We ALL brothers AND me, grew up knowing this.
Exactly! I know parents whose daughter and boyfriend severely neglected three kids under three. They were jailed and their daughter called them to bail her out. That did not happen. When she got out, they moved residence and raised her kids without their daughter and her boyfriend. No visitation rights.
@@audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713 that’s how it should be.
I love the question his pops asked “is there any other mind games or crosswords or anything like that you’d like?….” LOOOL yeah he def knows a thing or two about mind games alright. JFC
And how tf do these idiot parents not realize the irony of ordering him a book called “Prey” ….who knows what it’s about but Christ, is that what he really needs?? I’d send him a Bible in Spanish and tell him to get bent.
Lol that's crazy he said it like that 😅
Right before you said “It makes one nauseous” I said out loud to myself “This literally makes me nauseous”.
Thanks for being the absolute best u-tube channel for prompt and reliable information!! Your accent is wonderful,no need to worry how well you pronounce. 🌹
I’ve worked with criminals for over 30 years and I always say “if you don’t hold your kid accountable table then have fun visiting them in prison. Case in point!!!
It’s also interesting to me how little he and his parents care about each other. They never follow up with each other about hard topics. They all appear to compete for attention. Very dysfunctional
When he was a kid and got in trouble I bet he would blame a "friend" but be like "I can't tell you who" because there was no friend. It was him.
For sure and his parents just believed him instead of realizing their child is a sociopath
I can’t be the only one nauseous 🤮 such sickness!!! Thanks again G ❤
As far as I’m concerned, he can be trading his bussy for coffee and candy! 🤬🤬🤬
His mom seems like Chris Watts mom. Crazy
Parents remind me of Cindy Watts in her jail calls to Chris. Blaming Shannan for murdering her grandchildren and making sure he had all the little luxuries. Made me sick.
It sounds like everytime Stephan got in trouble he blamed “friends,” then told his parents he wouldn’t “tell” on them because he was such a good friend. Problem is, it was him all along and his parents fell for it and still think he’s the golden one. 🙄
I just cannot believe these mothers. I love your detailed information and your snark. Love Grizzly true crime ❤️!
And the origami visual aid! 😆
HE IS GUILTY!
"Bro, Death Row is probably how things will go" - You're right but it made me laugh out loud.
It would NOT surprise me if we find out that Stephan’s parents both ‘messed with’ him while he was growing up. There is a very strange dynamic between the three of them.
First he killed her spirit. Then he took her life.
This is so tragic 😢my heart sank with the thought 💔 of how much pain she had to live with. 😢her mother should also be held accountable for her death. RIP sweetheart...
"Not your fault"... A parents denial. Must be hard to accept your son is a monster
It acts like it’s just living a small life in a freaking cafe. ‘I need my two cups of coffee every day and books…lots of 📚. Oh and check on my toys for me.’ 🤮🙄
And send me more money.
you're right, he's trapped in a quiet cafe, on a budget but still.
Well, poor Maddie will never be able to see the palm trees blowing in the wind, or the blue sky ever again either, because she was murdered at age 13. This creep is lower than low.
😡😡😡⚖️⚖️⚖️Justice for Madeline⚖️⚖️⚖️
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You can say it like no one else Gisela, your snark is wonderful!! It’s the only way to listen to these conversations 😂does he really think he’ll get out??🤯😂
I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty but he literally had videos of him abusing maddy...slam dunk case
They have video of him moving her dead body from the passenger seat to the trunk. Lock him up & throw away the key if you ask me.
@CSE1619 agree! He don't even need a trial. All the video proof is all there
@CSE1619 I didn't know they had video of him moving her body though damn! What more proof would anyone need. None. It's all there.
I couldnt support a son like that
Nope, no way!
OMG if my son had done this the last thing I would do is make sure he gets his toys and books , I would wash my hands of him
Toys! How old is this idiot?
Im not astonished by his parents behavior. Here in Florida some parents are very ignorants and normilize bad conducts because they they are not bad or think their kids do no harm. Check these parents because they could have bodies in their closets.
You are absolutely amazing! Thank you for reading the court documents no matter how many pages 🙌 😊
Jails and prisons used to have libraries or at least a “bookmobile” type wheeled cart for books for inmates.
They still do but it’s evident his using self wants “specialized” books, like serious fantasy world and making toys like he still reliving the toys he made with Maddie, what a sick Ffffffff!!!!😮😮😮
@@calibling Ya they def have some books already in there he just wants his own and mommy is happy to send him whatever he wants
He's asking for several hundreds of US$ for books. Whose paying for his lawyers? Florida citizens or his parents?
@@sashageorge9262 I'm curious to know the answer
He's gonna need his own library soon. Maybe he trades them after he's read them for commissary
I think he's in isolation
❤ You are a legend G!! ❤ The worst "family" on Earth omg! 😢Just waking up 8am here... with a cuppa watching the reply!
“My cheekbones are sticking out so much they could cut you.”
Can’t roll my eyes hard enough 🙄😡
My biggest thoughts and analyzing this creature is stemming from this interaction.
What was going on his childhood? These actions by parents, could be guilt...either they SA him or knew who did and are overcompensating for this.
This is a common reaction to a child( grown)that's been abused.
OR
They are so deep in denial they can't fathom the idea their child can do such horrible acts, so they treat him as if he's innocent.
I can’t wait for his trial to start so he can explain the pictures of his phone.
I blame his parents mostly because they raised him… Creeps 😢
I'm guessing you have no children?
They can’t face the guilt their son is a monster because they see him as extension of themselves. In their minds to believe he’s a monster means they have to believe they are monsters. And depending on his upbringing and environment that could be true too
Just when you think Sterns can't possibly be more reprehensible and disgusting, he proves you wrong. He's concerned with his toys and I wonder if he's worried about the loss of his favorite child grooming paraphernalia in the pathetic hope he gets released. No remorse at all.I find his family self-absorbed, small-minded, and insufferable. I really don't think I can stomach learning anymore about the innermost workings of one of the most deserving objects of prison justice I've ever seen.
Well said! This creep is unreal! His parents worse!
He is preparing himself for when he enter general population. Prisons have a different ethic and people could offer pritection for this kind of things.
If my son did what he did, I would be blaming him and disgusted by him
Hello G and all you lovely Grizzlies! I missed Live, been on vacation. Nice to be back.
He wasn’t smart enough to throw away his phone was he? What a FOOL!
Are his parents paying for his lawyers?
IF court appointed, no.
He's innocent till proven guilty even though they have all that evidence on his phone.
They can only force him into court when he's been found guilty.
I don't like it but that's how it is.
He knows he's been busted and that's why he's hiding in his cell.
Wherever he goes, inmates will know who he is.
The emails are disgusting. Parents EXCUSING what their son did??? They are just as awful as he is.
This keeps happening with sick delusional parents! Unreal!
You be you Gisela that is why we love this channel because you not faking you the real deal❤❤❤
Thank you Gisela! I love 💗 your channel & you so much!! Please dear God, Justice for Madeline! This “baby boy” is such a sinful, spoiled creep! Your humerous snarky jokes about him are the Best. 🙏👍🏼💯🥰😘
Love your channel!! Thank you for all the hard work you do to keep up in the loop .
OMg, Bahahaaa ~ Giesla, you are cracking me up. I love the snarkyness and the facial expressions. You are not only brilliantly smart, but you are so entertaining at times. Love all that you are as a creator and a genuine good person. Thank you for all your hard work. You are appreciated.
I have a huge problem with prisoners getting books, tablets, T. V.., commissary money, anything entertaining. If you give your kids a 10 minute time out, do you give them entertainment and snacks?
I agree with you…especially with endless supply from his parents.
Bored prisoners will find a way to combat boredom. Trust me it's best they have something and it would be cruel not to give them something. Trust me, prison is still horrible even with books n tv. With tablets they cannot access wifi so they can't get on social media or browse. They are for music, emails and photos they receive.
Jail isn't a 10 minute time out. That's not a relevant analogy, especially if you spend years in there just waiting for your trial to start. Also, commissary isn't just used for "fun" stuff. It's also so they can buy necessities like higher quality hygiene items.
Why does it bother you? There are three reasons for removing people from "free" society. Punishment/Retribution, Rehabilitation and Public Safety.....Irrespective of how "comfortable" the family makes it for incarcerated persons- how does that alter the "effectiveness" in achieving it's purpose?
@longlegs7881 who cares if it's cruel
You told everyone not to think anything negative about reading the same books as this killer, rightfully so, BUT I do have some pride that I’m not reading any of the books he has chosen. 😂😂😂
Wow his parents act like he did nothing....I'm sorry but if my child did that too another child I would not be supporting him in any way in jail....of course i would still love him but I would not be supporting him nor making him comfortable
These parents... Wow. I can't imagine how I would feel if my child did something like this but I do know I wouldn't be enabling them. He's obviously done a number on them. Thanks for covering this G. Your snark is so needed to make this bareable
If his parent's blame him they would be guilty of raising a monster or not being good parents. IMO That's psychopathic thinking. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility or show concern for anyone but yourself. Im not saying she's not involved or shouldn't be charged. Im saying the apple didn't fall far from the tree here. 🤔🙄
Good point. If mom is a narcissist then image is everything.
Family of narcissistic people
So, the parents are blaming Jen for letting Stephan around her daughter. If she hadn't have let him be around each other then he wouldn't have done what he did? DISGUSTING PARENTS!!!
I agree with you on all of this. Thanks for covering this. 🎉
Rewatcher here. My snarky pants are freshly back from the dry cleaners and ready for some more snark.
You make me laugh with your expression I know you want to call him all the names under the sun he is in for a rude awakening Thanku for all you do from Ireland
Mom blaming Jen....she is in total denial. Remember this is the same Mom who paid off Stern's roommate to keep quiet her perverted son's computer files. Remember, Stern's has years of manipulating and lying to his mother.... his first victim. As Mom says, don't take the blame like you did for others??? Sterns has never taken blame for anything. I'm sure he told his Mom how Jen wanted him to molest Madeline, along with who else knows all the lies he's told his parents. That woman created this Psychopath... if she believes that he committed these acts then she has to accept that she created this sadistic psychopath.
I believe Jen is guilty of being naive, totally brainwashed by Sterns and trusted him 100%, so much so she allowed him to sleep with her daughter.
I believe Jen would have been arrested by now if she was involved, and then a plea deal offered for her testimony. This case brings to mind the Kelsey Barreth case in Colorado. Patrick Frazee tried to get his girlfriend, Krystal Lee to kill Kelsey, but she couldn't do it. He then had Krystal clean up the crime scene when he did the job himself. Krystal was arrested, then they began to work on a plea deal if she testified. I feel, if they had anything on Jen, she would have been arrested by now.
I completely agree, it blows my mind that I’ve read so many comments (in other videos from other creators who are pushing this narrative) that sterns’ moms words mean anything or are factual. It’s super clear to me that he’s lying to them 🤦♀️ to save face and even seem heroic, because he is taking the blame for HER, what a hero and gentleman! (Sarcasm) it’s incredible. And you make such a good point, it’s obvious this has happened before where he does something and blames others for it , but he is “covering” for them, ok 👍 😅.
@@Katydid1she at least lied to the cops , imo just repeating the bullcrap he told her. & She was absent and neglectful.
I totally agree..
Where is Jenn?
She was certainly guilty of. child Neglect & Child endangerment. But everything we think she should have known or seen. I really don’t believe she did. She trusted every word the Monster fed her on a daily basis!
He will always be isolated. The first time he goes in the main pop, he will be popped?
As a mom I would never stop loving my child but I would not condone his behavior or make him comfortable in prison. I would be heartbroken forever and ever! I would pray he would ask for forgiveness!
Same! I would still love my child but I would not be supporting that nor would I help make him more comfortable in prison.
@@katiedenney7866 gross
Sounds like you would send him money out of some sick love?
@Juke582 no...I said I WOULD NOT support my child if he did something like that...how do you get I would send him money out of me saying that? Lol wow.
Same. I have 3 sons I believe are growing up to be decent humans. But I TOLD ALL 3... YOU HURT A WOMAN, CHILD OR MAN INTENTIONALLY. I WOULD LOVE YOU AS YOU ARE MY CHILD. BUT I WILL DISOWN YOU. I WILL CUT ALL CONTACT KNOWING IT WILL BREAK MY HEART. I WILL NOT FORGIVE NOR FORGET WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
Love your hair tied back 💜💙💜
I love G’s snarky videos!!
He is a grown man, they treat him like a child. What the heck...
Wow. Talk about problem parents! They don’t see how HE was to blame for abusing for 5 years! and MURDERING that child. He makes me so sick. And now his parents do to.
I've just got as far as the Warhammer miniatures ... oh my God - he was such a man child!! Unbelievable.
Sounds like a big kid!!!
@@misswales9229 kids don't play Warhammer because that stuff is expensive. Most people that play Warhammer, X-Wing or other miniature games like that are 30-50 year olds. Its called a hobby, everybody has them.
He wants to appear child like..it gives him cover..
@@Cincy_John in my family, all the older teen boys had warhammer etc. as their main hobby. They also played the games in the shops etc. all their friends had it, too. We are not rich, but they saved up / X-mas presents etc. It was really popular amongst the kids in my area around 10-15 years ago.
I do understand what you are saying though. In general, it is expensive and not for all youngsters!
The Tomagachi’s are what gets me! Probably another way to prey on young girls…..IF kids these days are even into them….but we had them when I was younger! I’m 41! I totally understand hobbies. Collecting things. But there is something about him that is definitely “man-child” like in the most unappealing and unattractive way. He’s like a whiny baby. Instead of being a grown up he was mooching off of his parents and on again/off again, weird girlfriend and shopping for toys all day and making crafts. Maddie herself even said that he sits in their house all day and eats all of their food. Kids are definitely more observant than a lot of adults think but it is pretty bad for a teen to pick up on his laziness. He is worthless. There has got to be something Jen sees in him or so much more to this whole dysfunctional relationship. I could not put up with that. Everything else aside about him, the lack of ambition alone is gross.
My mom continues to support and send money to my dad who was convicted of continued (3 years) SA of my daughter (his granddaughter). At the beginning of that hell, she was wanting to bail him out. She burned incriminating journals and deleted emails, texts, etc off my dad’s devices (post sentencing). She used to talk about how bad he was getting treated. Long story short, I cut her out of my life.
Sick parents of monsters don’t surprise me! Monsters come from dysfunctional parents anyway 💯%
Stephen is so sorry about the hassle and dad will instruct mom. Just a few thoughts. 1. He and dad don't seem to think mom is capable of much ie...PLEASE mansplain it to us silly, little girls. 2. Stephan having a hobby to keep his hands busy has been a big worry of mine. OH.....Stephan keeping his hands busy is why he's facing DP. 3. How does his deep consideration of the value of his toys compare to the value of Maddies worth?. 4. The situation of Ted Bundys mom and the pie. No matter how many times i hear of that, my heart aches for her. She didnt excuse Ted. His crimes literally broke a piece of her. 😢 I ask this with no sarcasm or being gross....i really wonder....does Stephan feel the same terror and dread when his head hits the pillow, the way Maddie's must have. I have 2 adult sons and 2 tiny grandsons. I wish i was confident that i would love them regardless. One thing LieTecia and Stephan have in common is appearently they are being starved. We saw at Dr. Tecias trial that she was absolutely not starving. Sounds like Mommy and Daddy take care of Stevie ❤. Gross. Regardless, as i said....2 sons and 2 tiny grandsons. I hope i would have the grace to love unconditionally. It would be hard. I do know what i would hope to do, through the victim advocate, whatever i could to help the victim heal. I would NOT coddle the abuser. Son, brother, sister, father etc. It a choice. I suppose i COULD coddle. I WONT! 🐻
What's a shame is that Maddie has a biological father sending child support for her; yet lives 1000 miles away. Had he only known. :(
I’m sorry I can’t find it in my heart to give him any credit. He was cheating on his GF when Madeline was conceived. And even after she was born he still chose to married the Gf and not live and be a part of his daughter’s life. He had a choice to live near Madeline or away from her. He chose the Later! I believe I read she only went to visit her Dad ONCE in 13 years so how close could he be with her? I just can’t give him any Kudos, he failed his daughter in the Womb!
Known what? No one forced him to live 1000 miles away …
@@lisajeter9511He got to visit with his daughter just not as often because of the distance. He did keep in touch with her almost daily by phone though...
@@sweetsongstress7398known how incapable Jen was in making good choices about having strange men around her young disabled daughter!! Sheesh!!
@@sweetsongstress7398 Maybe his job was the reason for living so far away. What does that matter?
You sound like you're a family member or close friend of the Stern family since you chose to blame Everything on Maddie's parents... Are you Stephen's Other??