Sony A6700 Three Months Later... Not My Cup Of Tea
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- I've been using my Sony A6700 for more than three months in a lot of shooting scenarios and... It's not for me.
Great camera, but not for me.
Let's find out why in my video
Official Link for the camera:
electronics.sony.com/imaging/...
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00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Autofocus
03:38 - Image Quality
06:09 - Video
08:21 - Body
11:11 - Why I Am Selling It
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Video Recorded with the following gear:
Camera: Fujifilm X-H2s
Lens: Viltrox 27mm F1.2
Microphone: Rode VideoMic Go II
Various lights 
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Objectively, the Sony is the better overall system, but if Fuji inspires you to get out there and shoot more, stick with it. I recently picked up a Nikon Zf and am LOVING it! It's the camera that Fuji should have made, but sadly never did.
Fuji 4 life
I'm curious to try that camera, although I don't really need full frame. But I'll do my best to try it, it made me curious for sure
It gets you and it's hard to let go
canon!
I would love to get a ZF with the Sony 40mm F2.5 and use the aperture ring.
So the only reasons are viewfinder/lcd/lack of joystick, which is understandable, even though it seems Sony and Fuji has the same size viewfinder. Would these stop others using Sony APS-c? Maybe not. Always try things out and make your own decisions!
That's exactly my point
and!!!! It doesn't look "retro" or "in". To each their own but I've never looked at the camera in my hand and felt inspired. I look through my eyes or the viewfinder and find inspiration. It's why the X100V/VI is so "popular". Trend. Just saying. Again. To each their own...
Thank you for the videos on the a6700. I appreciate your down to earth and practical approach to discussing equipment. Ive been looking into getting an apsc camera to complement my a9 for when I need a more portable wildlife kit. Ive been tempted to get a fuji camera but in the end I think it makes more sense for me to commit to 1 lens system, even with its flaws. Ive ordered a a6700 with the 70-350mm.
And you made the best choice. If you're invested in Sony, if you've found your center of gravity there, the A6700 is not going to disappoint you. You'll really love it
Hope you truly enjoy it, and how do you compare it to Fujifilm xs20?
The Sony is a better camera from a spec and autofocus/video performance standpoint... But the x-s20 is a much more enjoyable camera to use
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography More enjoyable how exactly? Even worse EVF and bulky, heavy Fuji zooms makes that quite the opposite for me. Same with menu system that is on par with 4 year old Sony models.
Good video Luca (really), have a great weekend.
Thanks!
Thanks for another great video! I’m convinced I need to test out the XH2 or XH2s. I love my XT4 but the autofocus is frustrating since I photograph animals a lot. I think this pushed me towards those two Fujis instead of the a6700!
If you have the chance, try both. The autofocus is still better in Sony, and if you're willing to sell your X-T4 for that reason only, the Sony is better. It all depends on what you value the most
What can you say about build quality of xs20 in comparison of a6700? Seen some negative feedback about XS20 build quality… really like the camera though, would like to get one.
I didn't really have anything to complain about that camera. I pushed a video a few months ago on the X-s20, you can watch it to know my thoughts on the camera.
Xs20 is definitely much cheaper looking and feeling on the hands. Also the buttons and joystick feels so much flimzy that it takes the enjoyment of ut
between this and X-S20 wich i should buy for photography and video?
i like sooc film sims on fuji but iwant good handheld video
how do you find autofocus XS20 vs A6700?
Autofocus is definitely better in the Sony, that's without any doubt. In general they are both great cameras, the Sony's being a bit complete as a hybrid... however, shooting Fuji makes the process more fun, this is something that may make more difference than technical specs.
With the original sony kit lens:-
Sony E PZ 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS Lens (Black)
Sony E 55-210mm f/4.5-6.3 OSS Lens
How good are those lens for low light ?
Ofc am coming from a 1" sensor camera at 2.8 apt which kinda sux at low light...
Will i see big improvement ?
55-210 is trash, dont bother byuing it. Only if you need good reach at very low price. There is no good telephoto for apsc with constant aperture, so lots of people use Tamron 70-180 or Sony 70-200 f4 second hand.
16-50 is ok for compactness, but I recommend sigma 18-50 because this way you would see biiig difference with 1 inch camera. Sigma 18-50 is gorgeous compact lens. With 16-50 I think you would be dissapointed.
I am talking about mostly about video. And for video variable aperture is a no go! Constant aperture eliminates much of headache.
Also consider wide angle prime. Best one for now is Viltrox 13mm 1.4. It is way much better than Sony 11 1.8. Because sony one is not 1.8 factually. More like 2.2 which is too dark and also is veeery cheap built
@@dzheyd9609 big difference between f4 and f4.5 ?! 🤨🤨
@@dronetheworld4k67 big difference in image quality. Image quality is not only f number.
@@dzheyd9609 am not sure I'll be able to afford those lenses, but my concern was shooting for basketball games indoors well let and soccer matches with decent lighting at night, u think those lenses are good enough professionally shooting or no way around it I gotta invest in better ones ? Tha k you...
For what you need it seems the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and the Tamron 70-180 f2.8 seem to be the only "affordable" combination.
Unfortunately for sport indoor you need an f2.8 lens otherwise the shutter speed and/or the ISO will be pushed too much
So, to summarize from a straight out of camera photo. The Sony 6700 is clinical and precise, and the Fuji’s are soft and warm? Perhaps there are better adjectives here? Other than that, the Fuji is more pleasing to dial in I take it. This said, from a purely technical side, I would put up with the ergonomic short comings as if I wanted a more clinical precise shot, product shots for instance, I would have a harder time sharpening a soft warm shot vs having it the other way around. Transversely getting the same warm and soft style the Fuji profiles have would be easier in post. I think you can get Fuji LUTs and use them with the Sony I think? I need to check that actually.
I don't know if there's any Fuji luts for Sony, I'm sure someone has tried to replicate those.
Your summarization is spot on, as long as with soft you mean from a look perspective and not a sharpness protective
i agree that its hard to find a bad camera in 2024. i was just watching a big documentary on youtube and it was in 480p, and still had million views. ive seen multiple 1080p documentary and the camera quality isnt great but people enjoy it and no one complained about the camera quality. even mr beast has many parts of his videos using canon g7x or phone. anyone at this stage can just go for anyone of these cameras. a6700 is a good camera just like fuji xs, canon r series, panasonic s5ii etc. it would depend on what the beginner is doing mainly, for long video id recommend fx30 and s5ii. for photos any of these are good. feel also is good, but personally im a fan of just any camera brand. i like em all.
i personally use canon r10, r6ii, zv1.
Oh believe me, I would own and try every camera and lens if I could! That's what you call passion
Hi Luca! Very good video, thank you! I shoot both Fuji and Sony (And lumix :-D) For me personally, Fuji and Sony share the same "mental space". I don't shoot profesionally by the way. My problem is, I like both systems. I want to get rid of one of them, but I find they complement each other. In one side, I really love the full frame look, and I really prefer a full frame system to play with vintage glass. And I shoot a lot with vintage glass. In the other hand, for semi-profesional usage, I prefer my fuji, the pictures that you get out of the camera, without any retouch, are just perfect, and the film simulations, for me, are really a pleasure to use. And I have my small lumix that I really enjoy for street photography :-D I'm thinking that I'll keep everything and I'll stop overthinking 😀
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. If you can afford keeping everything, why not? It may be a reason to get out more and take more pictures
"It's hard to find a bad camera in 2024." I say this to a lot of people and it's very true. These days I think people need to go hands on at a store or something or rent and pick their camera that way. If you like holding it and it makes you want to shoot then that's the camera that you buy. I don't even like holding or looking through Sony cameras after owing them for a few years and getting out of that system. I'm Nikon and Fuji.
Sometimes we get lost in the quest to get more than we really need
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography I think sometimes we get caught up in hype. It is what it is. First hand experience is very important for this stuff.
Before purchasing u have to decide which camera best all Camera cons and prons if u go higher end Camera u have to pay extra
That is always true
I’m going from a6400 to XT5. I’m not a fan of Sony dynamic range at all. I also want to try Nikon Z6II
I'd like to try the z6iii, once they launch it
Most Fujifilm APSC shooters, who experiment with other systems invariable return to that system. Fuji is just fun!
You are right, but it's not just fun, it delivers also professionally
i will stick with Sony any day!!! Thanks for your info but you do you, while I do me. hehe. I have the Sony A6700 and I am loving it!! You mean Sony isn't Fuji level? For real?
Enjoy your Sony gear, don't worry about my needs 😉
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography hahaha !!! 😂 do you ! We do Sony . Hopefully you won’t do another content titled “ I was wrong about Sony “.
@@JoshConnectMedia but if you watched the video you know I'm not dismissing Sony's quality at all. Nowadays there are no bad cameras, you pick the one that suits your needs the most.
It's as simple as that. Each system has its strengths and flaws... What suits me doesn't necessarily suit you and vice versa
I have heard this sentiment over and over from photographers... that sony cameras are like a computer first and a camera second, and fujis are like a camera first and computer second which people find more "inspiring"... im a beginner photographer, and im buying my first camera soon, and have decided on the a6700 over the xs20, mainly because i LOVE computers and technology, and technology DOES inspire me... its always interesting to see other people's perspectives on things
I'm sure you're going to enjoy it, it's a great camera
agreed. have a Fuji XE4 and the auto focus is exteremely frustrating. so many missed shots. now supplementing with a A6700
I agree, the Fuji XS20 is the better camera and it’s even €200 cheaper. For me, Sony APSC is in a weird spot, because you don’t have Fullframe advantages but you also don’t have the Fuji rendering, style and lenses. Then the LCD and viewfinder is worse as well. If I were to give up Fuji for Sony, it’d be a compact Fullframe, but the ones that compare to the quality of the XS20 video features are in a whole different price category.
You're 100% right
I have Fujifilm gear, and it's very inspiring!
Definitely
Hi there. It is a nice video... but please tell me... what did you mean by saying the image quality is not fuji level? Also the colors... I shot fujifilm for over 6 years and I found the colors to be the worse, besides probably lumix. Fuji shines for skin colors, but besides that I found ot to be too pale and muted for landscape photography. What you did and did not like of fuji colors compared to sony's? And also other brands if you have experience. I can understand the inspiration part.
For my eyes, Sony colors are mostly duller than Fuji, and that is part of the inspiration aspect, because if I know I must edit everything to get to where I want... It's not fun. I will edit my best shots anyways, but it's not always about the best ones. It's also about those thousands of shots you share without editing because you don't need to. I have delivered plenty of work without editing as that was supposed to be quick and easy. And that's a great difference
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Ha ha - maybe we're looking at different cameras then... from all my cameras Fujifilm have the dullest and the most pale and non-saturated colors for landscape. I always have to edit the files to get closer to what I like. But I never use film simulations... maybe then it is like you say - the colors comes back to live. But just from the raw files.... mmm...no
If you use Fuji without the simulations... You're doing it wrong. Try to use the simulations (velvia for landscapes)... You'll see the difference even in the raw files. The editing software imports the simulation by default giving you a much better starting point.
Film simulations are the essence of shooting Fuji. If you don't, you're missing a lot of the fun and the quality
I used to shoot velveia on film... but with digital, I kind of prefer not to stick to those old looks. The film was different in any way, and the look for me cannot be replicated exactly... even considering the crop sensors of modern fuji cameras. But that's why we have all the variety of cameras and lenses.. to achieve our vision and enjoy doing it.
not sure why you didn't go FF for the Sony. That's where the real magic is. If you are happy with APSC then I would also stick with Fuji.
I don't really need full frame, and cost of full frame lenses is usually 2 times that of APSC. Also the lower tier full frame bodies can't really compare to something like the X-H2s especially.
I'm more than ok with IQ and performance I'm getting from my Fujis. I would love to have the same AF Sony has, but it doesn't change the final result for me too much
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Hmm.. yes some FF lenses will be more expensive, but others won't be. For example a Sony 85mm f1.8 will be less expensive than the Fuji 56mm f1.2 but will give you comparable image quality and bokeh. Also You can pick up the Sony A74 for less than £1800 here in the UK, how much is a new X-H2s go for?
@@domtomas1178 they're not the same though. The f1.2 Is still f1.2 when it comes to light gathering, and I doubt the 85 1.8 can be comparable with the quality of the 56mm. I bet the difference wouldn't be humongous, but there is still some.
As for the camera, autofocus aside, the a7IV is behind the X-H2s on everything else. Cropped 4k 60, no 4k 120, evident rolling shutter. I use those features often, and I could never go back
Coz he is yet another Fuji fanboy that despise anything thats not Fuji, especially Sony. Ive tested both X-S10 and X-S20 - hearing hes points why he prefers those cameras over Sony - Im 100% sure of it.
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography excepted light gathering is not everything is it. With clean ISO these days I don’t see the point. For background separation yes.
For all who think buying Fuji, I share my experience and my humble opinion for the xh2. It’s simple : if you want a good autofocus forget Fuji. Really a very big issue with it. Even when the camera have green box on subject , it is out of focus a vast majority of the time. Very frustrating. All the rest is very good with Fuji, but not autofocus .
except wide tracking doesnt work. the only thing that works is the small spot.
Where? Sony?
The timing of this video is uncanny… I just sold my a6700, 16-55, 70-350, and 11mm too LOL
I agree with everything you said… my thought was this camera system is SO PERFECT, it doesn’t make you work for the photo at all… and therefore you’re a little less proud of the photos you get. I also think the noise performance on Fuji is a bit better, or at least more pleasing to my eyes even though that’s subjective.
Absolutely an amazing camera, but I’ll stick with my hot mess, glitchy, but beautiful Fuji ☺️🤣
I am trying to decide between Sony and fuji. This video really helped. What kind of fuji do you have?
I was kinda in the same boat.. Honestly mostly wasn't happy with the lenses. Everything was too big or too boring, but then I tried a couple voigtlander lenses and they blew me away. Very different shooting experience but I'm loving the process and results
@@amarachibigelow8178 I have X-H2 and X-H2s, together with a lot of lenses
@@mrcojocaru very different choice. I'm not a vintage lens type of guy, but I get what you mean
Same here, although the new Fujis are way less messy and glitchy than before
Questa notizia mi rende felice mai più Sony apsc Finché non cambiano la forma del corpo ad esempio utilizzando quella della prima Alpha 7 1/2 che mi piaceva perché era molto sottile
Magari un giorno faranno una APSC di livello più alto, quello potrebbe cambiare quasi tutto. Il file fuji però non lo battono, almeno non adesso
whats next after sony...?
Nothing, I'll stick with Fuji
As soon as I saw it had the damn side hinged flippy, flappy rear screen then nah. Hate them.
That is a need, for many people
also check your lens
What do you mean?
i had the a6400 and the skin tones looks horrible
Things got much better with the newer cameras. Not on par with Fuji, but much much better
Nice camera…just doesn’t have the shooting experience that you would like. Fair enough…one reviewer said something similar; good results, but no soul.
Pretty much what I think. The "soul" thing may seem stupid and petty, but that's how I feel
the image quality from that Sony sensor is not that impressive.
It's not bad either. It's a good sensor, but doesn't make you scream with joy
It sucks at high ISO
Good for bignners
Bignners can usesfulll are not
The only thing to criticize in this camera is the shitty viewfinder, a common problem in today's modern cameras, and I am talking with authority, after using "ä few" in the last half century! www.youtube.com/@CarloFerraro
focus in your video is breathing so hard is hard to watch
That's the Viltrox 27mm. It's its only flaw.
Sell it to me….
Already gone!
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography 😪
Too bad , so sad , bye bye 😅
Bye bye