Next week is DARK FANTASY PART 2!!!!!!!!! In the mean time: I am teaching an online portrait painting (and drawing basics) class! You can tune in live to the class online or watch the recording just after its finished if you can't make it! You get to keep the recordings forever. You can get critique from me every week or for a lesser price just spectate the class. Signups just opened and spaces are limited! www.jaketaplin.art/classes
Gatekeeping art by disparaging tracing is asinine -- you speak as an authority but are evidently unaware that some of the most renowned artists who ever lived often traced full drawings. Ruebens, Michelangelo, Bouguereau, and Ingres were all known for preparatory drawings, in varying levels of detail, that would be transferred onto the canvas. As a matter of fact, Flandrin, the original artist of the painting in the video, was LITERALLY a student of Ingres. He closely adhered to the traditional French style, and he almost certainly made preparatory drawings and transferred them to canvas. At best you are stroking your own ego, and at worst you are discouraging others from art. Reader, don't focus on whether you trace, color pick, or draw your idea exactly right the very first time. Focus on one skill at a time, and focus on getting better. What matters is what you create, not handicapping yourself with some arbitrary set of rules.
@@mercenaries102 they made drawings....that they then transferred onto canvas and painted over. They made the drawings. Which is what I recommend for people to do here instead of tracing. Make a good drawing and then paint over it. Speaking of traditional french academic style, students were not allowed to paint before they had several years of experience drawing from the model using comparative measurement techniques. I'm not even sure what your disagreement is with me.
OMG I SAW YOU PAINTING IT IN VC, the fucking chances of me watching a video not only with your painting, BUT YOUR PAINTING BEING SENT TO THE NAUGHTY CORNER, best wishes though, like jake said it still looks really good, all the paintings ive seen you make are good
Even tho I personally wasnt critqued, the advice for not color picking hit hard but I needed to hear it. I struggle painting without doing so because I did alot of studies where Id colorpick to get the colors more accurate. Ive since stopped because I learned these studies arent meant to be perfectly accurate to the ref. It's so I learn the process. Some of my best studies imo are ones where I pushed the colors to the extreme. Thanks for the banger videos that get me even more interested in art
And some folks are so darn touchy now. I went to a cannibal barbecue on a nearby remote Pacific Island. Showed up late. All I was given was a cold shoulder.
your brushstrokes look very calculated and kinda rigid rather than loose which is a dead giveaway that you're copying a painting. imagine drawing from life; no one is gonna judge your drawing based on how perfectly accurate some curves are. in that same vein, it's about letting loose and getting the general idea because true accuracy is really just the sum of its parts
i clarified for this person in my discord but just for everyone else to see - "sorry i didnt have the time for everyone so you were in the rapid fire round so you mostly got some memeing. I think what i said came from the painting feels like you put a lot of time and had to go back and forth on it a lot. making corrections and undoing things. I think the color was pretty good, where you can most improve is taking more time during your drawing stage really locking in your big proportions and shapes and your lights and darks before you even put any color on it" On that first tier of people i really wanted to emphasis the importance of setting yourself up properly and not skipping steps. if you want to make a great painting you have to make sure all the conditions are in your advantage. work big, make a great drawing and check the accuracy, separate the lights and darks cleanly. before any color goes down.
i didn’t get any notifications until now for any of this but thanks to everyone who replied, I thought the aim was to copy the painting for some reason so for future challenges I won’t do that:] thank you
Eh, I personally colour pick in order to isolate certain skills. I find it helps me understand things about colour so long as I . Right now I’m trying to figure out how shading works and general sketching and so I do a combination of greyscale and colour picking to learn.
20:00 I dont understand the critique here. You say they work hard, but they should stop and step back to do only one thing. But what actually is improvable here? I dont get the sense of this paining being bad in something particularly
he was basically saying the brushstrokes didn't feel natural or flowy, most likely because the person meticulously placed them as a result of directly copying the painting rather than blocking in the important bits and going from there
You say “passible” instead of “possible” and “drowing” instead of “drawing” but you say “ball” regularly. To me the o in possible and the a in drawing sound the same as the a in ball.
if we're talking short term then yeah but color mixing and the ability to draw figures intuitively are things that require genuine practice which you cannot obtain through such shortcuts. these things also contribute to the longevity of one's skill
yea he doesn't really go into detail on why. but color picking doesn't really leave room for you to be able to learn how to do it on your own - so you might have falling outs with color theory, learning how light works with color, etcetera. always try to do things on your own rather than directly coping off of something
because you're letting someone else make all the decisions. Color is REALLY important, and by just color picking someone else's work you're not learning anything
I'll be honest, I don't like the fact he calls certain choices 'right' or 'wrong'. There is no right or wrong in art - there are just subjective opinions and projecting them on others like they are objective *is* the wrong thing. Nobody will learn from that, it's just cutting their creativity off. And yes, maybe if someone wants to simply do realism and the masters and shit like that, it's important to remember the anatomy. But in the end, if you're not enjoying yourself while doing it - it's not *art*. Draw slow, draw fast, draw however the fuck you want as long as you're doing what you love.
There is a lot of things that are right and wrong in art, and it is not supposed to cut off anyone's creativity but to end the mediocrity of their works by applying knowledge of the plastic arts that derive from various sciences And all that stuff about if you don't have fun it's not art is just dumb af, then Michelangelo's paintings are not art, art is not a tik tok video about cats, the purpose of art was never to be fun
@@F6Design_ Ah, you seem to misunderstand. Yes, craftsmanship in the Middle Ages was considered art - it was the definition of art, but nowadays, I find it very shallow. Of course, the definition of art is very subjective, but I find looking at art as a simple skill, like driving a car or cutting down a tree rather insulting. By your definition, printers are artists, because they can recreate other's paintings perfectly. By your definition, AI art is art, because it can at times give somewhat convincing pictures; not to mention what it will become in a few more years. But they are, of course, not art. The thing they lack is the human soul which, I'm pretty sure, is way more important in art than skill.
Hey! Just lettin’ you know that Jake has a video saying something half-addressing your concern. ruclips.net/user/shortsGUOY0Trxy68?si=tNgGhsKFHoWUyUD3 Honestly, there is no right or wrong but in my opinion but classical paintings like this there is a way you should turn towards. Since classical paintings are supposed to be realistic and similar to the tangible, actual thing there is going to be rights and wrongs in ANATOMY, LIGHT/SHADOWS, and COLORING. I feel like what makes the art Jake is talking about is the subtle nuances, the brush strokes done by hand and with care, and the technique and romance of it. Classical painters noticed everything like that and put it into a realistic painting. Even realism without creativity has such beautiful aspects of it since you can feel how the artist put so much time and effort into it and their stokes combined with the way everything just mixes together is what makes it art and fun to me. I was just yapping about how much I love painting so don’t let this take up too much of your mind.
yo but what if youre just coping? how can you prove he is tracing? sometimes i spend 5 hours or so on the sketch and people just say i trace because they dont understand how long it really takes for accuracy
Gatekeeping art by disparaging tracing is asinine -- you speak as an authority but are evidently unaware that some of the most renowned artists who ever lived often traced full drawings. Ruebens, Michelangelo, Bouguereau, and Ingres were all known for preparatory drawings, in varying levels of detail, that would be transferred onto the canvas. As a matter of fact, Flandrin, the original artist of the painting in the video, was LITERALLY a student of Ingres. He closely adhered to the traditional French style, and he almost certainly made preparatory drawings and transferred them to canvas. At best you are stroking your own ego, and at worst you are discouraging others from art. Reader, don't focus on whether you trace, color pick, or draw your idea exactly right the very first time. Focus on one skill at a time, and focus on getting better. What matters is what you create, not handicapping yourself with some arbitrary set of rules.
@orions2908 sure, but are all the professional artists using tools to make art more efficiently not making art? The limits of what are and aren't pieces of art have been pushed so far that even our comments may be art, so why set arbitrary rules for its creation?
okayy so the tracing guy reminded me of this yt channel, they have awesome art but it's so obviously traced, it's @ByronDixArt, I asked them about it on their chappell roan drawing video and they denied it but I SWEAR ITS TRACED, like it's literally impossible for it to be completely hand drawn. can anyone back me up on this bc I feel like I'm crazy-
@@ey_is_me777 omg tysm cause I never see anyone in the comments talking about it and the creator denies it 😭😭 And they must've deleted the chapel video
Next week is DARK FANTASY PART 2!!!!!!!!!
In the mean time: I am teaching an online portrait painting (and drawing basics) class! You can tune in live to the class online or watch the recording just after its finished if you can't make it! You get to keep the recordings forever. You can get critique from me every week or for a lesser price just spectate the class. Signups just opened and spaces are limited!
www.jaketaplin.art/classes
RAHHHH DARK FANTASY🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️🐺🐺🐺🐸💨🐸🌞🌞
YAAAAAAAY
Jake are you gonna turn the dress to impress into a video too?!
Gatekeeping art by disparaging tracing is asinine -- you speak as an authority but are evidently unaware that some of the most renowned artists who ever lived often traced full drawings. Ruebens, Michelangelo, Bouguereau, and Ingres were all known for preparatory drawings, in varying levels of detail, that would be transferred onto the canvas. As a matter of fact, Flandrin, the original artist of the painting in the video, was LITERALLY a student of Ingres. He closely adhered to the traditional French style, and he almost certainly made preparatory drawings and transferred them to canvas. At best you are stroking your own ego, and at worst you are discouraging others from art. Reader, don't focus on whether you trace, color pick, or draw your idea exactly right the very first time. Focus on one skill at a time, and focus on getting better. What matters is what you create, not handicapping yourself with some arbitrary set of rules.
@@mercenaries102 they made drawings....that they then transferred onto canvas and painted over. They made the drawings. Which is what I recommend for people to do here instead of tracing. Make a good drawing and then paint over it. Speaking of traditional french academic style, students were not allowed to paint before they had several years of experience drawing from the model using comparative measurement techniques. I'm not even sure what your disagreement is with me.
"Some of you have a resting heartbeat of a person being hunted for sport" is the best insult I've ever heard
i felt targeted
I ask for forgiveness dear Jake, I swear to our lord and saviour that i shall change my ways and enter my redeption arc.
- The guy color picking guy 😔
😭😭😭
You clearly spent a long time on it so just put that same time n effort into the new skill
i already called the police
@@carespoochie1738 hah very funny. Huh what was th- oh my god officer please don't sho- *falls on the floor dead*
OMG I SAW YOU PAINTING IT IN VC, the fucking chances of me watching a video not only with your painting, BUT YOUR PAINTING BEING SENT TO THE NAUGHTY CORNER, best wishes though, like jake said it still looks really good, all the paintings ive seen you make are good
The fact that he was able to cut down 6 hours of stream to 1 hour is insane
I say it's kinda sane, rational even
@@gentledud01 LMAO
Cause he cut out the Israeli segment
@@Luh_katkatWhich
@@Luh_katkat huh? wdym
Even tho I personally wasnt critqued, the advice for not color picking hit hard but I needed to hear it. I struggle painting without doing so because I did alot of studies where Id colorpick to get the colors more accurate. Ive since stopped because I learned these studies arent meant to be perfectly accurate to the ref. It's so I learn the process. Some of my best studies imo are ones where I pushed the colors to the extreme. Thanks for the banger videos that get me even more interested in art
And some folks are so darn touchy now. I went to a cannibal barbecue on a nearby remote Pacific Island. Showed up late. All I was given was a cold shoulder.
only a cold shoulder? you've gotta be kidney me.
😭😭😭
This video is sick I just finished watching it I’m nothing like y’all
I gotta get up the pace 🔥🔥
watching in 50x speed💪💪💪
chat is he lying or not??
Damn
@@lucidmimeit’s true he watched it on 5x speed
Other people: drawing
Jake: drawring 🤠
12:58 i was zoning out, but was brought straight back to attention by the amazing comment being made here !!!
The bottom tier people are literally 10 times the artists I'll ever be lol
Ikr 💀😭
The only thing between you and the bottom tier is time invested. Practice and you'll be surprised how quickly you can improve
watching jake for like a month gave me more information and progress than any other artist on this platform ever gave me
Thank you for giving a critique on my drawing. Important lessons learned.🙏
22:10 dont ever buy no weed from the gas station
I havent laughed this hard at a youtube video in a loooong time. Top tier content right here
19:18 i was actually very relaxed whilst painting this but i think i get the general idea youre trying to get across lmao
edit: nvm i have no idea
maybe he was talking about the confidence in your brushstrokes (?
your brushstrokes look very calculated and kinda rigid rather than loose which is a dead giveaway that you're copying a painting. imagine drawing from life; no one is gonna judge your drawing based on how perfectly accurate some curves are. in that same vein, it's about letting loose and getting the general idea because true accuracy is really just the sum of its parts
i clarified for this person in my discord but just for everyone else to see - "sorry i didnt have the time for everyone so you were in the rapid fire round so you mostly got some memeing. I think what i said came from the painting feels like you put a lot of time and had to go back and forth on it a lot. making corrections and undoing things. I think the color was pretty good, where you can most improve is taking more time during your drawing stage really locking in your big proportions and shapes and your lights and darks before you even put any color on it"
On that first tier of people i really wanted to emphasis the importance of setting yourself up properly and not skipping steps. if you want to make a great painting you have to make sure all the conditions are in your advantage. work big, make a great drawing and check the accuracy, separate the lights and darks cleanly. before any color goes down.
i didn’t get any notifications until now for any of this but thanks to everyone who replied, I thought the aim was to copy the painting for some reason so for future challenges I won’t do that:] thank you
felt so called out by this one
i enjoyed this greatly but i wish you would've critiqued your own too
13:29 jake is very demure and mindful when it comes to art..☝🏽
Love the vid it would be cool if u encouraged ppl to upload the speedpaint also to show the process (and that its not ai)
Your chat is wild, these guy need to stop with the long bottom leaf if you know what I mean. You know, that Old Toby.
Bbl addict
😂😂😂😂. Fortunately I DO know what you mean
I know it's not your thing but I would love to see your take on painting a miniature
Recently started on your content, fine art and Terraria/Stardew music I love u
i'm studying at the russian academic art school rn and i have to say that this guy has actually really good sense in teaching academics
I shallath eat this art my lord 👑🙇
The beeping at the start had me thinking I was schizophrenic 😭
Could you please do a short on techniques for drawing hands?
As someone who is colorblind, I color pick everything. I won't be stopped.
understandable, art is supposed to be enjoyable and if colorpicking makes it enjoyable for you, then go wild my colorblind friend :)
@@wrightcember shit sucks. Eyeballs all kinds of whack
Color picking is like a wheelchair but for colorblind people
you could make a little layer with a labelled palette to color pick from idk
@@bajsbrev4651 yeah I do a bunch of different things. Usually have to just google a color and color drop it lol
You should do a podcast, Jake. I'd definitely tune in to listen to your smooth voice all day!
Bro I thought the title was saying your “discord’s master” not “master paintings”
This comment made me realize what he meant
Ah yes sea shanty 2, impeccable taste
12:57 I was playing this in the background and I suddenly hear this
Your's is missing the neck lace 🤯
It doesn't even look like her :/
@@treymoment it looks exactly like her tj
@@cypdead who's tj
@@cypdead actually I don't even remember making this comment
ISFP maybe. And a marvelous one
Thinks for turning the stream into a vid, i couldnt watch the whole stream and i felt like i missed out heavily
Hey man. Didn't see all your video's but I like what you are doing. Do you use a mirror to check for mistakes? I hope so.
I’m devastated I can’t join the server since it’s age restricted and I’m 17 :(
Seems like such a fun communtiy
17:16 wizard casts fireball at you POV
Day one of asking Jake to make a fundamentals video
took me years to break the colorpick trace habit. only picked it up as i picked up digital art
i swear the back ground music is from terraria
bro is like 70% brazilian. obrigato
Was there for the whole stream. Here for the edited VOD.
You're using terraria music in the background omggg i thought i had terraria open
35:30 looking like someone familiar. Someone who ruled Germany
Wait I wanna join 😨😨😨😨
You should do that again pls
king strikes again
Hey i spent like 20 minutes on that damn blurry far away ill lit portrait. I expected to be in the top tier not the very bottom!
another day, another W
35:32 reminds of an Austrian artist
jake chan(✿^‿^)
Who is the painter of the original?
I wish the discord was 16+ instead of 18+ dang
JAKE SAMAA 😍😫
there are far too many mid ass social media artist who dispense advice and critique art
Did you know that an elephant’s tail hair is stronger than steel?
You probably didn’t
Because I just made that up
It isn’t true
Haha
THAT IS NOT TRUEE!!!!!! WHAT. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU?
did you know the webs of a black widow are stronger than steel?
Spreading misinformation for fun
Did you know that your brain cells are stronger than steel
Because they aren't elastic enough to form bonds
I dunno if its just me or not, but I can't join ur discord channel for some reason, It just says "smth is wrong"😢
Is this Terraria music I hear
Was that a jynxi reference 😭😭
Eh, I personally colour pick in order to isolate certain skills. I find it helps me understand things about colour so long as I . Right now I’m trying to figure out how shading works and general sketching and so I do a combination of greyscale and colour picking to learn.
I love you Jake.
this stream was yummy
You look like Denisdaily if he did art instead of playing roblox
Legitimately no idea if you were joking or actually polyamorous :D (no judgement if so!)
I got kicked from the discord and idk why😭🙏
I havent kicked anyone in a minute but it did get age restricted by discord
@@JakeDontDraw I guess the age restriction thing makes sense but that is odd
@@JakeDontDraw don’t worry it’s something iOS has done, nothing I can do bout it🦧
Who else watched all 6 hours of the live version
Dayum I was there for 4 hrs
ME!!!
Why I can't join your discord server? ):
the link is in the description wdym
@@wrightcember it says link is wrong or something, it's just not working):
i love being early hi jake
hi
The discord link says expired
discord link is expired
nice
i cant join the server
It has age restricted, and the account must be 18+ I think
lol
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20:00 I dont understand the critique here. You say they work hard, but they should stop and step back to do only one thing. But what actually is improvable here? I dont get the sense of this paining being bad in something particularly
i guess what he meant to say was that the painting looked a little all over the place? his advice didnt really make a lot of sense to me either
he was basically saying the brushstrokes didn't feel natural or flowy, most likely because the person meticulously placed them as a result of directly copying the painting rather than blocking in the important bits and going from there
JACKDONTDRAW DROP ANOTHER VIDEO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
6 hours 🙏
I am boba
If you live in Pennsylvania get out and vote 💙💙💙💙
WHY AM I EARLYYY😭
Same bestie
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You say “passible” instead of “possible” and “drowing” instead of “drawing” but you say “ball” regularly. To me the o in possible and the a in drawing sound the same as the a in ball.
easy (on skibidi)
He is 6'7 and has 10 lambos :)
Please play passpartout there is 5-7 ending and play passpartout 2 please
Discord server is age restricted 💔💔
not gonna lie, aint nothing wrong with tracing and colour picking for learning
if we're talking short term then yeah but color mixing and the ability to draw figures intuitively are things that require genuine practice which you cannot obtain through such shortcuts. these things also contribute to the longevity of one's skill
Why is colour picking bad??
yea he doesn't really go into detail on why. but color picking doesn't really leave room for you to be able to learn how to do it on your own - so you might have falling outs with color theory, learning how light works with color, etcetera.
always try to do things on your own rather than directly coping off of something
because you're letting someone else make all the decisions. Color is REALLY important, and by just color picking someone else's work you're not learning anything
I'll be honest, I don't like the fact he calls certain choices 'right' or 'wrong'. There is no right or wrong in art - there are just subjective opinions and projecting them on others like they are objective *is* the wrong thing. Nobody will learn from that, it's just cutting their creativity off. And yes, maybe if someone wants to simply do realism and the masters and shit like that, it's important to remember the anatomy. But in the end, if you're not enjoying yourself while doing it - it's not *art*. Draw slow, draw fast, draw however the fuck you want as long as you're doing what you love.
people are allowed to make art the way they please, but i think context is important.
Relative to the original painting I think there's certainly right and wrong, at least in the scope of copying it
There is a lot of things that are right and wrong in art, and it is not supposed to cut off anyone's creativity but to end the mediocrity of their works by applying knowledge of the plastic arts that derive from various sciences
And all that stuff about if you don't have fun it's not art is just dumb af, then Michelangelo's paintings are not art, art is not a tik tok video about cats, the purpose of art was never to be fun
@@F6Design_
Ah, you seem to misunderstand. Yes, craftsmanship in the Middle Ages was considered art - it was the definition of art, but nowadays, I find it very shallow. Of course, the definition of art is very subjective, but I find looking at art as a simple skill, like driving a car or cutting down a tree rather insulting. By your definition, printers are artists, because they can recreate other's paintings perfectly. By your definition, AI art is art, because it can at times give somewhat convincing pictures; not to mention what it will become in a few more years. But they are, of course, not art. The thing they lack is the human soul which, I'm pretty sure, is way more important in art than skill.
Hey! Just lettin’ you know that Jake has a video saying something half-addressing your concern. ruclips.net/user/shortsGUOY0Trxy68?si=tNgGhsKFHoWUyUD3 Honestly, there is no right or wrong but in my opinion but classical paintings like this there is a way you should turn towards. Since classical paintings are supposed to be realistic and similar to the tangible, actual thing there is going to be rights and wrongs in ANATOMY, LIGHT/SHADOWS, and COLORING. I feel like what makes the art Jake is talking about is the subtle nuances, the brush strokes done by hand and with care, and the technique and romance of it. Classical painters noticed everything like that and put it into a realistic painting. Even realism without creativity has such beautiful aspects of it since you can feel how the artist put so much time and effort into it and their stokes combined with the way everything just mixes together is what makes it art and fun to me. I was just yapping about how much I love painting so don’t let this take up too much of your mind.
Yo bro can you pin for no reason at all if you do I will learn the art of painting
yo but what if youre just coping? how can you prove he is tracing? sometimes i spend 5 hours or so on the sketch and people just say i trace because they dont understand how long it really takes for accuracy
Gatekeeping art by disparaging tracing is asinine -- you speak as an authority but are evidently unaware that some of the most renowned artists who ever lived often traced full drawings. Ruebens, Michelangelo, Bouguereau, and Ingres were all known for preparatory drawings, in varying levels of detail, that would be transferred onto the canvas. As a matter of fact, Flandrin, the original artist of the painting in the video, was LITERALLY a student of Ingres. He closely adhered to the traditional French style, and he almost certainly made preparatory drawings and transferred them to canvas. At best you are stroking your own ego, and at worst you are discouraging others from art. Reader, don't focus on whether you trace, color pick, or draw your idea exactly right the very first time. Focus on one skill at a time, and focus on getting better. What matters is what you create, not handicapping yourself with some arbitrary set of rules.
They made the prepatory drawings by hand...nothing wrong with transferring after you've drawn
tracing something you made yourself and tracing someone else's work are two completely different situations
@orions2908 sure, but are all the professional artists using tools to make art more efficiently not making art? The limits of what are and aren't pieces of art have been pushed so far that even our comments may be art, so why set arbitrary rules for its creation?
okayy so the tracing guy reminded me of this yt channel, they have awesome art but it's so obviously traced, it's @ByronDixArt, I asked them about it on their chappell roan drawing video and they denied it but I SWEAR ITS TRACED, like it's literally impossible for it to be completely hand drawn. can anyone back me up on this bc I feel like I'm crazy-
yeah i just checked their channel - no chapel roan vid, but it's VERY obvious that they are tracing.
@@ey_is_me777 omg tysm cause I never see anyone in the comments talking about it and the creator denies it 😭😭
And they must've deleted the chapel video
Please play passpartout there is 5-7 ending and play passpartout 2 please
Please play passpartout there is 5-7 ending and play passpartout 2 please