The Cheap Chinese Carbon Bike that Backfired

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2021
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    My website: www.camnicholls.com
    Trilogy Cycles: trilogycycles.com.au/
    Carbon Steed: carbonsteed.com.au/
    This video is about the cheap Chinese carbon bike I had to send back. Part of what I do here, you could call cycling journalism. When I received the Winspace bike, it was unfamiliar, so we took it through a process to assess it's credentials. The intention with this project though, was never to go to this degree of checking, but journalism is about investigating, and the journey that investigation takes you. So here you will see nothing but that journey, from an intended Chinese carbon road bike review, to being one that I am now sending back.
    #Chinese #carbon #bike

Комментарии • 934

  • @CamNicholls
    @CamNicholls  2 года назад +226

    I hope everyone is well out there. I wanted to make this video, in particular, for those people out there considering these cheaper alternative road bikes. The intention of this project was never to land where we have, but I truly believe it's an invaluable learning experience for me and many others out there. I would really encourage you to watch until the very end to appreciate the full picture. Cheers, Cam

  • @user-tq3ud9zi7w
    @user-tq3ud9zi7w 2 года назад +94

    Hey Cam, I have owned 3 bike shops and sold thousands of bikes. I have seen several of the big brands carbon frame's with imperfections and terrible finishing. FYI.

  • @albertosanchez6994
    @albertosanchez6994 2 года назад +21

    I have the same model savadeck colorado. I bought it from amazon. Over 800 miles so far. Only tape bar no good quality. Very stable and firm when you speed over 30 mph. Great deal for the price. Hydraulic brakes. So far not regret at all. 28mm tires 50mm carbon fiber rings. 105 group set. This is a quarter price of $ 9000 brands bike.

  • @Matt28NJ
    @Matt28NJ 2 года назад +310

    Man, I wish I had this fella as my mechanic. He's thorough.

  • @randorecumbent
    @randorecumbent 2 года назад +192

    Yes, thank you for this. When I'm asked about "affordable" bikes and unknown brands, this is the kind of thing that I usually think of and tell people not to waste their time with. That you've done the leg work so that others can learn from your experience is very valuable. Honestly in an age where we have inexpensive and automated machine tools, this should never happen on something as simple as a bicycle. It actually makes me angry that we have supply issues and there are people wasting resources by creating unusable parts and slapping them on substandard products that look good in pictures but are good for nothing else. The planet can't sustain this kind of waste. Manufacturers need to be more responsible. Make it fit for purpose or don't make it at all.

  • @chrisnaden
    @chrisnaden 2 года назад +50

    I own a Sava bike as well. I'm new to biking and bought a Sava herd 6.0. For me, my bike rides fine. I went to the bike shop and all that needed to be done was that the wheels needed to be trued and the gear needed to be tuned. The bike cost $1400 US, which is about $1900 dollars in Australia. I didn't have any issues with my bike. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @ploughmyfield
    @ploughmyfield 2 года назад +13

    This is Awesome. I like this article better than the high end stuff. It shows the potential problems of buying a new bike. So much experience in the guys you’ve gone to to look at the bike. They are the real hero’s here. Wow, it will be interesting to see what the follow up to this will be.

  • @sds1605
    @sds1605 2 года назад +6

    The best cycling RUclips channel there is. Keep up the good work mate!!

  • @XavierHS89
    @XavierHS89 2 года назад

    The honesty if your videos is very much appreciated, thanks for the great content! 👍👍

  • @ChinaCycling
    @ChinaCycling 2 года назад +246

    Fair dinkum with the honesty Cam. The only thing I wanna stress is never judge a bike / company by the country it comes from. (In the same way you should never judge a person based on their skin colour, gender, etc.) Every country has a mix of good stuff and absolute crap. Thanks to people like Cam for trying to help separate the trash from the treasure.

  • @KurtlesDude
    @KurtlesDude 2 года назад +5

    Aaron's quick assessments are so interesting, seems so experienced and knowledgeable

  • @Alastair510
    @Alastair510 2 года назад +3

    Excellent video.

  • @djjjjjjj887
    @djjjjjjj887 2 года назад +3

    Looking the part is one thing, being the part is another. Great video Cam! (Fingers crossed the supplier can work with the manufacturer to resolve/find another manufacturer)

  • @skg8268
    @skg8268 2 года назад +45

    The UT scan on the front fork appeared to show near surface viods/porosity and so no back wall signal was evident. This can be down to 2 reasons. 1) this type of part needs a very skilled laminator, to be able to manufacture a quality part. 2) the tooling required to lay up the carbon fibre for this part will be very expensive, even for China. If you have neither of the above time after time a substandard part will be produced. I learnt about carbon fibre in the aircraft industry over the last 30 years and finished my career as the Non-destructive Test team lead working on the Eurofighter Typhoon and F35 aircraft.

  • @CMgraffix
    @CMgraffix 2 года назад +3

    Nice share, good to see a good bike mechanic, sharing his knowledge, gives, some bike shops give some bad experiences due to their lack of knowledge, good to see them at work

  • @tonysantoro8802
    @tonysantoro8802 2 года назад +5

    Wow Cam thanks for your honesty and putting it out there. This will help people on all sides of the transaction you would think.

  • @alanscyclingadventures4945
    @alanscyclingadventures4945 2 года назад

    Another great video. I’ll definitely be sharing this with a couple of people I know, and maybe I’ll be able to spare them some heartache and get them to stick with established brands. Thanks again!

  • @Fudders
    @Fudders 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the info Cam.

  • @TC-hl1ws
    @TC-hl1ws 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention.

  • @stanleyling6116
    @stanleyling6116 2 года назад

    Thank for the upload.. It is indeed interesting to get different budget & bike brand for review. Highly appreciated.