Diablo 3 RoS: No Hatred Generator Demon Hunter Build (UPDATED) Torment Farming
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- In this Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls video I give a guide to my 'infinite hatred' Demon Hunter build that I use for farming Rifts on the Torment Difficulties. Using a setup like this allows you to forgo hatred generator skills so you can achieve higher average damage and more consistent cluster arrow spam. There are some gear requirements but nothing crazy like needing a full marauder's set or anything.
Skill Build:
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Gear Requirements:
Pride's Fall OR Cindercoat (Or 30%ish reduction)
At least 40% crit chance
500k+ DPS
5-6 Million Toughness, can get away with less.
Enhancing Items:
Captain Crimson's Set
Cindercoat+Pride's Fall
Reaper's Wraps
Magefist
Anything with Fire, Elite or Cluster Arrow Damage (Don't bother with Chakram damage).
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Thanks Ziggy for this liniar, structured and comprehensive guide. It's fun listening to you talking :-) You gave me some good imputs and make me believe DH's worth it playing again!
Cheers
I can't tell you how much this video helped. Thank you very much for posting it! (I'd love more videos on DHs...) Great work!
good thing they are fixing preparation, no more abusing it!
I am enjoying my DH more than ever with this build! I don't have the recommended Crit Chance or 500K dps but results are about the same. Thanks Ziggy
Thanks for this build ziggy. I got all your items; captains set, pride's fall, danettas and reapers wrap plus cindercoat. Can do 13 cluster arrows! Now just need a ring of granduer and stone of jordan
Great job on explaining your choice. Most others skip important parts.
Thanks for this build. This was the first video I watched from you and I like your voice and the build is awesome -> perfect. :D
You are not the only one ziggy. Been farming for Cinder coat for a hell of a long time with no luck! I think I spent over 10k of blood stones and still no luck on getting one.
Ziggy, with recent changes (and a sort of Pride's Fall nerf), I'd like to suggest trying your build with 5 Marauder + Cindercoat + RoRG. I was using the standard Elemental Arrows as suggested, but while great solo, they just weren't cutting it for group play. Then I tried out your Twin Chakrams (reminded when I saw someone using them) and the difference was HUGE. The sentries are filling up the screen with them. So until I can find a Kridershot and Rucksack, I'm using the same weaps as you atm, this is definitely the way to run Marauder imo. The dps is insane.
I, however, was still having hatred issues, in not being able to spam/use my Cluster Arrow. Only the Sentries were spamming it. So it was almost feeling more effective with my Entangling build (before trying out the Chakram at least). Upon remembering your build, I decided to review your video again. I see that the answer is the Preparation skill (which I considered useless before I had hatred issues ;P). Can't wait to try it out tonight, actually being able to spam Cluster Arrow along with my Sentries. Thx much.
Hey, loving your DH videos. I'm also making one but it's geared a little more towards being a glass cannon and less resource sustain. Having a ton of fun with it and thank you for the tips :)
pretty good, the only reason i've gave up on my DH is the resource generation, this gives me a bit of faith, maybe i'll give it a try later.. nice to know that such build at least exists..
AHAH wow caught this on reddit, we have almost the identical build. We just have different shoulders, bracers and I rock Krede's Flame where you have Kathos' Band.
I've been farming for the Cindercoat for so long and everyone seems to have it, haven't seen a single one and I netted a couple Marauder pieces. Even leveled a monk to use all my blood shards hoping for the Cindercoat ;_;
Demon hunter play has gotten so nice in recent times, Marauder's has such a cool bonus. We have 90 ping in Australia now so vault is much more responsive and reliable. Vengeance is a great skill that really opened up the no generator builds and the new passives are actually pretty useful; in the past there was no competition for those slots but now I'm always swapping things around. Loving ROS as a DH.
Awesome man, welcome to the channel and cool to hear my video was shared on reddit. Demon Hunter feels tons better now for sure, much more fun than stand still rapid fire bombardment that I was rocking end vanilla.
Another awesome video, thanks Ziggy. Love your thoroughness, love your excitement for the class.
Did you ever happen to play a Rogue in WoW? I have a feeling you'd have liked it.
Your videos are always top notch :)
this is actually pretty slick if your under geared for Torment 3 or greater.
After watching this I put frost arrow on my left click with cull the weak as a passive, seemed to work really well :o I'm having no luck on a cindercoat either :( about 9000 blood shards spent on chests and nothing so far -.- I have 60% resource cost reduction with 1mil DPS currently though, so I guess I can't complain. Just really want that cindercoat so I can swap my pride to an andy.
Good luck on your Cindercoat Ziggy! You're best bet is probably Rifts + Kadala. I got lucky after ~200-250 bloodshards spent on Kadala :)
tha's like 4-5 rifts on torment 1. It's really easy to get cindercoat and other targeted legendaries with the new updates.
i got a 20%fire 30% reduced on my mage and im using it on my dh (it has int but i dont give a shit) on my dh on shards i have only gotten cloaks
Super weird. I got the Cindercoat on my DH (yes, gambled on DH) in 250 blood shards. I've since used over 1000 blood shards, no legendary... (PS: I got a legendary cloak RIGHT after the cindercoat).
ThundersLeague I had to invest 8k shards for a cindercoat. Another 5k into 1H weapons and nothing green or orange has come out yet D:
Hey ZiggyD! nice vid! keep going!
I'm using almost the same build except chakrams for the time I play DH... but I'm struggling getting the pride's fall... did like 200-300 (realistic) runs and got nothing. But at least i found a 27xx dps natalyas crossbow and a awesome stone of jordan 19% firedmg and 30% elitepack-damage and CHC 6%.
And this little B**** Kadala gave me like 4 Blackthorns chest armors but no cindercoat. I btw recommend doing this gambling with a monk because the cloaks for DH are not longer in the roll.
I guess yesterday was my day because after spending over 300 blood stones I finally got my cinder coat! Stats are pretty sweet just need the 3 slots in it to make it perfect.
Be aware spamming cluster arrow destroyes the additional grenades when you use a new cluster arrow before the first one explodes
Thanks for this build, helped me out a lot. :)
I now got Prides fall, an almost perfect reaper's wraps (Low dex) and a 29% reduction cindercoat on my DH. Now I just need Danetta's Revenge and some more resource reduction and fire items :)
I'll say one thing...playing with a controller = MUCH better than using a mouse in keyboard. (*8 Hours straight of POE on the keyboard left my wrist bruised...8 hours of D3 on console just left my butt sore (haw haw).)
Although the PC version has a better interface and inventory management.
Thanks for another really informative vid. I'm still grinding for some decent pieces of gear (currently 730k dps but only just under 4m toughness), without much rng luck. I can do T1, no probs, but my clear rate is still too slow to make it worth the effort. I'll get there, it'll just take some luck and time. Besides, I don't want to be doing T6 a month after release. lol.
this build is awesome. thanks for sharing.
nice build! i learned a lot!
I've been working on a fire skill build with my crusader. I got really lucky with the frequent drops to add to it. The MVP of the build is the Gyrfalcon's foote (blessed shield costs zero wrath). So my build doesn't need wrath. I do 80% bonus to fire skills, and I have 50% CHC and around 410% CHD, so I hit mobs for 6.8mil crits on average with Blessed shield: Combust on the first hit. All it needs now is the shield that lets it bounce 4-6 more times. I could do 16% more from fire, but my SoJ didn't roll STR,CHC, and CHD. had to reroll to get CHC (with no CHD). Has 30% more to elites, but that ends up not being better than another of my standard rare quadfectas.
the most valuable player is an item? Interesting^^
p stands for piece.
Thanks for the video, it's completely changed how I play my DH. I don't have as much nice gear as you do but for now it's getting me through master way faster. I don't have RoS so instead of vengeance I'm using marked for death with the rune that gives you hatred when you hit the enemy. It works really well for bosses but do you think there's something better? Also, since I have the cinder coat and because my crit chance isn't so high (35%ish) I use trail of cinders with vault to lower resource cost. My hatred regen is over 7 per sec and my resource cost reduction is about 50%, so I'm not really running into hatred regeneration problems. Anyway, thanks again!
i have a windforce but i also have some bracers that increase by damage against targets that have been knocked back by 50%. add that with cull the week and some fire/cluster arrow damage and im critting for around 15-20 million with only 700k sheet dps.
You know something? I have the opposite problem, I have the Cindercoat, which is amazing, but that Act 3 man, bounties just don't wanna give me that helm.
I also have the plans for the Captain Crimson's set, have the legs and belt, salvaged the feet cause they rolled terrible stats and I plan on making it again after I get the Pride's Fall helm.
WHICH I also had the opposite problem with too, the Essence of the Twin Seas for Captain Crimson's set, I couldn't get the rare you farmed to spawn, yet I could get them out of Razermouth. Dat RNG man, dat RNG. xD
haaa this is just like my build, it is so much fun! I am using rapid fire withering fire instead of chakrams though. Do you know if all of the crits from rapid fire count with the discipline passive? might try chakrams!
Danetta set is rediculously fun, farming prides fall helm with that movement speed was an absolute breeze! still waiting on my own cindercoat and SoJ too.
They should unless the skill has a hidden proc coefficient that makes crits less likely to generate discipline. I imagine it works well apart from the lack of mobility.
One question, your build and advice are amazing, just want to ask , if you have cindercoat isnt it better to use the vault as fire skill to reduce its cost even more?(trail of cinders)
Not if you also have Danetta's set! The set bonus makes vault almost free and action shot crits a lot for nightstalker disc regeneration! If you don't have danettas though trail of cinders is a good choice.
I see! Thanks for answering! keep up the good work!
well..I'm not gonna copy your build but I think I got what I wanted, which is some new ideas. Pretty many DH nowadays seem to be using this Prides Fall Cost Reduction based build.. cant blame, its pretty fun :P
2nd day at 70 DH with bad fire+ gear from my barb, doing 15mil crits on bosses and 8-9mil crits on trash.
Hi!
I really like the alternative to multishot you are offering (never been a fan myself), but I have a question as to the statement that pride's fall is THE uncontested BiS head for dh. I mean,it is awesome. But dh is in a very awkward position as far itemization goes actually: as a dh, you WANT the 4 piece marauder bonus, that is just too good to pass on in a BiS slot. Thing is, bracers, chest, gloves and head are a no go because of... well, you know. But, well, then we can just stick three pieces in shoulders, legs and boots and get the royal ring? But then, things branch out: either you are content to stick to dannetas and it is all good, or you go calamity+nat's slayer and then... well +20disci, +7crit,+250dexare not things you pass up on easily. Jordan destroys nat's reflection so no question there... Only solution then is to stick a marauder hlem and nat legs, which effectively edge out pride's fall...
But honestly, if you are worrying about this kind of choice, you should already rip through high torment, so it is kind of a moot point ^^. I am curious, what do you think?
PS: I farm manglemaw when it was a thing following your vid for hours and never dropped a leg :'(. Only leg I got was when I accidentally smashed a pot... Fortunately is was a cindercoat, so it is all good :D
Yeah, if you have to drop Pride's for the marauders then I would do so. While I consider Pride's Fall to be BiS helmet the set bonus can trump it and if you have to chose between dropping cindercoat and pride's then I'd keep cindercoat any day. And like you said, it's kinda moot if you have all the set items you probably don't need to worry too much haha.
This won't work in 2.1, Preparation has changed to a 20 second cooldown instead of using discipline...
One thing I've been very on the fence about is my Andy's Helm. I consider it the BiS helm for DH but it rolls for IAS 100% of the time. If i have fire damage with crit on the helm should I reroll the IAS for Cluster Arrow damage? 7% IAS vs. 15% CA
Tips?
would using strafe with a fire rune (the one that throws out missiles as you go) as effective or useful? ive seen someone use it to kill malthael on t6 it seems to do really well with hatred regeneration and damage overall
You could probably just chuck strafe on this and it'd work but I'm planning on making a build more fully tailored to strafe pretty soon, just looking for the hexxing pants of mr yan! (also wouldnt mind the strafe 1H xbow)
ZiggyD Gaming i forgot to mention it would replace the chakram is that still better?
I can verify that using strafe works, but is not ideal in this build. I don't have a great DH build yet, but I do have the Danetta's set (one weapon is unfortunately not even level 70) and Pride's Fall, and I am able to survive Torment I quite easily even without Magefist or Cindercloak. The DPS is still too low for me to farm it effectively, though (I have 400k sheet damage, unbuffed).
In any case, I tested with just about every fire skill on DH to replace chakram (even testing the fire versions of Rain of Vengeance, just for giggles), and ZiggyD's setup is by far the best for sustainability. It takes a bit of practice to get good with chakram, but once you do you'll tear through trash mobs and I often forgot I even had cluster arrow because it was so much fun.
But this build does work with strafe. I just had to spend a lot more time vaulting to build up crits for more discipline, whereas with chakram I could maintain my resources almost indefinitely, even on Torment I with my crappy gear.
What is the best hatred regeneration for DH when u are starting out, like i am level 50 atm, so what is the best to use also when do you stop using hatred generator skills and start using another skill?
The answer to the latter question is pretty much when you can or when it's effective to do so. If you try it and cannot keep attacking and have to wait to regen then you're not ready.
There's not really a best hatred generator, they all fill different niches but Entangling Shot with the Cull the Weak Passive skill synergizes really well with Cluster Arrow.
How can he have 3 Hunting skills in the Action Bar skills? And how can he have Chakrams as primary and Cluster arrows as secondary? Do you need to become higher lvl to do this?
OPtions > gameplay > elective mode
Prepare for your builds to get a whole lot more interesting!
Elemental Arrow vs Chakram? U have to really be mindful of where you stand for Chakram. Whats your thoughts on just ele fire arrow?
Fire arrow doesnt really work as AoE, it's more of a Single Target CC. Lightning Arrow is an option but then it doesnt scale from fire.
i have a question that bothers me what is the goal when you get end game gear? i feel that progression is done when you get a full set.
How are you able to get 50% Resource Cost Reduction?
I have about 10% and I can't see where you get that much from.
Is it on your gear, or a special passive or Legendary effect?
so with Archery, does that stack? using 2 hand-crossbows increase the Crit chance by 10%?
I have a question. I have the Cindercoat but not Pride's Fall, but my problem is I run out of Discipline pretty quick. I noticed you have 60+ I only have 30 (Default amount) Do you aim for more discipline in gear or did you just happen to have it on your gear?
I didn't intentionally go for it but the additional disc is nice and will happen as a side effect of getting already good gear like Stone of Jordan and the Danetta's set.
Hey do u think Demon Hunters are now as good as Wizards with this build?? And I have only about 4 Mill Toughness but 50% crit and like 780k sheet dmg unbuffed, can i use this build ???
hey ZiggyD, quick question. I was using this build for some time, but with the change to Nightstalker (from crits = discipline to +4 hatred on primary skills), what passive would you recommend for a replacement. Ive found perfectionist to be a good spot for the reduction in disc cost and the survivability
Yeah perfectionist is probably the way to go if you want to emulate this style in the current patch :)
Hey Ziggy or anyone that might know the answer, why is having two 1Handed Crossbows better as opposed to like a 2H Crossbow or a Bow for this build? Thanks!
How do I get the captain crimsons trimmings? I have the other equipment you listed and my demon hunter is a killing machine and I'm not even at 70 yet
if we don't have pride's fall, what passive do you reccommend in place of awareness?
Tactical Advantage or pretty much anything else you like. It's a bit of a wildcard slot.
Hey ziggyd anytips for a replacement for the RoS skill cuz i play on console so i cant have the RoS skills
aren't you gonna do a let's play like you did with the Beta?
I've kind of done some similar content (melee DH and some commentaries) but yeah I haven't really thought to do another hardcore adventure mode. Is it something you think people would want to see? I could see running a new Demon Hunter could be interesting.
ZiggyD Gaming I've been checking RUclips every day since the game came out to see your let's play so there's a chance other people feel the same way I do. Personally I'd watch and enjoy every minute of it. The only concern I could have is that it might be a bit late to do a let's play given the amount of time the game has been out but you could try doing the first few ones and see how people respond to it? I hope you do :) cheers mate.
So i have ice climbers and harringtons belt, should i use pirates set instead?
Are you not recommending gloves of worship anymore for this build?
Nah not really, they are nice gloves in general but not specifically good for this build (just decent for all builds). Magefist is probably best in slot now if you can get a well rolled one.
ZiggyD Gaming Is a 15% fire damage 10% crit chance 574 dex magefist a pretty good roll?
So, now that Awareness no longer gives 100% dodge chance, what helmet do you suggest?
Andariels for Solo and Pride's Fall for groups.
So im trying the build, is there a bug with captain crimsons resource cost? it only seems to be giving me 6% rather than the full 10%?
How do you get the Danetta's spite ??
Does ballistics affect cluster arrow?
I have a ''experiment'' build that im working on atm. if it works out it maybe the best dh build in my opinion. would work with any dmg type. For details pm me :D
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Just a mistake I saw. A lot of people don't care, but there are enough that will notice something like this.
also, cindercoat hype!
thanks man!
I'm finding it so often that i can't replicate these builds everyone does as i can't get the same skill set up ie; i can't have vault preparation and companion all up as they are part of one skill set is this an add on or something to be able to allow that. bit of a noob question
Go into Options. Section Gamplay has a checkmark that says "Elective mode". Toggle that. Now you are able to adjust any skill anywhere.
i got cinder coat from gamblin with barb
maybe a stupid question, but how do i get rid of the 20 sec CD on my preperation?
nvm, it just changed last patch, this kinda wrecks the build
Can you make an update? Because awareness + prides fall doesn't work anymore and i have no idea what is best in slot in helmet :(
Andariel's Visage for Solo and Pride's Fall for group play.
ZiggyD Gaming i saw a build with marauder + sentrys dealing insane abouts of dmg is this build still up to date or would you change something because of the Patch?
Those sentry builds are designed for T6 once you have the full marauder's set - until then this build is pretty much the way to go! The only thing to maybe change is Chakram for Multishot suppresing fire.
What is your battlenet profile link?
So since preparation has a cooldown now, is this build still viable?
You can still make it work with cooldown reduction but I prefer just going back to entangling shot with cull the weak as a generator and then working into your 6p marauders set.
Awesome, thanks! :D
how do you get it so that your preparation can be used 3 times with out the cool down?
I believe the rune used to make the ability cost discipline to get hatred, but now it has a cooldown instead of secondary resource cost. No way to achieve this anymore.
ahh thanks for that man XD
i have rolled 7% attack speed on both of my danettas. Both have 700+ dex and 1500+ dps. should i roll the 7% attack speed into % damage for this build? Im not sure because normaly 7% is pretty good.
i would appreciate your help, thanks.
I would prioritize % damage over attack speed but you should weigh up the potential cost against the fact it's a minor point of optimization.
okay, thank you
i will try re-roll one or two times, maybe i get very lucky :)
Very interesting build but also very very NON failsafe for hardcore, no smokescreen ? i see this working perfectly untill you get in that bad situation like double elites with jailer/frozen/arcane/fast combo and then your dead
yo where did you get the cutout from?
Blizzard ANZ sent it to me randomly :D
ZiggyD Gaming lol my bud stole one from gamestop :P
is there any area wher i can farm better DH 1hand wapouns ? Got only a 2,4k 2 Hands... and this is so slow q.q but i cant finde good 1 hander.
What is the name of the area to farm "prides fall and Cindercoat :o ?
Act 3 bounty caches for Pride's Fall. 1Hers will just take time, it took me 3-4 days before I found one. You can gamble 1hers or farm Act V bounties for helltrapper to speed things up maybe.
to farm is better play bountys of normal or torment1+ ?
why you say no hatred generator you got prep and bat companion both hatred generators
lol after watching this i spended 50 blood shards on chest at kadala.. and i got cindercoat xd only need pride fall now :p
When are you coming back to poe?
I never left, did a Path of Exile stream today ;)
ZiggyD Gaming I need to pay more attention then;) lol
Could you give a gear link
Been trying to farm prides fall for 2 days zzz -.- impossible to get
HOLY SHIT, THIS GUY LOOKS LIKE STEVE GREENE, wow the similarities! O_O
Where can I farm those 2 cross bow ?
They are random world drops, no way to farm them beyond the usual increased legendary drop rate difficulties/rifts.
cool build not so different than the one im making
how do i get a pride's fall?
Act 3 bounty caches.
I have Cindercoat it needs nerfed it I hate it it's so OP every class is using it, want to use Marauders but it's just not good enough..
how is all your companions (from marauders complete set) dealing your crit damage with your crit chance not good enough? unless your gear needs to roll better. Also even if they did nerf it, the nerf would only apply to cindercoats found after the patch, and you'd still have the broken legacy one.
It's good but I can't burst as much though, I found another Cindercoat today these items don't seem very rare what they do Marauders Pets are one reason I want to use, but I feel weaker and I ran out of resources faster you got to remember 20% fire skills and 30% reduced resource to fire skills that's 50% efficiency from 1 item if you use fire.
yeah the single slot piece is one of the best in slot as long as you build around it.
Yes but I feel like i'm being forced to use Cindercoat because it's so good I dealing 30-34m crits when I use Marauders I get little more tanky with pets and passives/active but I hitting a road block at like 20-23m crits and running out of hatred faster that's a big drop off.
You'll always be "forced" to use a certain gear piece if dps is what you're focused on. Unless you find an upgrade (or a set bonus that becomes an upgrade), it's inevitable. That doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to be nerfed. There's always going to be a best in slot for dps, and that's what most players will gravitate towards. It all depends on the play style you choose with what you find, and what your focus is.
How the hell are you always critting?
Try kadala, got my cinder coat from her
2k+ shards in and still going ;)
i got two cindercoats in one day from her, I used DH to gamble.
Preparation H
reapers wrasps are easy to farm now? lol...with fire dmg dex crit and vit/loh? nope thats not what i experienced in the last 10 crafts.
Ranged Demon Hunter?!?!?! Noob
Melee DH = EU's worst kept secret
pshhhhhhht the americans can hear you
Rikoudu Sennin Murica =Barbarian.
LOL, how far can you go in Grift?
wizard is broken.
this suck...lol
How do I get the captain crimsons trimmings? I have the other equipment you listed and my demon hunter is a killing machine and I'm not even at 70 yet
Do certain legendary items only drop in certain acts?