brennan saying “no, and”
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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My mind exploded at this moment, so brilliant. Yay for brave choices
Misfits and Magic, Dimension 20, Dropout
Aabria Iyengar, Erika Ishii, Lou Wilson, Danielle Radford, Brennan Lee Mulligan
The line
“It’s in everyone’s best interest for me to not be like this”
Goes so emotionally hard I can’t explain, on top of the delivery 👌
Right there with 'I don't have that.'
Brennan had a chance to play an actual player character for the first time and he said oh actually I'm about to play the ONLY player character, sorry I can't hear you over your own weeping
*um, actually
I mean sometimes when two players are on a roll, you don't wanna interrupt
@@fluffydragon1525get in the comments!
@@Nictator42 I mean this scene specifically he is by himself at the nurses office so the players literally can't interrupt if they wanted to cause their characters aren't in the room lol
What?
1:11, It’s a relatively simple gesture, but I love that Aabria has her NPC hug Evan. As ridiculous and unhinged these campaigns get, there’s always a genuine emotional core to the story and characters amidst every hilarious moment.
Kelmp
It also hits me hard emotionally as someone just shuffled off back to class after my weekly breakdowns at the school counselor
@@RealRedRabbitAccorodng to google, Kelmp translated means scam haha
This is what I love about Aabria. She's an incredible story teller
When Brennan was building up to that last part, I could totally see Lou's body language. He knew where Brennan was going. It's stuff like that that make me love these people.
Evan talking about the things he’s seen his friends do will never not make me cry.
Same
I will never not tear up at this scene in general, but especially just Brennan's delivery of "I don't have that" in response to learning that he has to go home after his anti-magic operation.
Aabria feeling how heavy the moment is, breaking into a joke that feels completely natural in the moment, and still letting things pull back to the proper mood. Such good dming.
The emotional build up to 'I have a toilet'.
This scene devastated me in the best way when it first came out.
I have seasonal depression, have had since I was 11, and wasn't diagnosed until I was 20. When I was got a job after college with health insurance, I made a doctor's appointment for it, and I spent the whole drive there convincing myself that I wasn't sick enough, the doctor wasn't going to believe me or do anything to help. Five minutes into the appointment, he told me he totally agreed with me that it was time to try medication and get me some relief, after twelve years of dealing with it alone. That was the same year I watched M & M for the first time.
That moment when Stitchknit tells Evan its an outpatient procedure and they can resolve his problem and Evan just puts his face in his hands, it was such a visceral representation of how I felt in that moment. I love DND, I love this show, I love Aabria and Brennan, for this moment and many others.
.....hun, don't trust a doctor that is willing to prescribe you meds with only 5 minutes of conversation.
I AM SO FUCKING PROUD OF YOU!!! AND IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS ARE TOO!!
this hit me right in my heart my dude. Had a similar experience, this shit is so healing and also hard to look at?? just. i get it. I have OCD, basically entirely centered around being scared of hurting people. needless to say, this was a hard watch. and i’m grateful to brennan because i felt so fuckin represented here? not like he was trying for it but. he struck a chord what can i say?? i got meds after my second watch through when i could finally accept that i had a problem.
@@clintlaroux hugs, I'm so glad you got help and support too!
god, telling yourself you probably aren’t sick enough to receive treatment/be valid is such a terrible and defining part of depression (imo the worst part, really) and that moment when someone you trust tells you that you’re suffering more than you let on is such a validating moment
That's sucks buddy. Hope you're doing better now
This interaction hits so home for me, and I just love how much Brennan sells not just how sad this is, but how hard it is to get through to a person who is depressed to the point of self defeating. Having dated someone like this for almost a decade, this interaction feels painfully familiar. The idea of "Yes, but I'm just going to disappoint everyone, so why bother... "
having been there myself (and relapsing into that mindset from time to time even now), it hits. it hits and it hurts and holy fuck i was not ready for any of this.
I grew up in theatre. I'm a stage manager, I come from a family of actors and directors, my whole life and perspective is informed by the art of acting... This is some of the most beautiful and skillful work I've seen in a long time. He does the thing - where it's complex and simple at the same time because he drops all the trappings of artifice and gives you something gut-level True, but true in all the ways that a complex human is, so there are all the layers of overlapping thoughts and impulses - expressed or suppressed, felt or unconscious - but there's no business or mess because the Person is one, clear, real human. So simple. So difficult. Amazing.
Brennan is truly so talented. Every single character he plays is so real and so human. It’s amazing how effortless he makes it look
"i feel like you are a soul to only know bad options" is as raw as it is heartbreaking
This was truly so sad to watch as it was happening
The moment that murdered me was the moment you realized he wasn’t even going to get to keep the memories of his friends. This truly was a just flawless season.
I almost cried
@@jonathonthomas1255I'm still crying
@@farmoar i don't blame you
Even Kelmp makes me cry real tears
Evan Kelmp was a masterclass of saying no in a way that bolsters the improv rather than detracts feom it
I just finished watching Misfits and Magic for the first time and this hit me like a FING TRUCK. This scene really said, "here's a great metaphor for everything you've been dealing with for years. Cry about it" and I DID
Ahhh love it. I feel like the purpose of “yes, and” is to avoid putting the other person in a difficult situation where they either change the narrative or argue, but this was a situation where it’s obvious that his character is in denial. Aabria’s character hesitates/struggles to respond in a way that adds to the scene instead of detracting from it and I think that’s neat ✨
I love you Brennan Lee mulligan I love you aabria iyengar I love you fully immersive roleplay I love you I love you I love you
Seeing Brennan bury his face in his hands is SO powerful. You can tell hearing he can be rid of this is such a huge release, and relief for Evan. Him breaking the second he hears that is so relatable and amazing.
I made it almost halfway through before my eyes started leaking out all this warm salt water. Kelmp...makes my face leaky.
Just saw this pop up and it broke my heart, they’re so great in this
There's no "no, and" here. "Yes, and" refers to accepting the reality your scene partner is building with you, not having your character agree with what their character said. Brennan here doesn't hear the scenario and say "no, and here's a different reality instead", he said "yes that's right, and my character is unhappy about it".
“You go home.”
“I, I don’t… I don’t have that.”
God, man, crushing my soul out here
"I don't want you to feel like you only have bad options. I feel like you are a soul that's only ever known bad options"
Fuckin tears, man
Knowing that this was likely (one of) the seeding moment(s) for the World's Beyond Number crew has me sobbing right now.
I wish they would bring it back for a second season
Didn’t they? Or was that just the holiday special
i'm bawling and i don't even have the context that this was in. i haven't watched/listened to it.
i'm just crushed. dammit Brennan! i'm gonna have puffy, red eyes because you and the others were too good at your parts of this... guhrrr!
To keep it brief, Brennan’s character, Evan Kelmp, is Tom Riddle if he hated being evil. He has the dark, self-aware shadow, the wizard nazi fans, the sentient and aggressive blood, and he hates all of it. He was homeless in Iowa and didn’t have any money or friends, so coming to the wizard school with Sam, Dream, and Jabber is the first real experience he has with belonging somewhere, interacting with people that like him, and having a home.
He wants to get rid of his evil magic at any cost because he *hates* how much danger it puts his only friends in, and he’s willing to do whatever it takes to keep them safe, even at the cost of losing all his memories of both them and magic, because he loves them too much to risk their safety just to keep them around
Watch the campaign!!
Watch the campaign!!
This is my favourite campaign brennan has done and be apart of. Evan was so wonderful of a character
I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone more perfectly capture the feeling of being s**cidal then this scene. I have never felt more seen in my entire life. I had such a primal reaction I literally threw up. The feeling of this scene has been what has defined my entire life.
im glad i you’re still with us! ❤️
I had the exact same feeling. it’s so strange that the media that felt the most real about su*cide was a dnd show parody of Harry Potter.
when he’s talking about how he’s a burden on everyone around him… I just. Fuck man.
glad you’re still here too, hope you’re doing well
the video has captions!!!!!!!
Thank you for informing me!
oh my god thank you
"I feel like you are a soul that's only ever known bad options." Yes, I am.
I don't really know what's going on but I'm completely shook by everyone's performances.... 😢 Like what?....lol so good.
I also have no idea, but it's pretty intense.
god damn you i thought this was a funny humor ha-ha clip
me too😭
Exactly, I put this on and started brushing my teeth. It's paused at the halfway mark and my mouth is still full of toothpaste as I scroll through the comments to find out why I am crying now.
Ive never seen this campaign yet.
Just came for funny ha ha brennan dnd stuff
Stayed for the tears
I dunno who Evan is, but i wanna give him a hug and a coke
Brennan Lee Mulligan. One day I’m going to meet you. And I’m going to GET YOU.
this guy is insane at improv, he should try DM-ing his own games
He does, he's actually the main DM for this whole series
@@lexidc3940 that's the joke
@@feartheb33k33p3r I'm sorry, I didn't get it 😂
This is too much for my autistic, none emotional self, good day to you sir and madam
trying very hard not to cry into the electrical box i’m wiring at work rn; i miss this series so much, boutta rewatch
This was so beautiful
Oh, I'm crying.
We are watching an absolute Master at work. 😍
i was expecting an improv joke
Damn. Came for laughs, left with tears
I didnt even see the campaign and i am CRYING.
i cried to this with ZERO context
Cant wait for goat house season 2
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4:43 toilet joke
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okay this has been bugging me for a long time but *SPOILER* this scene is super confusing in light of the ending?
Like the implication is that Evan would have to leave because being “no longer magic” would remove both the demon/shadow thing and his capacity to cast spells, but later they make it sound like the spell part is just a human thing and everyone (in the wizard world) already knows that so why couldn’t they just pull the demon out?
is this like a trial for him? does he specifically have to continue through the program with the demon to be considered worthy of staying in the wizard world? Even if he has to lose his magic, there isn’t a solid reason given why he can’t exist in the world as a muggle beyond the broad background of muggle discrimination. This is the one thing plot thread that never ended in a satisfying way for me, which, oddly enough, represents the indifference of broader institutions pretty damn well.
The Wizarding world had figured that out recently, yes, that any human could do magic. So yes, muggles can become wizards. Elitist wizards are just prejudiced against muggles. But maybe something about the exorcism process itself severs magical ability? We know magic can be taken away. Talula can never do magic again until she does a good deed because of Evan's spell, so magic can DEFINITELY be taken away.
My interpretation was that the demon had attached itself to the magic part of him, so removing it would be like amputating the magic part. Presumably, something like squibs from HP still exist, and saying EVERYONE has magic is an exaggeration.
What always bothered me MORE was how the nurse didn’t double-check that Evan knew doing this would tank the whole pilot program. That’s something I’d put in super-clear language, especially since he mentioned staying while the others did magic. I get Aabria was trying to do a big finale reveal and that’s hard to navigate with improv, but still, it’s a plot hole.
@@fenrirsdaughter9880 I forgot about this plot point; this really confirms for me that magic is more common than it’s initially established but isn’t a necessary part of each human. these responses help a lot, thank you both
@@sugarqbs I always thought that the Wizard Establishment was keeping muggles out of the wizard world by omitting the fact that every human can learn magic to them. And the ordinary wizard people don't really think about the muggle-world all that much, maybe due to propaganda or other means of information control. So it's normal for them to think "If you can't do magic you can't live here" sort of like xenophobia in a "if you don't speak my language you can't live in my country" kind of way. And so taking a humans magic away is just something you can do, just like you could curse someone or make them blind or whatever. And so the Exorcism would just have the side effect of also taking Evans Ability for Magic away.
I can't pinpoint exactly why it absolutely grates on me, but every time someone says "Your feelings are *valid* ."
Feelings are always attached to perceived facts and values. And if they are attached to perceived facts that are untrue or values that are not good, then they are equally unvalid.
(There is still of course a difference between feelings being wrong due to simple lack of omniscience vs being wrong due to habitual unreasonableness/breaches of conscience.)
Growing in wisdom and character is *the* way to properly attend to your emotions. And stating that all feelings are intrinsically valid precludes, or at least impedes, progress toward that one really positive outcome.
As someone who is "habitually unreasonable" (depression and anxiety), you misunderstand what the sentence means. Everyone's feelings are valid, but that doesn't mean that how they act on those feelings is right. The whole point of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is to understand this so that you can reflect on and unpack why you have those "unreasonable" responses.
@@edim356 Yes we use feelings that apparently contradict our reason as opportunities to explore the reasons for those feelings, so as to determine whether we need to revise our story about reality, or whether we just need to integrate that rogue portion of the psyche into the more coherent and healthy whole.
Do u want a soda
I don't see the "no, and" Halp
Aabria tries to interject about him saving the other kid, but Brennan cuts her off and says he still wants the treatment. Because no amount of good that he can do will ever make up for the bad that could happen if he became prophesied evil wizard.
"yes, and" is like a rule-of-thumb in improv. Try to always go with what your improv partner(s) started and build on it with your own flavor.
"No, but" is like people trying to have a heartfelt moment about their dog passing and cutting them off saying "I shoot my gun in the air and peel out in my Camaro"
This is expertly in the middle because Brennan is a beast storyteller / actor. Rules are meant to be mastered and then broken artistically
I feel the improve axiom of "yes and" plays differently in long-form improv like TTRPGs.
Evan's loathing for this part of himself was very very established. If anything, it was Aabria that appeared to offer a "no but," but I feel she wasn't following yes, and/no, but improv guideline. I think she was setting up her scene partner to help him say something important about his character. Aabria put these words into Nurse Stitchnit for Brennan to play off of to show how rigid Evan was in his thinking.
And by doing this, Aabria was essentially "yes, anding" Brennan's choice!
IMO, Scene is like this:
Aabria: You could do great things and learn to love your magic.
Options are then:
Yes, and: Brennan says, "Yes, maybe you're right, and I'm going to do my best to control my magic and protect my friends."
No, but: Brennan says, "No, I can only be a danger to my friends, but if I have to choose between leaving my friends behind or staying with them, then I'll do my best to control my magic and protect my friends,"
No, and: Brennan says, "No, I can only be a danger to my friends, and I would rather lose my magic and leave them behind than put them in danger."
The first two are collaborative and seek to end up at the same destination, either by building on your partner's idea or by offering an alternative.
The second opposes your partner's idea, and reinforces that opposition by building on your own position.
Evan Kelmp doubling down on getting the procedure "no, and"s Aabria's attempt to get him to accept his magic by convincing him he can do good with it as well.
@@awm95 That's a fair assessment.
As a long time fan and participant of improvisational performance, it's important to note that "Yes, and" is a rule/guideline designed to serve as a foundation for being a positive participant in spontaneous action. In a more specific moment like the one here, it is definitely reasonable and even practical to abandon the notion of "yes at all costs". It led to a moment that was much deeper and real than following the script would have been.
What season is this and what episode? How long does it take to get to this moment?
D20: Misfits and Magic. I think it's about 1/3 of the way through. It's basically a play on Harry Potter, but with American teens who challenge a lot of the glaring flaws in world building. Like how these supposedly good and very powerful adults kept deliberately allowing or creating dangerous situations for children, or deciding what type of people they are for life based on a test as preteens.
Which episode was this in?
I don't have any context but uh this sounds like Tom Riddle from Harry Potter
TOM FREAKIN' RIDDLE
WAS HE PLAYING AS VOLDEMORT?
Dark Lord type stuff yeah
Imagine if Tom Riddle was a normal-ass, not evil at all kid that just had these dark lord type stuffs happen to him outside of the wizarding world with no context. That's the kind of Trauma Evan Kelmp experienced growing up, and why he says he wants to remove his magic.
@@onilink134 dang
That's wild
Why is this called his "no and"? He didn't say these words =x
Very emotional though!
I hope we get another season of this. In the span of 6 episodes I cared more than these 4 characters than Critical Role made me care about their characters in 115 episodes.
Can you just not compared people to another? If something is not your taste then keep it to yourself, noone want to know, nobody asked for your terrible opinion about other people. Also these people are friend with each other, stop compared them like they have beef with each other.
We don't need to diss other shows to praise ones we do like. I think we're better than that.
@@Miarose8613 The first comment was a bit unnecessary sure, but this is such an overreaction. Chill
Yall need to chill. I enjoyed both shows, Heaven forbid I prefer one over the other.
@@JohnnyBoy-wi4kn Having a preference isn't what I (can't talk for the other commenter) took issue with. You kinda just brought up CR for no reason just to say D20 did it better. You can just say "This show getting me to care about characters in very few episodes is a feat of storytelling." You don't then need to say that a whole different show, with a totally different format, runtime and focus, is worse in that aspect.
Critical Role is very focused on plot and wordlbuilding, whereas D20 is interested in experimentation with genre and improv comedy. They're aiming at different things, and so I don't think it's totally fair to judge them by the exact same metric. They're similar in some respects, yes, but they are still different, and should be examined differently. I don't think there's a lot of room for "D20 did this better. CR is better at this," because they're not trying to do many of the same things.
You can also just praise the show. You don't need to say you think it's better than something else. That gives people the impression that, by bringing it up unprompted, you're trying to hate on CR because there's no real reason to say that apart from saying that it did something worse than D20.
Hope this doesn't come off as being triggered or whatever. It just irks me to see these small-scale signs of weird, bad faith fandom culture when the people showing these signs likely don't even realise it. That's my TED Talk over, though.
Is this RPG or Improv?
Yes
Okay so.... What's this ?
Misfits and Magic, it's a D&D campaign on Dropout
@@andrea3803 what's a d&d campaign?
@@Elvan1568
Dungeons and dragons: it's a tabletop roleplaying game that they stream for people to watch
@@andrea3803 oh ok thx
@@andrea3803Not D&D, Kids on Brooms. Completely different system.
Now look at their profil pic
What show is this?😊
Misfits and Magic, by Dimension 20, on Dropout
He never says no and
it's refers to the improv technique, as in the opposite of "Yes, and...".
What is this?
A table top rpg like dungeons and dragons
Misfits & Magic from dimension 20, it's really good.
Context please?
Watch Misfits & Magic
@@notusingmyrealnamegoogle6232 Thank you for telling me what show this is from.
This is such a very emotional scene, I would love to understand why it is so emotional.
I will ask new questions: Context of this SPECIFIC scene, please? Why are things so emotional? What lead up to this scene?
Don't worry about spoilers - our comments will be buried so deep barely anyone will see it~
“She’s a 4th year”. That would make her around 8 years old
pretty sure they are talking about a senior in hs or college
@@mebum2289 they’re at school in Britain. High school is years 7 to 11 and that’s ages 10/11 to 15/16
@@kieranpriest9609okay but everyone playing is American, so 4th year here means senior in either high school or college
they're talking about what we call a year 10 in modern british schools; first years are in their first year of secondary school so they're 11. it's just like in harry potter, twins at st clares, malory towers etc - the naming convention of school years changed irl but it was maintained in these kinds of traditional boarding school fictional settings
god damn aabria wouldnt stop interrupting him rofl
I think it was in the moment, like Evan Kelmp was overthinking things and the professor was trying to correct the ideas before they got too far.
Shuddap
Branden is playing a confused and depressed child and Aabria is playing his mentor and teacher. And she would be absolutely terrible at both if she just let this kid go on thinking he is a mistake that needs to be fixed. He is ALL THE WAY in his own head and she is trying to pull him out before he does something irreversible.
yeah... weeping and stuff... surely not acted at all
does noone ever realize that this is a basically a TV show and not a bunch of friends that play Dnd?
normal people playing that game don't act that way, and no DM can ever be so immersive, that you totally feel everything.
xp to level 3 has a pretty good sarcastic video about this...
my dm is so immersive i feel everything 🤷🏻
"Normal" Dnd players don't have professional acting experience, Branden Lee Mulligan does. And Aabria has been Dming for many different tables for years. It's called being a professional. And I would at all be surprised if she didn't get a nice paycheck for DMing these days.
"does noone ever realize that this is a basically a TV show and not a bunch of friends that play Dnd?" Why does this matter? Like at all. It's entertaining, period. You clearly have never been to a public dnd game. They are as about as rigid and boring as the news, nobody is friends with anyone, and nobody ever wants to roleplay. Yet that is no less valid than this, or a normal home game. Dnd has to be the sadist thing you could ever gatekeep. Please seek help.
"Normal people playing that game don't act that way"
Maybe you just haven't been at a table like this ☠️ It's extremely common. My home games are exactly like this. Every table is different - wild concept, I know 😂
Believe it or not what they're doing is called roleplaying and it is quite common.
Also, yeah they're actors and coworkers, but they're also friends. It can be both, you know.
Yeah thats kind of the generally accepted point of these shows, is it not? To watch professional actors do fantasy improv according to dice? Its just nerdy drama TV (in a good way)
So... I ran my own version of this one snd it was nowhere near as well run. But there was one scene that made my players tear up snd it remains my pride and joy as a GM. Happy tears. Tears of, "Oh man, you cant be doin that to us" and. There's something so special about what they did here that it translates even when it's just being ripped off by someone like me.
Magic🪄
maybe the real magic is the misfits we made along the way
but seriously outside of the experience we all get from watching their campaigns, I’m sure they’re overjoyed to know that their influence is changing and expanding the possibilities that people see and perform in roleplaying as a whole. I for one can’t wait to experience more of this empathetic storytelling for myself: to really be seen in media.
WHOA LO FI GIRL MOVES?????????????
edit: wrong video.