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I swung at him the first turn after he got Necropotence but after that he had Solitary Confinement on the battlefield which would have prevented any damage
I'm pretty sure pronunciation/dialect coach and all-around speech therapist guru Saffron Olive pronounces it "Choo Layne." This is the undisputed true pronunciation of the word. See related: Omelette of Vigor.
I have to say something, I am a constant watcher of your videos, and the ones of many other mtg edh RUclips channels, I have to say I love yours the most. This edeting is amazing, the nice zooming out to explain the stack, the correct announcements of triggers, targets.. ability's and everything else.. The more you watch the more details you see. The number of cards.. The floating mana.. Maybe you could make the players have different colored names to show which commander damage is from who. Just an idea to improve these awesome videos even more... Just now as I write these words I see the turn count at the top for the first time! Those details which I was talking about earlier. I love it. Keep it up. We appreciate your work and love your content. May the gods be with you and may your opponents don't leave blue mana untapped while passing the turn to you. Greetings form Hamburg in Germany!
I really appreciate and respect the fact that not only do you put your lists on tappedout, but you also explain the combos and how they work. It's been extremely helpful!!
I love what you guys are bringing to the community. For the longest time, my playgroup and I were yo-yo-ing between full power cEDH content that was almost never considers playing niche/suboptimal cards and casual battlecruiser content. My group is right where you guys are at! We love our wheel of fortune/notion thief combos, and our worldgorger loops, but we also like to include some spice and personal preference. Keep up the great work - I'm loving the decklists and finding interesting cards you guys use... maybe consider doing deck techs once you get comfortable?
This is such a great powerlevel! Great breakdown of the Stax pieces at the end. I think it is wonderful for these videos because it adds a great deal of interaction and suspense. And video editing! You added screen shake! I wonder if you’ll ever do a “oh god this is kitchen” April fools video. I’d love to see that
You guys are doing something right, the lab maniacs mentioned y'all in there month in review podcast. I been following them for about 3 years and I been a subscriber of y'all for a while too, glad to know your content is been recognized by others. Keep up the good work
You are correct. It isn't a card that we play often so we must have skimmed over it; however, he did have the mana available to do it in response to moving to his own draw step, getting the same result
If the Stony Silence ever went away, reducing Joseph's treasure count by a few isn't a bad play especially since Bill didn't have much else to spend his mana on
While Stony Silence and Smothering Tithe are a bit of a nonbo they're still both worth to play. Either they leave my Stony Silence alone preventing them from using artifacts, or they destroy it giving me a big boost in mana
Whether you can see an immediate use for the treasures or not, its usually a good idea to pay for smothering tithe. Treasures are a powerful resource that can be used to gain value even with a stony silence on board (sacrifice fodder, things that actually care about you having treasures, or the eventuality that stony silence gets removed) hell, a large amount of treasures can form protection for the stony silence, it makes it a much riskier thing to remove if it gives him a lot of mana. So yeah, whenever theres a tithe on board, it's a good idea to figure out if you expect to have 2 mana left over after your turn, if so you should pay
Minor correction, forgive me for pushing my nerd glasses up for this one. Chulane's name isn't based off of the warrior Cu Chulainn, it was actually based on the blacksmith nammed Chulainn. Setana renamed himself Cu Chulainn ("The Hound of Chulainn") after killing the Blacksmith's dog and agreeing to guard his house like a hound until a proper guard dog could be raised to replace the one he murdered. So Chulane, teller of tales is actually the blacksmith, not the hero.
Hey so when Nate cast mystical tutor while at one life at 16:10 he tapped city of brass which would have killed him. His other mana options were mana Confluence and Tailismans, was the life total off, or was this something that just got missed?
This game was definitely one of my favourites on this channel and prob others ever. Also enjoy the extra dimension that stax adds to a game, and this was a perfect example of it on so many occasions during this game!
I run a Brago Stax deck and am a big proponent of stax in a competitive environment. I absolutely had a blast watching this match, one of my favorites so far!
Great game and superb content, as expected from you guys! Also, showing the number of cards in hand with that little icon is a great thing of improvement! KEEP IT UP!!! PLEASE :-)
At 16:10 or so, Nate taps City of Brass for blue Mana to tutor a card. The resulting Mana addition would have killed him due to City of Brass. I love your gameplay my friend!
At about 23:40, Bill taps an artifact (Great Furnace) for mana with Stony Silence on the board. It didn't end up *directly* impacting the game since he never tapped his last mountain, but he was able to leave up/bluff Pyroblast when he shouldn't have been able to.
I love your speech on Stax! I feel the same way, seeing stax more like a puzzle to work through. It's not fun when stax are so oppressive that really it's just one person taking multiple turns and there is no way to do anything at all, but most stax can be dealt with if you have proper removal.
@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG I definitely will!! K'rrik is one of my favorite cards and a Strom list seems stupid cool. I have not see anything along those lines for him before!
This one is uploaded on our normal upload day, the replacement for last week's video that was taking down was uploaded last Saturday (the recent Theros-themed video is its replacement)
Great explanation of Stax in Edh. I personally do not have a problem with playing against pieces or the stax archetype once I understand them. The biggest problem could be that the length of the game is increased, but I'd like to know if that is an issue for your playgroup.
How was Joseph able to combo off with Deafening Silence in play? He also cast a Nature's Claim and Shrieking Drake in the same turn a turn prior, I think. Can't stack your stax pieces or you forget about em!
I thank Bill made a mistake. The land he used to return an artifact from the graveyard brings that back back on top of the library, not to his hand. So he couldn't have played trinisphere the same turn.
i think Cú Chulain is pronounced koo-kuhl-in in phonetic text. which is read as Cu-Cull-In. Depending on if u think the H in Chulane is silent or not it should be Chu-lane or Cu-lane. oh and PS. great job with narrating everything thats happening while still keeping it fast and interesting. Keep it up
Wow, phenomenal game! So many great stacks (of spells) and stax pieces and timely interaction and counterspells, including two red counterspells from Bill that really impacted the game. Some awesome plays and I think everybody played very well. Nate really got hammered by some timely interaction from his opponents and I loved Bill's casting of Final Fortune to try and win the game after Nate (and his stax pieces) left the game. Too bad (for Bill) it didn't resolve. I was wondering why Nate was keeping that Solitary Confinement around because it didn't protect him from having his spells countered or from having his permanents removed, but I guess it is defense if Godo combos off since it does prevent damage and that's how Godo wins. But the Godo player was also pinned down from the stax pieces so not sure he was close to winning at that time. As for stax in EDH, I've gone from hating it to accepting it. And while I can't say I enjoy it, it does prolong games and often shuts off what my opponents are doing, and I agree with you that trying to win around the stax pieces adds another level of challenge to the game. I'll wrap up by saying I think you guys are doing the best quality cEDH content on RUclips at the moment, so huge props to you guys for that. Oh, and please just say CHOO-lane like everybody else does! LOL
Excellent game. Chulane can be such a fun Commander. Keep up the good work. Side note: Emma Handy is in a video with The Professor and pronounces it Choo-lane. She helped design the Brawl deck. Please stop saying Hullen. lol
I might be missing something, but shouldn't the torpor orb be shutting off Chulane's draw triggers because it stops all triggered abilities? Edit: My bad, just realized Chulane was a cast trigger not an ETB
800.4g. If a player leaves the game during his or her turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
So the game formally moves through all steps and phases as normal. And people can react whenever they get priority, e.g. when trying to leave the endstep.
So at the end of the game Joseph taps Chulane to return Shrieking Drake in Nate's end step but when the active player loses the game the turn ends and all spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Afaik there should not have been a point in time where Joseph could activate Chulane without cursed totem being on the board before his untap step. I don't think this ended up mattering but am I interpreting the rules correctly here?
Mana breach allows me to return an island and Chulane lets me replay that island drawing for essentially 0 mana. When I draw and play Lotus Cobra I now net mana every time the loop iterates and that is enough to get me started.
Have to say this (as Irish person). Chulane doesn't come from Cú Culainn, a name that means hound of Culainn. Born Sétanta, he gained his better-known name as a child, after killing Culann's fierce guard-dog in self-defence and offered to take its place until a replacement could be reared.
Late in the game bill tapped his great furnace while there was a Stony silence in play. He still had a extra untapped land so it didn't affect the game. I think it was his turn 11. Great game though keep up all the great work.
I played Chulane Hatebears at my most recent Commander event, and it ran the tables. My decks are in the 7 to 8 power level, and generally struggle to compete with some of the top level decks I encounter: however, I think people underestimate the effectiveness of cards like Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, both Thalias, Leonin Arbiter, Aven Mindcensor, Collector Ouphe, etc. Cards that either slow down or dumpster the typical cEDH meta are incredibly powerful and underplayed. I've never taken first place before at my events, but I think I will have a target on my back now.
How is the Shrieking Drake + Lotus Cobra loop a consistent wincon when Chulane's draw is not a 'may' ability? You'd deck yourself and die way too often.
Shrieking Drake can bounce Chulane when I want to stop drawing. The rest of the explanation for the way I normally win is described at the end. There are other ways of gaining mana and going infinite, this is usually just the easiest to tutor up
He did mistakenly tap it for mana; however, from what I can tell he had 1 mountain untapped both times he used Great Furnace, so he still had the mana available to cast the spells he cast
The damage from City of Brass is prevented due to Solitary Confinement being on the battlefield. He then gains a life allowing him to pay for the Polluted Delta crack
wait. Chulane is based of Cu Chulain? Damn. Now I need to make a Chulane deck with every legendary spear and somehow kill itself. Though I guess all the Lab man deck strategies make sense now. Its just lancer committing suicide and somehow winning at the end.
how did joseph activate chulane at the "end" of the other players turn of losing? the other player lost the game right at the moment of his attempt to draw a card. there was no other phases. chulane should wait until his upkeep to be able to activate his eff.
At that point I was honestly pretty sure Nate was going to whiff and the Trinisphere stops me from winning. I was planning on Nate losing and just wanted to make sure my first de-staxxed turn didn't have a Trinisphere in it
It looks like at 23:37 Bill tapped his Great Furnace to pay for Trinisphere when there was a Stony Silence in play. He still had a Mountain untapped, so it didn't ultimately matter here, but that Great Furnace wouldn't have been able to tap for a red.
so why did nate not just win when he had necropotence. jace, and phyrexian unlife out at the same time? he could have just drawn the rest of his library with necro, and be at negative life b/c unlife only cares about damage becoming infect?
Regarding the Chulane deck, what would've happened if Lotus Cobra was the last card in the deck? Chulane would then deck himself trying to play any creature spells.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but Jordan could have used the Glen Elendra Archmage to counter a noncreature spell and stop the combo at the end of the game, right? Like the Breach, the Crossroads or the Finale? Or he just wanted the game to end and let Joseph win? :)
He already activated Jace on his turn and had no other way to draw. If he had passed the turn, the entire table knew he had Tainted Pact due to him revealing it and Jace would not have made it all the way through the turn cycle
Alluren and Earthcraft with more bounce itself creatures do so much shenanigans on Chulane, missed them on this list. Also, Heritage Druid with 2 more elves in play and Cloudstone Curio draw all your library and put all lands onto the battlefield
I think Jordan should have been a bit more aggressive with his creatures pre solitary confinement. He couldn’t activate them with the Totem in play anyway, and taking a point or two of life from Nate would have really constricted his plays since he was so aggressive with his Necro. There were a few points where being at one less life would have prevented him from tapping confluence or fetching with his delta.
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I swung at him the first turn after he got Necropotence but after that he had Solitary Confinement on the battlefield which would have prevented any damage
I'm pretty sure that was high tide
The art on High Tide is very distinguishable.
@Casually Competitive MTG, shouldn't the Zur player have taken 2 from tapping mana confluence AND city of brass to cast force of negation?
Pronounced kuːˈkʌlɪn
Hard C
Putting long term plans on the bottom of your library is definately a flavour win
Agreed, play of the game 😂
Didn't want to win too fast?
I play Lady Azami, this is nuts! XD
That card under the Elite Arcanist is High Tide. Since it's been in his hand all game.
I really like that you explain the goal of the deck at the beginning. It's really helpful to this new commander player
It's absolutely a high tide under there.
YAY I DID IT!!!!! :D
I was thinking it was dramatic reversal lol
@@dennard93 dramatic reversal doesnt have that old border
I was thinking High Tide as well.
I'm pretty sure pronunciation/dialect coach and all-around speech therapist guru Saffron Olive pronounces it "Choo Layne." This is the undisputed true pronunciation of the word. See related: Omelette of Vigor.
Scumble to Temptation is an all-timer, too.
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I pronounce it choo lane :P
I still remember the game where he called pithing needle on pithing needle
Cir-cutie-ous Route says hello
I have to say something, I am a constant watcher of your videos, and the ones of many other mtg edh RUclips channels, I have to say I love yours the most. This edeting is amazing, the nice zooming out to explain the stack, the correct announcements of triggers, targets.. ability's and everything else.. The more you watch the more details you see. The number of cards.. The floating mana.. Maybe you could make the players have different colored names to show which commander damage is from who. Just an idea to improve these awesome videos even more... Just now as I write these words I see the turn count at the top for the first time! Those details which I was talking about earlier. I love it. Keep it up. We appreciate your work and love your content. May the gods be with you and may your opponents don't leave blue mana untapped while passing the turn to you. Greetings form Hamburg in Germany!
I really appreciate and respect the fact that not only do you put your lists on tappedout, but you also explain the combos and how they work. It's been extremely helpful!!
Oh yes!
I would give the red deck the side eye, "You have no artifact destruction?"
What am I missing? Why Nate didnt cast tainted pact before he plus Jace at 16:23? (Yeah, watching the video 2 years later)
Came here to ask the same thing!
I love what you guys are bringing to the community. For the longest time, my playgroup and I were yo-yo-ing between full power cEDH content that was almost never considers playing niche/suboptimal cards and casual battlecruiser content. My group is right where you guys are at! We love our wheel of fortune/notion thief combos, and our worldgorger loops, but we also like to include some spice and personal preference. Keep up the great work - I'm loving the decklists and finding interesting cards you guys use... maybe consider doing deck techs once you get comfortable?
At around 23:25 Bill returns an artifact with Sequestered Stash to his Hand. The stash only returns artifacts to the top of the library.
trueeeeeeeee
Nice catch, but hey mistakes happen.
i love the way you narrate these it's so easy to follow
Lots of counter magic battles in this episode!
This is such a great powerlevel! Great breakdown of the Stax pieces at the end. I think it is wonderful for these videos because it adds a great deal of interaction and suspense. And video editing! You added screen shake! I wonder if you’ll ever do a “oh god this is kitchen” April fools video. I’d love to see that
You guys are doing something right, the lab maniacs mentioned y'all in there month in review podcast. I been following them for about 3 years and I been a subscriber of y'all for a while too, glad to know your content is been recognized by others. Keep up the good work
At 23:32. Just as a heads up. Sequestered stash does not put it into your hand. It puts it on top of your deck.
You are correct. It isn't a card that we play often so we must have skimmed over it; however, he did have the mana available to do it in response to moving to his own draw step, getting the same result
"Chewlane" lol
I mean, most people don't know Gaelic works. i am guilty of this pronunciation, and I run him
"Alen" lol
Either way it's a made up word because they didn't use the same spelling and it's a dead language. Either way works imo.
@@Nick-dn9lv HEY!
Gaelic is on life support with stage 4 cancer and polio, not dead.
Wholan
Good video, one question: why is Bill paying for smothering tithe when Joseph can't use them due to stony silence?
Good question. Also didn't Joseph play the Stony Silence?
If the Stony Silence ever went away, reducing Joseph's treasure count by a few isn't a bad play especially since Bill didn't have much else to spend his mana on
While Stony Silence and Smothering Tithe are a bit of a nonbo they're still both worth to play. Either they leave my Stony Silence alone preventing them from using artifacts, or they destroy it giving me a big boost in mana
Whether you can see an immediate use for the treasures or not, its usually a good idea to pay for smothering tithe. Treasures are a powerful resource that can be used to gain value even with a stony silence on board (sacrifice fodder, things that actually care about you having treasures, or the eventuality that stony silence gets removed)
hell, a large amount of treasures can form protection for the stony silence, it makes it a much riskier thing to remove if it gives him a lot of mana.
So yeah, whenever theres a tithe on board, it's a good idea to figure out if you expect to have 2 mana left over after your turn, if so you should pay
Love the channel, but why did Jordan never use his Glenn elendra to stop the winning combo?
What an insane game. I love the content. You guys are probably my favorite commander channel.
15:54 shouldnt City of Brass have killed Nate?
NO, since there is solitary confinement
Minor correction, forgive me for pushing my nerd glasses up for this one.
Chulane's name isn't based off of the warrior Cu Chulainn, it was actually based on the blacksmith nammed Chulainn. Setana renamed himself Cu Chulainn ("The Hound of Chulainn") after killing the Blacksmith's dog and agreeing to guard his house like a hound until a proper guard dog could be raised to replace the one he murdered.
So Chulane, teller of tales is actually the blacksmith, not the hero.
Pretty cool game. Loved that Chulane deck
Hey so when Nate cast mystical tutor while at one life at 16:10 he tapped city of brass which would have killed him. His other mana options were mana Confluence and Tailismans, was the life total off, or was this something that just got missed?
This game was definitely one of my favourites on this channel and prob others ever. Also enjoy the extra dimension that stax adds to a game, and this was a perfect example of it on so many occasions during this game!
Nice vid! Liked every part of it. And please more Chulane 👍
I run a Brago Stax deck and am a big proponent of stax in a competitive environment. I absolutely had a blast watching this match, one of my favorites so far!
So basically, it was two hours of:
"I counter you!"
"No! I counter YOU'RE counter! hahaha"
what happened to the stony silency for players to keep paying the smoothering tithe tax, and godo keep using great furnance?
How does chulane trigger through torpor orb when casting the noble hierarch
Great game and superb content, as expected from you guys! Also, showing the number of cards in hand with that little icon is a great thing of improvement!
KEEP IT UP!!! PLEASE :-)
Good work on the formatting. I enjoy watching it
At 16:10 or so, Nate taps City of Brass for blue Mana to tutor a card. The resulting Mana addition would have killed him due to City of Brass. I love your gameplay my friend!
What is the furnace of wrath not able to be tapped for mana due to stony silence.
As a Zur player what is a good win con? I am going with a Helm of Obedience and rest in pace with aura/ commander damage back up plan
why didn't jordan bounce phyrexian unlife with chain? he was already at 0. what am I missing?
At about 23:40, Bill taps an artifact (Great Furnace) for mana with Stony Silence on the board. It didn't end up *directly* impacting the game since he never tapped his last mountain, but he was able to leave up/bluff Pyroblast when he shouldn't have been able to.
Was a mistake to not activate chulane's bounce ability on arbor elf?
Shouldn't torpor orb negate chulanes etb trigger?
I love your speech on Stax! I feel the same way, seeing stax more like a puzzle to work through. It's not fun when stax are so oppressive that really it's just one person taking multiple turns and there is no way to do anything at all, but most stax can be dealt with if you have proper removal.
Hmm, storm player here and I gotta say, that definitely looks like a High Tide to me lol.
Some of my favorite games had stacks pieces on the board. A saheeli deck beat down a kaalia deck with servos and myr to get rid of a stony silence
So that K'rrik storm list on tappedout looked pretty lit. I can't seem to find it in one of your episodes tho
Keep an eye out for next Friday's episode!
@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG I definitely will!! K'rrik is one of my favorite cards and a Strom list seems stupid cool. I have not see anything along those lines for him before!
How did nate tap the city of brass at 16:19 when he had one life?
He has Solitary Confinement on the battlefield preventing the damage
Was this up faster due to the last one being taken down? If anyone has an answer would be much appreciated
This one is uploaded on our normal upload day, the replacement for last week's video that was taking down was uploaded last Saturday (the recent Theros-themed video is its replacement)
At around the 13:05 mark did the zur player not tap a city of brass in addition to a mana confluence at 2 life? Nvm it's not life loss its damage
Mana confluence is life loss
@@aleavilestv yes I thought city of brass worked the same way
I love playing against Stax!!!
It's like trying to solve a puzzle while playing Magic as well. So much fun 😁
I really like Nates playmat. Where can I buy it?
Great explanation of Stax in Edh. I personally do not have a problem with playing against pieces or the stax archetype once I understand them.
The biggest problem could be that the length of the game is increased, but I'd like to know if that is an issue for your playgroup.
At 21.23 why red elemental blast? If every stax piece left the field couldn’t godo just run off with the game?
How was Joseph able to combo off with Deafening Silence in play? He also cast a Nature's Claim and Shrieking Drake in the same turn a turn prior, I think. Can't stack your stax pieces or you forget about em!
Deafening silence says you can only cast one /noncreature/ spell per turn. He did just that, until he was able to bounce the deafening silence
I thank Bill made a mistake.
The land he used to return an artifact from the graveyard brings that back back on top of the library, not to his hand.
So he couldn't have played trinisphere the same turn.
i think Cú Chulain is pronounced koo-kuhl-in in phonetic text. which is read as Cu-Cull-In. Depending on if u think the H in Chulane is silent or not it should be Chu-lane or Cu-lane.
oh and PS. great job with narrating everything thats happening while still keeping it fast and interesting. Keep it up
Wow, phenomenal game! So many great stacks (of spells) and stax pieces and timely interaction and counterspells, including two red counterspells from Bill that really impacted the game. Some awesome plays and I think everybody played very well. Nate really got hammered by some timely interaction from his opponents and I loved Bill's casting of Final Fortune to try and win the game after Nate (and his stax pieces) left the game. Too bad (for Bill) it didn't resolve. I was wondering why Nate was keeping that Solitary Confinement around because it didn't protect him from having his spells countered or from having his permanents removed, but I guess it is defense if Godo combos off since it does prevent damage and that's how Godo wins. But the Godo player was also pinned down from the stax pieces so not sure he was close to winning at that time. As for stax in EDH, I've gone from hating it to accepting it. And while I can't say I enjoy it, it does prolong games and often shuts off what my opponents are doing, and I agree with you that trying to win around the stax pieces adds another level of challenge to the game. I'll wrap up by saying I think you guys are doing the best quality cEDH content on RUclips at the moment, so huge props to you guys for that. Oh, and please just say CHOO-lane like everybody else does! LOL
Never mind my comment about Solitary Confinement. I see it did prevent him from taking damage that would have lost him the game. I got it now! :-)
Is that a sneaky hightide?
What was the point of paying for smothering tide
I love chulene he’s such a fun commander he can be a haymaker or controlling he’s my favorite commander I have and he’s so much fun to play
Excellent game. Chulane can be such a fun Commander. Keep up the good work. Side note: Emma Handy is in a video with The Professor and pronounces it Choo-lane. She helped design the Brawl deck. Please stop saying Hullen. lol
Im confused. The zur deck in the video and the zur deck in the description are similar but I noticed that Zur (in the video) has more creatures.
You are correct, I used an old list that I had gotten from Nate. The decklist is now updated with all of his recent changes
I might be missing something, but shouldn't the torpor orb be shutting off Chulane's draw triggers because it stops all triggered abilities?
Edit: My bad, just realized Chulane was a cast trigger not an ETB
Chulane triggers on cast not enter the battlefield
20:50 maybe it's just me who lost track of things but didn't he have 2 talismans untapped?
If someone dies, can you do anything during their end step? I thought the turn ends like if someone resolved a time stop during the draw step?
800.4g. If a player leaves the game during his or her turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.
So the game formally moves through all steps and phases as normal.
And people can react whenever they get priority, e.g. when trying to leave the endstep.
ArmorBreaker88 Thank you for that detailed response. I wish I knew that years ago!
Thank you just for existing
Chulane is not based on Cu Chulainn. Chulainn was a famous lance man and the “hound of Chulainn”.
So at the end of the game Joseph taps Chulane to return Shrieking Drake in Nate's end step but when the active player loses the game the turn ends and all spells and abilities on the stack are exiled. Afaik there should not have been a point in time where Joseph could activate Chulane without cursed totem being on the board before his untap step. I don't think this ended up mattering but am I interpreting the rules correctly here?
Rule 800.4i states that the phases still pass as normal if a player loses or leaves the game during their turn
Well I learnt something new. One day I will understand this game I've been playing for the majority of my lifetime.
did you had enough mana to draw all of that with the drake? or there's something i'm missing?
Mana breach allows me to return an island and Chulane lets me replay that island drawing for essentially 0 mana. When I draw and play Lotus Cobra I now net mana every time the loop iterates and that is enough to get me started.
I cannot express in words my absolute love of stax.
Great presentation of commander game, I love it
Best EDH content on the internet!
Have to say this (as Irish person). Chulane doesn't come from Cú Culainn, a name that means hound of Culainn. Born Sétanta, he gained his better-known name as a child, after killing Culann's fierce guard-dog in self-defence and offered to take its place until a replacement could be reared.
Late in the game bill tapped his great furnace while there was a Stony silence in play. He still had a extra untapped land so it didn't affect the game. I think it was his turn 11. Great game though keep up all the great work.
voted for zur but godo looks also interesting.
It is nice to see all the little things of the editing which have improved.
23:40, Sequestered Stash should put Trinisphere to top of library, not to hand.
I played Chulane Hatebears at my most recent Commander event, and it ran the tables. My decks are in the 7 to 8 power level, and generally struggle to compete with some of the top level decks I encounter: however, I think people underestimate the effectiveness of cards like Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, both Thalias, Leonin Arbiter, Aven Mindcensor, Collector Ouphe, etc. Cards that either slow down or dumpster the typical cEDH meta are incredibly powerful and underplayed. I've never taken first place before at my events, but I think I will have a target on my back now.
How is the Shrieking Drake + Lotus Cobra loop a consistent wincon when Chulane's draw is not a 'may' ability? You'd deck yourself and die way too often.
Shrieking Drake can bounce Chulane when I want to stop drawing. The rest of the explanation for the way I normally win is described at the end. There are other ways of gaining mana and going infinite, this is usually just the easiest to tutor up
I love this. Please, please keep doing these.
Did Bill tap the great furnace for mana despite stony silence?
Yes
He did mistakenly tap it for mana; however, from what I can tell he had 1 mountain untapped both times he used Great Furnace, so he still had the mana available to cast the spells he cast
Chulane will forever be known as Colin to me now.
26:25 Are you allowed to do things on a dying player's turn after they've died? What an amazing game btw!
13:02 Am I missing something or Nate is dead here being at 2 hp and tapping Mana Confluence + City of Brass?
The damage from City of Brass is prevented due to Solitary Confinement being on the battlefield. He then gains a life allowing him to pay for the Polluted Delta crack
Why did he take two life the turn he played the Confinement? And additional 5 from Necopotence the same turn?
@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG Oh, i see. Thanks)
Why chulane arent used to bounce arbor elf and draw more cards.
wait. Chulane is based of Cu Chulain? Damn. Now I need to make a Chulane deck with every legendary spear and somehow kill itself. Though I guess all the Lab man deck strategies make sense now. Its just lancer committing suicide and somehow winning at the end.
how did joseph activate chulane at the "end" of the other players turn of losing? the other player lost the game right at the moment of his attempt to draw a card. there was no other phases. chulane should wait until his upkeep to be able to activate his eff.
Rule 800.4i states that the phases still pass as normal if a player loses or leaves the game during their turn
@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG oooh, thanks for the tip. I will tell my playgroup about that.
Am I missing something or should Joseph have targeted the unlife instead of the trinisphere?
Why target Unlife? Nate had no cards left in his deck and died from decking the next turn.
At that point I was honestly pretty sure Nate was going to whiff and the Trinisphere stops me from winning. I was planning on Nate losing and just wanted to make sure my first de-staxxed turn didn't have a Trinisphere in it
Couldn't Nate have used tainted pact to Mill himself for the ein since he had jace, leave himself at 1 card in library and plays a cantrip?
Love Chule’s! I’m not sure why he got a trigger at 8:00 when there was a Torpor Orb in play though?
Cast trigger
It looks like at 23:37 Bill tapped his Great Furnace to pay for Trinisphere when there was a Stony Silence in play. He still had a Mountain untapped, so it didn't ultimately matter here, but that Great Furnace wouldn't have been able to tap for a red.
@@Cosi659 Tapping for mana is an activated ability. Otherwise it would specify with another clause "except for mana abilities" like Pithing Needle.
What am I missing? Didnt Jordan miss at LEAST 10 draw triggers with azami ?
Cursed totem prevented him from activating his commander
@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG ohh that makes sense, nvm then^^
so why did nate not just win when he had necropotence. jace, and phyrexian unlife out at the same time? he could have just drawn the rest of his library with necro, and be at negative life b/c unlife only cares about damage becoming infect?
Regarding the Chulane deck, what would've happened if Lotus Cobra was the last card in the deck? Chulane would then deck himself trying to play any creature spells.
High tide?
Maybe I'm missing something here, but Jordan could have used the Glen Elendra Archmage to counter a noncreature spell and stop the combo at the end of the game, right? Like the Breach, the Crossroads or the Finale? Or he just wanted the game to end and let Joseph win? :)
A few inventors fair triggers were missed on Godo’s board I believe. It didn’t matter, great game!
Nate had Jace and then played Tainted Pact, but didn't use it to win the game. Am I missing something here?
He already activated Jace on his turn and had no other way to draw. If he had passed the turn, the entire table knew he had Tainted Pact due to him revealing it and Jace would not have made it all the way through the turn cycle
Alluren and Earthcraft with more bounce itself creatures do so much shenanigans on Chulane, missed them on this list. Also, Heritage Druid with 2 more elves in play and Cloudstone Curio draw all your library and put all lands onto the battlefield
Didn't Nate tap City of Brass when he had one life?
At 11:05, Nate took one damage from Mana confluence despite all damage being prevented
Mana Confluence has an activated ability of "pay 1 life." A little different then City of Brass that says when it is tapped it deals 1 damage to you.
I think Jordan should have been a bit more aggressive with his creatures pre solitary confinement. He couldn’t activate them with the Totem in play anyway, and taking a point or two of life from Nate would have really constricted his plays since he was so aggressive with his Necro. There were a few points where being at one less life would have prevented him from tapping confluence or fetching with his delta.
16:31 I’m I missing something or did Nate kill himself by tapping City of Brass at one life?
Nevermind, didn’t realize Solidarity confinement worked like that