The Vicious Story Of Lisa Straub & Johnny Clarke
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2022
- Today’s case examines the brutal double homicide of a young couple in a quiet suburban neighbourhood. The case was unusual, with a friend claiming to overhear the start of the attack over the phone. And as the investigation unfolded, it seemed many of those closest to the couple were unwilling to share what they knew with police. It would take nearly a year for investigators to sift through a web of lies and half-truths before an arrest could be made. Yet ten years later, questions remain. Do police really have their killer? And who else was involved? This is the disturbing case of Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub.
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If you’re going to take everything personal someone says to you during a frantic 911 call, don’t be a dispatcher.
I KNOW!!!! I HATEEEE SO MANY OF THE DISPATCHERS ON THESE! Lol.
NO COMPASSION OR PATIENCE
Yes but it’s in the best interest to calm the person down. Them being combative rather than cooperative hurts more than helps so it wasn’t her taking it personally it’s her literally saying it’s going to help more if you work with me rather than yell at me.
She sounded like a straight up B who has been at her job to long and she seemed bothered and annoyed.
@@bellagirl0409 I didn't say she didn't, her tone and the words she was speaking are two very different things
I’m sorry, but I hope that dispatcher got fired after that. That’s an EMERGENCY line, not a regular degular call center. She talked to that woman like she was talking to an irrationally angry customer, yelling about a problem with her bill. I understand being jaded after working there for a while, but really?? Especially with the “how would I know, ma’am?” response, and stuff. Like, geez.
Get it done that cow said. Fire her
Seems increasingly 911 calls responders are sounding like that...no care sad
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I promise you that did not happen I was a dispatcher for the fire department here and dispatchers actually the reason that people died because of them sending apparatus to the wrong address and what not and nothing ever happens nothing ever happens to those dispatchers ever
I remember getting into a car accident last October with my son who wasn't even 2 at the time. I was shaken up naturally and couldn't think straight trying to explain where I was. The dispatcher spoke to me like I was the worlds biggest moron! I couldn't believe my ears. I finally said "ya know.. I just got into an accident with my baby... if you don't like helping people at the most stressful times in their life you should find a new job" and I hung up. Thank god a state trooper was driving by and pulled over. Smh. I've heard other recording of dispatchers being nasty as hell too!!!
There is nothing more disgusting or disappointing than being let down by police when you’re in desperate need. Absolutely infuriating.
They can only do so much it's not their fault. Things happen and they were already dead by the time they found them. Never bash the police like that.
Officers had no right to go in
@@2007mjimpersonatorit’s not their fault that the police left her child dead without looking in the house they begged them too??? Or not their fault the 911 operator was a complete witch??
It’s ALL their fault that these panicked innocent parents were mistreated by police and 911
@@Ltdangle904WRONG
@@courtneykate5387 please explain how I’m wrong.
The 911 operator reminds me of a case here in Australia....a woman was hiding from 2 men and called for help. She swore at the emergency operator (obviously because she was terrified). The operator hung up on her and did not send help. The men found her and killed her.
I understand it's a hard job but it's like they forget they are often dealing with people in the worst moments of their lives
It is a very difficult job that has a high suicide rate from what I understand, at least in America. Obviously what you're talking about is awful and I hope the person was, at least, fired and, at best, doing time in jail for helping her get murdered.
However, people fussing at the 911 operator for being rude, etc is wrong, imo. They are trained to remain detached and calm. Them getting upset just leads to the caller getting more upset.
@@13lilsykos it’s panic and fight or flight. Far from just normal emotions.
That is like next level horror. Call the police and beg for help? "Sorry we are on lunch can you call back"
I worked as a 911 dispatcher and got yelled at, but one cannot take it personal, or you well lose focus on the call!
Very stressful, especially in a big city!
That’s awful.
I am 5 minutes in and already I am fuming. That 911 operator is so disgusting telling a mother whose son is unconscious in a basement to calm down and not yell. If she wanted a calm environment she should have been a librarian I hope she got fired.
Same Here Very Unprofessional & It’s Crazy I’ve Heard A lot Of Videos Like This Where The 911 Operator’s Are Rude As Hell
The operator can not do his work propper if the Person on the other side is yelling.
That is their job to tell them to calm down, they actually have a protocol for several reasons. If they are not calm then they can not hear whats going on and what they are trying to say.
I find most of them are in these like they take their time ,, gets on my nerves like HELLO UR A 911 OPERATOR WAKE TF UP.. 💯💯😓💜💜🙏godbless all dat sees this xxxx
God bless all us 👌⭐😭😭this world is cruel i live in ireland and its no better here 💜💜💜
I can't imagine the pain of seeing your child tied up, laying unconscious, and being totally helpless to get to them...all while someone ignores your pleas for help.
Maybe she did it...why not break a window immediately after you see them.
The police already went out there and then were being sent back, How exactly is that "ignoring your pleas for help"??
Wit a bag ovr thr head!!!! Thts super sad
A bit late to complain... they were dead already and they fucked up long time before that. Bad amoral people
What kind of shitty parent or person for that matter would pretend they're helpless in that situation and not at least try to break a window or something?
You'd think parents who actually love their kids would put their life on the line to get to them by any means necessary... Obviously not because they're 'helpless' and all they can do is scream on the phone right?
Hope you don't have kids.
As a UK resident 🇬🇧 I find it absolutely unbelievable how 911 operators speak to people in crisis. Its awake and absolutely heartbreaking to listen to 💔
Came here to say the same thing! Absolutely shocking procedure
It's usually an entry level dispatcher position. Would help if schools or such taught basic level emergency response so people were familiar with what information is needed. 911 doesn't personally respond so they need basic information to determine who to contact, where to send them, and what they should expect.
Are they like that in the UK? Obviously they are here in the States
It's absolutely bad 👎
Living in a shithole like England, you've got bigger fish to fry than nincompoop 911 ops😂
This whole case is confusing me badly. But Tiffany chick she definitely knows more and was apart of it. She waited way too long to report them missing. I bet she was in there helping cover up evidence etc. Way too many inconsistencies with her stories. I do believe too they were looking for a big jackpot that was in that house.
That Alex chick has a kid, popping pills like candy and the whole time she was smiling laughing during the interrogation. From the interrogation you just can see how addicted and dirty they are. Pills, heroine, meth use and damaged brain all exposed here.
Maybe to pick someone up? It’s a pretty good alibi. If your the killer and know the victim was on the phone, are you going to take all that time to kill them that way? Something’s off.
I think why it’s so confusing is, there are so many shady characters involved. They’re all not that believable. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were all in on it.
That mother knew something was wrong and she didn’t give up even though people kept telling her nothing was wrong and to calm down. I’m disgusted
Yes. 100% yes.. "I have a feeling you set up my son" ... Set-up indeed. You go there for a damn welfare check under suspicious circumstances - 2 times- and you fail to make contact with either person? Whether intended or not, you contributed to that. ..sometimes doing nothing is worse, and this is most definitely one of those times.
Johnny was her baby she has been thru hell since this happen
@Coogan WHO said that? Like wtf you answered your own question with your own answer. And you don't know my age ? Tf?
@Coogan yeah that's not the case...all good-I was gonna say and you must be a 9|| dispatcher ..
But anyway, the video as a whole was just one big fat fail after another - and as a mom that was really hard to hear or imagine her pain- her horror in those HRS.. I do also feel (and ppl can get upset..that's their right) LE dropped the ball which had ripple effects, bad ones, and I feel stereotyping sparked those failures - those abandoned protocols- protocols that may or may not have saved 2 lives had they been followed. Guess we'll never know 🤷♀️
@Jay C. I'm disgusted too!The 911 operators are useless and apathetic! The poor mother was talking to a brick wall! How did cops not take them seriously.😎
As someone who used to bar tend and try to diffuse tense situations, telling someone to calm down is often like throwing gasoline on a fire. Not sure why 911 operators do not know that.
Same here [bartender] you are so right
Seriously!! I’ve watched so many of these videos and I’ve never heard a dispatcher yell at the person like all pissy. Not okay at all.
Yea that’s the wrong person for the job when she thinks it’s ok to say that to a worried mother
Oh just not even knowing what happened yet I wanted to jump thru the phone back in time for her… I would have liked to had heard why it took that girl Tiffany two hours to call the mom or do anything when she was supposed to hang out there and get pills… users usually have a hard time waiting around to get high unless she got it elsewhere or was involved. Maybe the other girl Cousina did get along with Tiffany and just said that to confuse police and they were both there too.
Yeah I heard that and was taken a back by that comment from the operator. It’s her job you’d think she’d be better at diffusing situations…….smh
I am a Nurse for 3 decades now and still love my job because the kindness and care you show helps healing or comfort a dying person! People who don't have that are wrong in this job, period! We all humans and have a bad day but don't show it to the vulnerable, that is part of being professional!
Mistakes are human. But police mistakes (or negiglence) from police can KILL and therefore are NOT acceptable. Shame at the entire police department of this town for being negligent. I am soooo angry right now!
You can’t say mistakes are human but if you’re a cop you need to be perfect and non human.
@@v.l.7656the police mistakes could kill people. Especially if they're a bitch like this dispatcher
They were dead LONG after the police were called...The criminal's mother's idiotic screaming on the phone was so accurate...CORRECT?
Cops just can't kick doors in on people house because their mommy can't get ahold of them, it just don't work like that
Too bad police are also human. 🤦♀
This is why parents worry about their kids’ friends. The company you keep can either raise you up or bring you down.
The first time I tried weed I was in my 30’s - When asked why, I respond:
*If you don’t do drugs and none of your friends do drugs …it’s pretty easy to avoid.*
I understand why people do, but I’m thankful I never went down that path at a young age.
A teacher of mine said "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you the sought of person you are".
Truer words have never been spoken.
true but how do you force your kids to not be friends with certain people, kids usually rebel and do the opposite to what you say. All you can do is raise them in a good area (if you can afford it) and teach them empathy as much as you can.
And their friends parents could say the same thing about them.
I’d be screaming at that 911 operator too. Shouldn’t they be trained to, I don’t know, treat people with some respect? Even if they can’t control what’s going on, they shouldn’t get pissy when someone’s children are literally dead in the basement of the house they’d JUST called the cops to. And it also amazes me how many operators tell people to “calm down.” That’s one thing you never say to someone in panic. I get so angry when I hear 911 operators act like this in these videos, and I hear them act like this often.
When someone's completely panicked the last thing I need is an obtuse 911 operator making smartass remarks.
@@JesusAlfonsoRafael what an ignorant response
They behave in such manner because there’s no accountability for their lack of training and they’re not held accountable for anything. I watch the 911 show and most of them are just not suitable to be in these positions! No sympathy and empathy for someone in desperate need of help or assistance.
Right? The 911 operator lady had a bad tone and almost acted as if the mother was overreacting while seeing her son tied up unconscious. I would've broke the da** windows to get in the house. How sad of a story.
god forbid that 911 operator to get tested with losing her child and expected to calm f...g down. god forbid.
"You hang out with nice people, you get nice friends, you understand? You hang out with smart people, you get smart friends. You hang out with yo-yo people, you get yo-yo friends. You see, it’s simple mathematics."
*Rocky Balboa*
One of many lessons i did learn from this case is to be always cautious of your circle. Never be friends with shady people.
Shady people are fine, steer clear of non whites and addicts
Unfortunately when you’re doing shady shit (like pills/drugs) you end up dealing with shady characters. It sucks. Addiction sucks.
If you don't have a passion for helping people or can't manage to be compassionate then you don't need to be a 911 operator. You can be the last person someone ever talks to. The least you can do is be comforting & have some kind of understanding. Same goes for people who teach, deal with children, doctors, nurses, police etc... If you have no desire to love people and be the best human you can be to others then don't enter these fields.
I was an after hours dispatcher for an answering service. I worked alone, on graveyard shift, handling 6 lines all by myself.
I handled accounts for doctors, dentists, veterinarians, nursing homes, EVERY funeral home on my side of the state, as well as the removal technicians for the ME's office for any unatrended deaths.
To say it could get hectic is an understatement. I was just 24yrs old at the time, a punk rock girl in a Dogpatch hick town, trying to be a good single mom, but my professional standard at work was impeccable.
NOTHING could have made me speak to a caller the way that brain dead dispatcher did!!
When you're the first contact between someone on the line and the HELP they need, you do not *ever* take an attitude with them, and you *NEVER* tell them to calm down!
I had to take a call from a woman who's horse got hit by a jeep. She was screaming incoherently, and I couldn't understand her at all. I maintained a low, clear, calm tone of voice, and asked her to slowly spell the name of the road they were on. She called me a moron, every name in the book (she was SO distraught) but I wasn't about to take it personally. I got her information out, and stayed on the line with her until the police came, even though I didn't have to.
I had to keep putting her on hold to answer other calls, including one to the rendering truck thatvwas going to have to pick up her dead horse, it was so sad.
I volunteered for the Suicide Prevention Hotline, maybe that training helped?
@@widowrumstrypze9705 & I applaud you for that. Being aware enough NOT to take it personal. Sometimes people are in a panic & a state of shock & have no clue of how they're behaving. & in a field like that you have to understand that this person is distraught, like you were aware. We need people like you, who understand. I consider myself a pretty grounded and emotionally stable guy but at the same time I've never had to call 911 to report a dying relative or any kind of shocking event of that nature. I'm a human though & I know how your emotions can completely overtake you. Im glad you responded because it was an inspiration.. So thank you.
@@widowrumstrypze9705 queen, good for you 👑👏👏👏🙏
AMEN 🙏
I totally agree and the crazy part is it seems like it happens all the time.At least 1 out of 5 calls to 911 I hear the operator is ignorant.
The fact that the videos are titled for the victims and NOT the killer is why I'm here to stay !
nice cope. still capitalizing on victims here, sick society all around
@@wenmoon448 it’s actually to honor them by telling their story and not make their killers more famous.
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Are people here really this idiotic? You need exigent circumstances to enter a house without a warrant ! There was none here. You can’t just barge into anyones because of a mothers intuition
@@wenmoon448 Then why are you frequenting the video?
This whole thing is so disturbing. Normal looking people being involved in burglaries, drugs, etc. Two people losing thier life over nothing...nothing! Certain people are destroying society.
The girl Alex is involved and was actually there. When the friend was on the phone with Johnny and heard him say 3 times " Bro, what are you doing" he was saying it to Alex that was at the front door trying to push it open. Then, when Johnny says " Who the hell are you" is when the killer, the guy that Alex brought there to rob and kill them, came out from behind her. Then, the killer pointed a gun at Johnny and tied them both up. Putting the bags on their heads and wrapping duct tape around their necks was absolutely VICIOUS.
This was someone that absolutely HATED these two people. Alex is bat shit crazy and you can tell by her unusual laughing like a damn psychopath. She has absolutely no sadness or concern for these two people. The laughing is absolutely CHILLING. She did it for drugs and money. She didn't take the Iraqi money, because it couldn't be spent without drawing attention.
There is also a big problem with that cigarette butt that was planted at the scene. That cigarette was put out in an ashtray. If they had been standing there smoking it and were done, if they threw it there on the ground they would have either stepped on it to put it out which would have crushed the butt, or if they dropped it still lit it would have burned more and also left a burn mark on the ground. That cigarette butt was 100% planted and probably planted by Alex. Just look at the butt. It is as though someone took it from an ashtray and tossed it right there. The guy in jail is the killer as he knew about the forgien currency. Also, he may have already been sentenced and his goal was to then protect the girl he liked... Alex.
You may be right, but pretty much everyone involved in this case belongs in jail. Definitely think she was involved though
When I broke up with my abusive ex he started relentlessly stalking and harassing me. When he finally brutally attacked me and I was able to get away and call 911 the operator was also very rude. He was super annoyed that I was screaming and had a huge attitude. Like someone was *trying to kill me*. Who hires these people? The incompetence is astounding.
I am sorry to hear that….😔 Pray you are safe and your ex is far, far away!🙏🏼👋🏼🇨🇦
I'm glad you survived 💯🙏
It’s crazy how little compassion these operators have! I got into a car accident (rear ended by an uninsured driver with a suspended license) and was reasonably upset and the dispatcher hung up on me! I’m so sorry you experienced that and I’m happy you got out of that situation
How awful. It is a 999 call. Of course people will be screaming!
Glad you’re here now!
So, from the 911 operator: like I said, we were just out there, and nothing was going on.
Mom: so where are my son and his girlfriend? (The only two people who are supposed to be at the house.)
Dispatcher: ma'am, how am I supposed to know that?
Well, damn, three seconds ago you seemed to know that NOTHING was wrong, right? But now you don't know anything? Whoever that dispatcher is truly needs to be removed from that job. Her casual brush-off and rudeness to the woman were unacceptable.
I was thinking the same thing, she definitely didnt seem to give a damn what the mother was saying
LITERALLY
Yeah that irritated me too. I’m trying to figure out why the cops would not make entry into the home when a child is reported missing and that was the last location they were seen.
I watch videos like this constantly and it angers me to no end the amount of 911 operators seem to be put out or worse speak as if they're aggravated by the callers needing help or their questioning of police findings about their loved ones. Its disgusting, get another job cuz you're in the wrong field
Yeah tht pissed me off as well. Whats crazy is this has been a new thing for about 10 years now. 911 operators hanging up on ppl and dismissing there claims. They need to vet ppl as of now!
These 911 operators always always get me!! Do they not realize these people are in the most scariest moments of their lives and may be a bit anxious when they call?? My woooord. How awful. I can’t imagine what these people went through and their parents, seeing them but not getting to them. Oh how awful!
Don't tell a mother who just saw her presumably murdered son to "calm down" and say "okayyyy" like you're tired of listening to her.
Fucking hell some dispatchers are just lousy...
After listening to all the details of the case I only have one question: how did the cops know that two $20 bills were missing?
I had the same thought!
@@LinwoodBlackmore just like me ...
I thought that also..
Exactly my question 🤷♀️how the hell 🇬🇧
Same???
Telling a person to "calm down" never has the (ostensibly) intended effect.
Right!?! And yet...
Obscenity, you mean? Also, I 100% agree
@@lunaballuna no just ostensibly lol
@@lunaballuna ?? 😂
@@lunaballuna read a dictionary sometime
This is by far one of the most crazy and one of the cases with the most twists and kinda “unanswered questions” that I’ve heard before and I watch a ton of these videos almost all day long tbh.
I have add and keep on getting sidetracked-- what were the biggest questions still left open?
It's a little known story to the world but it would be cool if you would do a story on Joshua Lee Webb. Happened in a small Oregon town on mother's day a few years ago. I know the story because I'm from there, but beyond rumors I've never been able to learn more about what made him do what he did. My dad had just left that store minutes before he came in with his mother's head and stabbed the clerk. And I grew up going to that store seeing that clerk... anyways, would be cool if you ever found the time to do a story on that
ruclips.net/video/08IuDHXeBj8/видео.html
I looked that up, and found this.
I wouldn’t say it’s a little-known story at all. That psycho fuck killed his dog, decapitated his mother, & stabbed a grocery clerk because he’s a schizo. That’s it.
@@tiffanymcintyre8375found what? Nothing? lol
@@dreesemo3323lol, right!
These kids think they are gangsters... just listen to them talk. So sad...
Nah lol this is just how they talk in Toledo
what do you think is "gangster" about the way they talk?
Toledo is full of killers. I’ve lost a lot of friends there.
They are pill popping street trash,...only gangsters in Brooklyn,..Cosa Nostra is all that matters,..Morte Prima Di Disonore
Product Of Their Environment 💯💯💯
419 Ohio ❤️
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The dad ripping off the bags and finding them dead is literally soul crushing. 😢 I hope they sue because they shouldn’t have been the ones to find the bodies.
Is there a Go Fund Me where you and I can donate some cash to them?
The cops were incompetent buffoons obviously. They went to location and didn't see any reason to enter the house? They were worried about covering their own asses, rather than saving the lives of the people inside.
😂
How will money help?
@@pincessdogg5222 dumba**. Go give that money to a homeless person.
One of the best things about getting clean is getting away from some of the people you have to deal with. There's not one person in this case, including the victim, that didn't come off as seedy
I 💯 know where you are coming from. Nice not having the cell phone going off every 2 seconds. Nice to live without having to associate with people you never would people like this to feed a habit..
@joeygold8451 right!
They need to really train these 911 operators correctly. They are so rude and snarky like we’re doing them an injustice. Then they love to tell someone to calm down but if I see my son and his girlfriend on the ground looking dead I’m going to spazz out. They are so disrespectful I can’t
I feel sorry about the mom she has all the right
mum not mom
@@bunnyrabbit936 people in America spell it like that
@@bunnyrabbit936 haha
For real the police didn't do sh#t
@@bunnyrabbit936 wtf is mum? 🤣 like a mummy from a scary movie? It's MOM lol. Im dead af 🤣🤣🤣 why do some ppl change the way they spell a word just because it sounds like that when they say it? So if someone is country and they call flower, "flowuuur" because of their accent does that mean they change the word flower to flowuuur when they write it on paper? Lmao that's how i feel when i see ppl write Mum, like no... That's not even a real word to me. I remember there was this guy who moved here to California were i live and he had MUM tattooed on his neck, ppl at our high school made so much fun of him
That 911 operator was rude and unprofessional. The way she responded to this concerned mother was appalling.
she should be fired.
These responders are the worst!!! They’re absolutely careless!! What if it was her family lying there……..
I used to be a dispatcher. I would never have spoken to ANYONE the way this one did. I always used the old expression that you get more flies with honey. Our job is to get information and diffuse a situation where the caller is frantic so that we can GET the information. I don't know if I'd fire this one, but more training and sensitivity training is definitely warranted here.
Agree
Tough to get proper infos from someone who is screaming. It's that simple 🤦♀️
Disgusting it’s getting to a point were people arnt even gonna bother calling the police anymore
they're absolutely useless and it only seems to get worse as the years go on. Standards are lower and it shows. I attempted to get help from law enforcement for items that were stolen from me worth well over $1,000 on 3 separate occasions and not only did nothing come from it, but they didn't even attempt to contact me about the matter, let alone attempt to investigate. Police are useless. They show up 15 minutes after you need them most, pretend to take notes, tell you "we'll be in contact with you soon" and then fuck off to sit in a parking lot and hand out tickets to law abiding citizens going 10 over.
I woundnt. Seems like a waste of time.
As a person whose lived close to Springfield for 21 years I remember this and it truly was terrifying for the small “safe” country towns around. My family started locking their doors at night then and hasn’t broken the habit since
I hope and pray that 911 operator was fired. Absolutely disgusting. The police were there and did nothing of course she’s freaking out
What did she do to get fired? She's not the reason why the dumb dumb cops did not use their discretion to go into the house.
The "how would i know that ma'am" got me. Like sure it's unlikely she knew where he was but damn a lil sympathy
If the people who are supposed to protect you fail to do so when crime is being committed right in front of them, I'd also be freaked out, even more than that!! The mom sounded composed, I would have sworn and wished so many awful things on the cops
@@Kokola-qh9wp well the fundamental problem is that Americans think the police are here to protect us; that’s a lie. Protect & serve is nothing more than marketing
I said the same exact fucking thing LOL. I would have strangled that 911 operator
The incompetency in this whole case is alarming! I'm sure there could be more arrests made, but not sure they ever will, because of all the ineptitude.
The victims caused their own deaths. In cases like this the police tend to not try as hard.
Nadine So very true.
@@nealkelly9757 are u victim blaming fr?
@@nealkelly9757will you show me the time stamp where its stated that the two deceased people here, tied bags around their own heads, tied each other’s hands, and decided to lay there and die? I just don’t remember hearing anything even remotely like that, if you could fill us in, that would be a huge help thanks chief
@@kd7100 The violent act is no way their fault. You’re claiming they have not accountability in this situation…they weren’t randomly selected there chief. They played the game of “fuck around and find out” with known dangerous criminals. It doesn’t justify murder, it’s not a case of “got what they deserved” it’s a tragic and horrible crime. The victims are not responsible for what happened but acting like they didn’t willingly place themselves in this situation you’re delusional. You think they were skipping down the street signing church hymns and were plucked out at random? Get the fuq outta here.
I came here as tonight as the ID TV Channel had a TV show called “Calls from the Inside” about these murders. But very little background on all the couples so-called friends. But you guys covered the whole story. Very sad.
Thank you for NOT interrupting the interrogation with your "analysis" ..much appreciated
"You need to calm down"
Probably the most fucked up shit you can tell a mother in a situation like that. Especially the tone this dispatcher had on her. It already makes me as an outsider extremely angry... Can't imagine what the mother must've felt like.
I was so mad! I hope she found a new job
You guys do realize that that's the way they are trained to handle emergency calls.
It makes me feel sick listening to this idiotic 911 operator. Y’all heard it, I don’t need to reiterate her bad behavior. What I will say is that her actions make me feel violent! And I’m not violent. This poor mother being told essentially to control herself because it was upsetting to the operator. I can’t even. I hope this lady never has to endure something this horrific. Not to mention these people need to be liable for their actions on the phone calls.
They are truly horrible. There is a case here on youtube where a woman was abducted and she somehow managed to scrape for the phone and call 911 to report she was either in a car trunk, or in a dumpster I don't remember exactly, and the operator hung up on her because she decided it's a prank call. Unbelievable.
@DeenaMarie my sentiments exactly. I'm not a violent person, had never been. Until hearing things like this, my immediate reaction is 🤬🤬🤬
I had to pause after the 911 call back. The operator (who has the CAPACITY TO HELP) tells a distraught mother "don't yell at me". How do I find the words to expressed how angry and disregarded I feel for his mom!
God, help his family because I feel like crying on my way to work as I listen to this. WHAT ON EARTH IS HIS MOMMA FEELING RIGHT NOW?!?
I came across a case where the victim calls 911 while being killed and this fkn dispatcher didn't take the poor woman call for HELP seriously. So the heffa finally sent police to the address but they only knocked a couple of times and left, only to be discovered by her mom dead in a tub of water that flooded the entire house smh. I mean you could actually hear her being strangle.
get some help, you have issues
@30:34 I really gotta kick out of that… “so who’s the Tony’s you knows?” Classic!
I’m only 7 minutes in and that 911 operator has me livid! I hope she got fired and is living w/an intense amount of guilt and shame.
Me too. I had to stop listen to it. And write some angry comments!
I thought that I was the only one. Hopefully that operator is no longer employed for the Sheriff's Department. It broke my heart to hear the hurt in the mother's voice.
Same with the cops who checked on the house!
I keep reading comments in the hope that this woman was fired but not found anything yet 😡.
The 911 responder speaking to Johnny’s mother was sooo rude.
Most, not all, 911 dispatchers are impatient and callous.
I thought the same thing, put yourself in that mothers place, she had every right to tell and be upset and it’s the dispatchers job to get her help not get defensive
She could have had a bit of a better tone, but the lady almost sounded like a Karen.
@@AlexAndra-iy5zu
You know all 911 operators on the planet?
Have you even ever called 911???
Your generalizing and assuming...
and that is dumb.
It's like me saying everyone named Alex leaves dumb comments...
Right?! I don't understand why some people take these jobs when they have zero compassion!!
I have a feeling that Tiffany definitely knows more than she said. She knows something. I hope someone with “good heart” calls the police and tells something, because they didn’t get the “bad guys” in this story.
Pregnant and looking for "pills". Pure class.
These shows are the best I could watch these all day
Yikes, 911 operator Instructing people to calm down, typically has the reverse effect. It’s a paradoxical fact. usually better to resist ordering people to change their emotional state. Bad training on their part.
It's really basic psychology.
"your son is tied up potentially dead ? calm down."
there's a way to tell someone to calm down that doesn't drip with condescension like how that completely unprofessional nitwit did it holy heck.
I tell my husband that! I say, "Never in the history of calming down has anyone ever calmed down by simply telling them to calm th down!" I'm not trying to make light of your point..it's just so exactly right
The nerve of some operators 😠
This whole group seems messed up and toxic. A bunch of young people dating, partying, using drugs, neglecting animals, fighting, having kids.
Pick decent friends and stay away from drugs. It’s too dangerous. I hope all who were involved in killing them is brought to justice one day.
Two young lives should not have ended.
Exactly my thought
Welcome to Toledo
That was my thought! Some "friends!" Stealing from each other... screwing each other over... robbing each other's houses... neglecting pets and kids... drugging and partying, and now killing. Nice crowd!
My thought exactly. Not that anyone deserved to be murdered, but the older I get, the less I sympathize for people who screw up their lives with STUPID decisions
As someone who used to run in crowds like that, they aren’t your “friends” at all. They’re you’re user “friends”, your party “friends”. Very, very few of them actually care about you.
Tiffany seems a little bit suspicious to me if she really did wait 2 hours and suggesting that from what she heard, Johnny knew the intruders which is the exact opposite of what Johnny's words suggested. If he knew who it was that was there, he wouldn't need to ask "who are you? What do you want?" Seems to me that perhaps these "friends" aren't very good ones. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
Question, Johnny’s mom said he was unconscious in the basement, weren’t they found in the kitchen?
Yes! I heard that!
Johnny was a good friend of mine for years, I met Lisa a few times and got along with her very well. What happened to them is very tragic and some people in the community still think the entire truth hasn’t been revealed.
Sorry for your loss of a friend. 🙏🏾
Sorry to hear about your friends terrible murder. Just out of curiosity do people believe that the right man is in jail? Clearly there were more people involved then just the 1 guy that's in prison. Sadly by the sound of it 1 man got away with murder since he was found not guilty and now can not be charged with the same crime again. This whole case is just messed up and extremely sad.
Man I'm sorry to hear, it's an absolute tragedy and I can't imagine how terrified they were going through that:(
Sorry about your friend Johnny, absolutely awful way to die and so young. After watching the video I think you are right, I don't think that the whole truth has been told, and maybe they don't even have the right person, but unless someone steps up and tells the truth then it will probably stay buried, I think there are people walking around free who had a hand in this. I hope the families find some peace.
As you knew them, what would be your truth towards this story, situation or circumstance?
Sitting here watching this with my cousin who is a local Sheriff's Deputy & he made an excellent point.
If we were required to obtain insurance you would see a lot less incidents of police negligence, brutality & over reach in cases. Think about it, doctors need malpractice insurance, your employer need workman's compensation insurance, drivers need auto insurance etc. And what do these mandatory insurances do? They keep you check. They force personal accountability for your actions & their direct effect on others. As officers we don't have that, not individually. If we f*ck up it typically doesn't come out of our pocket so as the old saying goes 'It's no skin off our nose'. What do we get? Paid leave. Now you tell me how accountable anyone is going to be for their own actions if the result of screwing up is a paid vacation. We get time to actually GO on vacation or do Jack sh*t.
If those cops had insurance that would hold them accountable how do you think those 1st 2 911 calls would've been answered?"
@Sage Nero yep! Our tax dollars are always hard at work for the good old government!
AMEN 🙌
Would it have made any difference though? If they got into the house an hour or two earlier? It sounds like those two were dead right after the thugs left, or probably died while they were still searching through the house?
@@bobbeezel2593 he’s referring to incidents of incompetence in general, not just this case.
Honestly this is exactly why we should start making some examples out of some of these worthless pieces of garbage. Forget insurance. I'm thinking we should go a little harder than that.
The way the police and operator….. both had HUGE mistakes in a life or death situation. I hope those parents sued… not that any amount of settlement would begin to repay what they lost. My condolences to all of them. 💗
I'm so glad I got off pills. Haven't taken a narcotic in over 4 years.
This is horrific. I pray for those parents, I couldn't imagine going through this. I hope they found a way to cope and keep going through life the best way they can
I couldnt even imagine omg!!
@TMCS 7 u
There’s no way I’d be able to cope the way they weee killed
The whole time I was thinking about Lisa’s parents and who had to tell them the news when they got off the cruise. I couldn’t imagine dancing on a conga line, drowning in pina coladas at the very moment my daughter and her boyfriend are being murdered in my home. I wouldn’t have been able to go in that house ever again.
This is hilarious. No matter what is won't bring back some dead bitch XD
No sympathy from that 911 operator....shes so rude..... Ofcouse the mom is freaking out and desperate to help her son, its the 3rd 911 call....& now she's LOOKING AT her son unconscious and tied up.....Come on 😣
That was my instant thought "what an absolute bitch" you could hear the sheer panic and utter despair in Johnny's mum's voice, the pleading and begging for help, there is no doubt at all from her voice on just how serious and time sensitive the situation was and yet that 911 operator just didn't give a shit.
I hope really hope she lost her job but it's probably unlikely as law enforcement and their kin seem to get away with so much but if someone in the public farts to loud and it smells all wrong will instantly be arrested and charged, it's a very unfair system sometimes.
R.I.P Johnny and Lisa I hope so much that true justice and ALL the people involved in this horrific murder are held accountable.
I couldn't stand her tone. Very unprofessional.
It's not her job to sympathize. She has to do what she has to do to keep the conversation moving forward to get all the information she can get. There's others people's lives on the line
@@CourtneyTunbridge79 idk where you're from but u clearly aren't in America. U must be in North Korea
@@JGriffin5150 but the operator did not do that. She was short, with an attitude. This operator should be used as what not to do in a situation.
"How'd my name get brought into this?"
"Science, b*tch!"
911 operator needs to be fired, having attitude when people are in the worst moments of their life means you do not have the basic attributes to do the role.
What absolute shoddy work from the police and 911 operator. How DARE she talk to that mother like that. Welfare check?? What welfare check?? They didn't even attempt to check inside the house. Just left. Shoddy and shameful.
They hire these people off the streets
It is ridiculous. In the UK they would break down the door
That was the cops..not the dispatcher
I truly hope the new true crime craze has shed some much needed light in the incompetency of far too many 911 workers
Oh my gosh! I just posted about that!! She tells the mom to calm down!!! What a waste of life.
Omg I know! I get so pissed off at how rude these people are to people that are in panic! If you get this annoyed with people DONT have a career that involves you having to take care of them
In there worse moments and I’m looking at you doctors ,nurses and police as well as the 911 find a new career
yea 911 operators are the worst
I’ve been saying that for a while now. I’m glad other people agree with me
@Lisa Anderson…. Soooo spot on!!! 👏🏼❤️
… so who killed Anthony Watson???
Obviously it could be unrelated, but putting the idea out to the police that Williams and two others killed those two probably didn’t help his situation much.
It may have been retaliation for that.
THE AUDACITY OF THE OPERATOR TO TELL THE MOM TO CALM DOWN AFTER SHE CALLED EARLER AND THE SAME OPERATOR TOLD HER SHE HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!
I do have to say that what I like best about this true crime show is the fact that condolences and deepest sympathies are proffered to the victims and to their families that had to endure such devastation and grief for the loss of their loved ones. This is a very respectful and gratuitous way to begin a show that seeks the truth and tries to the very best of its ability to present us with the facts of the case.
I like that too. Very respectful.
Well spoken and i agree.
They only do it so that the video is less likely to be demonetized.
I don't think the word you want is gratuitous. That usually means unnecessary vulgarity
@@plutonium2 Exactly, I think OP meant to write gracious, perhaps.
I have heard about this case. So disturbing that the police were out there twice and did nothing. I am so very sorry for the families loss. Absolutely horrifying.
Worst interrogator ever!!!! Won't let anyone talk, period. Stop interrupting!!!!!
It gets really irritating hearing these dispatchers telling those who are in a crisis, to calm down and also to constantly repeat themselves. If someone is about to be killed, saw someone get shot or killed, their home is broken into and their hiding. Their fight or flight has kicked in. Reason left the room.
It’s so sad the family had to find them like that. I can’t even imagine… and then having to deal with that rude operator. Ugh.
They were so young:
Victoria : So very true. These 911 operators need to be schooled/trained so much better!!
Absolutely. That made me so mad! They called police twice at least, and then AFTER cops left twice saying nothings wrong, the family had to do what cops wouldn't... find their dead bodies. That mom had every right to scream about cops didn't do anything, get them back out there now. Operator shouldn't have been rude.
The incompetency level my the "authorities" in almost all these cases is unbelievable.
What are they paid for?..
Thank you for telling the truth about this constant travesty!
@TMCS lol same. It's called credulous girl.
@@IosebDzhugashvili thanks 😊 found it (anzem-credulous gal)
Sometimes I think we could find and do better then investigators I know they gotta follow protocol but shit don't sit seem right a lot of the time
You have to take into consideration all the calls police get that turn out to be nothing. You can't break down someone's door just because a loved one isn't answering their call or because the car is in the driveway and they aren't answering the door. That would be invasion of privacy. If police do not see signs of a break in or that someone is in immediate danger they can't just break into someone's house. I worked in property management for years and when police would show up to do a wellness check at the request of a family member we were not allowed to let them into the property without cause or permission by a lease holder. Almost every wellness call I had resulted in the person being ok, they just didn't respond, for whatever reason to the family member trying to contact them.
What a terrible mess. I've been following true crime for a while now, and I had to watch this video twice, just so I could wrap my head around it all.
That 911 operator would no longer be operating...at all
I have a lot of respect for this channel. I haven’t seen too many other channels like this that consistently pay respects to the victims and their families. The fact that you made a decision to pay those respects and not just use these lives for content speaks volumes.
So very true !!!
8MCI does this too. I appreciate it
I hurt so much for the Dad. To have to be the one not only kick the door in because of the shit police, but then the sight of them taped up in a basement with bags over there faces. Horrific. Then he rips the bag to see the dead face of his son. I couldn't fathom. Peaceful vibes to that family.
If i had just said “the police were already there and nothing was going on” right before the caller says they can see their child tied up unconscious, I would feel so bad I would be begging for forgiveness not belittling them and telling them to calm down. Calm down for what at this point? It’s too late for rational action, so who benefits from calming down in this situation? Can’t imagine having that big of an ego in the face my own incompetence.
I really hope that 911 operator was fired. She handled that poor mother's phone call with absolutely no sympathy, no urgency, nor professionalism. Who does that??!?? 3 minutes in and I'm getting super angry. REST IN PEACE TO THESE YOUNG LIVES, TAKEN BY PURE EVIL. I pray that their families continue to heal. There's nothing worse than finding the lifeless body of a loved one. My hear breaks for them. 😢
there really needs to be some kind of Professional School that dispatchers have to get certified in before they can work. it used to be a pretty honorable position within law enforcement. now they think that they're oh so special and they poop roses. they are mean to people and don't even get the story straight A lot of the time. the dispatcher in this one should be fired!😡
They don't care that they are the start of the case and what the send to the police is so important
I remember being a victim of a crime and we had to seek help from Victim Support, a helpline for those who have been victims. The woman was an ex police officer and she was so rude with no empathy I put a complaint in about it. I also saw on Victim Support's Employer Reviews online that there was loads of bullying. amongst staff
@@beaulieuonnp593 I'm very sorry you had that experience. I had to be in a women's shelter due to domestic abuse back in 2000. while I am happy that I had shelter and was safe I found the staff to be so cold and detached.I realize the people that work in those facilities and dispatchers deal with crisis all the time and they have to establish some layer of protection to themselves so they don't implode. there has to be a good balance for sure.
blessings to you and your loved ones 🙏
A lot of holes in this, but one thing that is 100% certain- that 911 operator is a horrible person for the the job
what’s missing within the story?
It not about the operatore. About the killer.
What type people are u?????
The operator needs to find a new job, anything but taking emergency calls..
These 911 operators need to be re-trained every 6 months or once a year. This is so sad. How could she calm down when she can see that her son and his girlfriend are tied up and unconscious in the basement??? Smh
Have to give that detective some serious props, everyone had him running in circles and he kept his mind on finding out the truth. He needs a raise!!!!!
I don’t think he found the truth at all.
Detective was awful. His bluff with not having the girl on camera at the bar was such bad acting on his part
Lol, no. He completely tanked. They didn't really prove anything. The cigarette could've been from any time. All those people were sketchy as hell, so even their reactions don't really mean much. Meanwhile, that Alex character is definitely hiding something, they didn't really look into her much at all. Horrible police work...
The Dad had to do the cops job, and so tragically had to be the one to find his sons body and rip the plastic bag off his head, and find out its too late to save them. Police were there twice and yet it took the family's efforts to look in the window and see bodies! I feel for the Mother and Father! Tragic on so many levels!
The dad wasn't doing the cops job. You do realize that police cannot legally break into peoples homes just because they are asked too, right? The family seeing the bodies through the window is a complete lie. The police had their hands tied because of the law, which is why (as they were leaving) they told the dad to kick in the door himself to search.
@@Roland_Deschain677 If the parents lied of peeking to the curtain how did they find the bodies? Your claim didn’t match the real crime scene
@@jomontanee My claim doesn't match the real crime scene? 5:11 and I quote, "Before officers could arrive, Mr Clarke kicked in the front door." Have another piece of evidence to back up my "claim". 4:35 During the 911 call the mother states several times that she peeked through the window and saw them tied up in the basement and yet they were found to be in the kitchen on the first floor. Her stating they are in the basement once could be overlooked due to the situation, but several times? 4:25 They then change the story to Dad lifting the Mom's cousin up to peer through a slat in the windows. So yes, I believe that since the cops couldn't legally enter the home they told the family to do it if they really believed something bad had happened and deal with the consequences if nothing had happened.
@@Roland_Deschain677 If the cops had been doing their job they would have found the open window, looked inside, and seen the crime scene. Maybe in time to save them.
@@lil-al There was no open window. That is the whole point behind my comment.
There's too many emergency phone workers that SHOULDNT BE IN THE JOB!!!!!!!!🙄🙄🤬🤬🤬
I totally understand why the cops can't just break into a house because something is reported, but sometimes I really, really wish they could. If you don't answer the door, the cops can't come in.
The side door was broken into, the police should have checked all entrances before leaving.
Alex DEFINITELY had something to do with it. I knew when she was laughing throughout her questioning with police. Chilled me to the bone.
I think she's tweaking. But yes, I think the group from the party discussing the safe were all in on it. Junkies are all looking for quick cash.
Im 13 min in. That sounds like mental illness, manic behavior.
Never trust someone that will purposely abuse a puppy.
mhmm
The number one answer right here.
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That dispatcher is in the wrong job.She should have treated the situation with more concern and urgency. If a dispatcher gets a call for the same address,it should be cause for more action.
I watched a few videos on the "Explore With Us" channel and the creators on that network don't seem to care much about the victims, but the Beyond Evil Network begin with condolences and name their videos after the victims and genuinely seem to care. Much, MUCH better! You have yourself a subscriber!
I cannot imagine finding my loved ones like this!! Thats horrible.......🤧😪
And then being told to calm down by the 911 operator......smh 😣
@@512erika what u want to do, she is the operator being busy with such kind of calls.
@@senaymichael4936 No mother, under any circumstance, should be told to calm down as she just discovers the lifeless body of her son. Especially after making multiple calls for help
I don't know why someone so cold and indifferent would get work as a 911 operator. This is the worst moment's of some people's lives. They can get the facts quick while still being understanding and kind.
This is the most confusing case I think I've ever heard.
Loving your channel you deal with very disturbing topics with detailed accuracy but you always show respect to the victims which is always appreciated with this type of genre.
Love your channel!
I'm the kind of guy who, if I got murdered, people would say "I don't know why anyone would want to kill him"....and that's starting to worry me.
Better start making some enemies dude, at least that way we'll have a lead 😁🤷🏾♀️ xx
@@nesultimate3854 very witty.😁👌
@@nesultimate3854 That's sound advice, haha!
@@nesultimate3854 😂🤣😂
Just don't brag about an exorbitant amount of money you keep in a safe at your house and you should be fine
All over pills - that’s the take away from this story. Don’t get involved with the pills, or the people they attract. 🚫💊
Or dope
fix the system that creates addicts.
childhood trauma is the gateway to drug use.
Finally someone who posts about the cause.
Money attracs more people.
I remember hearing if this on the local news ..so sad. You told their story quite well
Omg the interrogator is embarrassing himself
The 911 dispatcher was pretty snarky to the poor mom. I know their jobs aren’t easy but that dispatcher showed now sympathy
That job is the main reason she shouldn’t have answered that way, rude. Not even at a grocery story you get people responding to you that way let alone a mother worried for her kid
Rofl @ mom. Americans are so thick.
That operator needs to be let go Indefinitely. Hope she was or has been
People like that Shouldn’t have that kind of job
@@samdoors5132 she’s a Despicable human. And it’s sad because it’s not the first second even third operator I’ve heard and some of the stories who is like that
Many of them are like that, I bet she gets good targets because she deals with calls quickly... bet she is still there
@@beaulieuonnp593I bet she is to
Why do 911 operators always sound like they're being inconvenienced by frantic callers? After finding out it is indeed an emergency, the first words out of their mouth should be "Someone is on the way!" THEN start asking questions.
The 911 dispatcher was horrible at her job, the responding cops were horrible at their job, the lead detective was horrible at their job. Imagine being that incompetent at your job and still keeping it. Only law enforcement and goverment employees can do that.