TESTED: Android Apps on Windows 11!
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Windows 11 launched without one of its most anticipated features - Android apps via the Amazon Appstore! Now it’s finally here. Should you though?
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0:00 Intro
0:50 How Does it Work?
3:00 Sideloading
4:45 Why Bother?
6:50 Conclusion
8:06 Outro 
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Here's hoping that Android Studio can deploy to it and run apps in it directly without having to build and deploy manually.
I tried it with a Flutter app my team was working on, it shows up as Pixel 5 on Android Studio and yes it can run the app
I already doing this! I running both anything of Android and Android Studio actually natively! I got the cheap 250$ Lenovo laptop, and it's all running just great!
The main thing - It's not Windows.
Even though I still able to run the Windows apps too, and natively
that would be really handy for devs
edit: typo
Since it can connect via ADB, it'll work.
@@GameCyborgCh even impossible for Microsoft. They're not doing techs, they doing business, that's not Business.
This could be huge for streaming services where they intentionally make the desktop experience bad. For example Hulu will not play above 480p on desktop
Same as Disney+
why? piracy?
Nope, DRM not supported at WSA.
Imagine if we could do the same for android. Finally being able to use spotify (desktop) on android instead of the shitty mobile version would be amazing
Just stream Hulu on microsoft edge or use the app in the windows store.
Year 2000: Man it would be awesome to use PC programs on my mobile phone
Year 2022: Man....what if we could use these apps on my mobile phone, on my PC?
Golden xD
Already can be done
In my case, i found it really useful to control my smart lamps. It's really annoying that Google Home / Samsung Smartthings don't have a browser/desktop app to control your devices. You are forced to use your phone. Besides, I only wanted to install the smart lamps app so a full-fledged Android emulator such as Bluestacks seemed a bit too much. For that matter, sideloading the APK to WSA worked flawlessly and I find it really convenient to have a desktop shortcut to directly launch the Android app.
I agree, but Ive found a solution.
Im using a small Github Project that is bringing Google Assistant to Windows.
Work like a charm and I can trigger it with a hotkey and speak to it or I can text
This! Being able to access smart home things directly from your desktop could be really convenient! Can't wait :)
You can use IFFIT and Wayscript to have a link where when clicked a action activates. In this cause use PS2EXE to make a invoke powershell shortcut. Or just use Huestro from Microsoft Store.
I have Google Wi-Fi and I can also use on.here in my browser.
Okay but, as we know, Microsoft trying to fusion all of the computer settings in ONE unique menu, without the nessecity to access to the control panel just to change one thing that is not in the settings menu.
I think that is cool, windows 11 starts faster than the 10 (because it's running on a very customized Linux kernal)
It's nicer (visually)
It's not a Windows 7 rip-off anymore (because the windows 10 was Windows 7 with nicer graphics *reminds me something huh* and better functionnalities and windows 7 menus)
@@azrael-labs windows 11 doesnt run on linux what are you saying
I remember that bluestacks was a privacy nightmare, downloading and installing random apps in the background and leaving files behind even after uninstalling. I used nox for a while, but it lacked some features, and i am really sad that andy is dead now, but this looks sort of promising. It might finally be worth it now to install windows 11 on a vm.
i haven't used bluestacks but i have used nox and it does the same thing you're saying bluestacks does, don't know how you missed that
i switched to memu and it was good for a while but it's gotten shady now too, there really isn't a good option anymore
@@JohnDCrafton well i used nox on macOS, which at the time did not have nearly as many updates as the windows version.
As far as i remember nox did not try to install random apps or connect to weird servers that were not required for the application that was running. And i am not sure if it would leave files as i uninstalled it using an app-cleaner and then looking for other files myself, but found nothing that was not removed already.
I have not heard of memu, but it has a release archive so you could try to install some older version that is not as shady.
nox is just awesome, wsa sucks. I play cod on nox
@@spewp Frankly, Android's only upside is that it isn't Apple. Apple is less actively invasive when it comes to privacy, but is more actively malicious in most other respects. (just straight Linux based tablets and phones aren't really average-consumer ready yet, and Windows is.. .. .. well, it Might be less bad than apple or google, depending on Exactly what you prioritize...)
As far as I know, there are zero Android emulators out there that are free of PUPs, adware and tracking and everything. Some have crypto miners, and most are difficult if not impossible to uninstall. WSA is not perfect yet, but it's runs many apps and it works incredibly well overall. You can install it pretty easily on unsupported hardware as well. I'm running it flawlessly on Ryzen 1, a CPU that neither WSA nor Windows 11 supports. For the sake of your privacy, it's definitely worth a shot.
My main gripe against Win 11 & most modern applications is that everything starts being hidden behind submenus, even some simple things "Refresh" in Win 11, just for the sake of looking nice but usability taking a big hit
It can be disabled with registry and many tuning apps do it with one click
@@TorchCTI Might as well just downgrade at that point
@@TorchCTI Remember when everybody hated 10's new UI so bad, there was a whole cottage industry for making tools to restore as much of Windows 7's UI as possible?
That's because Windows peaked with 7 and it was all downhill from there. Take the penguin pill.
@@angolin9352 if the steam deck really does make Linux gaming viable then I just might make the switch
@@angolin9352 I would disagree, but as someone who has used windows 10 my whole life (except for the few times I’ve used 7) I’ve got to say Windows 7 was pretty good, however, I personally prefer Windows 10 in most cases (except when I have to deal with uninstalling apps or disabling features)
This is actually a great addition which wasn't really put in the spotlight in this video. Once ARM will become more common in windows computers, we'll be able to use a whole another library of apps which run seamlessly natively on ARM, the Google play store. Kind of actually having a dual boot of Windows and android
I'm not so sure ARM will become that common for Windows but I could be wrong. Backwards compatibility has always been huge on Windows and is responsible for a lot of it's quirks. More games (and other apps) are being made to work on both ARM and x86_64 though. AMD64 (the _64 part) is already based on RISC (the same thing ARM is based on) and even a lot of x86 functions are actually running in a RISC like configuration so power efficency of x86_64 has improved a lot granted it's still not to the level of ARM. That said ARM is designed to run on 5V@2A or about 10Watts which is great for power efficiency but obviously sacrifices a bit in terms of raw performance.
You reminded me of the photo editing software that I lost when I did a clean install a while ago, Thank you.
Sucks that this isn't compatible with Surface Go. Its tiny size would be perfect for this
What why? You can literally install WSA on any computer
@@topg2820 I tried installing from the Microsoft Store but got a message saying my CPU was unsupported. Are you saying there's another way to install WSA?
@@colororb4105 yes, just search 'how to install WSA", you basically have to download the WSA package file and install it using Powershell, my old af FX6300 pc is already running WSA lol
@@topg2820 Hold up. Some Surface Go devices are running in "S Mode" by default. This is a pared-down version of Windows for tablets and netbooks that would choke on a regular Windows install. However, if Windows is in S Mode, you can *only and exclusively* install UWP apps from the app store (and potentially Intune). You cannot install or run anything that uses a .MSI, .EXE, etc. Furthermore you cannot even access CMD, Powershell, MMC snap-ins, etc.
Switching out of S Mode is possible but is a one-way process and irreversible without recovery media for a fresh install. Doing so on a Surface Go with a low-end mobile Pentium and inadequate RAM would mean you may be stuck with a full copy of Windows that runs terribly in low-end hardware.
I didn't got it to work either, tried to manually do it. I can install apps but I only get a grey window and nothing happens
You can actually install Google Services on Windows Subsystem for Android using WSAGAScript.
I tried installing the play services apps using apkmirror and it didn't work right. the apps installed, but couldn't function.
i'm interested to try wsagascript
If linustechtips makes a video about this Microsoft has the right to DMCA the project on GitHub
@@deadringr Doesn't Microsoft own GitHub?
@@wta1518 yes but not the content hosted there, if they cover it it becomes big enough to move from proof of concept to widely distributed software and therefore is worth the time and the money to take it down
@@deadringr I know that they don't own the content, but them owning the site means that they don't necessarily need to go the DMCA route, they could just make up some bullshit TOS violation.
Great video, anthony ftw. Was wondering what thw keyboard you have in front of you.Keep up the good work
to me Protonmail, which I've been using for a few years on Android, Windows and Linux all run and appear and operate identically. The only difference ( and between the three there is) would be the interface, they all still run without difficulty, in the same easy manner.
sideloading is easier with wsa managers you can find on github and on the microsoft store, no android studio required only adb drivers
Yeah but that would have to be googled
@@andrebanha8408 oh no the horror
adb install , doesn't get much easier than this
Does it work on win 10?
wouldnt be surprised if the incorporate an arm cpu into future chips at some point to interconnect devices more
Such a fantastic presentation! Can't get enough of Andy!
This is great news! Maybe pro level apps may make a comeback on Android. If you can just develop for arm and run on either m1 or android or Windows without everyone requiring arm machines it could mean the dawn of high quality apps on Android tablets.
The main issue (which had a solution) that I faced was:
I had to buy some apps on Windows that were free on Android, so I used an emulator(BlueStacks).
Well you privateered an emulator because BlueStacks is a paid product
@@DantalionNl no.. it's not
What apps do you use? I'm still not seeing how any of the this is useful
Amongus
@@alexdavis9324 I personally use it for snapchat it's where my girlfriend likes to message me and it's annoying to pull out my phone all the time
As someone who aslo uses regularily an android compatibility layer (my daily driver smartphone runs a GNU/Linux flavor - SailfishOS by Jolla - and I use their official container based Android compatibility - Alien-Davlik), I would strongly advise considering MicroG as a solution to get (something compatible with) Google Services. It's good enough for most common apps.
Anthony's LTT store bit was so smooth, it was butter.
Cool, side note though, I wouldn't recommend doing 2FA on the same device. Why? Well it's literally there to protect your account, so say someone was mirroring your screen, they might see 1 part of the login, but no the whole thing.
Looking forward to the Antec story, loved Antec gear back in the day. First major manufacturer who cared about quiet computing
I bought an Antec PSU a year ago, it's been great so far with a fairly low wattage system, is it not the same Antec that was in my PC in 2006?!
Chris D it is the same one. I'm running an Antec 650W psu as well.
Reminds me of the days of testing Project Astoria
Almost nostalgic now
While you might install the 2FA App on Windows 11's Android subsystem, this undermines the security of 2FA, as only one factor/device (the PC) has to be compromised from the attacker perspective.
Exactly what I was going to say 😂
Yes, but the stupid part is that for some reason everyone treats 2FA as impenetrable, when in fact it actually makes it HARDER to recover your own data. If you're walking down the street, unlock your phone, and someone runs by and grabs it, they now have access to your email, and can just reset all your passwords, and also have the 2FA app(s)/# to lock you out of things. Hell, a bank can't even call you about fraudulent purchases, and you can pay for things (lots of people have SOME way to pay for things on their phone easily).
TLDR: You already only need to take control of one device, because most people have a primary email on their phone which controls everything already. Moving things further in this direction is absolutely not helping.
That was really dumb coming from Anthony of all people.
@jrcowboy1099 I think you’re missing something here. First of all it is called 2-Factor-Auth. Therefore, any sane implementation would require you to enter a password or some other first step of authentication before looking at the second factor. From there, you are *still* authenticating. Provided that the phone isn’t in an unlocked state, it will still request a biometric (fingerprint or face) or a simple pin.
The point about your phone being a single point of failure is true though. If someone has your phone and it’s pin/password you’re in trouble.
But, you must remember “everyone wants to be more secure, as long as it isn’t an inconvenience”. What I mean is that 2FA strikes a strong balance between adding a layer of security that kicks back an array of attacks, whilst also not being too tedious. The process of taking their phone out and pushing on the screen in some fashion is reasonable enough for most. If it was more complicated than this, people would simply disable the feature due to its inconvenience, or find a work around to using it that is less secure… which brings us into the core subject:
By placing your 2FA app on your PC without any reasonable extra auth layer to get into it (like a separate password protection, decentralised OTP, PGP etc.) removes the extra required step required if the attacker wants to gain access to your account. But for some, 2FA is tedious. If that’s the case… I guess the world needs to start thinking of yet more ways to make peoples lives easier 😂
This is sorta true, but remember the second factor is "what you have". It totally can be your PC instead of your phone. Think about it this way: If you only use your phone (say you log into your email account or buying stuff from amazon) then you have the exact same problem (you have your passwords on the phone and the authenticator is also on your phone).
Ultimately though, the extra security you gain from 2FA is pretty much negligible. Yes, it prevents people from simply stealing your passwords, but so does a normal password manager. It prevents people from claiming they are support and need your password, but then again, if you just never tell your password to anyone you'd also prevent that.
The only thing smoother than that segue to the couchripper pillow is the segue back to the main topic
Worth to mention that to enable google support you could easily install Google play services or MicroG along side aurora store or google play store (by side loading it)
Or just use MagiskOnWSA which makes Google services dependent apps work and add root
Krita is also a solid option for a free art based app, but it would be a higher learning curve than moving sliders around. I just wanted to at least put Krita as a honorable mention in the comments.
also it's open source
Krita is also available on windows though
For Photo editing I recommend Darktable. It is also Open Source.
Gimp is better
I personally use a mix of krita and gimp for photo editing
Anthony has developed into a superb presenter, a legend on LTT, I always watch when Anthony is hosting.
Could come in handy at some point, so glad it's there. Hopefully it will be easy to use the Google services with this soon.
Snapseed is awesome for picture touch up. I would prefer that on PC vs most others
I have already tried this and it's kinda shitty right now with stability issues and an allover okay-ish experience, I do hope it runs better in the future though
Yeah it'll be better ig
@@kunjupulla no it won't. You're just fooled another, while the real men doing real things
i hope win11 works better in future 💀.
the new wifi + volume and start menu is very bad. aslo it seems they have old cmd + powershell pretending to be cmd. idk why they did it.
edit: all the animations on win 11 feel cluncky and unnatural. I would stay on 10 for a long time if I knew that I couldn't revert back after a certain period. 😭
@@googlelord1678 no it won't. Windows will die earlier
@@valerafox7795 I don't get you.
Most interesting part of the video was the talk about antec. I want to watch that
Great video! Photoshop express is free in the Microsoft store I believe tho
Installed the Google play store on windows 11 a week ago and have been using it to allow me to run the destiny companion app on my pc so I can grab Bounties direct from the pc instead of always having to reach for my phone.
It's not hard at all to replace the Amazon setup for a Google play store setup.
The fat guy is a little slow.
@@dlewis9760he’s not really fat
@@coolsingaporean3413 he is just "fluffy" 😂
@@Satoru-Gojo agreed
@@coolsingaporean3413 ..
Another thing I hope will happen thanks to this is better streaming experiences. The only streaming platform that supports 4K HDR on PC is Netflix and it requires you to download a (paid) plugin to use. Disney + and amazon prime only has 1080p with no HDR if you download the apps on windows store. And forget about HBO max as they neither have an UWP app and even limit the resolution to 720p on the browser version (which prime, disney + and netflix also does TBF). So using the android versions of these services is the best option to take advantage of these features on PC.
Pretty sure you still need widevine L1 support, I'm not sure if WSA supports that. But from what I've seen WSA shows up as a Pixel phone
@@HoloScope Exactly. This will never happen because WSA is missing DRM support. Adding any support would be a security nightmare for anyone that cares about DRM. Your best bet is probably a Samsung phone and plugging it into a TV using Samsung DeX. (I feel like they discontinued that though, but I can't remember. My older Galaxy S8 has it.)
You dont need to pay for HDR, what are you talking about. You just need a compatible HDR Screen and also. D+ and Amazon just dont give you 4K with a second screen connected. Dont ask why.
Just disable it and it works with 4K and HDR even inside the browse
There are modded apks that can be side loaded that do not require widevine l1 support. I used them when running android on the raspberry pi 4 and they worked pretty good.
@@AngryApple On Microsoft store, in order for Netflix to enable HDR, you need to download HEVC which is an app you have to pay for. It used to be free but then they decided to charge for it for some reason. And it's widespread that Disney + and amazon isn't 4K on PC and that if you want higher then 720p, you need to use the app. But once again, it's capped at 1080p with no HDR support. Hell, Disney+ isn't 4K HDR on PS4 pro either even though it's big feature is that.
Really surprised that Kdenlive wasn't mentioned in the free desktop video editors part of the video
Getting the playstore to work was actually quite easy. I've been using wsa and the playstore for a few months now, along with an application called borderless gaming to fully use my 9:16 display for android apps. Works surprisingly well. The only issue is the android system not sending display updates in a smooth manner.
Is games available like call of duty mobile etc?
@@austine2680 does the dev support it? 🙃
@@alfr3l blue stacks isn’t dev supported but works
@@austine2680 I don't see it on the playstore. Some games aren't available, but there are plenty that are available.
Being able to sideload an app for 2FA then means it’s no longer 2FA and defeats the point of that second factor of “something you have” ie your phone. There are some huge security implications here, I wonder if Microsoft have a solution to prevent this becoming a problem!
Your computer is still "something you have", no?
I could see some people wanting the "something you have" be a laptop
Well itll be a virtual machine so there is no way WSA will get hacked even if windows 11 is compromised
In most cases no. It would still prevent someone who only has your password from being able to remotely login to your accounts, which is the main threat by far for the average person. The "something you have" just becomes the computer instead of the phone.
Wait, you want Microsoft to patch people using their software the way they want? It's Up to the user how they want their 2FA to be setup. And it the same as when you sign in on your phone and you have the 2FA code on the phone.
You may be able to use MicroG for Google Apps
Just use WSAGAScript, works 'fairly perfectly'. You know, as perfect as 3rd party tools can really.
5:05
It may be a time saving, but it's also a massive security hole
“... up here in America’s Hat”? Lol. I have never heard that before! 😆
A few technical issues are still unclear:
How does it behave when there's another VM running, like via Virtualbox? How does it handle task scheduling on hybrid CPUs?
Great questions but how strong is kettle?
@@moretestmorebreast7654 yeah, how strong is kettle- still don't know?
Are issues with multiple VMs ever a problem? Never had that problem with wsl, docker, virtualbox or any other virtualization option.
Hybrid CPUs as in big/small cores? Probably depends on the host system for proper arm emulation, anything that actually runs natively will depend on the internal CPU scheduling and what the android kernel wants to do afaik. Probably not very optimized for that tbh.
It is a hyper-v VM so with it come the same limitations as any normal hyper-v VM granted now days they are small and barely a thing.
@@LuLeBe
WSL, WSA, and Docker¹ relies on HyperV
The problem is: if you are using third party virtualization (QEMU, VirtualBox, VMWare), it won't run unless you install the "Hyper-V Compatible" version of third party Virtualization
¹With the exception of old-school Docker which requires VirtualBox
This is going to be great on my Surface Pro X with ARM processor to run Discord natively on ARM. Both the desktop app in emulation mode and the web app are terrible battery drainers and laggy for me. Same could be applied for other apps that dont have an ARM version for Windows.
Both discord mobile and desktop app are webapps electronjs and reactmobile
Agreed, ram intensive, battery draining, my recommendation is swap the surface pro X for samsung tab 6-8. Run a windows 11 emulator or get their samsung galaxy book2 PRO or get samsung phone and connect it to windows and screen share. I love surface products but they aren't listening to their consumers and have gone backwards with minimal improvements. I switched HP spectre and my next pc is a samsung galaxy book2 PRO with 5G running full windows.
I wish they would release native ARM64 for windows, because they already have native ARM64 for MacOS and it runs really well
@@sys935 no, the android app is native. And react native uses native components, it is not a webview
@@vadhub doesn't matter how hard you denied the truth it won't change facts the developer love the javascript rapid development low cost and time
The photo editor photopea definitely deserves a shoutout when talking about alternatives
You mentioned Bluestacks and nox but I'm actually more curious as to how it compares to LDplayer as far as system resource impact and performance.
windows 11 could have just been a big update for windows 10 imo
Its for marketing entirely, and for the most part windows 11 is just an update for windows 10 considering its free.
That's exactly what it is, its Windows 10 reskinned, and I don't mind it
Everything except for the security requirements could have been done on Windows 10.
True. I am happy with the start menu though (without the silly tiles). And the new icons are kinda neat. All in all I approve.
@@BrianJ. yeah I hated the tiles on windows 10
I suspect I misunderstood the point, but wanted to mention that Android apps running on x86 has been a common thing for a number of years because Chromebooks (which run Android apps) also typically sport x86 hardware. Chromebooks also deserve some credit for getting Android developers to finally get beyond the phone screen dimensions. (Mostly.)
Wrong. Intel has been developing running android on x86 since Intel Atom was made to run on smartphone and tablet then Intel failed but the compatibility remains.
Video was amazing as always, but it was really funny how I got an ad for pulseway that involved linus as the host. Just kinda funny don't u think
This is giving me the same feeling as windows subsystem for linux. Its not going to be as good as running it natively but the fact mostly works & is almost as good within windows with little hassle will give it value.
This could also be a way for Microsoft to push Windows 11 tablets/hybrid laptops
Anthony alot of the devs from Android x86 moved over to fuze os it's essentially Android x86 but updated and support for more universal hardware. Checked it out a few years ago, it works it's a little bit faster then Android x86 but its slower then bluestacks
sounds interesting but I can't find it, the only thing that comes up is some video conferencing software with the same name
haha, like the dig on Antec. I'm still rocking an Antec 1100(OG version)
there’s a way to get google apps on WSA, you have to manually create the installation package by adding them before installing it. i don’t exactly remember the details because i did this a couple months ago, but with a quick google search you’ll find about this (i’m pretty sure there’s also a subreddit on this). *please note that by adding gApps to WSA this war, most of the apps that need google will work but not every single one*
I was really hoping this was gonna be a video about running win 11 as a vm in android 13
That actually sounds useful unlike this nonsense
You can already run ARM windows 10/11 on Android. Check out "Project Renegade".
I would love to see a more indepth video on stuff like ram usage. Having used Windows subsystem for Linux in the past I know that it can be a real memory hog and I'm curious how it is on android
WSA uses about 4GB RAM, just to have the Amazon appstore open. If you have the option set for WSA to be always available, it takes a little over 2GB RAM to idle. Besides Amazon appstore, opening just about any other app also gives the WSA VM about 4GB RAM.
CPU usage isn't excessive, but it's executed extremely poorly.
Scrolling is choppy, highlighting text or typing in text boxes can be hit-or-miss.
This feels overall very much like an alpha software version, not even ready for beta yet.
Hog rider
@@eric-. Is there a way to limit ram usage like with a .wslconfig file?
@@tijsvanleemput5694 i havent looked into it that far.
You can fork a githib and build a version of WSA with gapps installed now. I have been using it and love it.
sounds cool, I've been using the "Your Phone" app for a long time that essentially just let's you use your phone on windows
kinda defeats 2FA when you're running the app directly within windows. You're literally bypassing the seperate "something you have" part of the 2 factor. If Anthony were that security focused, he shouldn't have used that as one of the 3 primary reasons to do it.
2 factor for most people is an annoyance we put up with rather than something we want to do.
2FA strength is in a scenario when somebody logins into your account and then it asks for a code and it saves you or as a security layer for you if you have to login from a device in work or school or some place like that. If somebody get's physical access to your computer to be able to use your logins and 2FA in one device, you are royally f*cked anyway.
Your PC is still "something you have". If somebody has physical access to one of your personal devices (PC, phone, smartwatch, whatever), you're already past the point where regular 2FA is intended to help you. If you need that kind of security, you should at minimum be using a dedicated hardware 2FA key that's physically separated from ALL of your devices (which most services don't even support, because it's not necessary for the majority of people!)
Honestly it's the opposite of what I want, unless the dev specifically locks you out of using a browser/PC I would much prefer the PC/desktop browser experience as I find most mobile apps versions to be awful, and mostly if they require a mobile app and lock out the browser/PC option I simply stop using them entirely, like I did with Facebook messanger.
Ive used Bluestacks in the past, but always had issues with it being buggy as well as installing apps by itself, sometime to the point where it would take forever to load just the home screen. Not to mention 3 separate times it erased my data. Tried Nox but it didn't run well with my older hardware, but at least it wasn't buggy.
I mainly use RemixOS for any android emulation, and it works well for what I need to do. The wifi bug I have with it is annoying but if I plan beforehand and unplug my external wifi antenna then it'll work with whats built in when I boot it up. But only when I want to use wifi with it for updates and such, because most of the time I don't. Plus I like that it feels a little more complete than the other two I mentioned above, but it was a pain to figure out how to install alongside with boot up at first. But now I've gotten it on Intel and AMD hardware with no issue. I'm surprised people don't mention RemixOS much anymore, besides it not being updated recently :)
You could post on instagram for years using inspect mode on the browser on your pc and clicking the mobile icon then reloading the page.
imagine if Microsoft struck another deal with Amazon to put Windows 11 on their Fire tablets.
Not powerful enough.
Although this seems like a cool feature, I think I'll just stick with connecting my Android phone to my PC and using scrcpy. If you have a powerful enough phone (me running a OnePlus 5T running Lineage OS), it works perfectly fine and you can share files and the clipboard quite easily between your PC and the Android device
hey, can you tell me how to share files and clipboard using scrapy ???
@@psyt47 It's enabled by default. Any text you copy on Android saves to the clipboard in Windows and vice-versa. You can send files by drag&drop from Windows to Android (it goes to the Internal Storage) but not the other way around. For that, you can just use the regular Android File Transfer
Scrcpy depends on router, thus there will be noticeable delay, Huawei's multi screen collaboration is based on scrcpy but they use WiFi direct instead. It results almost no delay.
@@lumpython5351 that's why it is recommended to use USB. I never use WiFi for that sort of stuff, the delay annoys me
Yeah scrcpy is Awesome! But Android Studio (from Google)runs a virtual Google Pixel tablet with Android 11 and the full play store. So why would people use a 3rd party emulator!?
Is no one gonna talk about how smooth the segues to the promotions are.....
I got the play store working on windows 11 with Google services.you will need the kernel, ADB installer, and the WSAPackage to install it as well as a bit of powershell and command prompt.
Hope someone back ports this to Windows 10, this was one of the features that I would like to have but MS doesn't want me to upgrade to 11.
You can try Download the package and install it via PowerShell and you will see. Also you can try download the "edited" version with Gapps and Root from GIT
The Windows Subsystem for Android is literally the only feature of Windows 11 I care about.
Same, and then it turned out to be the biggest disappointment for me
For getting google accounts on WSA we can simply use MicroG, then choose Huawei option when signing in.
Also we need to tell that it uses a ton of memory, so 16GB RAM is almost necessary, although surprisingly doing light task like youtube music, image editing, doesn't even make my fan spin, it's just efficient I think.
You can make a video about gait recognition biometrics in python
recognized you from your walk model ???
Now (2024) Microsoft confirmed to close down the support already. Aged like fine milk, I assume.
It would be very interesting to have a look at the rising android sandbox for Linux (waydroid) as well.
I was recently thinking about making something like that. It's cool to see that it exists already and maybe some people will realise that they can switch to Linux and have even better experience, without any emulation layers, everything running natively (as long as application provide x86/x86-64 binaries, which some do).
Is that the G.Skill KM780 keyboard in front of Anthony? My first mechanical keyboard ever - fine AF!
FairEmail is the best email inbox I've ever used and Wallapop (a spanish CraigsList alike) only has smartphone app, but I'm already using those on LDPlayer, and I can also do some trickery by rooting it, so migrating my setup to the new and shiny W11 interpretation of it is more of a hassle than a feature, I'm good with how I'm now.
Honestly, this THE feature that will probably convince me to upgrade from 10 to 11 when I get a new computer.
Doesn't using windows for 2FA apps make it 1FA? You're removing the second factor: Another, separate device also owned by you to verify you are who you say you are.
Someone on your PC could access all your 2FA. Might as well use email codes since you're probably signed into your email on your desktop. This makes your desktop a single attack vector that would allow anyone into any of your accounts. I'm really surprised that Anthony mentioned that. I'd think he'd be able to spot the bad idea pretty quickly. Perhaps it was just overlooked in the script.
At any rate, to anyone watching this thinking Anthony is onto something, two words: Bad idea.
Ehh its more like 1.5fa. They would still have to crack two accounts to get into one, it just would be on one device. Still helps security over no 2fa, but not as good as a separate device for authentication
I don't want 2fa. It's forced everywhere even on the stupidest sites/apps that really don't need security.
well yeah, but they need physical access to the PC. I know that my PC is physically safe (unless someone would for some reason break into my house) and therefore i wouldn't mind using 2FA on my PC BUT only in addition to on the phone. Would be very bad if I reset the PC and didnt think of backing-up the 2FAs.
@@grafando - you are perhaps clued up with this ins and outs on how to keep your data safe... however... older and/or unwise people use the same email address AND password for _everything_ ...just 1 data breach means every log in they own is no longer secure... 2fa may seem a pain in the arse... but we are yet to say {insert company here} is 100% secure with my data
@@Jrostily6400 Your PC might be physically safe but it's not safe at all when it comes to viruses/malwares. Your Android/iOS smartphone is more secure in that regards.
I just saw a ad with Linus in it and I thoughts it was part of the video.
okay those ting plans actually looking tempting AF rn, rogers only really offering a 25GB plan i never even slightly get close to using for frickin $70 a month, i'm just worried how fast or strong my connection would be out here in a more rural part of canada
Can you stream 4k from netflix, disney plus and prime video through an Android app because of better DRM ?
just use Edge, works too
I’m also curious
you could if WSA supported Play Services, and its secure login method. But it doesn't, so you can't.
@@Jrostily6400 I think edge is only 1080p still.
@@thomasmccormick6650 Nope, Edge supports 4K playback and it's the only browser that supports it afaik
A more modern Android for x86 is Bliss OS. Runs way better in my VM than the original Android x86. It also has newer Android versions as an option.
RIP Antec... I loved my P182, the 1200 was also really good too
if google & microsoft join together to add a new version in addition to "n" & non "n" series (which implies multimedia features) like for example windows 11 home (AG) or windows 11 pro (AG) which AG stands for Android google and the fee for this specific versions are 10$ more than no "AG" versions, it would get google millions of dollars in cash from desktop OS users around the globe and help keeping both android & windows grow together instead of just competing with one another and this makes sense especially considering apple products with M1 ARM chips which can be used for both desktop & mobile OS User experience to anybody using them and these groups will continue to grow & be a threat to both Microsoft & google.
I'm preparing to move full time Linux on my desktop machine when game support on Linux improves and Apex is playable online, which is funny because I've been running Linux on my work machine forever and now it could soon be that it's better to develop android apps on Windows. Been developing web apps in WSL2 for a long time now outside work, works great!
I keep trying to convince devs at my company to use WSL for development. I'm not a dev, but I haven't found anything I can't do in WSL that I can do in full installed Linux computer.
In your experience, is WSL capable of being full replacement for using a Mac or Linux machine for development, like it seems to me?
You are probably not doing it with Jetbrain IntelliJ because their WSL/WSL2 support is so bad...
@@OmriYaHoo VS Code all the way. Been working from home since pandemic started and my current work setup is VS Code remote over SSH (LAN). It's the best.
I can have all my files and compilation done on work laptop while having four monitors and using my own PC for actual coding. Laptop can act as fifth monitor when using Barrier KVM (github) to share keyboard/mouse.
And when I develop personal projects I run them in WSL.
@@eric-. For web apps absolutely. I do mobile development with Flutter and it was a bit tricky to get working.
I have never really used Mac but you can install homebrew on wsl too. You can't compile native or hybrid apps for iOS tho because you need XCode for that. And you can't test on Safari.
I got MacOS running virtually on my Manjaro with some trickery but updating OS and Apps is difficult. I was able to run and test one work project in Safari but no hardware acceleration was a problem.
WSL is pretty sweet for example you can run Linux GUI apps if you host X server in WSL and install windows x-server to connect to it "remotely".
@Watcher good to know, thanks
Yay for a new Anthony Tech Tips video! /hj
(2:40) Thanks for the recommendation! (I'm currently stuck on Windows 10 as Windows 11 doesn't have some of its features)
(2:57) Yep, that's the AOSP file browser, which most manufacturer UXs hide, but I can access it on my Sony Xperia 1ii as Sony's Android software is close to the Pixel experience.
(3:01) 'primitive ftpd' Ahhhhh I recognise that! I use it on my BOOX to transfer files directly to it over Wi-Fi without going through a Web browser!
I suspect Microsoft has a missed opportunity to emulate a USB connection with MTP, similar to what they used to do with Windows Mobile emulators in the late 2000s where those could connect to the host for ActiveSync or WMDC.
(5:17) Also, due to user base size differences, e-book platforms usually put more development time into their tablet apps (and dedicated e-readers if they have any) than their desktop and Web apps, however, I find those desktop and Web apps to be good enough for research, but for example, I can't zoom in to print-replica e-books on the Kindle app, so I can't read large non-fiction books, so what I do is do my actual reading on my tablet, then re-read for research on my workstation and laptop.
I sideloaded google services couple of months ago and its working perfectly
It's not like they could do that for Windows 10, it's a shame they didn't. I love how the interface on 10 is much more usable and understandable than on 11.
its not like they couldnt port all of windows 11 features to windows vista, of course they can, but whats the point
Please, please, PLEASE don't use your 2fa app on your PC. There is a reason you should use your phone, because even if you PC is compromised, they won't be able to get into your account.
And what are you, a security expert?
compromised? almost every device are already compromised in these day, even with security patch or apps doesn't help or prevent other apps collecting user data without knowledge.
@@unknowtherwise6768 very true, three letter agencies in every device. What matters the most is WHO is able to control the device. I once had someone in my phone, most likely after probation they sent out a whole bunch of gym pics from my phone to female friends, they prob knew i was down bad lol
The 3 replies to the original comment here are pathetic
Even then it’s safer than having 2FA on PC
Can't wait for good running Win 11 on the Handheld PCs like Aya Neo and the GPD PC Series.
Having used both windows 10 and 11 I still think windows 10 more functional I like how on windows 10 I can just hit windows key + a and open a small box for quick settings and notifications windows 11 separating them just dont make since to me. I dont like the taskbar or start menu on windows 11. I have multiple hard drives so I have a copy of each on separate ssd drives. After using windows 11 for some time I missed windows10 so I switched back using 10 and if all goes well I have no plans on updating to 11. Man I'm so glad I had a untouched backup of windows10!
Great episode, but installing a MFA android app on a computer completely undermines the whole point of MFA
... it really doesn't
Yes and No. Multiple factor Authentication also protects you by preventing others logging into your account from a remote PC using just your password.
exactly my point.
yay more reasons for me to stay on team android
garbage operating system supports running programs from other garbage operating system, yep that checks out
@@tapenoisecafe garbage opinion
@@tapenoisecafe what ???
@@tapenoisecafe and what’s better macOS 😂
@@googlelord1678 I wouldn't lie, I've never lied in my entire life.
This might be what makes me go to 11. I run a desktop with a 9900k & a 3080 at home & use a NexDock 360 with a fold 3 for university. This will make it just a little more seamless & I'm happy about it.
One heavily overlooked aspect of this IMO is the added security benefits of Android packages and their distribution - all Android apps are properly sandboxed unlike Windows apps which are given free-reign. Once other app stores like Google Play and F-Droid run well on WSA, you have access to much better package repositories than ever available on Windows. Additionally, once apps are adapted to work well on larger screens i.e. once Android 12L (and future versions) goes more mainstream, and performance of WSA improves, it might be the best way to get and run apps on Windows.
I'm a little horrified at the suggestion to run your 2FA on your desktop. That's called 1FA. The whole reason that 2FA on your phone works is that it's a separate device.
Nope, a desktop is still "something you have".
A random attacker sat in St Petersburg or Mumbai, who has your password, will be unable to log in to your account no matter whether your 2FA token is on your phone or your PC. And if they have your PC compromised, all they have to do is wait for you to input your 2FA token from your phone anyway.
if that was the case then email 2fa wouldn't exist.
I'm excited to see where Win11 will be in 2 years.
no where cuase steam linux takes the world by storm
Windows **wista***
@@windowsxpprofessional i miss windows vista it was so much better than anythign else they made
@@idkanymore3382 next year please come back to me on this comment bookmark this
@Watcher will be*
You can use the Google play store on the WSFA ever since the first public release by modifying the files and enabling root, I was hoping you would show that
This person is a much better host! Good to see him presenting this video. Love him.
I remember when they promised android apps on windows 10.
Hahaha, you Did listened to them? Like bro, wtFfff
@@valerafox7795 Erm, no? I'm just saying that we've heard this all before.
Windows 11 is definitely improving, the developer builds look extremely promising.
The aurora store is a great frontend that uses the google play servers for downloading apps, that's worked well for me. There was also a script that could patch the wsa kernel to work with google play but I couldn't get it working
All I want to come out of this integration just one thing; Nearby Share working both on Android and Win 11.
This had to happen. To tackle the competition Google and Microsoft had to face from Apple seamless Ecosystem.
This isn't even in the same league. I doubt it'll ever be considering Microsoft is involved.
My iphone was the only apple product i had. And I was always jealous of how my friends could receive notifications and send messages on their macbooks. When Your Phone came out, I couldn't switch to android faster, and I'm so happy i did.
Like you said, this is just the next step for that seamless integration and I can't wait