Get Zen in the Klone Zone with the Warm Audio 'CENTAVO' & WarmDrive - THEY SOUND HOW THEY LOOK!
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Warm Audio sent me their horsie man klone and their warm take on a zen overdrive. The Klone does its thing well and the traditional style box looks great, even though it takes up a ton of space for clean boost, BUT THAT IS THE PRICE OF FASHION! And I might be a little in love with the sound of the Warm Drive, to the best of my knowledge I've never messed around with a ZenDrive variant before and now I think I might need to throw myself down that rabbit hole in the near future.
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The reality of the Klon experience cannot be truly experienced without playing a Klon. So, here we get a licensed Klon copy that for all practical purposes is a Klon . Made with the full legal blessings of the folks who designed, built and sold the originals. I never understood what was the big deal until my Centavo showed up. 5 minutes of playing and all was revealed. It is the flexible interaction among the 3 knobs circuits allowing for an amazing variety of sonic sweetness. Now I get it and I'm glad I got it.
p.s. You have made a very good vid with some smashingly excellent playing. Thank you.
Thank you. You do a great job explaining these pedals. You have inspired me to get into a few affordable pedals as my teacher retirement income allows. I enjoy hearing all the new sounds on your channel after watching you having so much fun with them.
Get a retirement side gig to afford more pedals! It’s a super fun hobby ime. 😂
Some great playing in this one, really shows the advantages of the pedals and how they should be used.
It took me quite a while to get into the Klon game, but the description of it as a 'make sound better' pedal is spot on.
I think this was the first time I really heard the sparkle of the lower gain setting. I need to revisit all my klones now.
@@60CycleHumcast You're missing out on half the Klon with the gain under 1/2 way. You may as well be using a clean boost because the hard clipping doesn't become active until the gain knob is over 50%
@@Phatzo1000 I know Josh Scott turned everyone on to that idea, but he was referencing the components used in the original,- not those simulated in clones.
An inexpensive knock off should be used any old way it sounds good.
@@markferguson3745 the circuit doesn't change if you use different brand components. The hard clipping comes in when it comes in, based on the circuit design
@@iainmcguire7190 Perhaps I understood incorrectly, but different components,- especially very different ones,- require that the values of other components must be adjusted to get similar results.
In the original Klon,- the one that some pay $600- $1000 for, the clipping diodes are what make it what it is.Not an expert, especially on the Klon , which I never saw the value in, but I know this applies to other types of clones.
I beleive it goes beyond " brand" , in this case, and it's more a question of " type".
The Klon clone is boosting the output, so it clips more often when the amplitude peaks. That's what you're noticing. It's a clipping that happens before the preamp.
Thank you for the great review of both pedals. But I really would have seen the two stacked in a "normal" way, the Clon with a little bit of gain into the warmdrive. Now it was only crazy un usable sounds, but fun to watch haha. I loved how you show the different sounds of the knobs. Thank you very much 🙏
I got it through your affiliate link. Not sure how much you get out of that, but I'm glad to support the show after all the hours of entertainment you've brought me.
Also this was the perfect amount of two princeton theme song.
In regards to the PRS, the pick guard and frets look cool. An actual unique silver sky.
Josh with JHS has said that the diodes for Klons don't engage until one of the knobs is turned up far enough, so I suspect that the crackle/hiss you heard is those diodes engaging.
Dos de mis overdrives favoritos! Y ambos funcionan muy bien juntos! 😎👍
Can’t believe how good their Klon sounds. It has the magic smoothness in the upper mids which even the better other clones don’t quite nail. I think it’s a “you get what you pay for” thing, Warm is using the absolute best possible components. That smoothness is subtle, but when you put dynamics processing on it, that difference becomes less subtle. I’ve been holding off on a Klon but finally i think i’ve found the right one. Bet analog synth would sound great through it amped, too.
I saw the Centavo the other day at a shop, and I couldn't believe how big it was. I thought it was some sort of display piece, but no, it was the actual pedal. Sounds great though!
Liked both boxes. Only own Fender & Squiers (Strats, Mustangs) but *definitely* enjoyed hearing the both the Strat & LP.
Great guitars, great pedals, great tones, great video! Looking forward to hearing the Foxx copy.
Also note that "gain hump" on the Centavo is right at the spot the "special diodes" are engaged.
Damn that guitar is hideous. Right up your alley Ryan, great job.
lol thanks, Ill probably take the stickers off soonish.
@@60CycleHumcast No, it's been improved, don't reduce it back to gussied up Strat nonsense, now it lives!
I have a 2021 Epiphone Custom Koa Les Paul that would wipe the floor with that Gibson
Sold. Both of them. Ordering soon.
Enjoy! Thx for your support!
Big fan of the Zen drive and it's clones. This video reaffirmed it.
very good show
Uh oh! Hope Josh Scott doesn’t hear you saying the klon is best used as a clean boost 😂😂
U made me buy one.
I do love the warming effect.. I wonder how it works with other instruments
Mighty mighty bosstones! YES
I got the warm foxy tone box it’s savage
You need to use the Les Paul on a more regular basis. It sounds great!
Warm audio does great reproductions of pedals, awsome company
And microphones.
And EQ. And dynamics.
Thanks y'all!
I actually love the pickguard on that silver sky.
Someone had 2 !
I'm definitely a fan of the Zen Drive, the Centavo is ok
i loved the mixed carton box
this video is being recommended to me so hard, that the first recommended video after this video... IS THIS VIDEO
Damn, RUclips has my back lol
The Warm Audio ODD is unreal. If you demo this ise the LP
First of all, I’m in the middle of a build of a Paul Reed Smith, but with P 90s neck and bridge because I’m a lefty and they don’t have it I like so I’m just buying the parts to build it like I won’t I built a Stratocaster with humpbackers, and I have the centavo and I like the switch on the back up except on one guitar my SG with humbacking pick ups with the switch on the back up it just funny. yeah, not in to heavy metal.
The strat looks sick, don't listen to the haters
I've already got 8 ODs and currently use 2 of them - one for single coil/p90s and one for HBs. Given up on getting another one ever again. It's just overwhelming these days (rocks in corner mumbling insanely) lol
Nice! I've always been kind of interested in the zen drive. This sounds pretty good. The way I'm hearing it, the voice control is pretty much a presence control, right? Really diggin the tone you started dialing in around the @23:30 section. And the Klonberries sounds like Klonberries 😆 I actually like klons a bit on the dirty side!
I wonder how the Centavo stacks up against the Stewmac Ghost drive
what’s nasal sounds? & throw in a 9th once in a while . . ref: warm audio’s centavo & warmdrive pedals “get zen in the klone zone w/the warm audio . . “ on youtube . . ps no stones unturned . . best review so far . .
Dude do you still have that baritone? Please fill me in and tell me more I haven’t seen or heard that one before.
Dig you playing ❤
Ryan, what is that riff you’re playing from 5:31-5:37? It’s so familiar… thanks!
So if you have an EQ in your amp, like a Mesa Mark V, can't you do the same thing?
When does editing ryan get his own show?
If you're going to try it in clean boost mode, you should really use it to boost the volume. Otherwise, what's the point? The idea is to push the amp, that would typically be on the edge of breakup. It's not to change the tone, in isolation, at the same volume as your clean tone
What reverb do you use in this video? Thanks!
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I want a Klone Clon
What do you use for that spring reverb? It’s got so much drip
I think the centavo sounds better on single coils,sounds to muddy on humbuckers like I think a $100 counterfeit bill would sound
I got a fever and the only prescription is more 2 Princetons Midi.
Not impressed with the Klon Clone ..I'll stay with my Fulltone and Electro Harmonix overdrive pedals
I wish you wouldn't use the neck PUP's with distortion it simply doesn't sound good on any guitar unless for some lead.
I think the settings on your amp are ice picking. Could be the PRS which you keep calling a strat but it doesn’t sounds like a strat. More like G&L pick ups
Actually like the Les Paul
I feel maybe the demo could have been better and used a better guitar ! Such a Suhr HSS or PRS and some reverb. The playing could have been better.
They playing could always be better.
Unfortunately Hendrix was detained and couldn’t make it.
DUDE, where did you get a gold sparkle JAG-STANG???!!
I got it refinished and it was totally worth it.
@@60CycleHumcast yesss!! ruclips.net/video/VYfGqW3Gqyo/видео.html
@@lowheadroom that’s some fancy jag stanging! That’s also the color mine used to be.
@@60CycleHumcast thanks man! Right on
When experimenting with Drives, ask if it's really better than direct in, or a one knob boost, and if it is, question if you've got the right amp.
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Ok you seem like a great guy. But you do these pedals no justice in your demo
I'm gonna second the person down below that IDK how I feel about promoting these obvious trade-dress theft "clones". Copying a circuit is one thing, but trying to pass your clone off as looking like the real thing is a whole other thing altogether.
I will say, it’s one thing to do this with pedals that are still being manufactured, but personally I feel if something is out of production then it’s fair game. And even more when the price of the originals are unobtainable for most people. $5000-9000 for a pedal is pretty ridiculous. It was $1800 when I was in high school and I thought THAT was ridiculous for one pedal. And it still is to this day. I think the zen drive is still being made though? But the Foxx box and the Klon klone I think are pretty fair game here
It's in a project box that anyone can buy. It's painted gold. It has a centaur on it, but not the same centaur. The knobs are the same style, but a different color. The knobs are also standard knobs anyone can buy. It says WA Centavo. It's not trying to copy the trade dress. No one thinks it's a real Klon Centaur.
@@doctordickheadPhD Yeah if I remember correctly Lovepedal currently makes the Zendrive.
@@doctordickheadPhD I was on the fence, but you make a great point. I'm fully on team "fair game for discontinued products." Nobody is getting any potential income stolen from this.
It's licensed
Angry comment about misplaced feelings and emotional investment I have placed in the "original" pedals! Follow up insult about your guitar playing and how I feel I deserve more despite putting in no effort to create my own brand and following.
Like it's cool but I already own a Tumnus. Yeah I'm throwin shade I got no respect for more god damn klones. Make something new damnit.
"has a black panel Fender sound to it"
Well you are playing it through a pair of black panel Fenders 🤷
These both sound horrible to me. I don’t know why, but from this video, I don’t like either of them. I’m surprised they haven’t received a cease and desist letter yet.
I don't think your PRS could be uglier.
is that a dare?
Dude, that Silver Sky is an abomination, an eye sore of epic proportions. I bet you have bullet hole stickers on your car? Congrats on the testicular fortitude!
lol, no bullet hole stickers on my car.
The surf music guy? Trolls are so lazy
Who spit in your breakfast cereal this morning?
@@oansun Please give me your definition of what a troll is.
The guy himself had a sense of humor about my snark, why don't you?
@@brandon_s Oh thank you so much for fixing it. If you truly believe this looks great ... go for it.
Better watch it with those ugly boosted tones, Josh Smith might Make a limited edition that does this.
You sure you want to promote these counterfeit pedals??
counterfeit is different than a clone. A counterfeit would have all the original branding of the original products. These are clones. Still it is an interesting discussion to have and I don't delete comments as long as they stay civil, so go ahead and make your case.
@@60CycleHumcast That "Zendrive" is definately too close home to the original design. Lovepedal builds and sells them with a licence. This Warmdrive version isn't acceptable imo.
@@Joltsu If it's true that the original is still in production or not recently out of production then the Zen is bullshit. Otherwise, fair game on Klon and Fox Tone. Same reason I get bored with Strat copies, no matter how well made. The Strat exists in perpetuity, make your own design. Josh's recent history of guitar goes a long way to show how much people "borrow" from others, but other than that suspicious headstock take, the Strat was pretty darn original and revolutionary, even more than the LP. Functional replicas are fine if the originals are long gone and bazonkers.
From what I gathered, the Zendrive by Lovepedal has been licensed from the original creator and been in production there for like 10 years now. Licensing, I assume, would be for the use of the name and case design, as circuits apparently are not protected. Where I live, the Warmdrive resells for 25 to 50% lower than the Lovepedal version. I'd be more interested in where the price difference comes from. Does Warm cut corners there in terms of build quality or fair production when compared to Lovepedal? I'd be more interested in the ethics of production, because whether the Zendrive is still an »original« is debatable in my opinion, and if the price difference is simply for the name, I would not consider that »worth it«.
@@madearl The price difference may have something to do with the licensing he mentions, as the price would factor in that licensing payout. To me, if you have a deal with the original creator to produce essentially the same product then that counts as still being "in production" which makes the Warmdrive a bit sneaky. Technically, Danelectro (Steve Ridinger) is still making the Foxx Tone Machine but not a complete replica, soooooo, maybe a bit of wiggle room there.
The silver Sky is one ugly guitar
Man that PRS looks horrible 😂😂😭
yeah well its a guy.
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