No, I imagine that you, like most people, don't test the car to its limit on race tracks. I could be wrong, but i've only heard the word "beamer" from people who, lets just say, don't do track days.
Embarassing, but I snap (liftoff) oversteered my ZZW30 into a ditch in the rain yesterday. I was having trouble understanding what I did wrong, but based on this video it was over 5 things! Thank you for helping me learn and understand what to do in the future. (Both me and the car were unharmed!)
Great info! Thx..Fellow S2K owner. Learned real fast 17 years ago to never just dump the throttle & hit the brakes. Was my first RW drive car. FW only for my previous 20 years..AP2 much more forgiving!
totaled my 07 silverado with supercharged ls3 on a sweeping left turn, looked very similar to the viper wipeout. I played in the truck very often but having those wheels slip when you aren't ready... I tried everything I could do the second i lost traction i dropped power since i thought it was a hydroplane only to realize my bed was in the other lane by this point it was too late. I tired to stabilize but got a nasty snap, ripped the wheel out of my hands spun out into a light pole RIP Corverado. moral of story, idc how often you drive or drift once it happens and you're not expecting it those split second decisions matter and thanks to this video and personal experience, I see what wrong decisions i made in the moment. Drive safe guys especially when its raining and you're not running all season tires.
I am a new s2000 ap1 owner. I am not an experienced sports car driver. I owned an AH Sprite 40 years ago. Thats it. But, I do drive in snow about 4 months a year and you get very good at handling this exact problem because it happens a LOT. This is a great video.
+NekroSlayer LoL From I what Ive learned so far, is to stay away from Turbo SW20 and stick with the N/A ones. Most of them run pretty cheap to buy, are reliable, fuel efficient and handle pretty decently.
This is just what I was looking for! I was driving on the highway through a long sweeping curve, thankfully at a slow speed, maybe 35mph/50kph when my car just suddenly snapped like that. I was driving very smoothly, both with the steering and the throttle, so I must have hit something slick in the road. I knew that I had a large shoulder on my right and I was afraid of spinning into the road and getting t boned, so I basically continued the spin by wrenching the wheel more to the right until the car stopped, about a meter from the security barrier, facing exactly the direction I came from, but out of the road. Thankfully there were no other cars around so I just turned around and continued driving, but it was scary. In a situation like that, would you recommend for non professional drivers to attempt a recovery? Or are you more likely to botch it and plow into either the barrier or spin out in the road by fishtailing? Thanks again!
Lot of people confuse oversteer and snap oversteer. Snap oversteer is a completely different then oversteer... It happens when you are in a "drift" and returning to normal but it returns to fast snapping into place and then continuing spinning sending you into a 180 or 360 spin.
I remember when I was learning to drive and I was tired before a lesson then the lesson ended up being parallel parking for almost an hour. I was leaving the car park at the end of the lesson at a T junction except going left was an almost acute angle and right was a very loose square right. I'm following an suv and matching it's speed out of habit but I'm so tired I haven't noticed it going right until it's started turning (completely missing the signal) somehow in third going 20-25mph around a corner I should be taking at 12-15 mph I noticed that I'm going to go over into the oncoming lane on the front right tyre maybe a foot and by the time I'm out I'm going to have a fender bender with the car in the oncoming. It became natural as I completely dropped the revs, turned the car in hard, down shifted, rev matched and caught the car again counter steering to keep myself in my lane. The G forces were so high my instructor came out of their chair (they were on the left since I'm in the UK), up and other to the right and almost landed on top of the gear stick. Realised right away what I did but when I was asked I played dumb and said I think I just took the corner to hard.
Thank god for assetto corsa! it and 3 years of practice turned me from a idiot that had no idea what the clutch did to a driver confident with almost any car. and the ability to execute use that confidence to my advantage, driving is almost like walking for me and I don't even have my license yet.
Hey...even If your car is not the snap oversteer widowmaker get your suspension checked. My W124 Mercedes had a squeeky noise from the rear suspension, and whenever I did a slippery launch or tried to get through a corner hot it would try to spin me around almost as fast as my wheels were spinning like a wrecking ball slammed sideways on the rear. Got the suspension serviced...Now it will just squeel the tires a little and got over with the oversteering addiction it had!
I have had my dose of snap oversteer thank you ;) . I was driving for 8 years in a Opel Astra FWD car that would try to kill me with snap oversteer every winter and send me in the ditch needing help to get on the road at least 3 times every winter... After I got first an Ascona B and after a MB 190E with RWD I never lost control again even once in the winter. I hate snap oversteer and I hate FWD cars... Toyota MR2 is a no go for me because of the snap oversteer. I am planning to buy a Porche Cayman and after what I can see it is not plagued with snap oversteer even if it is mid engine.
any tips on correcting tiny high speed throttle on oversteer(s)? The kind you might get when cresting an off camber turn, where grip level to a rear tire drops off suddenly
Driving smoothly is great, but if it’s raining and I just want to do some skids, how do I avoid snap oversteer if the wheels regain traction mid skid and the car starts turning with the wheel?
4:04 I never think the cause of that oversteer is lifting the brake pedal suddenly. No, It's either low strong gear causes rear wheel lock or too much throttle on a strong gear causes rear wheel spin. Both can make rears lose traction and the car to oversteer and want to spin.
I have a really bad habit of letting go of the throttle when things start getting hairy. (I drive on snow) It's like my mind cannot fight the instinct of trying to slow down because Im too sideways. I'm getting better, and slowly building confidence. But when it snaps, I tend to automatically let off the gas.
I've found that sometimes letting up a little (but not off), can help you regain traction in the rear without it snapping you the other way. again, letting up a little, not letting off. the snow is the perfect place to practice it.
If it snaps it is to late, you want to avoid it snapping (snap oversteer is when you correcting a oversteer going sideways and it straightens up and snaps back going the other way extremely fast usually sending you into a 180 or 360 spin in an instant.)
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one of my cars is a mini GP 2, comes from factory with semi slick tires, six pods Brembo extra, it weighs 2500 lbs , can u help me understand why it rotates under breaking. (pros and cons) thanks
Minis have a notoriously happy rear end. If you focus on braking in a straight line, then trail off the brakes as you turn in, you'll be fine. Once you get comfortable with it, you can really start chucking it into corners, depending on your tires. I've been taking my f56 to the track for a couple years, and am continuously amazed at how much I can use liftoff oversteer to rotate on corner entry. I ended up getting a stiffer rear sway bar, and that's the only suspension mod I'll probably get, just because I'm so happy with what the car is capable of doing with some sticky tires.
can you correct if you have a laggy automatic where there is no immediate power available? without throttle you are left to brake and keep going sideways?
Squeezing the throttle properly while oversteering is needed not only to keep good balance, but it also helps to win bit more control and time for correcting the steering for a smooth come back from oversteer. Without any power applied rear wheels might snap back on to their normal grip too soon causing a tankslapping. It is all about the sliding friction and static friction difference in magnitude, and how fast it can change from one to another. I wish my next car would be RWD, I honsetly feel safer in RWD.
Aand that is why I hate FWD cars, you can not avoid or control it in any way or form to avoid the snap oversteer... All you can do is grab the steering wheel and turn it at the right millisecond so hard that your arms and hand hurt for a week after to stop the snap, or else you go into the ditch... Usually I ended in the ditch at least 3 times every winter for 8 years, until I got a RWD car, then 0 ditching for 22 years now.
James Pawelek-Lacey easiest way to explain is if you throw your head back from being in front of you, you stumble backwards as a result. Same thing in a car, the force (head) got moved back too quick for the rest of the car body to prepare (or your body) to prepare and throws the balance off
good channel keep it up! Do you set up the suspension yourself? Camber angle, front toe out, rear toe ins, front wheel casters, etc... If so what tools do you use for the alignment?
yeah i was hinting for you to make a video about it... I would pay to have it done, but if you track the car its probably cheaper to DIY? I dunno. By the way I just moved to the states, Lord willing i get a job soon and might be interested in the CR you have for sale
Alternate title: How to Enjoy your S2000. By sheer dumb luck I was able to correct an oversteer just like you said. What is your recommended street set-up for an AP1? Toe, camber, etc? Weaker rear sway bar? What vehicle dynamics book do you recommend for an intro? Thanks for all the videos. Great stuff.
+Michael Cohen Haha! Thats awesome. The factory alignment is a good start. I believe the AP1 specifies a lot of toe-in in the rear and that helps a with stability. I added a stiffer front bar when I went to a square 255 set up on my AP1. It was still very tail happy but I let a professional driver take it around thunder hill and he loved it! For tuning I like "tune to win". For car control I like the book "Going faster! Mastering the art of Race Driving". These books are very simple and easy to understand. A more advanced book would be Milliken's "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics".
ZentRose HI Zent you said you went with a 255 square set up, did you have to roll the fenders or have any rubbing issues? I watched speed Academy and they had issues with the 255 square setup and was just wondering on what your rims and sizes you had were, and thanks for the video planning on going to ncm this summer.
3:56 "In the s2000 I came into the corner and popped off the brakes and sent the car sideways" - When popping off the brakes the weight of the car transfers to the back end if im not mistaken, so wouldnt the added weight on the back tyres give them more grip and therefore prevent an oversteer. When stomping on the brakes hard the weight of the car moves forward hence causing the rear tyres to loose grip. Can letting off the brakes cause an oversteer or was that oversteer caused by actual pressing of the brakes at a higher speed? Thank you to anyone in advance for clarifying my question
+LoveForCars Thunderhill bypass in a stock s2k (pads & tires) would be about 2:09. I haven't run thunderhill in the z06. I would imagine it would be sub 2 with pads and sticky street tires.
All I know of AWD is never lift of the gas, or you WILL spin... One expetion is the Ford Sierra Coswort AWD, that you could do pretty much anything and it would be ok, most forgiving car I have ever tested.
Never had problem with snap oversteer on any RWD car, only on FWD and snap oversteer on FWD is a nightmare because there is nothing you can do to avoid it like give gently gas or things like that.
Snap oversteer is good, it is what it does... It snaps into place and so fast and with so much force and momentum that it sends you in a spin the other way if you are not prepared for it and do countermeasures to avoid it.
+Dazzmond Western All cars, also not on FWD cars.Because lifting off the accelerator will cause the weight to shift forward, thus putting even less weight on the rear wheels=less traction.
I only race in sim, I learned to catch oversteer and I'm also learning to drift, which gets me more familiar with going sideways. If you oversteer, just drift. If you know how to balance a drift and exit a drift without snapping to the opposite side, you can always catch oversteer, unless the track isn't wide enough to paint a bow on it.
Snap oversteer is a completely different then oversteer... It happens when you are in a "drift" and returning to normal but it returns to fast snapping into place and then continuing spinning sending you into a 180 or 360 spin.
@@a64738 Yeah, by managing and stabilizing oversteer just like drifting, you avoid snap oversteer. Or purposely cause "snap oversteer" to transition a drift between a left and a right sided bend.
Best street drifter I’ve ever met was a good ole’ country boy named Garret in his 2010 Mustang 4.6 It was fun messing around with him when we left work, Dude could drive😂
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"...because I don't want to die."
golden :)
+Alberto Knox Yeah man, death is not cool and that BMW was out to get me. Nice bike by the way!
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because, who wants to live forever
+Alberto Knox Witnessssssssss
+Alberto Knox lmao so i guess my beamer will bring me death quick aye ?
No, I imagine that you, like most people, don't test the car to its limit on race tracks. I could be wrong, but i've only heard the word "beamer" from people who, lets just say, don't do track days.
"and that's why i drive a honda.."
i guess he is joking
I died at that part 😂
Scotty Kilmer was here
@@belverin01 not really
MR2 guy here. Thank you sexy
Boi literally just spun mines out lollll
"Don't do it wrong."
Embarassing, but I snap (liftoff) oversteered my ZZW30 into a ditch in the rain yesterday.
I was having trouble understanding what I did wrong, but based on this video it was over 5 things!
Thank you for helping me learn and understand what to do in the future.
(Both me and the car were unharmed!)
you still have the car?
drive a honda if you don't want to die? but what about when v-tec kicks in, yo?
Just keep going straight or make smooth steering inputs, yo :)
This is the best video showing snap oversteer in the USA!!
This will save lives.
lol usa, this is youtube brother...
Great info! Thx..Fellow S2K owner. Learned real fast 17 years ago to never just dump the throttle & hit the brakes. Was my first RW drive car. FW only for my previous 20 years..AP2 much more forgiving!
totaled my 07 silverado with supercharged ls3 on a sweeping left turn, looked very similar to the viper wipeout. I played in the truck very often but having those wheels slip when you aren't ready... I tried everything I could do the second i lost traction i dropped power since i thought it was a hydroplane only to realize my bed was in the other lane by this point it was too late. I tired to stabilize but got a nasty snap, ripped the wheel out of my hands spun out into a light pole RIP Corverado.
moral of story, idc how often you drive or drift once it happens and you're not expecting it those split second decisions matter and thanks to this video and personal experience, I see what wrong decisions i made in the moment. Drive safe guys especially when its raining and you're not running all season tires.
I learned something new today. Thank you for making this video.
very well explained, one of the best oversteer discussion
I am a new s2000 ap1 owner. I am not an experienced sports car driver. I owned an AH Sprite 40 years ago. Thats it. But, I do drive in snow about 4 months a year and you get very good at handling this exact problem because it happens a LOT. This is a great video.
Nice, comprehensive guide!
+Ism Ael Thanks!
I love how the two most liked comments are in order how he said it(because I love Honda).
In other words, just drift. So this is pretty much what happens with any MR2 - SW20?
+zealotscout main reason im here 0.0 lol trying to pick an sw20 up and want to know how to drive it before i kill myself or wreck an amazing car
+NekroSlayer LoL From I what Ive learned so far, is to stay away from Turbo SW20 and stick with the N/A ones. Most of them run pretty cheap to buy, are reliable, fuel efficient and handle pretty decently.
+zealotscout so turbo is a no go and so is stick N/A >.< damn
+NekroSlayer LoL In all honesty though, neither of them are lost causes, the snap oversteer issues are fixable at least.
+zealotscout ohh they are? What can you do to fix it?
This is just what I was looking for!
I was driving on the highway through a long sweeping curve, thankfully at a slow speed, maybe 35mph/50kph when my car just suddenly snapped like that. I was driving very smoothly, both with the steering and the throttle, so I must have hit something slick in the road. I knew that I had a large shoulder on my right and I was afraid of spinning into the road and getting t boned, so I basically continued the spin by wrenching the wheel more to the right until the car stopped, about a meter from the security barrier, facing exactly the direction I came from, but out of the road. Thankfully there were no other cars around so I just turned around and continued driving, but it was scary.
In a situation like that, would you recommend for non professional drivers to attempt a recovery? Or are you more likely to botch it and plow into either the barrier or spin out in the road by fishtailing? Thanks again!
Well done man. Good vid
+memo144 Thanks!
Do you have more videos about driving? I like this one
i went back to driving a honda because i do not want to die lmao
Thank you for the advice.
Lot of people confuse oversteer and snap oversteer. Snap oversteer is a completely different then oversteer... It happens when you are in a "drift" and returning to normal but it returns to fast snapping into place and then continuing spinning sending you into a 180 or 360 spin.
This seems rather intuitive, but it's good to hear it from someone with lots of experience.
I remember when I was learning to drive and I was tired before a lesson then the lesson ended up being parallel parking for almost an hour. I was leaving the car park at the end of the lesson at a T junction except going left was an almost acute angle and right was a very loose square right. I'm following an suv and matching it's speed out of habit but I'm so tired I haven't noticed it going right until it's started turning (completely missing the signal) somehow in third going 20-25mph around a corner I should be taking at 12-15 mph I noticed that I'm going to go over into the oncoming lane on the front right tyre maybe a foot and by the time I'm out I'm going to have a fender bender with the car in the oncoming. It became natural as I completely dropped the revs, turned the car in hard, down shifted, rev matched and caught the car again counter steering to keep myself in my lane. The G forces were so high my instructor came out of their chair (they were on the left since I'm in the UK), up and other to the right and almost landed on top of the gear stick. Realised right away what I did but when I was asked I played dumb and said I think I just took the corner to hard.
Thank god for assetto corsa! it and 3 years of practice turned me from a idiot that had no idea what the clutch did to a driver confident with almost any car. and the ability to execute use that confidence to my advantage, driving is almost like walking for me and I don't even have my license yet.
TheNewWave does it really train you Lol been thinking about getting it to learn to drive stick
now you need to buy a car and go to track and practice boi! good luck!
It's pretty realistic, steering wheel feedback is on spot.
Much needed info! Thanks
Hey...even If your car is not the snap oversteer widowmaker get your suspension checked. My W124 Mercedes had a squeeky noise from the rear suspension, and whenever I did a slippery launch or tried to get through a corner hot it would try to spin me around almost as fast as my wheels were spinning like a wrecking ball slammed sideways on the rear. Got the suspension serviced...Now it will just squeel the tires a little and got over with the oversteering addiction it had!
If you’d like to get a grip on snap oversteer, just hop in an MR2 in sim. It’s a very good representation of the problem, although no g-forces.
I have had my dose of snap oversteer thank you ;) . I was driving for 8 years in a Opel Astra FWD car that would try to kill me with snap oversteer every winter and send me in the ditch needing help to get on the road at least 3 times every winter... After I got first an Ascona B and after a MB 190E with RWD I never lost control again even once in the winter. I hate snap oversteer and I hate FWD cars...
Toyota MR2 is a no go for me because of the snap oversteer. I am planning to buy a Porche Cayman and after what I can see it is not plagued with snap oversteer even if it is mid engine.
any tips on correcting tiny high speed throttle on oversteer(s)? The kind you might get when cresting an off camber turn, where grip level to a rear tire drops off suddenly
What a great video.
loved the video!
Awesome video!!
Great video!
Very informative thanks.
macualy culkin?
I’m late but I thought that too
Great tips...
man!.. great explanation!
This should be a Public Service Announcement! But then, there wouldn't be funny wipeouts on youtube anymore! Nicely done.....
Driving smoothly is great, but if it’s raining and I just want to do some skids, how do I avoid snap oversteer if the wheels regain traction mid skid and the car starts turning with the wheel?
Throttle modulation
Informative, thanks friend.
4:04 I never think the cause of that oversteer is lifting the brake pedal suddenly. No, It's either low strong gear causes rear wheel lock or too much throttle on a strong gear causes rear wheel spin. Both can make rears lose traction and the car to oversteer and want to spin.
Thanks for the tips. I spun out today and it was a spooky experience
Cool channel dude glad I found it
+bravowhiskey223 Thanks.
good stuff!
Do you still go to buttonwillow? That's got to be the best track around for learning how to push your car. Love taking my vette there.
What do you mean squeeze on the throttle? Do you mean keep your foot on the gas pedal? Thanks.
overcorrecting: steering wheel and footwork is not in sync. :)
I have a really bad habit of letting go of the throttle when things start getting hairy. (I drive on snow)
It's like my mind cannot fight the instinct of trying to slow down because Im too sideways.
I'm getting better, and slowly building confidence. But when it snaps, I tend to automatically let off the gas.
I do exactly the same thing, I guess it's something that will come with practice and confidence
I've found that sometimes letting up a little (but not off), can help you regain traction in the rear without it snapping you the other way. again, letting up a little, not letting off. the snow is the perfect place to practice it.
If it snaps it is to late, you want to avoid it snapping (snap oversteer is when you correcting a oversteer going sideways and it straightens up and snaps back going the other way extremely fast usually sending you into a 180 or 360 spin in an instant.)
one of my cars is a mini GP 2, comes from factory with semi slick tires, six pods Brembo extra, it weighs 2500 lbs , can u help me understand why it rotates under breaking. (pros and cons) thanks
Minis have a notoriously happy rear end. If you focus on braking in a straight line, then trail off the brakes as you turn in, you'll be fine. Once you get comfortable with it, you can really start chucking it into corners, depending on your tires.
I've been taking my f56 to the track for a couple years, and am continuously amazed at how much I can use liftoff oversteer to rotate on corner entry. I ended up getting a stiffer rear sway bar, and that's the only suspension mod I'll probably get, just because I'm so happy with what the car is capable of doing with some sticky tires.
True that! Thanks Zent.
+Sean Neal Thanks!
can you correct if you have a laggy automatic where there is no immediate power available? without throttle you are left to brake and keep going sideways?
Squeezing the throttle properly while oversteering is needed not only to keep good balance, but it also helps to win bit more control and time for correcting the steering for a smooth come back from oversteer. Without any power applied rear wheels might snap back on to their normal grip too soon causing a tankslapping. It is all about the sliding friction and static friction difference in magnitude, and how fast it can change from one to another. I wish my next car would be RWD, I honsetly feel safer in RWD.
Aand that is why I hate FWD cars, you can not avoid or control it in any way or form to avoid the snap oversteer... All you can do is grab the steering wheel and turn it at the right millisecond so hard that your arms and hand hurt for a week after to stop the snap, or else you go into the ditch... Usually I ended in the ditch at least 3 times every winter for 8 years, until I got a RWD car, then 0 ditching for 22 years now.
How does lifting off the brakes sends the car sideways? I’ve heard of lift off throttle oversteer. Never heard of lift off brakes oversteer
James Pawelek-Lacey easiest way to explain is if you throw your head back from being in front of you, you stumble backwards as a result. Same thing in a car, the force (head) got moved back too quick for the rest of the car body to prepare (or your body) to prepare and throws the balance off
good channel keep it up! Do you set up the suspension yourself? Camber angle, front toe out, rear toe ins, front wheel casters, etc... If so what tools do you use for the alignment?
+Edison Widener I used to and I still have the tools. I can show you how I set it up in my garage. These days I pay to have the work done.
yeah i was hinting for you to make a video about it... I would pay to have it done, but if you track the car its probably cheaper to DIY? I dunno. By the way I just moved to the states, Lord willing i get a job soon and might be interested in the CR you have for sale
+Edison Widener Yeah I can make a video about it. Good luck with the job search!
Alternate title: How to Enjoy your S2000.
By sheer dumb luck I was able to correct an oversteer just like you said.
What is your recommended street set-up for an AP1? Toe, camber, etc? Weaker rear sway bar?
What vehicle dynamics book do you recommend for an intro?
Thanks for all the videos. Great stuff.
+Michael Cohen Haha! Thats awesome.
The factory alignment is a good start. I believe the AP1 specifies a lot of toe-in in the rear and that helps a with stability. I added a stiffer front bar when I went to a square 255 set up on my AP1. It was still very tail happy but I let a professional driver take it around thunder hill and he loved it!
For tuning I like "tune to win". For car control I like the book "Going faster! Mastering the art of Race Driving". These books are very simple and easy to understand.
A more advanced book would be Milliken's "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics".
ZentRose HI Zent you said you went with a 255 square set up, did you have to roll the fenders or have any rubbing issues? I watched speed Academy and they had issues with the 255 square setup and was just wondering on what your rims and sizes you had were, and thanks for the video planning on going to ncm this summer.
do i go to the track to practice catching doriftus in my ap1?
3:56 "In the s2000 I came into the corner and popped off the brakes and sent the car sideways" - When popping off the brakes the weight of the car transfers to the back end if im not mistaken, so wouldnt the added weight on the back tyres give them more grip and therefore prevent an oversteer. When stomping on the brakes hard the weight of the car moves forward hence causing the rear tyres to loose grip. Can letting off the brakes cause an oversteer or was that oversteer caused by actual pressing of the brakes at a higher speed?
Thank you to anyone in advance for clarifying my question
I think it's pressing the brakes. When you let go of them the weight transfers into the back and gives you more grip
I think it has to do with engine braking - rwd cars with no active brake pressure on the front wheels acts like 100% rear brake bias when decelerating
im practicing. im getting there :D
youre a cool dude, what are you times with the z06 and s2k at Thunderhill bypass, also who do you run with? Ill see you out there
+LoveForCars Thunderhill bypass in a stock s2k (pads & tires) would be about 2:09. I haven't run thunderhill in the z06. I would imagine it would be sub 2 with pads and sticky street tires.
how to drift 101
never in always out...if in pull...return to neutral...then push...never underestimate neutral and slipping
hey, what's your opinion on polyurethane v. delrin Aarm and subframe bushings for a track car.
+Kody Noll I have used both and they both worked fine. Some people are very opinionated on this subject though.
Oh my god that’s thunder hill, I almost didn’t realize until I saw that god awful turn 5
Where do i practice?
Closed places.
Is this the same technique for rwd and awd?
All I know of AWD is never lift of the gas, or you WILL spin... One expetion is the Ford Sierra Coswort AWD, that you could do pretty much anything and it would be ok, most forgiving car I have ever tested.
After I wrecked my e46 I got an rsx type s, rwd is fun and all, but it can be sketchy for reasons like this
Never had problem with snap oversteer on any RWD car, only on FWD and snap oversteer on FWD is a nightmare because there is nothing you can do to avoid it like give gently gas or things like that.
Snap oversteer should really be called, delayed or unanticipated counter-steering.
Snap oversteer is good, it is what it does... It snaps into place and so fast and with so much force and momentum that it sends you in a spin the other way if you are not prepared for it and do countermeasures to avoid it.
when you say not to lift off acclerator when u encounter snap oversteer are you talking about RWD cars only?
+Dazzmond Western
All cars, also not on FWD cars.Because lifting off the accelerator will cause the weight to shift forward, thus putting even less weight on the rear wheels=less traction.
I only race in sim, I learned to catch oversteer and I'm also learning to drift, which gets me more familiar with going sideways. If you oversteer, just drift. If you know how to balance a drift and exit a drift without snapping to the opposite side, you can always catch oversteer, unless the track isn't wide enough to paint a bow on it.
Snap oversteer is a completely different then oversteer... It happens when you are in a "drift" and returning to normal but it returns to fast snapping into place and then continuing spinning sending you into a 180 or 360 spin.
@@a64738 Yeah, by managing and stabilizing oversteer just like drifting, you avoid snap oversteer. Or purposely cause "snap oversteer" to transition a drift between a left and a right sided bend.
The stiffer the suspension, the easier it will suddenly snap.
If you have good suspension it shouldn't snap. (softer suspension=more grip)
why would you escape it, i wanted an mr2 to snap off the cliff
How to drift
4:57
You gotta fuck up REAL hard to get an s2000 sideways haha
that's why my friend said my MR2-spyder is cursed
Your friend has no idea what he is talking about
@@povilaslondon yup.. I'm still alive
put a big wing on the back. boom solved
oversteering is easy to make a correction. understeer it kills you
+nico74321 Well you can cure understeer too. But yeah, I also think it is more dangerous. Especially on slipery surface.
What if the car is a FWD?
If you get really sideways, counter steer and gas it. The front wheels will help pull the front of the car in the right direction.
Best street drifter I’ve ever met was a good ole’ country boy named Garret in his 2010 Mustang 4.6
It was fun messing around with him when we left work, Dude could drive😂
This thing called snap oversteer only happens to bad drivers
Great vid! Lots of useful advice. But you're shirt is awful lol.
+nightmonkey07 haha thanks