Handling Oversteer Like A Professional Racecar Driver
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1:10 So without further ado, let's dig into our weekly video. So we've switched here to an onboard camera with myself driving at Watkins Glen in the IMSA series. Now, what I want to show you here is a big moment I had coming out of the boot, and we want to go through this corner and pick it apart, and find why I was able to make a pretty big save without losing much time. And then talk about the points of the oversteer that really can cause a lot of trouble to drivers, and really where you do get in trouble.
2:23 So once again, let's go even slower. So you can see here I'm making those small little movements, little movements. There's the big slide. This is where it really starts to have the compounding effects of oversteer. I've made my correction, I'm back, I'm countering that second correction. And this is in the pause section, if you make your second correction too much, you can really get the weight transferred too fast and then snap back again.
So, keeping your hands in the 9 and 3 clock is really critical. So you can see, I've corrected again too far, I've had my second correction, but this is where smoother inputs become critical, because you're really starting to play with the spring unloading and launching the car one way or the other.
3:21 So, what happened there? We drove in way too deep, and we had a complete lift of the throttle, way too fast, right here. And he's going to lift, and all the weight's going to shift to the front, way too fast, so the car is going to overload the rear, and the rear's going to lift and it's going to completely lose grip.
So, how do we prevent that? That goes back into the smooth transition of weight's series. Again, that's going to be in the footer below, we'll have the links to that. So one more time, fast through here with the big save, pause, unload, and that's how you drive the car.
3:53 So, what we saw in the slow-mo is we see that once we make a correction, the load, once it reaches its peak point, there is a pause. Now, if we are too fast to correct, and we go the other way before the car is finished the pause motion, that's where we start to really get the unload of the spring, the weight transferring too fast the other side, and that's where we get the snap back oversteer that we often see.
So, once we've had the slide start, remember, smooth hands, breathe, let the car pause, and then as the car starts to come back your way, that's where it's so critical to be smooth with your hands and not to counter back too much and force the weight transfer to go too far the other side.
So it's an oversteer, you counter into it, which is going to become second nature to almost everyone in a car, it's just second nature to counter into the steer. You're going to let it pause. Once the pause has stopped your car is going to come back your way, and that's where the smooth next correction. And you're kind of just letting the car weight figure itself back out, and then you'll be able to carry on with the corner.
That's how you can make a correction like a pro on track, and not let that oversteer turn into something far worse than it has to be. So I hope you enjoyed this video, and I hope you stuck around and also got the bonus on how weight transferring too fast to the front can really end your day too quickly. Thanks for joining us at Racers360, hope you enjoyed the video, we'll see you around next time.
It is scary but I remained as calm(as possible).....its was my fault... I'm was Too Fast And Too Furious.....but Thank God🙏
Happened to me yesterday too
Thanks man , im here cause i almost did that in my is300 I transferred the weight to hard but i caught it it was super sketchy especially since it was in the canyons
That’s crazy! This happen to me last night in my 02 is300 under a bridge going 60-70 sharp turn and between me and God, we saved it.
Likewise. Happened to me one day driving on concrete. Didn't know it had rained and the roads were wet. I don't know how I stayed calm. My stock IS is very prone to understeer though so adjustments needed
@@thomasj7506 to be honest bro its the body roll of the car , im on bc coilovers now swaybars and strut tower bars and i found that the car feels amazing now on turns
@@Andre_1901 are you on stock suspension?
@@2jzxjv848 yeah it was definitely the body roll of the car going those speeds on a tight turn. The car is bone stock with 57k miles so
It handles and feels great but it’s still a 4 door sedan, not some Porsche circuit car haha . But man saving the car from doing a 360 in one lane with a truck to my right and a wall to my left, that shit was unreal. I’m happy I saved it
Made a left hand turn in 2nd gear onto empty on ramp. Gained speed and rev'd to redline. Hard shift and back on throttle 100 percent. I was doing about 45 mph. As soon as 3rd gear engaged the back started to slide out on me. Whipped side to side to side until I was able to slam brakes and bring car to a stop. I was lucky nobody was around. Ended up on the side of the road , heart racing and smelling burnt rubber.
2017 370Z Nismo on 305's I need practice. Pray for me
Some wide tires, once they regain grip it launches lol. Got 285s myself on my 05 g
305s fit under a z34? No freaking way
Super video. I’ve got a lot - a lot - to learn, but each increment helps. Thanks.
As you are dealing with oversteer, how much gas and or brake should you be applying throughout each phase of the oversteer?
Unfortunately, there is no correct answer here. One of the major reasons coaching has to be personalized and adapted to the car, the driver, the corner, and even the situation.
The best principle is no throttle until you have the car saved. To really dive deep into this we would really recommend looking at our in-depth Oversteer Course here: racers360.com/education/oversteer-course/. It is for our Racers Lounge members but it is well worth it (we are biased though haha - you can still sign up for a free trial to watch the whole thing).
3:23- Aaaand $10,000!
Great video!
Wondering how much throttle input is appropriate during the “correction” phase?
Unfortunately, there is no correct answer here. One of the major reasons coaching has to be personalized and adapted to the car, the driver, the corner, and even the situation.
The best principle is no throttle until you have the car saved. To really dive deep into this we would really recommend looking at our in-depth Oversteer Course here: racers360.com/education/oversteer-course/. It is for our Racers Lounge members but it is well worth it (we are biased though haha - you can still sign up for a free trial to watch the whole thing).
Brilliant video
Thank you!!
3:10 Ugh, Nelson Ledges. That place will bite you if you're not careful.
When I was Karting this year in a amusement park, I got massive oversteer but I was able to catch it
the rear just snitched I had zero feedback like the Kart didn't tell me that I'm about to oversteer
Thanks. Any way to overlay throttle position onto video showing position? Maybe not this particular clip. Mustang came off throttle entirely, brake then over correction?
Hey Samson, if we actually have the data to go along with the video we can absolutely do that! Unfortunately, we didn't have data from that specific video.
instant subscribe thanks
If oversteer is caused by harsh throttle input at corner exit, is it better to lift off the throttle or just counter steer while maintaning throttle ?If lift off then the car will be out of power band and takes a more time to build up.
Hey Ashley! So the honest answer is it totally depends. I would say most of the time when it steps out violently you're going to need to release off some (or all) throttle + counter steer to catch it again.
I've seen plenty of drivers turn a small oversteer moment into a crash by thinking to themselves let me keep my foot in it so I don't lose anytime vs. just accepting they'll lose a couple tenths by making the necessary correction.
I'd rather not have a crash and lose a couple tenths any day of the week. But... again many factors at play here and it's a case by case basis.
When is too much oversteer and its starting to slow you down in a kart?
It all depends on your driving style, grip levels, and the track. Typically in karting, you don't want the car to actually slide very much. So, if you are losing rpm on corner exit from the oversteer it is too much. You typically want a kart to have a little more oversteer on corner entry, which they naturally do from the rear brakes but less on corner exit.
@@BlayzeCoaching so i was watching scott at driver61 and he said that the amount of oversteer needs to be less that the straight line of the wheel. Couldnt really understand what he ment by that as on his over steer tutorial he was saying a small amount of oversteer is actually quicker than non or too much. Im about half a second off the pace from the front runners in my series and trying to gain everywhere i can
@@darylsnelling6394 Hmm interesting, I think what he is trying to say is when you make a correction any bigger corrections than essentially making your steering wheel straight is too big of a correction, which means too much oversteer.
At a high level I would say we agree with that, but not really sure how much that helps.
We would say before you focus on setup or how your kart / car is feeling focusing in on your core driving technique is more important. Getting those foundations right is what will give you goals and priorities on track and start to learn naturally how much oversteer is preventing you from driving how you need to drive it.
The final level is then to learn how to adapt your driving to the kart when you can no longer work on setup (i.e. race time!)
@@BlayzeCoaching i race in club100 so all the karts are maintained and setup by the same mechanics. Ive been karting for a year and a half and im just trying to catch up to the pace of the others that have been doing it for years if thats possible. Thanks for your help be cool if you do some videos on karts even arrive and drive :)
And when you say core driving technique you mean like braking in a straight line leaning outwards in the kart rather than into the corner, racing line, braking points, turn in points anything else im missing that could help?
in video the first with racing driver got some small understeer right?
As an aside, look where you want to go.
How about letting go of the steering wheel to let it spin back while you return from your first correction.... or is that the dumbest thing?
i don’t even know anything about driving but surely u shouldn’t let go of the thing that controls the car when you’ve already made a mistake.
WHERE DESCRPTION!?
(also sorry if that's rude)
what does it mean, pause...?
There is a period in there between counter-steering, "pause to see if you have stopped the over rotation", and turning back into the turn where you are trying to feel the balance of the car, and the trajectory. You are not trying to re-introduce oversteer. The "pause" happens quickly as your body senses the slip angle is no longer increasing.
@@timothygould3542 and you mean pause to see how the chassis behaves by itself after starting rotational force on the back side of the vehicle by steering, a rotational force you have back already, to not add more than what is needed for curve?...
@@jara1462 I think you've got it.
This is NOT how you drive the car! You steering input is way to patchy at corner entry, you are not generating enough grip on the front tyres and your counter steer is way too slow and too long!
Racer ay ur name is ‘racer’. U tapped on the vid whether u looked it up or not this guy have actual info
..... if the driver generated more front grip the oversteer would be even worse...
U are trying to teach a pro racing driver😂😂😂
@@itchyonion3559 hes just kidding
Youre real good at driving, not that good at explaining though.
great video!