One thing I will say about SF4 is that it catered to individuality. Three pros could play the same character and we could get 3 different play styles of said character. I feel like that has lessened over time
But the reason for that is not what you think. The biggest reason everyone plays the same in 5 and 6 is because of the CFN. Every match goes to the cloud, and you can watch every top player's matches, as well as turn on their inputs. You can see their tech and option selects. Combine that with twitch, Twitter, and RUclips, and big prize money, and the games become optimized almost over night. Do not make the mistake of thinking that SF4 doesn't have an optimal way to play it. If it had a million dollar CPT prize and a CFN on par with SF6, you would see everyone playing these characters the same way too.
@@CallsignJoNay Not really because sometimes having different playstyles is not always about being suboptimal. For example, Infiltration akuma vs Tokido akuma. Same character, totally different styles, both equally valid.
@warezpl0 Valid is not the same as optimal. The reason why SF4 looks so diverse and interesting is the same reason that old black and white sports replays look so interesting and unique compared to modern day sports that are optimized and homogenous. Nobody knew what was optimal in the SF4 era, so they just made up their own valid, yet suboptimal, play styles.
@@CallsignJoNay If both are valid how do you know which is optimal. Logically tokido's akuma was "optimal" but infiltration was the one who won evo with akuma. If the game is open there is no such thing as optimal, because multiple playstyles are rewarded, and what comes out on top is the player not the character. That is my point. People very much knew what optimal was in sf4 era. Option selects and hard knockdown vortexes made it very obvious what the optimal play is. To such a degree that option selects were removed since sfv removal of jump back tech (Yes there are still some option selects but it's nothing compared to something like momochi tech or proximity option selects for example). People knew what is optimal but it was hard to do. That's also why pr rog's balrog was so amazing, there are 1 frame links everywhere. Now everyone can do most combos so there is no consideration on this point. Just because pros knew what optimal was doesn't mean they would go for it in every situation / or would have the execution to do it.
This is the difference with 4. I can watch pros and be in awe of the things they do because i cant knowing how hard it is. In 6 i feel i can do anything the pros do. Theres nothing jawdropping about it watching or playing it. That cr.HP counter hit into ultra was amazing and difficult as hell.
@@Jonathaneve5This is the one narrative that I wish would die for good. Like somehow playing pad is so impressive or that you are somehow at a disadvantage vs someone on stick. It used to be like back then too lol.
I've been watching Smug's videos for years, to the point where even my partner will watch with me, and she is the most casual gamer. Appreciate the video as always, keep up the great work! Much love from the UK!
Nearly Everything in this game is just perfect . The satisfying sound of the hits , the sound of the throw tech and the amount the tech pushes you back to reset neutral . I believe if they rereleased this with roll back net code ( although I rarely had connection problems ) it would be the main game again . Because lights and mediums link so well The combo routes are endless . I will never understand why following games would not allow 2 or 3 crouching jabs or shorts or mediums into a link to not combo , it just makes most bread and butters all the same .
Because of the frame data, Capcom Will need to make medium attacks 3 or 4 frames, street 5 and 6 dont have proximity normals to increase the speed of reaction and to balance the long and close range attacks ex: Sakura have a 3 frame heavy attack is broken but is jailed in a proximity normal.
Peace Smug, i know you main Dudley in sf4, ur i think it would be cool if you played knuckle du using different characters as well. I wanna see what you can cook up with balrog!
I’m back on home soil. I’m coming for yall, soon as I finish making my millions I will then revert my attention back to street fighter. (Ameriken) - remember the name well
@@duxnihilo Reasons: 1.Mah boi Urien and C.Viper aren't in SF6. 2.We got Ed and Elena before Balrog. 3.Modern controls in ranked. 4.Severely lacking costumes. 5.Drive System needs to be fixed. 6.Rashid Lvl 2. 7.They made Zangief harder to play. 8.Matchmaking stalls my Pause Menu button. 9.Chun Li and Cammy's curves are nerfed. 10. Mai's cleavage is too covered up. 11.Terry looks like a 40 yr old tryna be hip. 12.Reaching Master rank is very easy. 13.MR points reward in Ranked is shitty. 14.Lvl 3 does too much damage for these fg mechanics. 15. Zoning in SF6 is Sagat SFV level annoying. 16.Costumes are too expensive. 17.Perfect Parry carries too much. 18 Blanka's even more annoying. 19.Throw loops. 20.Pros gaslight with their tier lists.
I would handle both yall 😂 Smug you know what’s up. You understood my Sagat every time you came to Taito station in Shinjuku. The only black American who could go toe to toe with the Gods in 4
I knew Du's Akuma was legit, when I saw that set w/him & Kbrad at KIT 2016
One thing I will say about SF4 is that it catered to individuality. Three pros could play the same character and we could get 3 different play styles of said character. I feel like that has lessened over time
100000% facts
But the reason for that is not what you think. The biggest reason everyone plays the same in 5 and 6 is because of the CFN. Every match goes to the cloud, and you can watch every top player's matches, as well as turn on their inputs. You can see their tech and option selects. Combine that with twitch, Twitter, and RUclips, and big prize money, and the games become optimized almost over night. Do not make the mistake of thinking that SF4 doesn't have an optimal way to play it. If it had a million dollar CPT prize and a CFN on par with SF6, you would see everyone playing these characters the same way too.
@@CallsignJoNay Not really because sometimes having different playstyles is not always about being suboptimal. For example, Infiltration akuma vs Tokido akuma. Same character, totally different styles, both equally valid.
@warezpl0 Valid is not the same as optimal. The reason why SF4 looks so diverse and interesting is the same reason that old black and white sports replays look so interesting and unique compared to modern day sports that are optimized and homogenous. Nobody knew what was optimal in the SF4 era, so they just made up their own valid, yet suboptimal, play styles.
@@CallsignJoNay If both are valid how do you know which is optimal. Logically tokido's akuma was "optimal" but infiltration was the one who won evo with akuma. If the game is open there is no such thing as optimal, because multiple playstyles are rewarded, and what comes out on top is the player not the character. That is my point. People very much knew what optimal was in sf4 era. Option selects and hard knockdown vortexes made it very obvious what the optimal play is. To such a degree that option selects were removed since sfv removal of jump back tech (Yes there are still some option selects but it's nothing compared to something like momochi tech or proximity option selects for example). People knew what is optimal but it was hard to do. That's also why pr rog's balrog was so amazing, there are 1 frame links everywhere. Now everyone can do most combos so there is no consideration on this point. Just because pros knew what optimal was doesn't mean they would go for it in every situation / or would have the execution to do it.
This is the difference with 4. I can watch pros and be in awe of the things they do because i cant knowing how hard it is. In 6 i feel i can do anything the pros do. Theres nothing jawdropping about it watching or playing it. That cr.HP counter hit into ultra was amazing and difficult as hell.
0:25 HE GOT DEM LINKS SO BEAUTIFUL 😢😢😢
Making those combos look so easy
It may look easy but it takes a lot of practice to get good with combo
On pads too.
@@Jonathaneve5This is the one narrative that I wish would die for good. Like somehow playing pad is so impressive or that you are somehow at a disadvantage vs someone on stick. It used to be like back then too lol.
@@NumeroGaijin It’s very hard to pull one frame links on pad.
I see all this sophisticated button presses I just smash all the buttons till the controller breaks. LOL 😂😂
I've been watching Smug's videos for years, to the point where even my partner will watch with me, and she is the most casual gamer. Appreciate the video as always, keep up the great work!
Much love from the UK!
akuma was a nightmare in vanilla 4 too, shit was wild
Nearly Everything in this game is just perfect . The satisfying sound of the hits , the sound of the throw tech and the amount the tech pushes you back to reset neutral .
I believe if they rereleased this with roll back net code ( although I rarely had connection problems ) it would be the main game again . Because lights and mediums link so well The combo routes are endless . I will never understand why following games would not allow 2 or 3 crouching jabs or shorts or mediums into a link to not combo , it just makes most bread and butters all the same .
Because of the frame data, Capcom Will need to make medium attacks 3 or 4 frames, street 5 and 6 dont have proximity normals to increase the speed of reaction and to balance the long and close range attacks ex: Sakura have a 3 frame heavy attack is broken but is jailed in a proximity normal.
The way du enunciates every syllable of confirmation with so much sass lol
Reminder this is the game that gave Akuma an infinite with stand HK into jab before super game around lmao
That combo at the start .. DAAAAMN
0:03 intro links diabolical 😂
Street fighter 4 Akuma is just a menace
loved Ultra 4
Bro finally catching your uploads man. Love watching you play bro.
Street Fighter 4 Good ❤
Volcano stage, fitting in a Tekken game? With all the volcano and cliff tossing attempts in the plot, yeah, it better be. :V
This that real raw SF
Peace Smug, i know you main Dudley in sf4, ur i think it would be cool if you played knuckle du using different characters as well. I wanna see what you can cook up with balrog!
Well done 👏
Du's Akuma is almost as Good as AutoDemon😎
Akuma is a problem.
Looking back at all the older games, do you think remy should make a comeback?
No one wants a Emo Guile Clone to come back...😒
I LOVE REMY
@@WackJack187 You have poor taste....
Y’all should random select next time
Sf4 is the mk9 of sf
I’m back on home soil. I’m coming for yall, soon as I finish making my millions I will then revert my attention back to street fighter. (Ameriken) - remember the name well
Ian neverrr seen get wiggyed washed like that😭😭😭 but also u should setup the ftma5 money match
Akuma ALWAYS has being a problem since day 1. This ain't new 🙄
I mean. He's a problem if you're not using him.
i remember when he went to wnf and bodied everyone with akuma
still the best sf...
I love you smug
They dont be adding SF4 to battlehub because they afraid they'll make players lose interest in sf6 lmao.
Damn Im surprised du took it ezy on you smug 😂
is it 2015 or 2025?
If they drop Sagat just know that it’s over for y’all ✌️
Not smug getting wiggity washed 😮
Luv u smug 🩵
Smug, you need to play someones ONI
Du is a problem!
Smug
For my old ass, SFIV was the last real Street Fighter 👴
1.SFIV
2.SFV
3.SFVI
SFV better than 6?
The game that doesn't have normal chip kill should be last
@blackmanta2527 sf6 doesnt have normal chip kill outside of burnout
@@duxnihilo
Reasons:
1.Mah boi Urien and C.Viper aren't in SF6.
2.We got Ed and Elena before Balrog.
3.Modern controls in ranked.
4.Severely lacking costumes.
5.Drive System needs to be fixed.
6.Rashid Lvl 2.
7.They made Zangief harder to play.
8.Matchmaking stalls my Pause Menu button.
9.Chun Li and Cammy's curves are nerfed.
10. Mai's cleavage is too covered up.
11.Terry looks like a 40 yr old tryna be hip.
12.Reaching Master rank is very easy.
13.MR points reward in Ranked is shitty.
14.Lvl 3 does too much damage for these fg mechanics.
15. Zoning in SF6 is Sagat SFV level annoying.
16.Costumes are too expensive.
17.Perfect Parry carries too much.
18 Blanka's even more annoying.
19.Throw loops.
20.Pros gaslight with their tier lists.
@@arrhythmiticd8089 I hope you're OK.
I would handle both yall 😂 Smug you know what’s up. You understood my Sagat every time you came to Taito station in Shinjuku. The only black American who could go toe to toe with the Gods in 4
Bro relax you sound like a super villain that no one knows or cares about. Back to your basement lol
Intro was OD..
The more i look at 4 and 5…they released sf6 too soon 😂😂😂😂
Broken? Huh?
That dumb Akuma costume is the worst ever... like a bath robe. But that shitty hood and the "dress" looking bottom...
Feel like Im watching one piece, it just keep saying to be continued…yessir
Smuggles, can you stop posting all of these videos of you getting washed by Nuckledu. I much prefer seeing you win.