How Anson Mills Saved Ancient Grains of Rice From Extinction - Rooted
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- On this episode of Rooted, host Lucas Peterson speaks with grain expert Glenn Roberts to learn how he is cultivating a variety of Southern rice that disappeared after the Civil War.
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The thing that strikes me is how fortunate we are to be well enough fed that we can worry about things like flavor and culture rather than simply trying not to starve to death. I imagine that people from past centuries would be astonished that there would ever be a time that abundance was viewed as being less important than variety. Glad we can now focus on those ancient grains -- but glad that the abundance of less exciting grains makes that possible.
FYI guys Lucas is not back. This was filmed before he left. For those who do not know he is now with LA TIMES newspaper the newly revised food section.
Keep up with Lucas via either his Instagram staletwizzler or Twitter account.
damn X_X
10ashagirl - terrific. Thanks.
Your welcome, his Twitter account is @lucaspeterson where there are links to videos of his current work
This is a wonderful series! Food anthropology is one of my favorite subjects. Thank you, Eater!
Every time you selectively breed a plant for something, like larger or sweeter ears of corn, you run the risk of losing something else, often completely unrelated to the trait you're looking for. In some cases this can mean the plants lose resistance to disease, tolerance for harsh conditions, or even nutrition, etc. This has been done over and over many times to many of our modern strains of plants, which is why it's so incredibly important to keep the old strains alive.
With genetic engineering, it could be possible to take the disease resistance (for example) of a robust ancient rice and apply it to a modern rice which most people would consider tastier. Frankly I'd like to try eating some of those ancient foods.
I like the fact kept it real about Jim Crow.
@Brian Absurd interpretation of history. sheesh.
Out: "Really" incorrect. Not a good understanding of history.
Good to see Lucas Peterson back. Lucas squad, rise up!!!!
he's not back
iang I know he doesn’t work there anymore, I meant back in terms of seeing him on this channel again. He works for the LA Times right now.
what an incredible business story, "we ugh, didnt monetize" "we serve 5000 restaurants now". absolute unit. That's the way to think folks
This was great, it makes me so sad what has happened around the globe to polyculture. The same thing happened to rice in korea, they had like 100 varieties of rice, and then the japanese enforced monoculture on their rice production killing most of those varieties. Such a culinary and cultural loss
jack there are still numerous strains in Japan. Can Korea bring back varieties?
@@greghelton4668 food52.com/blog/23925-history-of-white-rice-in-korea I have no idea. This article mentions 1,400 varieties of korean rice being uncatalogued, sadly many of them may have disappeared forever or are now produced in such small quantities that it makes them economically infeasible.
@LagiNaLangAko23 exactly
I agree it is sad. I find it very cool the amount of variation that can be pulled from one species of plants. Hopefully if it becomes trendy to eat outside the small monocultural box some if these varieties can come back. It sure is a whole heck of a lot safer for any given species.
@LagiNaLangAko23
The problem with bananas is picky people.
The banana we grow can't exist without us, and creating a new variety means we have to meet (I think) 7 different criteria. Including ripening at the same time, being almost the same size(in each field), itty bitty seeds, etc.
Very nice to have Lucas back, enjoying this series.
The interviewer is excellent
This rice is amazing, I bought some a while back.
Right from the start I knew that his video would make me just be like this is how much food affects culture and where people live. My goofy ass would want to try all kinds of foods and learn where they are from and how they came about. Supply and demand of a good product that is rare will drive people to open up to try new things and change things.
Loving this series. Really informative.
@ZULU MATUBU there are no aboriginal Americans. Good Lord, science, anthropology, archeology etc are really things. You sound delusional.
Wow, what a serious and important video. Thanks to Lucas and the team, and Glenn Roberts!
Awesome, glad to see Lucas highlighting another wonderful company in the great state of SC. Anson Mills is a joy to work with and really do have incredible products.
Yay! Benson’s and Anson Mills finally getting that recognition 🙌🏼✨
Lucas back with rice as subject really compelled me to watch & keep waiting eagerly for the next video. Cool subject!
I found Anson Mills when I was looking for a wheat flour that wasn't harvested using glyphosate. Pricey, yes, but quality and wholesomeness is priceless.
oh my goodness I need to check that out as well! Thank you
@Brian You have no evidence that glyphosate tolerant wheat is less nutritious.None.
Great informative video. Now I'll try to find these varieties to eat.
My mother in law's family used to toast white rice in chopped pecans or hickory nuts and then add yellow rice from the south (she said the proportions changed over time) and then add water or broth. She made a custard with the rice cooked in water. She talked about this about fifty years ago. back then, brown rice took at least an hour of boiling to make it palatable.
Finally new Lucas Peterson content!!
Fascinating video. I never knew there was so much to know about rice.
Lucas videos two days in a row? We are blessed
Fascinating, informative..!.
Rice came to North America via Africa. Rice came to Cuba via Spain. Southern planters went to Africa to get rice and rice farmers whom they thanked for their intellectual property and knowledge of rice culture by enslaving them.
Yay Lucas is back!
The Lucas legend continues
People will complain that this rice is expensive. The video explains why. This is how rice should be. I live in SE Asia and rice is everything.
Been loving Anson Mills flour for years. It just makes insanely good home made bread. Gonna have to try out their rice at some point now.
Omg yessssss your BACK!! MISSED YOU SO MUCH
Anyone who watched this video and was intrigued, should check out "the vault seed"
They brush over the ecological value of planting a poly culture and these symbiotic plants. I'd guess they benefit from nitrifying bacteria, reducing the amount of nitrogen based fertilizer by a lot. Keeping the biomass in the earth is really imortant if you want to sustain a fertile farmland
Absolutely
Given this video is about eating and growing good rice and not polyculture growing methods, they did a good job.
Lucas ! Been too long. Good to see you presenting again. :D
Lucas is BACKKKKKKKKK!!!!
Very happy.
This is historically in accurate in regards to this Rice. However it did NOT come from West Africa it came through Madagscar via Southeast Asian immigrants that mixed with Bantu speakers on the island.
The West Africans domesticated Oryza Glabberima indigenous to the region. Extremely distinct.
What happened what the early rice cultivating Africans enslaved brought Red Rices that broke when removing chaff and was a provision rice. It's extinct for the most part in the U.S. but former enslaved Americans who migrated to Tobago still grow it. It's related to African Rice's found in maroon gardens in Suriname.
The Carolina gold rice came with slavers and traders that were in Madagascar that was put in the hands of skilled West Africans once back in the Carolinas.
Or it came to the Carolinas via Barbados which 1. Had the largest proportion of enslaved Malagasy and 2. Was the foundation of South Carolina society and colonization.
Ignoring the aspects of Malagasy contributions in the African cultures in the U.S. is wrong, especially because Malagasy descendants aware of their Malagasy roots still exist here and are all but forgotten other than in our families.
good theory most african dont eat javanica but eat basmati
@@050-ghiffaryramadhana9 that's East Africans who eat imported or locally grown Asian rice.
I'm talking about the history of rice cultivation in Madagascar and West Africa that have completely different rice complexes.
At the end of the video, they said that they don't know where this variety came from. You missed that part?
@@1flash3571 I've been studying rice cultivation for the better part of 5 years and the people who made this video literally didn't do their research because it derives a variety used as payment by a captain who came ashore during storm. Its related to Malagasy rice and not Glaberrima
Just because you got all your information from this video doesn't mean thats all the information to know or what I know.
@Grundy Malone Who said anything about race you simpleton. I am talking about the cultivars developed by a people/ethnic group.
Cultivars that developed a a result of hundreds of years of selective breeding on a community and regional level.
Its okay if you don't know the subject at hand, but interjecting like this makes you look stupid.
I'm glad to see them working to preserve these grains. With so much happening now in the rice industry, and the low quality of proteins and nutrients no longer found in rice and wheats in america(and China introduced plastic rice of all things), we need this ingenuity to preserve the quality.
Lucaaaaas is back!
I would love to taste that rice. It looks yummy!
I liked this video so much, I went to your site and spent $54 on rice and corn.
LUCAS IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! couldn't believe my eyes
HELL YEA Love seeing something positive about my home city!
I hope that sometime you can meet with Hawaiians and do a show about native taro (kalo). Issues here in the islands are similar to your rice feature.
LUCAS!!
Wow, that was so interesting! Would love to try those rare varieties.
make the origins of different types of rice a series, please
There are 2 species of rice: Asian rice aka oryza sativa and African rice aka oryza glabirrema. Both species were domesticated independently on their respective continents thousands of years ago.
Europeans found Africans growing vast fields of African rice in West Africa and brought 2 main types to the Americas: wetland types the main one which became known as Carolina Gold in the US South and was the major strain of commercial rice grown in the US for a couple centuries, and a dryland strain known as red bearded upland rice which is grown completely on dry land and hillsides. Thomas Jefferson imported a large cask of upland rice from Africa and distributed it to growers in the South hoping it could replace wetland rice in heavily mosquito prone areas, but because it required much more labour it did not catch on as a large commercial crop but was mostly grown by small farmers and as a subsistence crop mostly by slaves and free blacks.
Asian rice strains only replaced African rice strains in the US during and after the Civil War.
African red bearded upland rice was taken to the Caribbean island of Trinidad by runaway slaves from the US who had served in the British Royal Marines during the War Of 1812 and who were resettled on the island by the Brits after the war. That strain of rice is still grown commercially there and marketed under the name Moruga Hill Rice.
Many African strains of rice are still grown all over Africa.
The scientist just dismissed Indian rice as "whatever they did there" lol.
Yea I kind of got that from this piece. lots of glossing over important info.
1. The topic was Carolina varieties, no need to side track. 2. Indian rice variety origins may not be well documented.
My favorite is the bowtie guy and his "cheap, Honduran rice" as if that cultivar were of lesser nutritional value
I felt like Sean Brock was about to jump in front of the camera at any second.
Glad to see polyculture planting is getting more popular. Gabe Brown really inspired me to allow the weeds and see everything in the garden as a close knit community and everything has a purpose to serve, even the pest.
Is your rice "polished", does it have its bran layers? I ask this because it looks so white. The bran layers give exceptional flavor.
This makes me want to eat rice
Just had a thought. I wonder if anyone has ever thought of sampling plant material from ancient mattresses to see about recovering ancient species either through preserved seeds or DNA.
It was called the hot and hot fish club
Culturally, he truly did the world a favor.
the expert said that Carolina gold is from Asia, its not. Carolina Gold is Oryza glaberrima, a rice that was domesticated in West Africa which is why African slaves were knowledgeable about it.
I'm certain he misspoke but Reconstruction was the term given to the set of federal programs and policies that sought to enable and improve the socioeconomic, sociopolitical lot of the newly freed slaves and freed communities. Reconstruction-era policies included universal public education and voting rights and repatriation for Confederate soldiers. Jim Crow was a reactionary response to Reconstruction and included inequal sharecropping programs, chain-gangs, and voting restrictions. These are not the same thing.
Theres the reconstruction of what you learned in school what you mentioned, then there were the ways people saw forth to implement. Example, separate but equal at face value is reconstruction policy but not what it was suppose to be ideally..
Unfortunately, this response is an example of how clouded things has become over time. 'Separate but equal' is Jim Crow doctrine. In this case, the doctrine came from sets of state laws from 1887 (Florida) into the 1890 Louisiana state law - Separate Car Acts (re railways) where the phrase 'equal but separate" was co-opted for the doctrine. And does exactly what it meant to do, that is creating social, economic and political mechanisms to specifically, overturn reconstruction policies and laws. Some of the hints its Jim Crow ideology: 1. its post-Reconstruction Era (or near the end of it) in 1877, 2. the policy/law/doctrine was formulated and implemented on the state level, 3. exclusively direct impact on Southern states...
@LUIS VELEZ Partially correct. Of course white farmers knew how to grow their crops. The labor cost of freed blacks became prohibitive, and other crops that were more economical were then grown.
@LUIS VELEZ Freed blacks were NOT forced to return to the fields, nor to be share croppers. Eventually, millions of blacks left the south and farming for the cities.
BTW, how much should a man be compensated for working land he doesn't own, with equipment and horses he doesn't own, living in a house he doesn't own?
@@KB4QAA Most high paid professionals don't own the work, materials, and so forth that they use. Proper compensation is just that, proper compensation. Ownership is not a prerequisite for proper pay you jackass.
Nice video 🥰
I learn a lot.
I think I can eat more delicious rice.
Of course
Watching this made me think of the argument for genetically modifying rice to have certain vitamins in it to potentially help people in third world countries with deficiencies. we may be able to get around this whole problem by having market around growing certain kind of rices that already had these kind of nutrients in them but have been kept off the market due to cheap imports which are also bad for the environment. possibly more than one solution both environmental, world health and possibly economics depending on who you have grow the rice could be established by going back to a more natural way of allowing rice to grow. this was a great video.
What about cheap imports that are GOOD for the environment? You are making up "problems" out of whole cloth.
🌯Lucas is the Mr. Rogers of food 😜
I’ll watch anything staletwizzlers makes. Loved this story
Considering how much it costs to make they should try selling online as a specialty shop. People could buy them for parties & special dinners. Just to say hey this is an old world rice of such & such. It could come with an information packet as well.
People would pay a real premium just for the experience. Especially if you sold sets that come with a variety of different rice. Or meal kits designed to bring out the best flavors of the rice.
Seriously people would pay a lot more if it's a special one of a kind type experience.
They do sell it online ansonmills.com/products/23
The price is $6.95 per 14 oz. bag ($8/lb.), minimum order 4 bags plus shipping.
Umm, that IS what they do. They sell specialty rice.
LUCASS
I wonder if we could dedicate more land to these lower-yield, more delicious and nutritious grains if we dedicated less land to growing feed for livestock. I'd be happy to eat less meat if it meant my food ended up being tastier and healthier on the whole.
You would need companies and farmers that actually care preserving culture and tradition over newer ways and newer cultivars that maximize profits. The methods they used in this video are very traditional and more intensive. It doesn't matter what the individual consumer wants, but whether there are suppliers that will fill that demand and if there's enough demand in the entire population in the first place for such a specialized style of agriculture.
@@Liuhuayue I agree. Maybe tell hippies that it's a _superfood_ to generate that initial demand. It worked with quinoa 😀
DJ: Rice requires copious amounts of fresh water. "Rice is evil because it wastes our precious water and pollutes rivers and streams when it is pumped out". Take another side of the story. Rice is grown on only a small percentage of farm land, and largely in conditions that arent' as good for other crops. Leave the farming to farmers. They know the market demand, they know the land, they know the crops and animals.
@@KB4QAA the people in the video were farmers, weren't they?
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And no Roundup in sight. Nice
Rice is very important to Vietnamese food no doubt, an as a die hard New Yorker, I am embarrassed to say that Vietnamese food in New York has nothing on the Vietnamese food in Houston. Perhaps it's the warmer climate in Houston that has drawn more Vietnamese immigrants to the fourth largest city of the U.S., which helps ensure a steady flow of great Vietnamese food among other stellar offerings of Asian cuisine as well. So come eat a few Vietnamese dishes with me. My apologies in advance to my Vietnamese friends for butchering the pronunciation of the restaurant names.
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corn in snow--I am confused..cant all corn sit in snow?
indica rice? sounds hella dank
It's Latin, mush-for-brains.
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Great nutrition became secondary? Sadly so true
SK: That statement is just absurd. They had no idea of comparative nutritional value of different strains of rice. He tends to exaggerate things. Farmers get paid by the bushel for crops. Like any other crop, rice varieties were selected for best yield which maximized income.
Not to get on a soap box..but who else finds it funny that "they" want to use transgenic mutations to solve the ills of monoculture farming when these problems have already been worked out over centuries and centuries of hybridization and not narrowing everything down to 3, 2 or even 1 variety in the case if bananas. Who would of thunk it 💁
One of the secrets of that is that big ag seed companies almost entirely focus on whatever buyers complain about, which is mostly related to harvest & care (e.g. weeds, bugs, pounds per acre, etc). There was an NPR program on a few months ago where one of the folks involved mentioned that he had never heard anyone bring up the subject of e.g. taste until he coincidentally was in the same restaurant as a couple chefs who were attending a convention. Everyone "knows" that common foods taste boring, but this rarely if ever makes it's way to the folks that develop new varieties.
KKC: Monoculture farming has nothing to do with seed varieties or genetics.
Lol taste is secondary. The death of the small family farm is going to come back and bite us big time.
@@kreaturekomfortchannel3304 When was the last time you had a slice of bread and thought "This is a terrible wheat variety", or "This box of corn flakes is blander than last weeks". What is the taste difference between Pioneer 335-Y wheat and DeKalb R16? None., they all taste just fine with minimal difference. p.s. I'm writing this from my family farm in Ks.
[How Eater messed up How]
Typo in the title!?
All the jobs in the world and this scientist was like. "Rice. I want to study rice." Like what?
You need to re-train your cameraman. What is going on with the shaking camera view?! This was such a good interview and it's being ruined by your cameraman! I'm getting motion sick! Use a gimbal or tripod for goodness sake if you can hold that camera steady.
Gotta fix the first word of the title. It’s How instead of ow
*How
It would have been good if rice is taken in and delivered unpolished and protected from dangerous pesticide!
Yes, make customers accept a crop in a condition they don't want. Next: Ship dried corn on the cob and make consumers shell and grind their own corn meal!
To the invisible ghost choking the professor, please stop.
Wow an American eating rice often and not potatoes!
First?
wrong info
Difficult to watch. Why does it seem like Lucas Peterson's having trouble forming sentences?
Because he isn't a very good reporter.
When americans call asians rice eater, little do they know, white people also eat rice everyday
My iPhone Broke...can u lend me some rice so that my phone gets back to its original form
@ZULU MATUBU Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
No. It tastes terrible.
Soooo Because of Jim Crow & the Slave trade, I don't know anything about the history of my ancestors and we can't eat good rice anymore.
Well you can eat good rice, you just have to search around for it and pay $$$.
However, I'd say it was the Slave Trade and not Jim Crow that disconnected you from a straight lineage to your ancestral history. The slave owners didn't exactly care or keep records, after all.
@@recoil53 facts
@Brian I expect people to be people. Period.
The government does not set the standards there and this is a set of people who say they do the right thing without government regulation, are moral, and God fearing.
@@recoil53 Why would they have records? Some other tribe captured your ancestors in a war/raid, sold you to some Portuguese slave traders that carted them across the seas to America where they'd were then moved around and eventually sold. Owners likely kept records on your family from that point but during the civil war many plantations (The 1%ers of their time) were destroyed, burned and looted. Not to mention unless it was very carefully stored the paper records would break down in the heat, humidity and bugs.... That and technically since your family was now free why would they waste the time keeping those records?
They kept records on slaves back then, the problem is more of them surviving nearly 200 years.
@@SilvaDreams Why should they have slaves?
Cuz he makes fake plastic rice in Vietnam
"Rice was brought to India 4,500 years ago and hybridized with whatever the Indians were doing over there to produce indica". What a stupid statement, is this guy really a scientist, did anyone check his degree?
If the Indians already had rice to hybridize with, don't you mean "japonica was brought to India 4,500 years ago" rather than "rice was brought to India 4,500 years ago"? How the hell could they hybridize japonica unless they already had a rice to hybridize with?
We know that they were growing rice in India long before japonica arrived because we have actual rice kernels from the Indus Valley Civilization that predate japonica. So "whatever they were doing" was "growing rice". A more correct statement would be that when japonica arrived in India 4,500 years ago, Indians hybridized it with local varieties of rice that they had previously been growing, and the resulting hybrid had desirable traits so it became the dominant form of rice in India, and that is the origin of indica.
Sub17: 1. The topic was Carolina varieties, no need to side track. 2. Indian rice variety origins may not be well documented. 3. In any case, ancient Indian varieties are not germane to this show. "No" he isn't stupid.
subetai17 read between the lines. Cause noone cares
Geez! Get a professional cinematographer/film crew wtf the camera is so jerky. Do yourself a favor and buy a camera stand sheesh
Why do ppl like Lucas? He seems incredibly awkward and unfocused...
WHAT!!
I agree
10 lb of Carolina rice $69.90, 10 lb indian organic basmati rice 19.99!!!!!!!!!! Good Luck feeding a family rice 3 x a day at $69.90. Preserving rice for the rich and crap for the poor way to go and taking government money and research a long the way for free
Basmati rice is expensive compared to other rices. Most people with rice eating cultures aren't paying for basmati, they just can't afford it.
This guy has to pay American wages and apparently gives back seed crop to Native Americans (very poor) and researchers. He said he had to charge extra to chef's because of that. There is a lot of human work involved compared to the rice in episode one - and that was a high quality rice.
Now if you show the white haired guy is getting rich off this while everybody else is just getting buy, you have an argument.
I don't think he's preserving this for the rich, he just makes an expensive product. Other people (there are societies) are preserving these grains. They do it because there is historical and genetic value in it. They touched on that in the last part, if you watched.
Not every product has to be used every day to have value, that's the fast road to lowest common denominator.
@@recoil53
to debunk your arguments:
1-the basmati comparison was for a PRICE comparison of LIKES (high end organic varieties) add to that basmati has to be shipped from overseas.
2-The fact that he will provide seedlings to native Americans on request, he failed to mention if that ever happened! BTW he does not feed them they still have to grow it. Its a good sound bite though
3-Everybody is paying American wages and becoming millionaires in the process, if you can not do it, it is your problem.
4-Of course he is making money otherwise he would not be in business, this is not a charity you know
5-He is not charging chefs $70 for 10lb they would not be buy it, they run businesses too, they would not pay that ridiculous sum for rice. there are not enough chefs to make him rich
6- he charge $70 for 10lb (like PRIME BEEF) to ordinary blocks on his website check it out, bad business model if you ask me, he will not be able to sell to enough people at this price to make money
7-I agree there is value in preserving the seeds regardless, but please SPARE ME THE COMMERCIAL DRAMA you are in it to make money and that's the bottom line. Not to feed people, not to preserve seeds, not any of that crap, at least not at $70 for 10lb . They are just bad business people and produce even worse commercials
Not everybody is paying American wages. The basmati rice people are paying Indian wages. You might want to see where the stuff comes from.
You aren't pointing out how people in cultures that depend on rice can afford basmati easily.
Putting in a "maybe" isn't debunking anything.
Being a luxury isn't a real reason not to exist.
Rich people aren't eating this everyday either. Rice is not the main part of their diet.
@@recoil53 😯😲👌
JM: Ordinary rice is NOT crap.
This is just a terrible host,
Caucasian viewpoint. Bad research.
Bizarre claim.