This was incredibly useful, thank you very much for making this! I just had my catalytic converter stolen and in looking for replacements this was so helpful.
Hi Colby, is there big difference in repair cost (both labor and parts) in your muffler shop between between Gen 3 Prius Plug-In and regular Gen3 Prius? I've plug-In 2014, hope the catalytic converter assembly interchangeable since the cars looks inside and outside exactly the same (just different HV battery plus charging port) so you don't have to order anything special and repair cost should be about the same - right?
thanks. good analysis. my Gen 1Cat, according to Toyota, needs rerplacing. (california). price has come down. 2.3k. out the door, work done by them. as of 5/15/23. Protection is another matter. IMO, aluminum will not prevent thievery, maybe slow it down. Steel bars and plates, welded, seem to work. Also rebar. thanks again.
@@colbyoncars7563 Thanks for the reply, and the positive note on aluminum. Tell me, please, are you able to get cats for the 1st Gen Prius? Is there a long wait? Thanks.
Hey Colby, Hope you are doing well. So I recently had my two Catalytic converters from my 2022 Ram 1500 stolen. I found a guy in the forums that is willing to ship me the OEM ones he removed from the same truck but he is Kansas. Will these Cats being outta state work out here in california if they are OEM from same model truck? Thanks for the help
I would be cautious with buying used catalytic converters from anyone. In theory they should be okay. I would call the dealer and get a part number and confirm the sellers parts are a match.
Hi! Colby. Hope this message finds you. I have 2013 Prius and about a month ago my cat converter was stolen. So I put a cheap one for temporary and looking for an oem part. I saw that one in Craigslist but it was 2016, so it looks different than what I have. My question is , do you think that it is possible to cut and weld to mine and pass a smog check?
No. It’s not that it’s not possible to cut up the pieces and assemble something that would physically work, it’s that it won’t pass the visual part of the smog check. This video has some dated information and we are now using the Magnaflow part as a viable option, we currently have them in stock if you’d like to call the shop 916-421-0399.
Technically not legal in California, New York, or Colorado. OEM cats are specific to each vehicle. The Corolla’s are not PZEV rated and their cats don’t have the same conversion capability.
@@martinosvath5285 unless something has changed used converters are not legal in California. They used to allow recertification of old cats but that went away years ago.
We don't like to post figures online as prices can change and become misleading. As of right now 1/2/23 its around $3K including all the needed parts associated with a theft on a gen 2 or 3 Prius.
Hey Colby I wanted to ask here about if you had any Honda Odyssey’s, Toyota TundraPickup truck’s or Honda CR-V’s come in with into shop with stolen Cats? I was wondering cause the Toyota Tundra has been a target for Catalytic Converters and I’m surprised you don’t have a video of one of those. Now for the Odyssey, I might get a Honda Odyssey Gen Two and I’m worried about my Catalytic converter getting stolen cause I’ve seen a couple people with Gen 2 Odyssey’s become a victim of Catalytic Converter theft. I also noticed that the CR-V’s have been a target for Catalytic Converter theft too, my aunt has a 2008 Honda CR-V and had its Cat stolen (At least in Toronto where I live). Hopefully someday you can make a video of those Three cars and share protections of the Catalytic converter.
Hey Matthew, thanks for the comment. Yes we see Odyssey’s, and the other vehicles you mentioned. I’ve included them in other videos about insurance coverage and lists of vehicles to be aware of. I haven’t done specific ones on any of those but sooner or later I’ll get to them. It’s difficult to take time away from the customers and cars to do any of these so I do what I can. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
Hi Colby my 2015 cat got stolen, I called the shop for a price, they told me my test group doesn't match, I guess they guy that sold the car to me change the hood, it has a 2012 test group #...what are my options now, how to I get the right cat for my car as the hood # don't match my car..I hate those thief's🤬
Although we have seen your model periodically for a stolen underbody cat, it’s pretty infrequent. The reason this matters is in order for a company to justify production of of a part such as a shield there needs to be a high demand for it to make financial sense. Until your specific vehicle becomes a higher target I doubt we will see anything released for it.
With the price of aftermarket non-OEMs being so high, are you seeing them getting stolen as well? What about devising a fake clip on Magna to put over the OEM ;) ?
@@mufflertech do you think this one could get potentially stolen based on its similarities in looks? My cat got stolen yesterday in broad daylight while I was in the supermarket. They were quick fast smh.
@@Bennuides all cats have the potential of being stolen, but our data shows the aftermarket cats are way down on the risk factor. We would still recommend some sort of theft prevention.
Doesn’t the cat do cat things and keep the cars ecu happy? Whether it has a sticker on it or not?? I get you are trying to get business for your shop but the eBay cat will work it’s a direct replacement just because you cross state lines the car doesn’t stop working.
You’re missing the point. This is a video that applies to California and the other states that have adopted our rules. Just because a cat solves what the ECU is looking for doesn’t mean it has the correct certification to pass a visual test. Furthermore, the reason that the eBay and cheaper parts are less money is because they have less precious metal in them, they may keep the light off initially, but they will fall off their conversion rate much faster and will need to be replaced a lot sooner.
WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! Can I get my 15 minutes back? I have a 2009 Prius with 212,000 miles and the cat was NOT stolen but won't pass emissions. If all of the aftermarket cats are around the same price or more than the OEM Toyota one, I'll just buy the Toyota one. Problem is, I don't want to spend $3,000 on a 15 year old car with 212,000 miles. One thing I was wondering but you didn't address is... at this point, I don't care if it's illegal in New York, California and Colorado but will the aftermarket cats which say are illegal in the restrictive states, pass inspection in those states?
Geez, I hope my response isn’t a total waste of time for you. I’m not an expert on other states and their rules, but if they require your car to have no faults and or check engine lights, any aftermarket cat is risky as they are made below the standards of the OEM part and may not make enough conversion to meet the criteria the OBD monitors are looking for.
This was incredibly useful, thank you very much for making this! I just had my catalytic converter stolen and in looking for replacements this was so helpful.
My pleasure. Please contact us if we can help. 916-421-0399
Thank you for posting the video. It helped a lot.
Great information!
It's not great news but its accurate news.
Hi Colby, is there big difference in repair cost (both labor and parts) in your muffler shop between between Gen 3 Prius Plug-In and regular Gen3 Prius? I've plug-In 2014, hope the catalytic converter assembly interchangeable since the cars looks inside and outside exactly the same (just different HV battery plus charging port) so you don't have to order anything special and repair cost should be about the same - right?
Hi Colby, what's the level one protection for an HR-V OEM? We're in Roseville
We do roll bar on those. Please call for more details. 916-421-0399
I live in Arizona and have my prius registered there. My catalytic converter was stolen while visiting…
thanks. good analysis. my Gen 1Cat, according to Toyota, needs rerplacing. (california). price has come
down. 2.3k. out the door, work done by them. as of 5/15/23. Protection is another matter. IMO, aluminum will not prevent thievery, maybe slow it down. Steel bars and plates, welded, seem to work. Also rebar.
thanks again.
Thanks for the comment Will! The aluminum works very well, we have the data to prove it.
@@colbyoncars7563 Thanks for the reply, and the positive note on aluminum. Tell me, please,
are you able to get cats for the 1st Gen Prius? Is there a long wait? Thanks.
Hey Colby, Hope you are doing well. So I recently had my two Catalytic converters from my 2022 Ram 1500 stolen. I found a guy in the forums that is willing to ship me the OEM ones he removed from the same truck but he is Kansas. Will these Cats being outta state work out here in california if they are OEM from same model truck? Thanks for the help
I would be cautious with buying used catalytic converters from anyone. In theory they should be okay. I would call the dealer and get a part number and confirm the sellers parts are a match.
Hi! Colby. Hope this message finds you. I have 2013 Prius and about a month ago my cat converter was stolen. So I put a cheap one for temporary and looking for an oem part. I saw that one in Craigslist but it was 2016, so it looks different than what I have. My question is , do you think that it is possible to cut and weld to mine and pass a smog check?
No. It’s not that it’s not possible to cut up the pieces and assemble something that would physically work, it’s that it won’t pass the visual part of the smog check. This video has some dated information and we are now using the Magnaflow part as a viable option, we currently have them in stock if you’d like to call the shop 916-421-0399.
Colby what’s legality on repurposing another OEM cat for this purpose? For example, 03-07 corolla uses the same upper Flange, it’s an easy interchange
Technically not legal in California, New York, or Colorado. OEM cats are specific to each vehicle. The Corolla’s are not PZEV rated and their cats don’t have the same conversion capability.
@@mufflertech thanks Colby. How about recertifying used Prius converter (under EPA guidelines) considering scrap value today it’s only $800?
@@martinosvath5285 unless something has changed used converters are not legal in California. They used to allow recertification of old cats but that went away years ago.
What about a 2006 Accord 2.4L? It's not stolen, but not passing smog
This video addresses the vehicle certification
ruclips.net/video/mT1e4XSCfuk/видео.html
What is the price to install a oem catalytic converter at your shop? And thank you for the helpful video 👍
We don't like to post figures online as prices can change and become misleading. As of right now 1/2/23 its around $3K including all the needed parts associated with a theft on a gen 2 or 3 Prius.
Lot's of useful information 👍
Thanks!
Hey Colby I wanted to ask here about if you had any Honda Odyssey’s, Toyota TundraPickup truck’s or Honda CR-V’s come in with into shop with stolen Cats? I was wondering cause the Toyota Tundra has been a target for Catalytic Converters and I’m surprised you don’t have a video of one of those. Now for the Odyssey, I might get a Honda Odyssey Gen Two and I’m worried about my Catalytic converter getting stolen cause I’ve seen a couple people with Gen 2 Odyssey’s become a victim of Catalytic Converter theft. I also noticed that the CR-V’s have been a target for Catalytic Converter theft too, my aunt has a 2008 Honda CR-V and had its Cat stolen (At least in Toronto where I live). Hopefully someday you can make a video of those Three cars and share protections of the Catalytic converter.
Hey Matthew, thanks for the comment. Yes we see Odyssey’s, and the other vehicles you mentioned. I’ve included them in other videos about insurance coverage and lists of vehicles to be aware of. I haven’t done specific ones on any of those but sooner or later I’ll get to them. It’s difficult to take time away from the customers and cars to do any of these so I do what I can. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
What if you buy a universal CARB complaint catalytic converter that is not in that list and put it on your car?
CARB compliance isn’t just the part, the selected part has to have an executive order number on it that matches the engine group number.
@@mufflertech and will that work when the family engine number matches? Will it pass smog
@@digitalcurrency4737 yes
Hi Colby my 2015 cat got stolen, I called the shop for a price, they told me my test group doesn't match, I guess they guy that sold the car to me change the hood, it has a 2012 test group #...what are my options now, how to I get the right cat for my car as the hood # don't match my car..I hate those thief's🤬
do you have any idea how to shop for a shield for my lexus rx 450 h?
Although we have seen your model periodically for a stolen underbody cat, it’s pretty infrequent. The reason this matters is in order for a company to justify production of of a part such as a shield there needs to be a high demand for it to make financial sense. Until your specific vehicle becomes a higher target I doubt we will see anything released for it.
With the price of aftermarket non-OEMs being so high, are you seeing them getting stolen as well? What about devising a fake clip on Magna to put over the OEM ;) ?
Very rarely, and you're going to have a hard time fooling the thieves, they are likely more sophisticated than most assume.
Hey mate, would love to interview you for a piece on The Prius Cat debacle.
Sure, when can I help?
@@mufflertech Great! But not sure how to reach you. Are you on IG? Do you have a website?
@@CoutureGP mufflertech01@gmail.com
So no solution for the 1st gen Prius?
No. The first gen is fading in numbers so it doesn’t make sense for aftermarket companies to spend the money to produce an option.
Time out! Do the aftermarket cats have the same metals inside that the cat burglars are looking for⁉️
Yes, but they don’t have the same value when they are turned in for the recycling as there is no infrastructure for evaluating their content.
@@mufflertech do you think this one could get potentially stolen based on its similarities in looks? My cat got stolen yesterday in broad daylight while I was in the supermarket. They were quick fast smh.
@@Bennuides all cats have the potential of being stolen, but our data shows the aftermarket cats are way down on the risk factor. We would still recommend some sort of theft prevention.
Doesn’t the cat do cat things and keep the cars ecu happy? Whether it has a sticker on it or not?? I get you are trying to get business for your shop but the eBay cat will work it’s a direct replacement just because you cross state lines the car doesn’t stop working.
You’re missing the point. This is a video that applies to California and the other states that have adopted our rules. Just because a cat solves what the ECU is looking for doesn’t mean it has the correct certification to pass a visual test. Furthermore, the reason that the eBay and cheaper parts are less money is because they have less precious metal in them, they may keep the light off initially, but they will fall off their conversion rate much faster and will need to be replaced a lot sooner.
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WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! Can I get my 15 minutes back?
I have a 2009 Prius with 212,000 miles and the cat was NOT stolen but won't pass emissions. If all of the aftermarket cats are around the same price or more than the OEM Toyota one, I'll just buy the Toyota one.
Problem is, I don't want to spend $3,000 on a 15 year old car with 212,000 miles.
One thing I was wondering but you didn't address is... at this point, I don't care if it's illegal in New York, California and Colorado but will the aftermarket cats which say are illegal in the restrictive states, pass inspection in those states?
Geez, I hope my response isn’t a total waste of time for you.
I’m not an expert on other states and their rules, but if they require your car to have no faults and or check engine lights, any aftermarket cat is risky as they are made below the standards of the OEM part and may not make enough conversion to meet the criteria the OBD monitors are looking for.
What about 02
Not at this time