Bob Knight’s beef with Indiana was the result of an “emperor” losing power

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  • Опубликовано: 3 мар 2023
  • You may know Bob Knight from the many NCAA and Big 10 championships he won as coach of Indiana University, but more likely, you know him as the coach who threw a chair.
    For over two decades Bob Knight could behave however he wanted with no repercussions. Throw a chair, scream at a ref, scream at a player, choke a player, curse at a player... wait... choke a player?!
    When that one hit national press years after the alleged incident occurred, IU was like... "uh, we should probably do something." Guess who didn't like that? (Bob Knight) (sorry to give away the answer right away).
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  • @QuartzGolem
    @QuartzGolem Год назад +2023

    The lengths people will go to defend someone they don't know personally will never cease to puzzle me.

    • @jordanalexander5275
      @jordanalexander5275 Год назад

      I know, like how half the country voted for Biden even though dementia has set in. Or how the other half voted for an egomaniac, amongst other mental issues. Humans are strange. Until you grow up in indiana, watch your home team win multiple championships, see former iu players have amazing success in multiple fields, you just can't understand how deep it runs. It's easy to pick apart and say, how could you support this person? I'm sure you could do the same for a lot of championship teams through history, Adolph Rupp could be considered a racist, Kentucky still has his name on their arena

    • @Sele1908
      @Sele1908 Год назад +176

      Just look at some Trump supporters.

    • @jennytool1348
      @jennytool1348 Год назад +56

      @@Sele1908 bro get outside and shoot some hoops, don’t even stress em.

    • @mellow.madness
      @mellow.madness Год назад +77

      Or condemn someone we don't know either.

    • @jordanalexander5275
      @jordanalexander5275 Год назад +56

      @@Sele1908 or biden supporters, both sides are out of touch with reality

  • @samortmann5003
    @samortmann5003 Год назад +1304

    Bobby Knight is the prime example of what you can get away with in college sports if you're good at your job

    • @AlexEich
      @AlexEich Год назад

      You can get away with anything if you're a white coach in Indiana Basketball. All that state cares for is abortion billboards and college basketball.

    • @DarthKotEI
      @DarthKotEI Год назад +13

      Even today

    • @FreeFoodforthePoor
      @FreeFoodforthePoor Год назад +3

      Which is why he had so many NBA greats come through his program, right? Or why his teams after beating basketball powerhouse Rony Seikaly were so successful?

    • @TheFrostbite324
      @TheFrostbite324 Год назад +38

      Just look at Urban Meyer

    • @dustinolvey8877
      @dustinolvey8877 Год назад +21

      Or too many people's idea of a strong disciplinarian.

  • @nevingutierrez241
    @nevingutierrez241 Год назад +814

    This isn't beef, this straight criminal

    • @Yzyenthusiast
      @Yzyenthusiast Год назад +134

      @@janoycresnova9156 brother choking someone and brandishing a gun at another is not legal

    • @samortmann5003
      @samortmann5003 Год назад +105

      @@janoycresnova9156 Did you watch the video? He choked Neil Reid, punched a cop in Puerto Rico (which he was found guilty of), and multiple other instances of assault.

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread Год назад +44

      @@janoycresnova9156 Intimidation, assault, etc.

    • @unbilletal
      @unbilletal Год назад +23

      Enlightened

    • @brandonmorris92
      @brandonmorris92 Год назад +1

      @@janoycresnova9156 You must be fun at parties.

  • @IRuiz805
    @IRuiz805 Год назад +348

    The player he choked during the Indiana practice is Neil Reed, he was my P.E. teacher my sophomore year of High School, his class of one of the few I actually liked, sadly he passed away from a heart attack in 2012 that was the summer before my senior year.
    R.I.P Mr. Reed

    • @superdupersubby
      @superdupersubby Год назад +31

      Damn a fellow panther in the chat, small world we live in. I graduated in 2012 and I remember his death brought many of us back a few months after that summer. I'll always remember him making a no look half court shot during P.E class, the whole gym went nuts lol

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад +25

      @@superdupersubby Damn that is pretty nuts to find someone who went to the same high school as you in youtube comments lol

    • @IRuiz805
      @IRuiz805 Год назад +13

      @@superdupersubbythat's crazy how we're both in the comments and we went to the same high school lol, you graduated one year before me so we pretty much went to school together for 3 years lol that's crazy.
      Yea man his class was fun that's the one class I never ditched lol.
      It's also crazy he came out on ESPN when he died they even did a report on him and they interviewed his wife, I recorded it on snapchat and I still have it saved

    • @IRuiz805
      @IRuiz805 Год назад +6

      @@AspireGMD yea crazy bro, what's even crazier is that he graduated in 2012 and I did in 2013, so we pretty much went to school 3 years together lol. We probably passed each other In the hall or maybe even had a class together without even knowing

    • @555dking
      @555dking Год назад

      He was young:(

  • @YerpDerp17
    @YerpDerp17 Год назад +751

    I was a massive basketball fan (still am), age 12 growing up in a small town about 45 minutes east of IU. My dad was obsessed with college basketball, calling it "real basketball". While I was a massive NBA and Reggie Miller fan. I always disliked Bob Knight, and even at my young age I could tell he was an unhinged coach. This story was huge local news here in Indiana, and I remember so many people defending him and downplaying all the stuff he did. Basketball, especially college basketball was royalty in Indiana. It was like one of my first times as a kid at seeing a large number of people get presented with actual facts, and them still passively ignoring them, all for the sake of their favorite team. This was probably my first time realizing the power of celebrity, and how some people really do become invincible. Or how we set standards or have a base set of morals we have for other people, that can be switched off if you happen to like that person, or attach your identity to a team.
    Ah I will stop rambling, this video brought up so many memories though. lol It was very well done and really explainedit all in a nice summarized way without leaving out anything important.

    • @grantcastleman7116
      @grantcastleman7116 Год назад +15

      i agree he was wrong for many things…but u ask 90% of his players they loved playing for bobby…and they won a lot…criticize him but he was the GOAT for a long time and brought up the one who says passed him in Coach K…Knight did dumb some things but he deserve some respect.

    • @PC-dh7mu
      @PC-dh7mu Год назад +9

      Was this the preeminent "small town" east of Bloomington? Seymour?
      I grew up an hour south of Bloomington. I assume you also saw Texas Tech clothing start popping up all over the area.

    • @josephwhiteside2739
      @josephwhiteside2739 Год назад +61

      People were demanding that his players put up with behavior that they themselves would not tolerate.

    • @juliocardenas4485
      @juliocardenas4485 Год назад +1

      Thank you for the context

    • @djtrankilo231
      @djtrankilo231 Год назад +14

      Reminds me of Penn State students with Joe Paterno

  • @lincolnwright7896
    @lincolnwright7896 Год назад +379

    I can’t think of a single thing Bob Knight didn’t have beef with

    • @evancase3087
      @evancase3087 Год назад +44

      Bro probably had beef with beef. 😭

    • @battlestar65
      @battlestar65 Год назад +11

      stg he had beef with my buddy eric ☠️☠️

    • @pats4lifebb
      @pats4lifebb Год назад +4

      Donald trump

    • @iAintSayDat
      @iAintSayDat Год назад +1

      The win column. That’s about it.

    • @jordanalexander5275
      @jordanalexander5275 Год назад +5

      ​@@iAintSayDatdude had the last undefeated team. So...

  • @Mrfostie
    @Mrfostie Год назад +580

    this is insane. he was an abusive tyrant for 30 years, faced mild consequences after years of being let off easy, and then disowned the school and wished death upon everyone responsible for the next 20 years. guy deserves no respect

    • @chrisguastaferro6147
      @chrisguastaferro6147 Год назад +69

      He got offended when they decided not to kiss his ass and actually stand up to him

    • @cd6xc
      @cd6xc Год назад +19

      The players he coached really like him, still. I don't think the guy doesn't have any qualities, but I think giving him a free pass for such a long time just exacerbated his stubbornness and anger issues. Why change if everyone pats you in the back at the end?

    • @themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545
      @themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 Год назад +14

      Things are better today. He would’ve been canceled so fast. The world truly is a better place with cancel culture

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад +12

      @@themilwaukeebrewerswillnev7545 Is this comment sarcastic?

    • @user-ix6fl6pb1z
      @user-ix6fl6pb1z Год назад

      You are a pu$$y. Let’s meet up

  • @mactheknife7049
    @mactheknife7049 Год назад +316

    Bob Knight is a classic case of three things: (i) the level to which people will forgive offenses of a reprehensible person if they have a particular talent that can be exploited, and (ii) the level to which power can be accumulated over time, to a point of being unchecked by anyone, even those technically in positions of authority above you, and (iii) the inability of a person to adapt to the world around them, growing ever indignant of change, and ever intractable in their stubbornness to repel change. Had he not been successful, and at Indiana in particular, he'd have been a vagabond coach along the likes of Larry Brown (but with repeated firings rather than resignations).

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад +2

      I'm a "nice person"; hire me to coach

    • @beatnik09
      @beatnik09 Год назад +35

      ​@@darrengordon-hill I'm sorry your favorite basketball coach is an awful and abusive person

    • @franknbeans2623
      @franknbeans2623 Год назад

      If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their ass when they jump

    • @ericrobinson7861
      @ericrobinson7861 Год назад +2

      “Particular talent that can be exploited” that’s a weird way to say Value lol

    • @cybercrasherstv
      @cybercrasherstv Год назад +12

      ​@@darrengordon-hillincel posting

  • @brandobattise
    @brandobattise Год назад +491

    The fact that THOUSANDS of students protested after ALL the stuff he did says a lot about them

    • @DJ_BROBOT
      @DJ_BROBOT Год назад

      I went to IU during that time...its because so many kids from across the country came to IU for Knight. It took the balls of President Brand, who then became the commissioner of the NCAA, to do the dirty work and get him out and stop the psychophants in Bloomington from enabling that fool.

    • @evanmonacelli7715
      @evanmonacelli7715 Год назад +59

      Well the people of Indiana have always thought a little funny😂😂

    • @jordanalexander5275
      @jordanalexander5275 Год назад +22

      The same college that gave you the Kinsey institute, where he studied the sexuality of children(even babies) and gave child abusers journals so he could learn about their process, not to keep abuse from happening though.. iu is a funny place, and bob knight is still loved in this state no matter what all the hit pieces may say

    • @emcee_spokesman
      @emcee_spokesman Год назад

      Meh, speaks more to the power of groupthink when it's organized around a collective identity like team sports. Look at all the people who defended Joe Paterno even after it was clear he covered up child r@pe

    • @sethwick8348
      @sethwick8348 Год назад +43

      @@jordanalexander5275 Kinsey studied important stuff. People don't go from completely nonsexual to sexual when they turn 18, the development of sexuality in children is a topic worth study. I know I was definitely interested in sex and reproduction starting around 7.

  • @natemarx4999
    @natemarx4999 Год назад +271

    Bobby Knight was basically the Suge Knight of NCAA Basketball.

    • @Hazztech
      @Hazztech Год назад +16

      Suge knight had no talent of his own. Is that really appropriate?

    • @samortmann5003
      @samortmann5003 Год назад +19

      ​@@Hazztech Plus I don't think Bobby Knight ever injected any of his players with HIV.

    • @evanmonacelli7715
      @evanmonacelli7715 Год назад +5

      @@Hazztech may not have been him but in the same ball park lol both bad guys…

    • @evanmonacelli7715
      @evanmonacelli7715 Год назад +1

      @@samortmann5003 why are you standing up for the old fool he was an awful guy sorry your hero is morally bankrupt🥲

    • @97NikeSb
      @97NikeSb Год назад +3

      @@Hazztech you do realize suge played in the NFL right?

  • @ryanchase9332
    @ryanchase9332 Год назад +126

    This wasn't a beef between Knight and Indiana U. It was a beef between Knight and being a decent human being.

    • @joeblow9657
      @joeblow9657 Год назад +11

      IMO it wasn't even that it was a beef between Knight and being held to a base level of accountability.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 Год назад +29

    If Indiana were still winning, he wouldn't have been fired.
    People are insane.

    • @karmicobsession1636
      @karmicobsession1636 Год назад +3

      1000% true

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Год назад +9

      Also, if Indiana were still winning after he was fired, those sheeple will forget about him faster. Just look at Penn State.

  • @superdupersubby
    @superdupersubby Год назад +15

    Reed was a P.E teacher in my school, he was always one of the cool ones. One time in Senior year he found me and my friend ditching weights class and just told us to scram back to class instead of reporting us. RIP Mr. Reed.

  • @Dowsynn
    @Dowsynn Год назад +143

    I love every Secret Base video, but I LOVE a Clara Morris narrated Secret Base video. Funny, insightful writer with charisma and natural delivery.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Beta simp needs mommy

    • @janb7361
      @janb7361 Год назад +11

      She's really incredible at this

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад

      @@matthewjordan6957 Uhhh, why exactly?

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад +5

      @@matthewjordan6957 Because you're calling someone's comment pathetic for literally no reason?

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад

      @@matthewjordan6957 Hmm, must be Clara's ex or something.

  • @tysonsutton9621
    @tysonsutton9621 Год назад +342

    “The Last Days of Knight” is an outstanding documentary and does an excellent job of highlighting what a terrible human being Bobby Knight is. Neil Reed deserved better.

    • @charismatic9904
      @charismatic9904 Год назад +12

      Reed was a weak pansy lol.

    • @jerryneil8558
      @jerryneil8558 Год назад

      @@charismatic9904 so you would accept someone putting their hands around your throat and choking you like Knight did

    • @raimarulightning
      @raimarulightning Год назад +70

      ​@@charismatic9904 Damn. You feel cool now?

    • @charismatic9904
      @charismatic9904 Год назад +4

      @@raimarulightning lmao. Touch a nerve did I?

    • @charismatic9904
      @charismatic9904 Год назад +8

      @@jerryneil8558 oh stop he never put his hands around and choked. At worst he put 1 hand on his neck and held firmly.
      And im not even a knight fan but jesus u people love to exaggerate

  • @jeanlobrot
    @jeanlobrot Год назад +87

    Bob knight is indianas abusive ex that they just can’t let go of. Defending him is gross and unnecessary

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Feel better now???

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Год назад +2

      What IU actually need that time was a higher-calibre coach who can brought instant success just so the fans can forget Bobby fast.
      I mean, look at Penn State with Bill O'Brien and James Franklin.

    • @AspireGMD
      @AspireGMD Год назад +16

      @@darrengordon-hill Let me guess, Indiana fan?

  • @ryanzepp8897
    @ryanzepp8897 Год назад +21

    Clara Morris will write and narrate my nonexistent storied sports career

  • @taylorb5039
    @taylorb5039 Год назад +71

    My favorite part of Saturday, thank you Clara and co !!

  • @seanyfresh
    @seanyfresh Год назад +32

    The donkey in Purdue gear is low key hilarious

    • @skippythealien9627
      @skippythealien9627 Год назад +1

      it's crazy that Bob Knight and Gene Keady (legendary Purdue coach) are good friends considering how much Knight loathed all things Purdue. Also, by all accounts Gene Keady was never remotely close to being the sociopath lunatic that Bob Knight was...although I admit that's jumping over a low bar lol

  • @subtlebluntduality5997
    @subtlebluntduality5997 Год назад +100

    Great video. A reason why he was this way goes back to his time as a college basketball player at Ohio State. He used to watch the football practices when Woody Hayes coached the team because he admired him. A lot of the stuff you saw with Bobby Knight, you saw with Woody Hayes. Supposedly he was warned not to follow Hayes' example too closely because eventually he was going to go too far, which is what happened when he punched an opposing Clemson player in the 1978 Gator Bowl and got fired as a result. As a matter of fact, you should do a Rewinder on that Woody Hayes incident.

    • @prophet2nations
      @prophet2nations Год назад +19

      Always love the additional context of beef to be found in the comments. Learn something new after the video

    • @lucashenderson2775
      @lucashenderson2775 Год назад +22

      This is a very important detail. He's practically a mirror image of Woody Hayes: Untouchable because of their success, program linked to the state's identity and self esteem, only removed when it became completely unjustifiable to keep them.

    • @Babyd1112
      @Babyd1112 Год назад +2

      An espn show called top 5 reasons you can't blame... They had an episode on bob Knight, and mention woody.

    • @lucashenderson2775
      @lucashenderson2775 Год назад +7

      @@Babyd1112 I remember seeing that here on RUclips one day when I was bored. In that segment, one of the papers even had a cartoon of Bob looking into the mirror and seeing Woody Hayes instead of his reflection.

    • @freakyfornash
      @freakyfornash Год назад +6

      Frank Kush was another example of a hard nosed coach, who got the best out of his players whom he worked to death, but eventually crossed the line, and would lose his job as a result too.

  • @iAintSayDat
    @iAintSayDat Год назад +232

    That's the problem with being a tyrant. Once you can no longer dominate, you get kicked to the curb with the same lack of mercy you showed.
    Edit: RIP

    • @grantcastleman7116
      @grantcastleman7116 Год назад +2

      he was still dominating…

    • @lucashenderson2775
      @lucashenderson2775 Год назад +34

      ​@@grantcastleman7116 In his last 6 years at Indiana, he never made it past the 1st weekend of the tournament. The game had passed him by.

    • @grantcastleman7116
      @grantcastleman7116 Год назад +2

      @@lucashenderson2775 he made the tournament every year thats still great

    • @isaacpeachey8609
      @isaacpeachey8609 Год назад +9

      @@grantcastleman7116 Yeah. He was dominating his lazy boy recliner.

    • @nothanksguy
      @nothanksguy Год назад +8

      ​@@grantcastleman7116 thats not dominant tho. Making the tournament and losing 1st round every year isn't successful enough to cover his ass like final 4 appearances and championships.

  • @Andy-po3ip
    @Andy-po3ip Год назад +37

    The most important part of his 2020 comeback, Purdue won that game.

    • @jumpingbombangels2856
      @jumpingbombangels2856 Год назад +2

      And still have 0 national titles 😢😂

    • @phytonso9877
      @phytonso9877 Месяц назад

      74-62. It's the little things that get you through this life.

  • @lewrl1
    @lewrl1 Год назад +23

    You know it's a good-ass video when the commentator straight-up calls one of the people involved a "monster" 2 minutes in.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      It's good that women call men "monster" for no reason??
      Not THE RAPIST... just, a guy she dislikes??
      Beta simp.

    • @shoeboxbistro
      @shoeboxbistro Год назад

      You know the cop schloppy is gonna be good when the cop is hunky

    • @flow81929
      @flow81929 Год назад

      ​@Darren Gordon-Hill are you dumb? Stfu you're humiliating yourself

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      @@flow81929 Are you able to explain WHY I'm wrong... or are you just triggered by the word "rape ?

  • @sethwick8348
    @sethwick8348 Год назад +22

    The defense of an abusive coach reminds me of Penn State students protesting removing a statue of Joe Paterno for covering up extensive child sex abuse by his assistant coach.

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Год назад

      And then Bill O'Brien made them forget about that in record time.
      Thinking about it, maybe what IU need back then was hiring big names and bringing them instant success so those corn-eating sheeple could move on sooner.

    • @jayclean5653
      @jayclean5653 11 месяцев назад +1

      Or Michigan with Bo

  • @TheMan750
    @TheMan750 Год назад +18

    Love that last part by Clara, tells you more than anything how passionate fans would go to defend him, even if they weren’t even alive when he was fired

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 11 месяцев назад

      Getting Bart Simpson to do the voice over is such a genius move by secret base.

  • @yurmumsgjey
    @yurmumsgjey Год назад +63

    Nothing like a middle aged man who enjoys screaming at 18-22 year olds with abuse of authority

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      No you're right... middle aged WOMEN is the solution!!
      More single mommas telling their kids to hit opponents for fouling them...
      Black women built like linebacker shouting at undersized white male refs... and if those refs complain, they'll be accused of "racist misogyny"

    • @zds8291
      @zds8291 Год назад +1

      That’s college sports for you lmao

    • @jumpingbombangels2856
      @jumpingbombangels2856 Год назад

      98% graduation rate

    • @cybercrasherstv
      @cybercrasherstv Год назад +6

      ​@@jumpingbombangels2856that's a funny way of saying "all of the students wanted to get the hell out of there"

    • @jumpingbombangels2856
      @jumpingbombangels2856 Год назад +6

      @@cybercrasherstv By staying all 4 years and getting their degree? That’s a strange and long way to “get the hell out of there”

  • @joboee
    @joboee Год назад +16

    It goes to show in sports, as long as you are winning, fans will put up with damn near anything

  • @pineapplegamer6986
    @pineapplegamer6986 Год назад +88

    I loved this episode. No one ever openly talks about this when you’re a fan of IU basketball, merely whispers or offhand comments.

  • @logank
    @logank Год назад +9

    Current IU student and IU basketball fan. I never really understood why people look past all this, but I can confirm many people in the area still very much so treat Bob Knight like royalty for some reason.

  • @ethanwu6016
    @ethanwu6016 Год назад +8

    I just watched the ESPN doc on Knight, crazy coincidence that this come out so soon

  • @KingDizzleLTDinc.
    @KingDizzleLTDinc. Год назад +12

    “Wiping himself and showing the team the toilet paper.” That is a wow and disgusting moment

  • @ChimpPimpin42069
    @ChimpPimpin42069 Год назад +11

    IU's relationship with Bob Knight is similar an abusive parent. No matter what that parent does (choking, punching, screaming), the kid still does everything to receive the love of said parent

  • @KevinQuinn81
    @KevinQuinn81 Год назад +15

    Well written. I used to be a Knight apologist in my youth but as I've grown, I just see him now only as the bully he is.

  • @Evs78101
    @Evs78101 Год назад +41

    Hell yes. Great pick for a beef history. Makes me wanna throw a chair

  • @Pranaynaynay
    @Pranaynaynay Год назад +61

    It's kind of sad to think that Knight might never have had consequences if the on court performance of the team stayed top tier
    we kind of see echoes with how urban meyer was able to employ awful abusers and assaulters and not have repurcussions and how many people protested when Joe Paterno was fired after Sandusky's evil crimes were revealed

    • @cybercrasherstv
      @cybercrasherstv Год назад +5

      Then urban went to an NFL team, and couldn't last an entire season

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 9 месяцев назад +2

      More echoes in how many people defend Gym Jordan aka Sandusky 2.0 in Ohio, simply because he's a republican.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 Год назад +88

    Be careful Clara... You might get death threats from these delusional fans holding on to their success from 40 years ago...

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 9 месяцев назад +2

      40 years ago?? Half of those fans are dead, and the other half are on mobility scooters at this point. Clara could simply out walk them laughing all the way.

  • @reedbell365
    @reedbell365 Год назад +4

    “Nobody ever explained that to me”. ZERO TOLERANCE. Really 😅

  • @Flow_Easy
    @Flow_Easy Год назад +100

    That's what's wrong with these kids! How dare they not want to be choked or disrespected?! Those kids are the definition of soft. We need more tough coaches like Bob Knight!
    Sarcasm. I'm all for coaches and people in authority holding their students/players accountable, but putting your hands on people is unnecessary. Mr Knight should be happy none of those young men introduced him to a nap.

    • @poeticfrost619
      @poeticfrost619 Год назад

      Those young men would've been lynched by the state of Indiana. They should be happy they didn't knock him out

    • @thehappysmiler6752
      @thehappysmiler6752 Год назад +15

      I'm surprised that none of those kids gave him a two piece. No fries and chips of course.

    • @nothanksguy
      @nothanksguy Год назад

      ​@@thehappysmiler6752 fr! If a fat old man like bob knight did that to me id throw his ass on the ground and ask if he wants to keep getting physical

    • @keithharper1470
      @keithharper1470 Год назад +7

      He knew who he could do it to and get away with it he never tried it on guys like Isaiah or Mike Woodson those guys were tough kids from tough neighborhoods and had tough parents. Knight respected that he knew where that line was with them.

  • @mcj88
    @mcj88 Год назад +89

    This sort of thing is what happens when Winning is more important than Treating People With Basic Dignity.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      They hand out million dollar contracts and trophies for "being nice"??

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Do the Olympics exist to "treat people with basic dignity"??
      Cos those using PEDs didn't get that memo...

    • @mcj88
      @mcj88 Год назад +32

      @@darrengordon-hill Whataboutism.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      @@mcj88
      Virtue signalling

    • @wanderlustwarrior
      @wanderlustwarrior Год назад +10

      ​@@darrengordon-hill why are you so triggered and personally offended?

  • @JR_Donofrio
    @JR_Donofrio Год назад +25

    You can do an entire mini series on Bobby Knight Beef

  • @DGS2605
    @DGS2605 Год назад +5

    I put these on sometimes for background noise, as the video goes on, I'm thinking "How did this guy have his job for so long? Was this the 50s?".
    Imagine if this guy wasn't coaching young men on scholarships and had to deal with grown men who had leverage against him. He'd get his ass beat before the 2nd practice.

  • @M-Myrtle-R
    @M-Myrtle-R Год назад +12

    I love Clara Morris!!! She is the absolute best and is now the face of this channel when I think about it😂😂😊😊

  • @zakberliner7926
    @zakberliner7926 Год назад +3

    I was an IU student from 2012-2016, but I’m originally from California, so I had no stake in the game. The way I saw it, he was a nut job whose firing was inevitable and a good move for the university. My convictions were hardened after the whole Mike Rice thing at Rutgers. However, I was one of the only ones who felt this way. Most people I spoke to, from the IU or Bloomington communities, still defended him and viewed him as the wronged party. The failings of the university in basketball were because he was fired (ignoring the lack of success in the late ‘90s). People still went wild when he’d come up on the big board before games, either as a photo or the clip of him throwing the chair.
    Then the opinion of him slowly started to change. I had heard that for a while, he hadn’t even come to Bloomington. But he slowly started to probe, having speaking events off campus. People started to see him as a crazy grudge-holding old man when he refused to come to Guyton’s Hall of Fame ceremony. That perception was amplified when he didn’t come to the ceremony for the 1976 team, despite literally everyone wanting him to. Even his son tried to tell him to come back. He also stumped for Trump in southern Indiana during the 2016 election, which turned off some of the IU and Bloomington population (Bloomington is possibly the most liberal city in the state).
    When he finally came back, a lot of the people I spoke to were a bit apathetic, like it was too little, too late. When Woodson, a Hoosier legend under Knight, was hired, that completed the healing. Now Bobby has attended practices. Meanwhile, Guyton is a trustee. Yet I’m sure most people still view him as a god there, ignoring all the things he did.

  • @4eve-R
    @4eve-R Год назад +6

    can we appreciate how the music makes all of Secret Bases videos that much more intriguing to watch??

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Music is awful and emotionally manipulative
      Typical for a woman

  • @pathutchison7688
    @pathutchison7688 Год назад +29

    Seems to me that the turning point for Indiana Basketball was their opening game of the season , when they lost to coach Pete Bell and his Western University. Of course that Weatern team DID have freshmen Shaq & Penny Hardaway to go along with Ricky Roe’s shooting, and they still had Tony playing his senior year (this was before the truth of Tony’s point shaving during his freshman year came to light). Indiana never really recovered from that, being that their best player at the time was Calvert Cheaney.

    • @sfrank8687
      @sfrank8687 Год назад +6

      Hahaha

    • @Adamdidit
      @Adamdidit Год назад +8

      A Blue Chips reference in 2023. ❤

    • @pathutchison7688
      @pathutchison7688 Год назад +6

      @@Adamdidit it’s an underrated classic

    • @williamgullett5911
      @williamgullett5911 Год назад +2

      Tony fluked television

    • @pathutchison7688
      @pathutchison7688 Год назад

      @@williamgullett5911 yea but that class is hard. It’s not just watching the tube. And anyway he got a tutor. His point shaving was a much bigger issue. Damn Happy.

  • @Riles3152
    @Riles3152 Год назад +10

    Knight is a top 5 coach in college basketball history, that never committed any violations (that we know of), graduated his players and got the absolute best out of there abilities. But the guy, his temper and his ego, was out of control and enabled for too long at that University. He got what he deserved.

  • @dannyboy1200
    @dannyboy1200 Год назад +9

    Let's be honest. If in the last couple years before his firing he won a couple championships he'd never have been fired.

  • @georgesouthwick7000
    @georgesouthwick7000 Год назад +9

    As long as Indiana was winning Big 10 and NCAA championships, the university was willing to put up with his behavior. When the Hoosiers started being less successful, the university was looking for a reason to get rid of Knight, and Bobby handed them the reason on a silver platter.

    • @dre-p3058
      @dre-p3058 8 месяцев назад +1

      That's not right either

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 5 месяцев назад

      Bobby created his own destruction too. Like many abusive people, they usually have a system where they create dependence and stockholm syndrome, which they deny, gaslight, call the victims whiners and soft(like all the comments section trolls are doing) and their victims will defend them until the end. But once he started stepping over that line and the top recruits started running away to be treated with some dignity, they started losing. He couldnt leverage the IU name to win for him anymore, and that was his biggest mistake. Because his behavioral issues were intentional, not at all a mistake.

  • @codycannefaxjr.616
    @codycannefaxjr.616 Год назад +31

    I used to be really good friends with his grandson. He told me personally a lot of the allegations against him were true and the university of Indiana let him get away with it until the stories got bigger and bigger. He also said his grandfather was really upset when ESPN sabotaged him in the documentary after working for them for many years. As he got older and suffers from dementia, his family thinks the media wanted to attack him when he can’t even defend himself anymore.

    • @SnapperX3
      @SnapperX3 Год назад +11

      University of Indiana. Enough said.

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa Год назад +12

      @@SnapperX3 Hoosiers in general are odd, Kentucky is somehow more progressive a community

  • @williamrodenbeck1196
    @williamrodenbeck1196 Год назад +12

    As someone who grew up in Indiana with Purdue fans for parents, I never heard anything but good things about Bobby Knight. My dad watched the game where he threw true chair when it was on tv. He was a really really problematic person, but if you win basketball games in Indiana, Hoosiers will love you forever and ever

  • @goodfellabeats
    @goodfellabeats Год назад +6

    Indiana fans are clowns for not disowning this guy. Knight never apologized and never tried to make things right. Fans accepted him back just because. Makes them look just as bad as him.

  • @pathutchison7688
    @pathutchison7688 Год назад +9

    Have Knight coach Latrell Sprewell. We can take bets on who will get choked out and when it will happen.

    • @oldheadprisonofficer7024
      @oldheadprisonofficer7024 Год назад +2

      We tried but Sprewell said $21 million in three years wasn't enough to fed his kids

  • @kirklandmattison707
    @kirklandmattison707 Год назад +4

    He ran a great furniture store. If you bought a sofa, he would throw in a chair.

  • @jaygallardo5252
    @jaygallardo5252 Год назад +25

    Bobby Knight will go down in the end as one of the greatest embarrassments in sports history. He talked about making his teams disciplined and never had any himself. He was cruel to staff and members of the university throughout his career. And when he was called out for his appalling behavior he lashed out with even more cruelty.
    He is THE example of how winning is above all else in college sports and also the reason why this kind of behavior should never be tolerated ever again.
    He is a dinosaur. Let him and his ways be as extinct as they are.

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Год назад +7

      "Discplinary for thee, but not for me. General Knight, leader of men."
      UrinatingTree if he was a hoosier instead of yinzer.

    • @matthewhallberg8256
      @matthewhallberg8256 Год назад +2

      @@musyarofah1 Between UrinatingTree and Secret Base, you don't need anything else from Sports RUclips.

  • @philb.1502
    @philb.1502 Год назад +7

    Bobby Knight was a disgraceful bully that verbally and physically abused his players, coaches, fans, and referees. He was allowed to get away with it because he was a highly successful coach. Should have been fired 20 years before they actually did it. He's very similar to Woody Hayes!!

  • @terenceflynn4555
    @terenceflynn4555 Год назад +8

    Something y’all didn’t mention is that one of his players, Mike Woodson, is the coach now. That’s part of the reason that He came back, is because the Crean and Miller instructions had effectively forced a “Bob Knight” call back, so they went with Woodson. And he’s been a huge reason that Knight’s reintegrated with IU B-Ball.

    • @robertbui9030
      @robertbui9030 6 месяцев назад

      at the very least Mike Woodson is NOT like Bob Knight in terms of behaviour/discipline

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah by call back they meant "to be able to establish a link to the guy." For recruiting purposes, because college basketball is all about recruitment, not about skill development or tactical intelligence. You have to leverage your history to trick teenagers into thinking they'll somehow inherit the powers of success they had from people who are in their 60's now There's no way he was going to be able to act like him and it not immediately start rumors.

  • @imthesnakeking
    @imthesnakeking Год назад +8

    What a great day, Secret Base posted!

  • @mc76
    @mc76 Год назад +2

    I was a junior at IU the year that they went undefeated--the last team to do so--and he was infamous even then. He would veto concerts at Assembly Hall---even though he had absolutely no authority to do so---because he thought all the hippies would scar the arena's hardwood floor, which was covered by thick pads and tarp. President Ryan and AD Ralph Floyd let him get away with it. He rear-ended a student at a stoplight and blamed the kid for not getting off the light quickly enough. The student was given a ticket for reckless driving. Even the Bloomington Police were in his back pocket. There is no bigger fan of IU basketball than I, but I celebrated the day he was shown the door.

  • @Los150
    @Los150 Год назад +7

    Clara Morris is so damn good at this. 🐐

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 Год назад +9

    A dry aged Kobe wagyu steak worthy of a beef history. Legendary feud between Bobby Knight and IU administration. The chair is still one of my favorite moments.

  • @relix7373
    @relix7373 10 месяцев назад +7

    Lou Henson was the anti-Bob Knight. They coached together for over 20 years during the peak of the Illinois-Indiana rivalry. While Knight had more accolades, Henson is still revered today while Knight is increasingly remembered as the shitbag he was. Some guys are overly competitive or passionate, and we give them a pass like Jordan. However Knight time and time again just went too far.

  • @grammysworld5449
    @grammysworld5449 Год назад +3

    Bro was pushing kids into trashcans 🤣🤣

  • @apierre6
    @apierre6 Год назад +23

    Great video as always. It's unfortunate that the investigations only started once the basketball team struggled. It makes you wonder, if Indiana had continued to be a top 10 program and win national championships would there ever been an investigation? Could he have just kept abusing players for another decade?

    • @ahogg5960
      @ahogg5960 Год назад +6

      Yeah just ask the Chicago Blackhawks...

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 Год назад

      Just look at Penn State.

    • @cybercrasherstv
      @cybercrasherstv Год назад +1

      It's really dark that the comments are filled with "yes, look at another place where abuse was allowed to be down"
      I guess I'll add to it, albeit a much lighter example. Look at the astros. The answer is yes

  • @DeepDiveDiscipleship
    @DeepDiveDiscipleship Год назад +5

    What kind of moral bankruptcy do you have to have to justify this man's behaviour in the name of sports?

  • @kapowjam3462
    @kapowjam3462 Год назад +10

    Always enjoy a secret base video and one where we hear from Clara.
    Didn't know any of this Indiana basketball history. Really surprised that 20 years later they still were so excited to have this couch come back with all of that. More so his extremely long beef with the school rather than all the stuff he did while at the school, unfortunately.

    • @jackr3998
      @jackr3998 Год назад +2

      It’s an extremely biased video

  • @abrahammorrison6374
    @abrahammorrison6374 Год назад +6

    Former Duke Coach K's mentor was Bobby Knight at Army.

  •  Год назад +2

    Love the Clara content, keep em coming

  • @ValSempai
    @ValSempai Год назад +3

    lmao the kind of coach you hope runs into someone like Latrell Sprewell xD

  • @superdopenova6231
    @superdopenova6231 Год назад +6

    I'm a simple man, I see beef I click

  • @emantabrizi8218
    @emantabrizi8218 Год назад +6

    Some NCAA fan bases are flat-out embarrassing. I still can't get over the behavior of Penn State football fans after the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

  • @ryanstrahm2865
    @ryanstrahm2865 Год назад +4

    I was a student at IU when he came back for the 2020 game (which we lost lol) and I was definitely excited and most people I knew were too. I think it had a lot to do with people hearing about Knight from their parents, and only getting the good parts. None of us even remembered him getting fired or looked further into why.
    Nowadays though, anytime I see pictures of him at practice (apparently he was going every week for the 22-23 season) it's like this weird figure that the program doesn't want to shun, but doesn't really want to be in the spotlight. I'm sure the new approach has to do a lot with one of his players being the HC and the new president who desperately wants to seem "cool".

  • @magarthur3420
    @magarthur3420 Год назад +5

    Reminds me of how Paterno was treated at Penn State and what eventually happened because of it

  • @bangaamen501
    @bangaamen501 Год назад +8

    I don't know what I'm happy about a brief History a brief History involving bob Knight or that Clara is doing the commentary 😍😍😍👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

  • @gregorydryden7865
    @gregorydryden7865 9 месяцев назад +3

    The perfect example of an abusive Narcissist mixed with genius basketball IQ

  • @spidermonkeynuts3851
    @spidermonkeynuts3851 Год назад +2

    what a legend

  • @Jvwc1
    @Jvwc1 Год назад +48

    The fact that he is still loved today by so many is shocking. With people getting offended so easily and for him to do criminal stuff, yet still be a hero is the most incredible thing ever

    • @toilet4441
      @toilet4441 Год назад +4

      I don’t think it’s a praising of what he did off the court but what was done on the court. He had a fire and intensity to his coaching. He is absolutely beloved here in Indiana and he always will be. You can hate the artist, and feel free to, but you shouldn’t be ashamed if you enjoy a piece of their art

    • @lucasgales3008
      @lucasgales3008 Год назад +9

      @@toilet4441 I mean sure his coaching may have been a winning style but it’s a little different then art from artist his coaching style directly lead to this incidents

    • @toilet4441
      @toilet4441 Год назад +2

      @@lucasgales3008 his coaching style had nothing to do with the terrible things he did and said. If you’re talking about his aggressive coaching style, that is most certainly a product of his time in the army back in the 60’s in the middle of the Vietnam war. Sure he didn’t go to Nam but just being in basic training during that time is hell. This led him to be aggressive in his teaching of basketball. And don’t get me wrong, HE SAID AND DID REALLY BAD THINGS, but there is a reason there was backlash by players that were under him when the university booted him. I feel it is very apparent that the lack of mental toughness by the kids in the 90’s was a direct cause of the dwindling success of the IU program at that time. The fact that the players of the 80’s revere him tells me that they embraced the hardship it was to be coached by him and that’s why they were successful

    • @mjolnirandrails8785
      @mjolnirandrails8785 Год назад +2

      Including IU's current coach.

    • @toilet4441
      @toilet4441 Год назад +2

      @@mjolnirandrails8785 exactly. Woodson isn’t a cutthroat guy like Knight but he obviously retained the stuff he learned and made IU a ranked team for basically the entire season

  • @devinpettus9262
    @devinpettus9262 Год назад +4

    Nobody ever explained what "zero tolerance" means is an incredible thing to say on TV

  • @freddyrod2948
    @freddyrod2948 Год назад +6

    After seeing all the
    Indiana students protest Knight’s firing, maybe they should have dressed up the donkey in Indiana apparel instead of Purdue.

  • @coachmcguirk6297
    @coachmcguirk6297 Год назад +16

    John Stamos in that Disney show plays an angry coach who got fired for throwing a chair. The character seems to be loosely inspired by this coach.

    • @Jason-uw9ex
      @Jason-uw9ex Год назад

      Ron Swanson on Parks and Rec, too.

  • @cnote729
    @cnote729 Год назад +16

    Wow he brought a whip to his team, all Hell naw! I remember the rape comment, him wiping his butt showing the team. He was definitely a pos

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      As a paraplegic hostage about to be gang raped for the 5th time today... how do you plan to fight it??
      How will you resolve it by... NOT enjoying it??

  • @tysonsutton9621
    @tysonsutton9621 Год назад +13

    Sorry, double post:
    I also wanted to point out that Michael Lewis, the player who did the most to smear Neil Reed’s reputation and defend Bobby Knight, went on to a successful coaching career and has never publicly apologized for his verbal attacks on Reed.

    • @meharinationsportspodcast2582
      @meharinationsportspodcast2582 Год назад

      That's exactly what I was thinking of. Lewis was an ignorant scumbag who looked the other way, just like everyone else in Indiana.

    • @IRuiz805
      @IRuiz805 Год назад +1

      Sadly he never got his apology, Neil Reed died in 2012 fr a heart attack, he was my PE teacher in high school.

  • @MatthewDoel32
    @MatthewDoel32 Год назад +2

    Oh this is a Beef History I've been waiting years for.

  • @poseidonson13
    @poseidonson13 Год назад +1

    Feels like this episode was less a beef between Knight and Indiana, and more Knight vs The very concept of accountability.

  • @bradensalazar3881
    @bradensalazar3881 Год назад +3

    Bobby knight doing his best Donald Trump impression

  • @slushisue
    @slushisue Год назад +5

    My dad was one of the lawyers on the assistant coach lawsuit. Bob knight lost and they had to figure out damages. I'm not joking when I say one of the solutions was: Bob knight signs 100 basketballs and gives them to the other guy who then sells them on eBay and keeps 100% of the money. Knight declined and just payed $25,000 instead which I think is way lamer.

  • @workaccount8732
    @workaccount8732 Год назад +7

    "Allegedly shoved an LSU fan into a garbage can" is hilarious tho

  • @SirJoelsuf1
    @SirJoelsuf1 Год назад +2

    Bobby Knight is a good example of someone who I like, but don't respect. Meaning, I was always entertained by him but I KNEW he was a bad person even when I was young enough to know who he was. He always smacked me of someone who needed help. Perfect example of a lolcow who happened to be successful. Cuz trust me, Knight has everything necessary to be a lolcow.

  • @blockrocka225
    @blockrocka225 Год назад +6

    I'm not an Indiana fan, as you might be able to tell, but I understand being loyal to a coach to a fault. People around here still venerate Les Miles and Ed Orgeron despite both of those guys being provable dirtbags and despite how badly it makes them look to literally anyone outside of Baton Rouge. But I really don't get how you could stick up for a guy like Knight judging by everything I've heard from and about him. To me, he is the distillation of the very worst parts of college sports as an institution.

  • @GandalfBiceps
    @GandalfBiceps Год назад +50

    Anybody that's spent a few years in the state will tell you it's not surprising that so many people acted like this.

    • @golden-sun
      @golden-sun Год назад +2

      Along with Philadelphians and Ohions, Indianans... Indianites? Are my least favorite people

    • @bartcooper2920
      @bartcooper2920 Год назад +9

      @@golden-sun The worst midwestern person is a better person than the nicest Californian

    • @golden-sun
      @golden-sun Год назад

      @@bartcooper2920 actually good point I hate Californians too

    • @DunlapZazoombazaffodil
      @DunlapZazoombazaffodil Год назад

      @@bartcooper2920 you just mad you can’t live by the beach sad lil guy 🤡🤡

    • @keatonparker4789
      @keatonparker4789 Год назад +6

      @@bartcooper2920 wasn’t John Wayne Gacy a midwesterner?

  • @kylemurray3526
    @kylemurray3526 Год назад +13

    It’s just how we are culturally in the US. Character is nice to have, but winning/being successful is really the only thing that truly matters. And if you’re good enough at what you do, there’s very little you can do wrong. People will make all sorts of excuses all day for you and attack the messengers. He only got canned because he fell off.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад +1

      As opposed to propping up losers???
      If I sucked at the job/was wholly unqualified but was REALLY POLITE AND KIND, would you hire me??

    • @NateCooper111
      @NateCooper111 Год назад +2

      @@darrengordon-hill bit of a non sequitur. There's plenty of competent college coaches that aren't racist sexist clowns

    • @samuelstensgaard4828
      @samuelstensgaard4828 Год назад +11

      ​@@darrengordon-hill Darren, you need to calm down

  • @macbradf
    @macbradf Год назад

    Thank you so much!

  • @loucaruso3971
    @loucaruso3971 Год назад +4

    After Indiana Fired Him He Went To Coach At Texas Tech !!! HOW CAN YOU LEAVE THAT OUT ????

    • @liamkenney3933
      @liamkenney3933 Год назад +3

      Not too relevant to his beef with IU i guess, except Texas Tech also wears red lol

  • @junkscorpion7011
    @junkscorpion7011 Год назад +3

    I swear Bobby Knight use to scare the hell outta me back in the late 80s early 90s glad he was NEVER my coach😳

  • @jesterking27
    @jesterking27 Год назад +3

    I don’t think Bob Knight ever realized that basketball is a sport, you know, a kids game that’s meant to be fun. Absolute psychopath!

  • @missayawk
    @missayawk Год назад +1

    If ANYBODY was ever in need of anger management.....this was the poster child.

  • @markdwighttadina7655
    @markdwighttadina7655 Год назад +1

    Bob Knight, the man who popularized and pioneered the Motion Offense, which is used and effective today including its elements incorporated into the modern offenses through its variations (5-out, 3-2, 4-1, and Dribble Drive).

  • @SirRavixofFourhorn
    @SirRavixofFourhorn Год назад +29

    Kinda despicable that the fans still wanted him to come back after all that he did.

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa Год назад

      That's Indiana, the Mississippi of the Midwest.....I live on the Ohio side in a bordering County, I still drive to Kentucky but avoid the Hoosier state at all costs. Cincinnati is between so many dimensions of our country

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 5 месяцев назад

      Indiana is not known as a particularly intelligent state. And I couldnt help but notice on that frozen picture of the IU students holding up the sign that there were not very many attractive students in that picture either.

  • @ahpuro
    @ahpuro Год назад +10

    ahh yes, the famous Chair Jordan

  • @micahlbrown
    @micahlbrown Год назад +1

    Just wanted to say that "Good night and good game" is an inspired closing line. Use it every time.

  • @stevencooke6451
    @stevencooke6451 Год назад +2

    The worship of hate-filled vile sociopaths is vile. I always hated him and Indiana. Seeing them eliminated from March Madness was always one of my favourite pre-spring moments.