The Cass Review: Has the Trans Community Been Let Down Again?
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- The recent Cass Review Report, which proposed 32 recommendations on how gender services for children and young people should operate, has highlighted the state of inadequate care provided to young people who faces issues with their gender identity.
In conversation with Katy Jon Went, a social justice campaigner, Chamber UK explored:
- How this review will affect health professionals' ability to support local citizens
- How policymakers can ensure that the recommendations are implemented to prioritise the wellbeing of young people
- How the findings necessitate a reassessment of Labour's policy position.
To read more analysis in our online article, please click the link here: chamberuk.com/...
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If gender is a "social construct" then why is there such a push for clinics and organisations that "affirm" a gender? Shouldn't the individual just "construct" their gender and live it?
Exactly what we used to do. But there was no consumerisim in that and it was far to mentally empowering and socially evolved. Can't have the plebs actually growing in awareness.
Very true. It's very strange to permanently alter the body for a fluid construct.
They weirdly believe opposite things: "my biology does not determine my sex or gender." Also: "I simply MUST take these puberty blockers and/or hormones and/or have this surgery so my physical body can align with the sex/gender I feel inside." @@megaloschemos9113 The entire trans agenda is like a rickety house of cards.
In an ideal world, yes. But in the real world, people get bullied for not looking like the gender they identify as. When a trans woman enters a public bathroom, there is a high risk that they will be assaulted or even murdered, especially if it’s physically evident that they are trans. Not only that, but a transwoman that had to undergo male puberty will never be able to compete in women sports fairly because their muscle mass has built up too much. If society didn’t care about men looking like men and women looking like women, then appearance wouldn’t be an issue and medical treatment could be avoided. People that transition early are able to develop the physical features of the gender they identify as.
I think they mean the ROGD kids. It used to be boys and men who identified as trans, but more recently it shot up like 4,000 % in young girls, and that’s the social contagion piece. The pandemic caused them all to go online and they self diagnosed before even seeing a doctor. There is an instance where someone tested this theory and sent in a child, and within 7 minutes, she had a script for testosterone. US doesn’t have a national healthcare program so it’s about money and big pharmaceutical. There are billionaires behind this movement. It’s a classist movement. In boys and men, as Katy said, it’s another conversation. Some are AGP, just a gay kid that hasn’t discovered that yet, or some sort of mental health issue such as anxiety/depression/SA/autism and then went misdiagnosed because psychology and medicine aren’t playing by the rules. Do no harm. In America, we watched it all unfold on a television show, the horrors of GAC. It’s Brave New World and a move towards desensitization through the pernicious obfuscation of language, and eventually, transhumanism.
I don’t know what it’s like to b a transwoman. But I do know what it’s like to be a natal female and how a colposcopy feels, what it’s like to see a 26 yo female die of ovarian cancer, what it feels like to have an ectopic pregnancy burst, what birth control side effects feel like, what a Pap smear is like, what an abortion is like (horrible), what it’s like to go through menopause and post menopausal osteoporosis, but yeah, hormonal drugs mimic PMS and I’m supposed to call a male a woman and if I don’t I’m a hater😆?!?!
Excellent post.
Not forgetting peri- menopause which is an ordeal before an ordeal; and in my case, losing my breasts through cancer.
You do realize someone could do that same to you. They could start calling you a man against your will, and with enough time that would definitely upset you. It’s about respecting others until disrespect is shown to you.
@@borkingborker5567Well, but one is a true statement and the other is false. The truth is not an epithet.
None of these things make you a woman - you just think you are.
Ok just stop. You all know this is adolescent abuse. You've been outed. Time to bring these sadistic elites to justice.
The cult will go into attack mode...again. they are collapsing. The truth always wins...always.
Biology and facts don't care about your feelings.
Leave children alone.
I'm a child and I disagree with you.
@@johnholmesinchesahead342 Your statement demonstates that you are a child!
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Your parents are a disgrace and are weak for even allowing you to be this confused .
@@johnholmesinchesahead342 Nobody cares, what a kid brainwashed by Marxist cult ideology projects onto the world.
@@donellacampbell307doesn't change the fact that they have a right to an opinion.
Clinicians should not be in a state of confusion. The findings of the Cass report are very clear. It may take time to implement them in full but the main priority right now is to put a stop to abuse. There is nothing unclear about that. Stop the abuse of children now.
8:27 Gotta say, a bit frustrating hearing your final description of things. Especially as many of us who have always tried to have empathy and be moderate have faced a decade of shut down and hostility.
So, question: will things change? Or will one side of the spectrum march on, ignoring these findings and the need for change?
Appreciate your optimism, but don't share it. I'm afraid for many young people and families who will be facing very difficult futures. Who will be supporting them when they are 30, 45, 60? You state that these children shouldn't be pawns in a culture war but what happens to them when they are no longer the darlings of of a particular ideology?
I have been thinking about that too. It is all about now and today.
But tomorrow, or in a few decades. How will those kids 'feel'', who will be there to look after them.
No it has to stop leave children alone
We have a crumbling economy and wars being fueled. What Trans people want should be the least of our concerns.
Absolutely.
1:25 You're right. The kids aren't going to go away. However, now they might actually get some significant mental health care. The system will need to improve, provide more resources, and provide psychothearpy.
Which will only further entrench these ideologies as psychotherapists and counsellors have been "educated" in ideologically captured institutions.
@@Gingerblaze that's true, they should get real help from normal humans not the woke fas..cists
Not all of them!
@@Gingerblaze No, those counsellors will all be in jail, leaving properly trained therapists to help.
How about the Normal Community.We get let down all the time.
Very balanced. However, we cannot ignore the fact that the toxicity comes from ONE side. TRA'S have threatened, harrassed, stalked, doxxed and stopped women (mostly) from talking about this. No GC feminist has done any of this, we've wanted to talk about it, for years but have been prevented and lost their livelihoods.
They are still foaming, mad Marxists, ready for violence.
how did a di sor der become an identity..... that's what should be explained... do people with other body dysmorphia get to have an identity? how about bipolar? eating disorders? meaning whatever disorder a person has that's their core identity.... pretty sad
The Cass review revealed that gender identity is a social construct. Is in your head and needs a different solution. The reason why there is a high demand is social influence.
Bill Maher points out that if trans is purely a biological reality and not influenced by social contagion, then we would not be seeing regional differences in the prevalence of trans people. But we are! You may go to a school in Los Angeles, and 1/4 of the kids in a class will identify as trans. Go to a school in Ohio, and maybe 0 or 1 out of a class will identify as trans. And don't get me started on these parents with 2 or more trans kids. The odds are astronomical.
The cass review was disappointing. It still talked about "gender identity" as if we all have one (zero evidence for its existence,) and used the language of the cult with terms like "Assigned Female/Male At Birth" to describe biological girls and boys. And she's a consultant paediatrician!
Love how you turned their 'social construct' words against them so simply. Brilliant.
This is what happens when u pander to the delusion of children.
Although many of these children have been subjected to misleading information and actually believe they can change sex
It isn't a delusion coming fron children it is one implanted by the behavior and attitudes of ignorant adults.
@@Gingerblaze I'd say psy....chos because they mut...ilate young adults for profits... they 'socially transition' them so when they turn 18 they can bu...tcher them.... all is done before their brains fully develop to realize what's done to them
This has come from adults. This started with fetishistic men and self-hating gays, and is ending with confused children.
Pandas live in China - not children - unless society has changed again.
I think we can agree that patience and compassion are useful to bring to a discussion or to a debate. In Chapter Two of On Liberty, John Stuart Mills argues strongly against the silencing of expressing opinions: "He who knows only his side of the case, knows little of that." Meaning, it is essential to understand why others disagree with you, otherwise you risk believing that you are infallible. I think we disagree. Probably 100%. But I listened to the interview.
What is the “moderate” position on continued child abuse?
Stunting kids’ growth and development, allowing them to amputate healthy body parts, letting them sacrifice future sexual function before they’ve ever experienced an orgasm?
This seems sane and sensible to all of you?
The excuse used to be that it prevents suicide. The Cass Report found no evidence of that.
Well misgendering when its pretty clear what would gelp them is not, is child abuse and the fear, all that,litetallyis child abuse. Terfs want patents to abuse their children to feel right.
Also same people who " think of the children" do never actiäually listen or care what children. Its all about outrage.
Really wasnt there the bit that cases where the environment accomodated , people were in way better mental health.
Tgazs where it prevents suicides, if you can read, thats the evidence. Its prettymuch implies that less damaging mental heath, that fewer suicide is implied.
@@marocat4749Sorry, between the typos, the jargon and the gobbledegook, I can’t even understand what you’re saying. Care to try again in comprehensible standard English?
@@marocat4749The Cass Review found no evidence to support that claim.
Maybe it's the hormone cocktail? Can't make sense of any of it, LOL. @@christinadonnelly9876
Just admit that it was wrong to mess with kids health and make sure it will never happen again.
...and go to jail.
6:00 Thank you for reconising the need for debate. Your life choices aren't up for debate, but our childrens needs are.
The group whose choices ARE up for debate are those made by the medical industrial complex who have chosen to shirk off the principle of evidence based medicine and "do no harm".
We told you to leave the kids alone. The TQplus cult wouldn't listen
Exactly
Trans community? What is that?
Do all 'trans' people think and believe the same things? No variations at all in opinions?
If not, then how are these various ideas and expressions melded into a single view?
Do they have meetings where everyone is included, free to contribute, every person given the same prominence?
Do they have fora, elections and other mechanisms to share opinions etc?
Or do a loud, intolerant minority drown out any ideas they do not like and present themselves as the voices of people they do not represent?
Or is there no trans community at all. An invention of ideologically driven people to engrandize themselves?
Definitely the later. Same for all the other supposed "communities" we are told the "beliefs" of. "Disability", "deaf", "feminist", "autistic" "gender realists", "POC" "Black" "LGB" etc
A succinct analysis of this ideological cult.
Well put and needed to be said. I’m gay. When I was a student or a young women I was, obviously, in and out of clubs and pubs. Once a year I went to a local Pride event, maybe even travelled to another one . We were NOT a community!
It didn’t need a month. I certainly didn’t want the encouragement of bloody Sainsbury’s. Even when we clearly sought equal pension rights , ability to get a joint mortgage and the ability to bring a same sex partner to a works do, we might be described as a pressure group but we still were not a community.
BTW, we achieved parity before the 20th century ended. My concern is that this could be undone by a generation of entitled , warped, crazies determined to destroy our moderate, affable consensus and ruining young lives into the bargain.
This report is fact based. Get your facts.
"Fact based" yet still uses the language of the gender cult like "AFAB" instead of biological girl (the only type,) and "gender identity" whilst zero evidence exists of such a thing.
They are still pandering to the ideologues who desperately need to make ppl believe transkids exist in order to make sense of their ideology.
A child is not able to make an informed choice about matters that will radically affect the rest of their lives. They are children. Anyone who beçomes aware of children being harmed and does not get a bit 'toxic' about it is a wrongn in my opinion.
I would argue that the Affirmative approach has let down trans people. If your process has had severely damaging results for a significant minority of your patients. Then your response should be to study those cases, and to update your criteria for diagnosis and prescription. Not to dismiss, diminish, and demonise reasonable critiques.
On top of the suffering caused by this wilful blindness. There will now be further suffering caused to trans people by a jarring change to the system, which could've been avoided by engaging reasonably with the evidence and course-correcting iteratively.
No women have been let down again. Misogyny is real. Patriarchy is still patriarchy even in a dress
How do you think the patriarchy looks at the "man in a dress with boobs" .Are you serious?
Good description of the trans movement (at leat the MtoF part) Misogyny in a dress
I love how JK Rowling put it: "The emperor is naked. He might be wearing lipstick, but his balls are swinging in plain sight."
Actually, the whole whining about the pAtRiArChY is what led us to this point as a society. This whole delusion is just the next level of the same Marxist brain rot that came up with terms like "tHe pAtRiArChY".
Sorry but, what is the 'trans community'?
Not even 1% of the population.
So, OK, let us respect them, but pleeeease don't'give them more rights than to other people !
I’m a biological man but I have absolutely no idea what it feels like to be a man. I only know what it feels like to be me. The idea that you can somehow separate your subjective personal experience from biological reality is nonsense.
there is no such thing as a biological man.
@@aryanbilakhia9842 What about a biological woman?
@@barryledgister4496 no such thing. Do you want to know why?
Is Katie a biological male? I’m also in a state of confusion.
Yes.
Just trust your eyes.
Tits and hair are temporary, facial bone structure is forever.
I'm 57 and have been taking puberty blockers for nigh on 40 years. I still grew up - so do they work?
So you went through puberty first.
Katy seems to be very nice and intelligent person, I think she will definitely help many trans women. What's also very important is that her voice may save lots of kids.
Wow, what a fantastically sensible discussion!!
It sounds like you are generally agreeing with the Cass Report and are calling for reason and common sense, and not bullying ideology and stonewalling.
It is unclear to me why many commenters here are disagreeing with you.
Ban bottom surgery.
What losers. Leave kids alone.
I don’t always agree with Katy, but I always appreciate that she tries to take a critical and empathetic view of all sides.
Katy? She?
HE.
00:55 Who wants to bet otherwise that that ogre on the right is a MAN ?
Why is someone's identity crisis interfering with our society? Keep it to themselves, enough of this bull shit.
SHAMEFUL.
I can't believe the penny hasn't yet dropped with you people.
Dude on the left is much much better at playing a girl 😅😅😅!!
No.
Which community the ones who believe in clap trap or the sane ones? Delia Morris
Bloke on the right has nice hair
Community lol. No.
Couldn't agree more. we need more clear minds.
Clear minds are only possible with clear language. Start there.
Just because people do wildtakes,and terfs cant read, doeant mean it is.
Litrerally every near second sentence is that the culture war doesnot help at all .
Which by itself should tell that,terfs cant read,but the author isnt bloody a terf, and wants more research and let it to bloody doctors and patience without the panic.
The author hates the trans panic,i would guess. She isnt a bloody terf.
Terfs are women who defend our rights to exist as a female sex category. Delia Morris
'Terf' being another word for 'witch' in this case. It's a misogynistic slur, nothing more.
@@funkyfranx A TERF is any rational person who can see straight through the tr@ns bullsh!t and cares about children.
The audacity to talk about others reading ability when you write the way you do is astounding!
Ive seen you say that in several comments now. Yet you are barely stringing a coherent sentence together and when you do it's misspelt, lacking punctuation, missing words, has spaces where they're not needed and none where they are and the sentence structure is awful too.
If you had just put your point across without name calling and insulting others intelligence we could be here talking about the issues instead of your writing skills.
Nice cat though. I like cats.