So I guess Matt's problem is the garage itself, probably too much moisture and cold which probably created some kind of barrier in the surface and prevented the primer to stick to it
Good too see the test. I am puzzled at what happened to your friends primer coat. I live in the UK and use Zero primer nearly all the time as I find it to be excellent stuff. One thing I noticed in your test the primer looks really weak and does not contain nowhere near the filler pigment mine has and nothing like any of the Zero primer I have ever used. I think the bottle you have is definitely a bad batch.
I'm currently working on a project that I'm using zero on. the shit primer is crap, but the top coat is amazing. I think I'll just pay up for tamiya rattle can primer in future.
Although we may never know for sure why it peeled on him the way it did, I have "seen" and experienced the "dusting" effect when using primers made for automotive use and I have seen, and experienced" the "peeling" first hand due to the temperature/Humidity etc etc. I am of the opinion ( an we all know those are a dime a dozen ) that it had to do with "where" he was painting and the atmosphere. Just my 2 cents.
+Red Dragon ModelWerks i can't disagree. atmospheric conditions are the only thing of any real difference. and there's just something about lacquers and the dust effect. weird.
then its a bad batch cause we are alot of people using it and its flawless. The surface i get is similar to tamiya fine surface primer and thats good. that spatter u are getting is something ive never seen before, on any primer
agreed. a primer should never be a problem. and many people have had problems with zero. it's just lechler automotive paint thinned with automotive thinner. not appropriate for our use but people get away with it.
Save your money. A few months ago I ran out of my Stynlrez (not a bad primer) and thinned some craft paint with floor wax . I was very much surprised. It adhered very well and covered as well, as well as any of the Brand name model acrylic primers over the year. Floor wax is urethane type of product that's designed for adhesion and durability (to be walked on obviously). Floor wax in model painting is very versatile, in that it can be used as a thinner, primer when mixed with paint. and a clear coat.
5.55 " if you want the exact colour blue that's on the Mclaren Red Bull formula 1 car" .......wtf is a McLaren red Bull formula 1 car? Mclaren's are orange (or traditionally Marlboro sponsored in 70s-2000s)...and Red Bull are NOT Mclarens and are currently a shade of purple/yellow and red....so wtf are you talking about?
it really doesn't help when you ad-lib about shit you obviously know very little about.....not outraged, just laughing at your attempts to sound like you know your shit when you obviously haven't a clue...LOL
Really nice comparison/test. Always good to use a scientific approach to settle a debate. Well done my friend.
can microfiller be used on small models to fill thin gaps ?
I wondering if the labeling if they are lacquer or not has to do with shipping and other regulations.
Great primer test but do you think it was a bad batch of primer Thanks for sharing Jamie
So I guess Matt's problem is the garage itself, probably too much moisture and cold which probably created some kind of barrier in the surface and prevented the primer to stick to it
interesting kept me company while casting
thanks for the test Will.
Good too see the test. I am puzzled at what happened to your friends primer coat. I live in the UK and use Zero primer nearly all the time as I find it to be excellent stuff. One thing I noticed in your test the primer looks really weak and does not contain nowhere near the filler pigment mine has and nothing like any of the Zero primer I have ever used. I think the bottle you have is definitely a bad batch.
+Christopher Taylor certainly possible. these things are hard to pin down!
alclade micro filler primer ...where can i purchase this
another one that springs to mind was the black primer debate of 2016.. ;)
haha you have red paint on your hand as your grab the exacto! that's awesome haha
I'm currently working on a project that I'm using zero on. the shit primer is crap, but the top coat is amazing. I think I'll just pay up for tamiya rattle can primer in future.
Although we may never know for sure why it peeled on him the way it did, I have "seen" and experienced the "dusting" effect when using primers made for automotive use and I have seen, and experienced" the "peeling" first hand due to the temperature/Humidity etc etc.
I am of the opinion ( an we all know those are a dime a dozen ) that it had to do with "where" he was painting and the atmosphere. Just my 2 cents.
+Red Dragon ModelWerks i can't disagree. atmospheric conditions are the only thing of any real difference. and there's just something about lacquers and the dust effect. weird.
never had that issue with my zero primer. seems like a air/paint/pressure ratio problem.
lol. no.
then its a bad batch cause we are alot of people using it and its flawless. The surface i get is similar to tamiya fine surface primer and thats good. that spatter u are getting is something ive never seen before, on any primer
agreed. a primer should never be a problem. and many people have had problems with zero. it's just lechler automotive paint thinned with automotive thinner. not appropriate for our use but people get away with it.
There's a whole lotta shaking goin on.
Hey dude, did you get permission from The Oatmeal to use their image in your intros?
Oh, and we call it lacquer thinner here in the USA too.
Save your money. A few months ago I ran out of my Stynlrez (not a bad primer) and thinned some craft paint with floor wax . I was very much surprised. It adhered very well and covered as well, as well as any of the Brand name model acrylic primers over the year. Floor wax is urethane type of product that's designed for adhesion and durability (to be walked on obviously). Floor wax in model painting is very versatile, in that it can be used as a thinner, primer when mixed with paint. and a clear coat.
that's all great but it's not a wax.
My primer is harder than your primer! 🤘
McLaren red bull? PMSL
A McLaren Red Bull F1 car? WTF? You have no clue do you?
what the fuck are you even talking about?
5.55 " if you want the exact colour blue that's on the Mclaren Red Bull formula 1 car" .......wtf is a McLaren red Bull formula 1 car? Mclaren's are orange (or traditionally Marlboro sponsored in 70s-2000s)...and Red Bull are NOT Mclarens and are currently a shade of purple/yellow and red....so wtf are you talking about?
wow. take stuff literally much? have difficulty interpreting context much? get outraged on the interwebs a lot? lol
it really doesn't help when you ad-lib about shit you obviously know very little about.....not outraged, just laughing at your attempts to sound like you know your shit when you obviously haven't a clue...LOL
McLarens trad orange. Early 70s white/orange/black-Yardley...late 70s-90s Marlboro red/white...2000s silver/red Vodafone...current Orange/black-no headline sponsor....HTH LOL